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    Trestle bike park trails?

    I was wondering what will be the best trails to ride for a Beginner? This will be my 3rd time up there but this time i am going to rent a bike since i wont have room in my car for mine . I am soo looking forward to hit some sweet DH .

    For the last 2 July 4'th weekends i have been up there but i am going up Tuesday-Friday this year so i hope the it will be a Ghost town.

    Thanks for the input.
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    Shy Ann - Long Trail - Lonesome Whistle - Boot Camp - Boulevard - Free Speech. these trails should keep you entertained for a good amount of time...then as you progress you can start to jump up to some of the more difficult trails.

    do yourself a favor and upgrade to the demo program and get yourself a brand new super sweet bike! I recommend the SX Trail.

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    Just stay off of Trestle DH and Be All You Can Be. About everything else should be super fun. You might not be the fastest - but who cares!!?
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    What Klaus said. My 12 year old son and myself went yesterday and the only "hard" trail on the mountain is Trestle. Everything is rollable and there are no true big drops. It is a pretty safe place to hone your skills. Everything is marked and there are no big surprises. It was a fun place to ride.

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    Thanks Guys. When i am up there i always watch the guys come down and watch in envy. This year my wife said to go and they ( her and my Sis inlaw ) will watch my Nieces so i can enjoy a day on the Mtn. I am going to enjoy the late riding Wednesday because they keep the lifts open till 7..
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    Can you really roll the drops on Be All You Can Be? I hit them all the time but not sure I would try and roll them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBX5
    Can you really roll the drops on Be All You Can Be? I hit them all the time but not sure I would try and roll them.
    Yeah, it can get a little sketchy, but it's certainly doable.

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    On the flip side of the OP, what's up with the steep techy gnar stuff? I'm seeing plenty of jumps and berms but I'm hoping for an update on some truly scary trails. I know the terrain is there, and whatever happened to i2i?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBX5
    Can you really roll the drops on Be All You Can Be? I hit them all the time but not sure I would try and roll them.
    Be All... requires a 2-3 ft drop off the wood in the beginning. But if you pop off the wood and land on the tranny, then it's actually really smooth. Two strong pedal strokes on the wood and the tranny is a sure thing.
    I'm not sure if you can roll the exit air off the wood at the end either. Again, a small pop and you're in the tranny and it's smooth goodness.
    There's a pretty big step up in the middle. Once you round the berm, start pedaling. You can roll it on the left, but you'll need speed. So, pump everything you can, especially the dip right before.
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    green world should be open by next weekend so beginners can have a great experience. "Rain Maker" which is what the jump trail is now officially called will have a new section open hopefully for Wednesday afternoon. Big berms and nice big jumps. More singletrack on the go including upper No Quarter which will send you into the existing section at about 20-30mph to allow for some more speed through the whole trail. More trails or sections of trail will be opening up straight through until closing day.

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    Dave... burritos tomorrow?

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    yep, skate decks too.

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    Any chance some of the existing stuff will be worked on? The berms are starting to show some signs of wear, chatter bumps, etc...
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    yes, maintenance will be a priority. The crew was focused on GW and RM. Now that the end is in sight it will be buffing up the existing stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gldk
    yes, maintenance will be a priority. The crew was focused on GW and RM. Now that the end is in sight it will be buffing up the existing stuff.
    Thank you, sir!
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    Went up to WP today and had a great time. Rode everything in sight from Trestle DH to Shy Ann and everything in between. Some friends up from NM were amazed at how good Trestle and SV are.

    We have now hit SV, Keystone and Trestle. Man, are we blessed. If you can't have fun on a gravity bike at any of these areas, you just don't have a pulse. Imagine riding the best rollercoaster on earth as many times as you can until you just can't ride any more.

    These are salad days for DH in Colorado..get out there and ride! The areas are all working really hard to show you a great time, and the trails are just awesome.

    As for Be All U Can Be, I wouldn't recommend it if you are going to roll the drops, as pointed out, you need to at least pop the launches, but to me the jump in the middle of the three wooden drops is the danger. That thing deserves respect. If you are riding that line for the first time, take it easy as that thing has a nasty kick.

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    That was my thought on Be All U Can Be just a small pop makes it to the transitions but I for one would not want to roll the drops. I've had a few people ask me when I was starting the trail if you could roll it but never felt comfertable telling them yes.

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    chris I would recomend hitting the new greenworld trails along with long trail and shy ann in that order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by honkinunit
    Went up to WP today and had a great time. Rode everything in sight from Trestle DH to Shy Ann and everything in between. Some friends up from NM were amazed at how good Trestle and SV are.

    We have now hit SV, Keystone and Trestle. Man, are we blessed. If you can't have fun on a gravity bike at any of these areas, you just don't have a pulse. Imagine riding the best rollercoaster on earth as many times as you can until you just can't ride any more.

