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    "Paul Seward lives in the 4100 block of Eldorado Springs Drive, just north of the Doudy Draw trailhead. He said it's not uncommon for up to 60 cars to line the road by his home on any given weekend. "

    More trails (options) sounds like a good solution.

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    "Councilwoman Lisa Morzel has proposed the possibility of a wider tag system, potentially for bikes or even hikers."

    Anyone want to bet on hikers ever requiring tags? Total posturing of the council to say "bikers and hikers" and really just be targeting bikers.

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    I'm glad I don't live in the people's republic of boulder. I stay away if I am on two wheels.


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    So much fun, so little time.

    Hmmm....

    1942: "Jews are evil. We must tag and eliminate them.", Hitler
    2011: "Mountain bikers are evil. We must tag and eliminate them.", Corzel

    Ok, I took a little liberty with the quotes, but I think the message is clear. Use that and turn it against her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers View Post
    So much fun, so little time.

    Hmmm....

    1942: "Jews are evil. We must tag and eliminate them.", Hitler
    2011: "Mountain bikers are evil. We must tag and eliminate them.", Corzel

    Ok, I took a little liberty with the quotes, but I think the message is clear. Use that and turn it against her.
    Your rhetoric goes to ELEVEN...


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    Boulder is a joke......

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSD303 View Post
    Your rhetoric goes to ELEVEN...

    Just have some fun for once.

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    I think they should just tag schnauzers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xcguy View Post
    I think they should just tag schnauzers.
    They already do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers View Post
    Just have some fun for once.
    Unless the subject is genocide or a list of the "best" movie villians, any reference to the Nazis pretty much wipes away any credibility an argument might possible have. It also really undermines the credibilty and perspective of the person who made such a comparison.

    See also Godwin's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pabs View Post
    Unless the subject is genocide or a list of the "best" movie villians, any reference to the Nazis pretty much wipes away any credibility an argument might possible have. It also really undermines the credibilty and perspective of the person who made such a comparison.
    Why is that and who's reasoning is it? I think it is a very good comparison. Are you saying that Hitler did not make a point of singling out a particular group of individuals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers View Post
    Why is that and who's reasoning is it? I think it is a very good comparison. Are you saying that Hitler did not make a point of singling out a particular group of individuals?
    If you honestly need someone to point out the differences between Hitler's singling out an ethono-religious group of people for genocide is different that land managers limiting access for certain types of recreation on public lands ... well, then, my friend, you may well have lost all perspective and I likely won't take anything you say serious ever again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pabs View Post
    If you honestly need someone to point out the differences between Hitler's singling out an ethono-religious group of people for genocide is different that land managers limiting access for certain types of recreation on public lands ... well, then, my friend, you may well have lost all perspective and I likely won't take anything you say serious ever again.
    schnauzers is, after all, schnauzers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xcguy View Post
    schnauzers is, after all, schnauzers.
    So it seems. Your comment is the meanest thing to ever happen since the Taliban killed all those people!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pabs View Post
    If you honestly need someone to point out the differences between Hitler's singling out an ethono-religious group of people for genocide is different that land managers limiting access for certain types of recreation on public lands ... well, then, my friend, you may well have lost all perspective and I likely won't take anything you say serious ever again.
    It's an InTeRWeBz forum. Do you really take anything seriously?

    As I said, I took liberty with the quotes. It's an article in the Daily rag, who make it a point to instigate the user groups on a weekly basis. I don't take it seriously.


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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers View Post
    It's an InTeRWeBz forum. Do you really take anything seriously?

    As I said, I took liberty with the quotes. It's an article in the Daily rag, who make it a point to instigate the user groups on a weekly basis. I don't take it seriously.

    It's so not serious that you made the Hitler comparison. Awesome. I guess trail access isn't serious. You know who else took things seriously? Joe Stalin. That must mean I'm just like Stalin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pabs View Post
    It's so not serious that you made the Hitler comparison. Awesome. You know who else took things seriously? Joe Stalin. That must mean I'm just like Stalin.
    Oh, the irony.

    Yesterday, in 1943. This meeting was held in Tehran. Pretty damn ironic, huh?
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    "The city's Open Space Board of Trustees is expected to take up issues such as the green tag program for off-leash dog access sometime early next year. But the board's discussion recently extended to include the possibility of increased fines for illegal parking at trailheads, or impounding mountain bikes for illegal riding. "

    One has to wonder why off leash dogs and "illegal" hiking on social trails are considered "passive" recreation?

