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    What ever happened to log crossings?

    Are they just an East Coast thing? I've lived here for 3 years now and I think I've ridden over a total of 3 logs, and those where made easier by a bunch of other logs stacked up to them to form a pyramid. I don't get it. Am I on the wrong trails? Have trails become so well groomed that obstacles are all put there on purpose? Are we seeing the watering down of our sport? Am I just on a rant? Why is the sky blue? Why does my boss keep walking by when I'm trying to type this important post? Alt+tab.
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    You are just on a rant.

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    East coast = big hardwood trees
    Rocky Mountains = smallish pine trees that are easy to cut with a folding saw

    I saw about a hundred fallen trees on my ride last night (about 15 of which were across the trail). I moved the ones that I could off the trail, but since it's a trail through a rich subdivision, I figure it's best to let their maintenance folk deal with the deadfall.

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    Ride in the high mountains in the fall after a big storm and you won't be wishing any longer.

    I rode the doctor park area last fall and there were probably 10 different areas within about that many miles where massive trees were all blown down and across the trail.

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    You'll never find logs here the same way you find logs on the east coast. I, too, have been jonesing for some decent logs, even making some crossings in the little park by the house. It's just not the same as getting 20" oak. It's the same with stream crossings on handbuilt log bridges. There isn't a need here.

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    Yeah, you're just in the wrong part of the world, riding-wise, to have tons of log overs and log rides. I moved out east three years ago - no shortage here!
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    Try Stevens Gulch early this year. I'll bet you'll change your tune.

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    Yup, moved here 18 months ago from the mid-atlantic and my log riding skills are quickly deteriorating. Just different trees, different conditions. One of my regular riding spots back east had some big logs...I never took any pics but here's one Google found for me, and this is pretty nicely ramped, some of them are barely ramped at all.


    On the other hand, there's way more loose rocky stuff here than you find back east. Not to mention the long climbs and altitude.

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    Log crossings

    I'm from the East as well. I just said the other day how I miss the logs. I think one of the reasons is that most of the trails here are multi use. They are used for hiking, horse back riding, mountain biking, running, etc. Someone is bound to clear the log. Try riding Sourdough. Some of the logs are made easier with others, but they are still fun. If you ride from the Sourdough parking lot to Brainard Lake, I think there are 5 of them. At least 4. I don't remember exactly. You can't ride it now though. It starts at 9,200 feet and goes up to over 10,300 feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twitchy
    I'm from the East as well. I just said the other day how I miss the logs. I think one of the reasons is that most of the trails here are multi use. They are used for hiking, horse back riding, mountain biking, running, etc. Someone is bound to clear the log.
    I don't think so because where I used to ride in CT was multi use, and they had more logs than you could imagine. Used to see horses too. I think it just has to do with the fact that there are actually some trees in the east.

    The other thing I miss is the granite boulders with ramps made from old stone walls. Sure, you can go out to Moab and ride yourself sick on slickrock, but there is something to all the little boulder rides scattered in the forests in the east.

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    Wow, with all these people having tons of log riding skillz, you'd think more people would be good at doing them.






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    In all serious-ness, you have to go out to the back woods to discover those simple delights. Front Range trails just ain't gonna have them for reasons already posted.

    Oh and logs piled up in a pyramid makes a great jump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka
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    The other thing I miss is the granite boulders with ramps made from old stone walls. Sure, you can go out to Moab and ride yourself sick on slickrock, but there is something to all the little boulder rides scattered in the forests in the east.
    Hmmm... Buff Crik Black Diamond Trail?

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    maybe i should take a trip back east for a week. i hear the west virginia fat tire festival calling my name. roots, rocks, logs, mud, trees with leaves. mmmmm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suprcivic
    maybe i should take a trip back east for a week. i hear the west virginia fat tire festival calling my name. roots, rocks, logs, mud, trees with leaves. mmmmm.

    I spent last summer in PA. I miss Blue Marsh 30miles and no sunscreen.

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    I miss the log hopping as well. Early spring usually brings a few on the CT.

