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    Using Crank/Bash guards in Colorado

    Anyone use bash Guards out here? I am new out here, i didn't use them in New England, but there are alot more rocks out here and they are much bigger... Plus i have a SRAM x9 drive train to protect... Any thoughts or recommendations?


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    Quote Originally Posted by apo617
    Anyone use bash Guards out here? I am new out here, i didn't use them in New England, but there are alot more rocks out here and they are much bigger... Plus i have a SRAM x9 drive train to protect... Any thoughts or recommendations?


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    Lot's of people use em.

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    You know its a good idea when

    You see a single speed with one.

    All the teeth on you 55 ring are nubs.

    Most xc bikes have them on.

    I think you get it, the only time you need your big ring is if your riding on the rode or something flat, not much of that out here.

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    Definitely a good investment. Although it still won't stop you from going through a few X9 rear derailuers.

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    Where and how much did you get those booties for the dog? I need some for snowshoeing with my furry pal.

    Quote Originally Posted by zzsean
    Lot's of people use em.

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    Yep

    I'm running a 36/22/bash. Great combo for out here. You are more tempted to try a line if you aren't worried about taking a few teeth off of your big ring.
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    i need to get one. I never use my big ring and I am constantly worried about taking a few teeth out of it.

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    yep just put one on

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    Here's a good rule of thumb. Don't change anything for now. If you find that you're hitting your big ring often/hard enough to bend it, then ditch it and run a bashguard. Otherwise, keep the big ring on.
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    Or try...

    Doing what I did about 7 years ago, grind the teeth off your big ring for more clearance! When you finally crack it, get a bash! Been running a 36/22/bash for 6 years, works great for me, but then, I like those rocks in them 'thar mountains!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOEMTBR COLORADO
    You see a single speed with one.

    All the teeth on you 55 ring are nubs.

    Most xc bikes have them on.

    I think you get it, the only time you need your big ring is if your riding on the rode or something flat, not much of that out here.

    .02 cent opinion
    LOL !

    Good advice.

    I run guards on all 3 of my bikes: SS HT, 4" dualie & 6" dualie.
    Ain't no need for a big ring out here unless you're on the road.
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    Yeah, it's called my never used big ring

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    just threw on an e-thirteeen today as a matter of fact. my big ring took a pretty gnar hit, so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by apo617
    Anyone use bash Guards out here? I am new out here, i didn't use them in New England, but there are alot more rocks out here and they are much bigger... Plus i have a SRAM x9 drive train to protect... Any thoughts or recommendations?


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    Whoa. Where were you riding in New England???? My bashrings get way more abuse in CT and NY than it ever did in CO!
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    I decided to try a big ring, 44/32/22, for a while because it came with my new XT cranks. After a few weeks I notice all it did was lose a few teeth, I never used it. I changed it back to 24/36.

    But I'm thinking of putting it to 22/36 for better climbing. Anyone ever have problems with the big of difference between 2 rings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrublover
    Whoa. Where were you riding in New England???? My bashrings get way more abuse in CT and NY than it ever did in CO!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ignazjr
    Here's a good rule of thumb. Don't change anything for now. If you find that you're hitting your big ring often/hard enough to bend it, then ditch it and run a bashguard. Otherwise, keep the big ring on.
    This is good advice. I've been riding CO trails since 1993 and never had a bash ring and have never had to replace a big ring. YMMV.

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    I was heard that such a big difference wasn't a good idea but I've been running a 22/36/bash with no problem. I'm actually running a ramped 22 and a no ramp salsa 36. Some of most crisp shifts I've ever had. I did find that most bash guards only cover up to a 34 tooth so I had to get one that would cover the 36 tooth. Not a big deal just a little FYI for anyone wanting to try out a 36.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hookler
    I did find that most bash guards only cover up to a 34 tooth so I had to get one that would cover the 36 tooth. Not a big deal just a little FYI for anyone wanting to try out a 36.
    Just fyi, BBG bashguards come in different sizes, are cheap ($14 shipped) and work well. I've got three of them and I'm completely happy. Non-blingy but functional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hookler
    I was heard that such a big difference wasn't a good idea but I've been running a 22/36/bash with no problem. I'm actually running a ramped 22 and a no ramp salsa 36. Some of most crisp shifts I've ever had. I did find that most bash guards only cover up to a 34 tooth so I had to get one that would cover the 36 tooth. Not a big deal just a little FYI for anyone wanting to try out a 36.
    It shouldn't be a big deal especially if you have a seat tube clamp derailleur. Those E-type and braze-ons might limit your possibilities. A properly tuned road compact front derailleur can handle a 50-34 front combo so I'd expect that ordinarily you would be fine. Usually you'll be able to find the max jump on the manufacturer's website in the FAQ's.

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    I've got a 36 guard, it came with a different crankset. You can get DH guards up to 40 if you want.

