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    boo. no carnage.

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    Videos you need to see

    I'm checking "For Sale" in Craigslist for a Crown Vic so I can go jeeping in Moab.



    What goes up must come down, but this time it's a Jeep.

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    Bah. I like 4Runners.


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    Quote Originally Posted by icegeek View Post
    it must have cop shock & cop tires
    Yeah. But fix the cigarette lighter.

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    it must have cop shock & cop tires
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2wheelsnotfour View Post
    Bah. I like 4Runners.
    Dumbass. This is why Yota Yard is always well stocked when I go. Just because you put a crappy lift and 35s on it does not mean you can do anything you want (especially if you're a dumbass).

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    When in doubt throttle out.................right?

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    He almost had enough gas to do a back flip...
    Tact is for people not witty enough to be sarcastic...

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    Well...

    All I know is that when I see these types of vids, my MTB hobby starts to look really cheap.

    I'll take a scratched stanction tube, broken derailler hangar, or entire new bike compared to some of these $50k plus rigs. I get that the crawlers are built for this stuff but some of these guys with lifted stock jeeps...custom paint jobs and all....? I had jeep. Not cheap.
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    Yota Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka View Post
    Dumbass. This is why Yota Yard is always well stocked when I go. Just because you put a crappy lift and 35s on it does not mean you can do anything you want (especially if you're a dumbass).
    +1 for Yota Yard. Kept my '89 Yota going to 215k then I sold it to my buddy...still running!
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    J.E.E.P = just empty every pocket. trust me I know from experience.

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    Motorheads....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    J.E.E.P = just empty every pocket. trust me I know from experience.
    What are those little things? Tonka toys?

    I got your Jeep thing. Now it hurts when I pee.

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    One of the most amazing 4WD experiences I had was with my long gone '87 Toyota Xtracab. I was in super low, crawling along some rocky tract. I needed to go real slow across some area (don't ask me for details, this was a long time ago) so I eased down onto it. It was slightly downhill. Super low in that truck meant 4000 rpms at about 5 mph. I creeped across, things were looking good, revs were high.

    I got to the other side and realized I'd knocked it out of gear and I was in fact coasting through, but with my foot on the gas revving my motor. There was a lesson to be learned there but I'm not quite sure what it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka View Post
    What are those little things? Tonka toys?
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    Your right 37's are little to daily drive.

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    I got your Jeep thing. Now it hurts when I pee.
    Huh? Are you drinking tonight, or just mad you now have a built in flame thrower? .

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    Your right 37's are little to daily drive.



    Huh? Are you drinking tonight, or just mad you now have a built in flame thrower? .
    Bah! 37 TSls are really just big 35s.

    Actually, I shouldn't fuss. I hooked up with a Jeep club on Left Hand and followed them around. Good bunch. One guy was with his wife and little dog.

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    So you 4Runner owners out there are they worth their higher price? I'm exploring the possibility of getting something more off road capable then my Subaru Imprezza wagon which, by the way, continues to be very reliable. I wouldn't buy new, but rather 2-3 years old with 40,000 to 50,000 miles on it. Ideally I'd get something I would keep indefinitely without major repairs. I am not wrench and despise being stranded due to auto problems. The 4Runners seem to have an impeccable reputation for longevity. The Xterra seems to be average or worse longevity. The Pathfinders have poor reputations, and Jeep's longevity reputation is atrocious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2wheelsnotfour View Post
    So you 4Runner owners out there are they worth their higher price? I'm exploring the possibility of getting something more off road capable then my Subaru Imprezza wagon which, by the way, continues to be very reliable. I wouldn't buy new, but rather 2-3 years old with 40,000 to 50,000 miles on it. Ideally I'd get something I would keep indefinitely without major repairs. I am not wrench and despise being stranded due to auto problems. The 4Runners seem to have an impeccable reputation for longevity. The Xterra seems to be average or worse longevity. The Pathfinders have poor reputations, and Jeep's longevity reputation is atrocious.
    I would have said an 85 4Runner, but you don't want to wrench on it. I have one as my commuter car, and it has about 230 - 240K. The engine is still strong as an ox. The only things to go wrong with it are minor and stuff I can fix (power steering belt, new alternator). The third gen runners are good. My parents and sister each have one. 2-3 years old, though, is fourth or fifth gen. Personally, I think they put too much crap on them, too many things to go wrong.

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    I keep thinking its too bad the Xterra and Grand Cherokee don't have better reputations for trouble free longevity.

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    I've been pretty lucky with my Jeeps... I have a 2005 Grand Cherokee with 170,000+ miles on it without much more than normal maintenance. I've got an older 2000 Jeep Cherokee with 170,000 miles on it - same low maintenance. Of course, now that I've posted this, I'll need one of you to pick me up when the engine blows this week.

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    I got 230K out of the 22R in my '87 Toy SR5 truck. Replaced the clutch at 180k, an alternator here and there. My '97 Toy truck, not even an alternator. Just oil changes. I'd say get a Toyota of some sort. Research which years had better mileage. My '97 six cylinder had enough power and sometimes 23 on the highway. Later years had more displacement, more hp and way less mileage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xcguy View Post
    I got 230K out of the 22R in my '87 Toy SR5 truck. Replaced the clutch at 180k, an alternator here and there. My '97 Toy truck, not even an alternator. Just oil changes. I'd say get a Toyota of some sort. Research which years had better mileage. My '97 six cylinder had enough power and sometimes 23 on the highway. Later years had more displacement, more hp and way less mileage.
    I know, when they changed the body style and went bigger they kind of lost something...especially for wheeling and mileage as you mentioned. I think the late 90's were still the smaller body design and my bro got one with the TRD package. Slight lift and a locker in the rear. The thing can wheel and still gets great gas mileage.

    Also, totally random but right before I sold mine I talked to a mechanic at Stevenson and he said that you can really push the mileage on the timing belts on the toy trucks and SUV's if you have to. (Since it's around a $1k job unless you venture into it yourself...which is a good full weekend of work.) The belts on the trucks and SUV's are considerably thicker than the car ones and 70k is conservative. But...you've got the water pump, idler bearing etc. in there too and that can get you way before the belt. Also, the engines are all non-interference engines meaning if you break a timing belt you will need a tow but no valve or major engine damage. They were just designed well. I'd love to pick another one up someday.
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    I liked the body style of my '97 better than what came after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GL1 View Post
    I know, when they changed the body style and went bigger they kind of lost something...especially for wheeling and mileage as you mentioned. I think the late 90's were still the smaller body design and my bro got one with the TRD package. Slight lift and a locker in the rear. The thing can wheel and still gets great gas mileage.

    Also, totally random but right before I sold mine I talked to a mechanic at Stevenson and he said that you can really push the mileage on the timing belts on the toy trucks and SUV's if you have to. (Since it's around a $1k job unless you venture into it yourself...which is a good full weekend of work.) The belts on the trucks and SUV's are considerably thicker than the car ones and 70k is conservative. But...you've got the water pump, idler bearing etc. in there too and that can get you way before the belt. Also, the engines are all non-interference engines meaning if you break a timing belt you will need a tow but no valve or major engine damage. They were just designed well. I'd love to pick another one up someday.
    One more reason to go with the first gen Runner: timing CHAIN. I'm a fan of the mini trucks, but once you get into Taco territory all bets are off. You kind of have to weigh the pros and cons. The 22RE will go forever but not have any power. The 2.7 has power and good mileage, but it's not as dependable. The 3.0 is a pile of crap you can't give away. The 3.4 is nice, but (trust me on this) it is temperamental. The best thing to do is just stick with a 22RE and keep the body as light as possible.

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