    Also, under what authority can a park ranger impound someones bike?

    Boulder Co Open Space Tax Code (1 of 6 such taxes)
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    WHEREAS, there is a critical need for the preservation of open space lands in Boulder County,preserved open space being a fundamental shared value of the citizens of Boulder County, which open space lands can be used for purposes including but not limited to buffers to preserve community identity, natural areas, wildlife habitat and wetlands, allow continuation of existing visual corridors and offer passive recreational use through the development of a County-wide trail system, and therefore there is a critical need for County-wide sales and use taxes to finance the acquisition, limited development of said lands;

    Notice the use of the word preservation vs conservation, and insertion of the word passive when referring to recreation. Those 2 things make all the difference in the world when talking about what is and is not acceptable on BCOS property.

    Also, notice is says county-wide trail system. It does not say a county-wide, hiker-only trail system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers View Post
    Oh, the irony.

    Yesterday, in 1943. This meeting was held in Tehran. Pretty damn ironic, huh?
    This thread is just like FDR ... lame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers View Post
    It's an InTeRWeBz forum. Do you really take anything seriously?
    curious: Do you have any lessons learned from being stalked on the internet? (sorry to derail the thread)
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    You see, when you are schnauzers, you can call people Hitler on the InterWebz and it's all in good fun - you can't take what people say on the intertubes seriously. But if someone says your full name on the Internet, then you need to arm yourself and prepare for the coming invasion of your home and violation of your family. It's simple...

    That councilwoman that schnauzers called out on the Internet was just spotted buying firearms to protect her family from "some guy on the internet who mentioned her BY NAME and compared her to Hitler." See how this works?

    Why is this so hard for you people to understand?!? lol

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    be careful, he's friends with chickens**t.

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    "City open space rangers, through a joint operating agreement with Boulder County, have jurisdiction to issue tickets for illegal parking on county property. But Joe Reale, Boulder's ranger supervisor, said the city simply doesn't have the resources to conduct enforcement on every trail in the 48,000-acre open space system. "

    Have they considered another parking lot, I mean there's only 48000 acres to work with...
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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers View Post
    Why is that and who's reasoning is it? I think it is a very good comparison. Are you saying that Hitler did not make a point of singling out a particular group of individuals?
    Actually he singled out a lot more than one particular group, in addition to the Jews, he targeted the Rom, the Poles, the deaf, the handicapped, homosexuals and others that didn't suit his Aryan vision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSD303 View Post
    You see, when you are schnauzers, you can call people Hitler on the InterWebz and it's all in good fun - you can't take what people say on the intertubes seriously. But if someone says your full name on the Internet, then you need to arm yourself and prepare for the coming invasion of your home and violation of your family. It's simple...

    That councilwoman that schnauzers called out on the Internet was just spotted buying firearms to protect her family from "some guy on the internet who mentioned her BY NAME and compared her to Hitler." See how this works?

    Why is this so hard for you people to understand?!? lol
    Point taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topmounter View Post
    Actually he singled out a lot more than one particular group, in addition to the Jews, he targeted the Rom, the Poles, the deaf, the handicapped, homosexuals and others that didn't suit his Aryan vision.
    True

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pabs View Post
    This thread is just like FDR ... lame.
    Agree, but by lame do you mean ineffective or disabled?

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    Boulder has some wicked good PR...

    Growing up in Arkansas and the southeast, (Fl to NC), we were always led to believe that Boulder CO was nirvana for all things related to outdoors, the perfect destination for anyone the rode a bike, hiked a trail or paddled a river, this was a place that we captured our imagination and shaped our dreams.

    It has the reputation of being the perfect location, close enough to Denver Metro for those of us who have to work, and near enough to all the features that the Rockies have to offer. When I moved her 10 years ago, Boulder was my first choice for an address, and then I found the cost of housing to be a bit prohibitive and looked elsewhere.

    In my ten years here, I have compiled quite the list of reasons to be grateful that I donít live in Boulder or Boulder County, these issues and proposals are simply the latest additions.
    Granted JeffCO is not perfect, and we have our own set of challenges, but in my book, they pale in comparison to what I see happening over the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by btadlock View Post
    Growing up in Arkansas and the southeast, (Fl to NC), we were always led to believe that Boulder CO was nirvana for all things related to outdoors, the perfect destination for anyone the rode a bike, hiked a trail or paddled a river, this was a place that we captured our imagination and shaped our dreams.