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    Yes on the Bash guard

    I haven't ran a big ring on a mountain bike in over 10 years. If you are trail riding, why do you need a big ring anyway? Also, you can run a bigger ring/rings, with a bigger bash guard for a higher gearing. DH'ers do this. Most mountain bikes come stock with compact Mt. bike rings.

    I know a guy who is a very aggressive rider and last year he tore his calf open on his big ring. He now runs a bash guard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibelieveinsasquatch
    I haven't ran a big ring on a mountain bike in over 10 years. If you are trail riding, why do you need a big ring anyway?
    Seriously?

    I use the big ring a LOT on my trail rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    Seriously?

    I use the big ring a LOT on my trail rides.

    What trail are you riding that you would need the big ring besides fireroad at Waterton, and that's not even considered a trail. I only keep the big ring for commuting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosayno
    What trail are you riding that you would need the big ring besides fireroad at Waterton, and that's not even considered a trail. I only keep the big ring for commuting.
    I'm in the big ring on the perimeter trail at Green Mountain, the fire road up on the IC loop, Red Mesa loop up at Deer Creek... just to name a few off the top of my head. I *do* have the tendency to stay in the middle of my cassette, so maybe that accounts for it?

    It's also handy when I'm riding to the library or the grocery store or just around the 'hood.

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    Agreed. Follow the advice of Redstone Dave and others who have posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithnu
    22/36 for better climbing. Anyone ever have problems with the big of difference between 2 rings?
    nope. non-issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by daveM
    grind the teeth off your big ring for more clearance!
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    just make sure you file it down smooth, or you'll have a razor sharp ring-o-death near your calf!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOEMTBR COLORADO




    SCRUB!!!!

    We need picture

    Nice to see your still out and about. How was the winter back there.
    Winter wasn't too horrible. About two months of not really any riding, a month of very sporadic. Picked up a set of spiked tires for next winter.

    Two from today, just over the border in NY.



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    I use my big ring all the time when descending. There is less slack in the chain and doesn't slam the frame as much. Also, there are a lot of trails that you can use your big ring, Fruita for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papawheelie
    I use my big ring all the time when descending. There is less slack in the chain and doesn't slam the frame as much. Also, there are a lot of trails that you can use your big ring, Fruita for instance.

    My .01 cents
    With a dual ring you'd remove chain links to tighten it up, and running a med cage rd tightens up the chain even more (its better than a 3-ring long cage setup)

    Also, those big rings are sharp and dangerous. My thought is to try using 32-11 instead of the big ring and if thats enough gear for you get rid of the big ring. If it isn't then still get rid of the big ring and get a 36t and a bashguard to fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hookler
    I'm running a 36/22/bash. Great combo for out here. You are more tempted to try a line if you aren't worried about taking a few teeth off of your big ring.
    semi-hijack

    How does that shift? (36/22) I was thinking of running that gearing on my new build, but a little concerned about the jump. Granted, I don't do a bunch of front ring shifting (low to high) on the trail.

    To the original post, I have about $200 worth of taco'd 44's in a milk crate that I used maybe 4 times in 2 years before I spent $60 on 2 bash rings that I've had for 5 years. I'm not strong enough to push the big ring on the mountain, anyway. (the road is a different story)

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    Quote Originally Posted by single track mind
    To the original post, I have about $200 worth of taco'd 44's in a milk crate that I used maybe 4 times in 2 years before I spent $60 on 2 bash rings that I've had for 5 years. I'm not strong enough to push the big ring on the mountain, anyway. (the road is a different story)
    Same here.
    The downside to using the big ring as a "bash" is hitting it hard enough on the trail to the point that you can't shift to/from the middle ring and are stuck in the granny for the ride.

    Yup, it's happened to me.
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    Blackspire Big Ring Protector

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    Bashguard won't protect your Sram X9.

    I run big ring on xc bike since I use it from time to time when I get tired of hearing chain and derailleur slap on fast pedaly rocky section.

    I don't see why you need to pay more money for bashguard (other than looks) when big ring is already paid for when crankset was purchased...especially when big ring is not even plan to be used. Just use the already paid for big ring as a bashguard to protect the middle and granny ring. If you are concerned about big ring teeth staking into your calf, take it off and grind the teeth off on the grinding machine and put it back on.

    Mine has lost/rounded off about 1/3 of big ring teeth from riding (6 o'clock position when lead foot is forward) all in the same area but I never miss a shift or skip when pedaling.

    BTW, I have one on my long trail bike since it makes my bike look tough and one on my ss to protect the only ring and the chain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kosayno
    Where and how much did you get those booties for the dog? I need some for snowshoeing with my furry pal.
    I bought a similar one from the only pet store in Moab when I was there couple of yrs ago. I also seen the same one being sold at REI recently. About 60 buckaroo! Yup, it's made by Schwalbe.
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