    These are salad days for DH in Colorado..get out there and ride! The areas are all working really hard to show you a great time, and the trails are just awesome.
    I couldn't agree more! My weekend so far has gone as follows:
    Friday - duck out of work early and get up to Sol Vista in time to see Steve Peat and hear the stories of his riding. Rip Sol Vista trails from 5-7pm.
    Saturday - Ride Winter Park from 9.30am-4.30pm, drive down to Sol Vista and ride Stranger, Cheezit, Silky, etc from 5pm to 7pm.
    Sunday - Take a "break" from Frazier valley and drive over to Keystone for a day more DH goodness. Haven't been to Keystone for the past 2 seasons and it was fun to get back there.
    Monday (today) will be Winter Park with friends again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zzsean
    I couldn't agree more! My weekend so far has gone as follows:
    Friday - duck out of work early and get up to Sol Vista in time to see Steve Peat and hear the stories of his riding. Rip Sol Vista trails from 5-7pm.
    Saturday - Ride Winter Park from 9.30am-4.30pm, drive down to Sol Vista and ride Stranger, Cheezit, Silky, etc from 5pm to 7pm.
    Sunday - Take a "break" from Frazier valley and drive over to Keystone for a day more DH goodness. Haven't been to Keystone for the past 2 seasons and it was fun to get back there.
    Monday (today) will be Winter Park with friends again.

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    Hmm Yea but that is why we live here right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by airwreck
    On the flip side of the OP, what's up with the steep techy gnar stuff? I'm seeing plenty of jumps and berms but I'm hoping for an update on some truly scary trails. I know the terrain is there, and whatever happened to i2i?
    "i2i" still there......it's not at the resort!

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    The guys shuttled "Rain Maker" today. First lap everyone agreed it was slow and soft, by the 5th lap everyone was super stoked and trannies were being hit. Nice floaty airs and huge berms. It is going to be slow for a couple days but a little rain and a bunch of riders the trail is going to be sick. Come check it out, you won't be dissapointed. Open Wednesday for sure!! Videos and Pics ASAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gldk
    yes, maintenance will be a priority. The crew was focused on GW and RM. Now that the end is in sight it will be buffing up the existing stuff.

    GW? Can I buy a vowel?
    This won't hurt a bit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gldk
    yes, maintenance will be a priority. The crew was focused on GW and RM. Now that the end is in sight it will be buffing up the existing stuff.
    Can you talk to the lifties about proper bike loading and unloading? The lift is bad enough without being restricted by loading only 2 bikes at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonvelocity
    Can you talk to the lifties about proper bike loading and unloading? The lift is bad enough without being restricted by loading only 2 bikes at a time.

    Not sure what you mean??? The lifties at WP are the nicest people I've ran into. Why would they need to load your bike??? Didn't know there was a restricted amount of bikes I've ran by myself with one bike, and have done either 2 or three when I'm not riding alone, and the lift lines at WP are usually very fast if not a line at all. Are you sure you aren't referring to Keystone and the Gondola??

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    Quote Originally Posted by gldk
    The guys shuttled "Rain Maker" today. First lap everyone agreed it was slow and soft, by the 5th lap everyone was super stoked and trannies were being hit. Nice floaty airs and huge berms. It is going to be slow for a couple days but a little rain and a bunch of riders the trail is going to be sick. Come check it out, you won't be dissapointed. Open Wednesday for sure!! Videos and Pics ASAP.
    Pics ........ or it didn't happen!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo Maestro
    Pics ........ or it didn't happen!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonvelocity
    Can you talk to the lifties about proper bike loading and unloading? The lift is bad enough without being restricted by loading only 2 bikes at a time.
    What you talkin' about JV? All day long on Sun we were gettin' 3 bikes at a time ........maybe it's just you. Respect gets respect....jus' sayin......

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    On Monday, they were only allowing two on at a time. One of the un-loaders tried to send my bike down the hill without me.

    My perspective is that the trail builders are doing a great job, but the rest of the mountain is undermining their good work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonvelocity
    On Monday, they were only allowing two on at a time. One of the un-loaders tried to send my bike down the hill without me.

    My perspective is that the trail builders are doing a great job, but the rest of the mountain is undermining their good work.
    Dropping a bike would definitely be a no-no. I heard it was early and only lasted a couple hours. The night before was the 4th, so ..... someone stayed out watching fireworks, had a couple brews, slept late and didn't make it to work on time. You know how those mountain folk are! Just seems kinda harsh ... the whole "undermining" ... now if one of those "*****es" drops a bike, that's a different story!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonvelocity
    My perspective is that the trail builders are doing a great job, but the rest of the mountain is undermining their good work.
    I've been there each weekend (aside from last) since they've opened & would have to disagree with you. Never been limited by the lifties & most of them are more than pleasant. My only complaint that I could come up with is that there is that there is no discount for a buddy with your pass. (and having to walk from time to time... so cumbersome...)
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    How about we take the "let it burn approach" with the rotting cesspool of the Denver metro?