    It has the reputation of being the perfect location, close enough to Denver Metro for those of us who have to work, and near enough to all the features that the Rockies have to offer. When I moved her 10 years ago, Boulder was my first choice for an address, and then I found the cost of housing to be a bit prohibitive and looked elsewhere.

    In my ten years here, I have compiled quite the list of reasons to be grateful that I donít live in Boulder or Boulder County, these issues and proposals are simply the latest additions.
    Granted JeffCO is not perfect, and we have our own set of challenges, but in my book, they pale in comparison to what I see happening over the line.


    We are confusing county and city open spaces (I am guilty of this as well). If you compare Denver Mountain Parks and their mostly discriminatory view of MTB (past more-so than present) and Boulder OSMP, they are not much different. County to county open space, are pretty close as well, though I would tip it a little more to BC in terms of MTB cooperation.

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    So... wouldn't a bike trail from town eliminate some of the parking congestion at Dowdy Draw?
    Am I missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers View Post
    Agree, but by lame do you mean ineffective or disabled?
    Well, most threads on mtbr are pretty ineffective, and some should be disabled, but I thought this thread had no legs, i.e. it was not going anywhere interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brokefork View Post
    be careful, he's friends with chickens**t.
    moar ofwg lulz, plz^

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    Quote Originally Posted by WKD-RDR View Post
    Am I missing something?
    You have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WKD-RDR View Post
    So... wouldn't a bike trail from town eliminate some of the parking congestion at Dowdy Draw?
    Am I missing something?

    (sorry for the thread derailment)
    Wrong answer, a hiking only trail would solve the problem.


    I tapped that

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    Quote Originally Posted by topmounter View Post
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    Nice!

    mine ...



    I'm half tempted to Cafepress this thing.

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    I didn't want to add to this silly thread, but that ^^^ is awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrambler View Post
    I didn't want to add to this silly thread, but that ^^^ is awesome.
    Agreed.. but the tire thickness looks more like a front moto wheel than a mtb.. just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thump View Post
    Agreed.. but the tire thickness looks more like a front moto wheel than a mtb.. just sayin.
    Hey, I'm a hack at this.

    Lemme fix it ....... brb .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    Wrong answer, a hiking only trail would solve the problem.


    I tapped that
    The Mesa Trail isn't a hiking trail from Boulder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TVC15 View Post
    Hey, I'm a hack at this.

    Lemme fix it ....... brb .......
    You made that yourself? Nice..

    You could always just advocate for moto trails too.. that's an easy fight in Boulder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TVC15 View Post
    Hey, I'm a hack at this.

    Lemme fix it ....... brb .......
    Better?


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    Quote Originally Posted by thump View Post
    You made that yourself? Nice..
    Yup. Slim pickins using Google image search, too.

    You could always just advocate for moto trails too.. that's an easy fight in Boulder.
    Nothing's easy in Boulder. 'Cept the hippy chicks. So I hear. Heeeeee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TVC15 View Post
    Better?
    Perfect

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    Quote Originally Posted by TVC15 View Post
    Better?

    That does look pretty good, but I still despise those Coexist bumper stickers... Maybe if you changed the background color so folks wouldn't mistake them for the "real" thing.

    Those things always seem to be on some smugtard's car who is doing at least 2 of the following 4 things: belching smoke (either from the driver's face or from the car's defective exhaust hole), driving either 20 miles above or below the posted speed limit, cutting everyone else off and/or mindlessly chit-chatting on their cell phone. You'd think that if you were enough of a self-righteous prick to put one of those bumper stickers on your car, you'd at least TRY and walk the walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topmounter View Post
    That does look pretty good, but I still despise those Coexist bumper stickers... Maybe if you changed the background color so folks wouldn't mistake them for the "real" thing.
    Excellent point ...



    Quote Originally Posted by topmounter View Post
    You'd think that if you were enough of a self-righteous prick to put one of those bumper stickers on your car, you'd at least TRY and walk the walk.
    Kinda fitting given the intended recipients of this particular message.

    Thanks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by topmounter View Post
    .. driving either 20 miles above or below the posted speed limit..
    98.5% chance they'll be driving a Subaru wagon

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    I'm offended that off-leash dogs aren't represented.
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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