    Otherwise here is one of many of yours truly hopping logs on the east coast

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/goatshell/2289811841/" title="Hopping logs on Butter by Goat in a Turtle Shell, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3031/2289811841_c9428cfd74_b.jpg" width="820" height="614" alt="Hopping logs on Butter" /></a>

    For the fella above who thinks the east coast has no elevation gain..TheGoat Ride 2006 had over 10,000 ft of accumilated climbing in 45 miles. Lots of hike a bike and some wicked singletrack descents.

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    nothing better than coming up on a 2 foot tall log with a bunch of chainring marks on it. front wheel up, chainring on to pedal stand, back wheel up and over, pray.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    Hmmm... Buff Crik Black Diamond Trail?
    Nah, it's just not the same. On the east coast you get these boulders that are just big enough to play on scattered in the woods. People go out there and create rides on them, stack up rocks to make ramps or build really tenuous ladder bridges (the one thing I could do without). It becomes this playground.

    Oh, the last thing I miss is the smell of the dirt. You don't get that in the west.

    Of course, you don't get 95 degrees and 90% humidity or four weeks of solid rain, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suprcivic
    nothing better than coming up on a 2 foot tall log with a bunch of chainring marks on it. front wheel up, chainring on to pedal stand, back wheel up and over, pray.
    Yeah, but those big chain rings are expensive.

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    Looks like bacon boy is trying to be kinder and gentler these days?
    I'll take up the slack for him.

    Why don't you guys all just move back east if it's so great?

    It'll create that much less traffic for the rest of us.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka
    ......Of course, you don't get 95 degrees and 90% humidity or four weeks of solid rain, either.
    I'll never miss that!
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    there's some fun ones on sourdough.

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    It's the type of vegitation.

    Upper midwest there were lots of logs, N and S Carolina, lots of logs. Houston area, lots of logs. I can't recall any in AZ, NM or CO.
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    Riding is great here. You have to know where to go.

    When I first moved here I thought it was better where I came from. Now I feel blessed that I am able to ride all the different types of terrain in different parts of the country. It's all good. You just have to know where to go to find what you like.
    Go talk to Dave at Redstone in Lyons. He is like a human MTB map. He can lead you in the right direction. For me riding around Sourdough and Camp Dick and that whole area is wonderful. I like riding in the Forest. You find all kinds of good stuff to ride over around and through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suprcivic
    nothing better than coming up on a 2 foot tall log with a bunch of chainring marks on it. front wheel up, chainring on to pedal stand, back wheel up and over, pray.
    You pansies. Go over it trials style (with a rear wheel hop), or just bunny hop the whole thing!

    ...now, to do as I preach with out a trip to the ER
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad andy!
    Looks like bacon boy is trying to be kinder and gentler these days?
    I'll take up the slack for him.

    Why don't you guys all just move back east if it's so great?
    You bahstid. I was building up to it.

    Fvckin' Easterners...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad andy!
    Looks like bacon boy is trying to be kinder and gentler these days?
    I'll take up the slack for him.

    Why don't you guys all just move back east if it's so great?

    It'll create that much less traffic for the rest of us.


    And for those with broken sarcasm meters:

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    and all that good stuff

    I'm not from CT, only lived there for 8, long years. C'mon, you can't take a trip to Moab and then miss the trails?

    I'm thinking of a compromise between CO and east coast riding. Maybe Missouri?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka
    I'm not from CT, only lived there for 8, long years. C'mon, you can't take a trip to Moab and then miss the trails?

    I'm thinking of a compromise between CO and east coast riding. Maybe Missouri?
    You mean 'Misery'?

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    I totally hear you guys. I started riding in Maryland. I feel very blessed and excited to be living here in Colorado. So much great riding...

    But I do miss the trails on the East Coast. Me and the Misses are hoping to move back late next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    Hmmm... Buff Crik Black Diamond Trail?
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    easterners are almost as bad as texans which are almost as bad as californians. come on doooooods

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    Poseurs!
    Everyone knows east coast trails are flat & buff....sorta like Cherry Creek bike path!

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    Yep, that looks familiar, but you need to submerge those trails in streams and have some rickety old 2X4s for bridges. And you can't forget about all the spider webs that get in your face as you ride through the foliage.

    Maybe some ticks, too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lubes17319
    ........hardtails cannot be AM bikes, sorry
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    Everyone knows east coast trails are flat & buff....sorta like Cherry Creek bike path!


    hey lubes, looks to me that first biker photo is on a rigid...is that all mountain?
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    I'd say that if the rider can ride the whole mountain, then it's "all mountain." The rest is "all marketing."
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    Of course that's ridged SS in that pic.
    That section of rocks is only about 3 miles long, is that even enough time for a shock to rebound?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ignazjr
    I'd say that if the rider can ride the whole mountain, then it's "all mountain." The rest is "all marketing."
    Worth quoting...
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    the way i've heard it is that if you can ride the east you can ride anywhere...
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    Quote Originally Posted by reynoldseight5three
    the way i've heard it is that if you can ride the east you can ride anywhere...
    The same goes for skiing... if you can ski the East you can ski anywhere.

    Trouble is... who in their right mind wants to ski the East?


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    i don't know if the skiing moniker fits...i've seen some good skiers that can't handle powder....but hey i'm a tele skier so the more powder the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suprcivic
    Are they just an East Coast thing? I've lived here for 3 years now and I think I've ridden over a total of 3 logs, and those where made easier by a bunch of other logs stacked up to them to form a pyramid. I don't get it. Am I on the wrong trails? Have trails become so well groomed that obstacles are all put there on purpose? Are we seeing the watering down of our sport? Am I just on a rant? Why is the sky blue? Why does my boss keep walking by when I'm trying to type this important post? Alt+tab.
    Yup. East coast thing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    The same goes for skiing... if you can ski the East you can ski anywhere.

    Trouble is... who in their right mind wants to ski the East?

    Yup!
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    Quote Originally Posted by reynoldseight5three
    i don't know if the skiing moniker fits...i've seen some good skiers that can't handle powder....
    If someone can't handle powder they're not a good skier.

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    Here you dont even have to go back east!

    cross this:
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    If someone can't handle powder they're not a good skier.
    we never see it here in the east..they groom it down so it doesn't melt when the rainstorm comes two days later...lol

    if you can't ski on ice you're not a good skier..
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBR me!
    cross this:
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    Near the top of shinglemill i want to see it!
    I thought you got a shot of me launching/clearing it!



    Cereally, ThatGuy might give it a go........
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    hey look another rigid bike...
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    I learned to mountain bike in Michigan (Potawatomi Trail). 18 miles of one-way sweetness outside of Ann Arbor.

    Forget logs and rocks... I really miss the deer flies, mosquitoes, poison ivy overgrowing the trail. Jeebus, I rode a lot faster when stopping resulted in being swarmed by insects intent on eating your flesh down to the bone. All this sunny weather and no riding in the mud business in Colorado has turned me into a pansy. The only real threat on the trail in Colorado are cougars, and that's mostly because the sight of one in a sports bra takes my eyes off the trail and off my line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fusker
    I learned to mountain bike in Michigan (Potawatomi Trail). 18 miles of one-way sweetness outside of Ann Arbor.

    Forget logs and rocks... I really miss the deer flies, mosquitoes, poison ivy overgrowing the trail. Jeebus, I rode a lot faster when stopping resulted in being swarmed by insects intent on eating your flesh down to the bone. All this sunny weather and no riding in the mud business in Colorado has turned me into a pansy. The only real threat on the trail in Colorado are cougars, and that's mostly because the sight of one in a sports bra takes my eyes off the trail and off my line.
    !!!! after reading cougars....i thought this might be going where i was thinking!! hahah

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    Your right....

    Quote Originally Posted by lubes17319
    I thought you got a shot of me launching/clearing it!



    Cereally, ThatGuy might give it a go........

    I checked my camera i did:
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    Quote Originally Posted by reynoldseight5three
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    if you can't ski on ice you're not a good skier..
    Yeah - but there's is nobody in their RIGHT mind who *wants* to ski ice...

    Powder, OTOH...

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