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    pics are posted in in Rainmaker - new section open thread. they are also linked in our gallery. http://trestlebikepark.com/photos.html enjoy! the trail has been open 3 hours now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zzsean
    I couldn't agree more! My weekend so far has gone as follows:
    Friday - duck out of work early and get up to Sol Vista in time to see Steve Peat and hear the stories of his riding. Rip Sol Vista trails from 5-7pm.
    Saturday - Ride Winter Park from 9.30am-4.30pm, drive down to Sol Vista and ride Stranger, Cheezit, Silky, etc from 5pm to 7pm.
    Sunday - Take a "break" from Frazier valley and drive over to Keystone for a day more DH goodness. Haven't been to Keystone for the past 2 seasons and it was fun to get back there.
    Monday (today) will be Winter Park with friends again.

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    Funny, I didn't dare leave my house due to all the tourists those days, they are the worst of the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karpiel666
    Funny, I didn't dare leave my house due to all the tourists those days, they are the worst of the year.
    Staying home and not enjoying the awesomeness that is our mountains on a long weekend with amazing weather seems a poor alternative to taking the frontage road alongside I-70.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zzsean
    Staying home and not enjoying the awesomeness that is our mountains on a long weekend with amazing weather seems a poor alternative to taking the frontage road alongside I-70.


    Why? I live here (in your mountains), and when not injured, ski, bike, fish etc. pretty much right out my door with no one around 5 days a week. You can have the weekends and holidays, thats when I get work done around the house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karpiel666
    Why? I live here (in your mountains), and when not injured, ski, bike, fish etc. pretty much right out my door with no one around 5 days a week. You can have the weekends and holidays, thats when I get work done around the house.
    ahh, see that is cheating! I assumed (wrongly) you stayed home in Denver. Staying home while living in the mountains is an entirely different beast. I would play on the holiday weekends as well though even if I lived up there.

    Luckily I ride my bike in the mountains on the weekends and after work in the summer. I don't mind driving an hour into the hills after work and still getting 3-4 hours of play time on my bike up above 9K. The weekends let's me get further in and have even more fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karpiel666
    Why? I live here (in your mountains), and when not injured, ski, bike, fish etc. pretty much right out my door with no one around 5 days a week. You can have the weekends and holidays, thats when I get work done around the house.

    Yup! That's the way to do it. Enjoy the gaper free times... and stay close when the swarms come up the hill!!! People wonder why I go to grand county instead of stinking Scummit if I do leave the county on the weekends...
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    Quote Originally Posted by backcountryislife
    I've been there each weekend (aside from last) since they've opened & would have to disagree with you. Never been limited by the lifties & most of them are more than pleasant. My only complaint that I could come up with is that there is that there is no discount for a buddy with your pass. (and having to walk from time to time... so cumbersome...)
    well if you have a Trestle pass you get 50% of rental/demo or rental/lift packages for up to 2 other people when you take them into the shop (as in you have to be there with your pass)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutchie
    well if you have a Trestle pass you get 50% of rental/demo or rental/lift packages for up to 2 other people when you take them into the shop (as in you have to be there with your pass)
    Hey Mutchie - I got the 50% off the last time I was in and tried the Demo 8 II - which was awesome. Half the guys in the shop/rental said you don't get that deal, and you and a few others say you do. They gave me the deal but they said it was a one time shot. Anyway - I think it is an awesome deal but do you actually get 50% off rental with a pass?

    Secondly it seems everyone is in agreement that you do get 15% off anything in the store for sale - got some fox bomber gloves for about the same price as online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvanLasston
    Hey Mutchie - I got the 50% off the last time I was in and tried the Demo 8 II - which was awesome. Half the guys in the shop/rental said you don't get that deal, and you and a few others say you do. They gave me the deal but they said it was a one time shot. Anyway - I think it is an awesome deal but do you actually get 50% off rental with a pass?

    Secondly it seems everyone is in agreement that you do get 15% off anything in the store for sale - got some fox bomber gloves for about the same price as online.
    thanks for taking the time to ask the question. yes anyone with a Trestle season's pass get 50% along with up to 2 others off as laid out in my post above. i will bring this up as a reminder in the store tomorrow to make sure everyone is on the same page. this forum is a great source of feedback.

    season pass holders also get 15% off regular retail price as well. so do WPRR home owners.

    BTW anyone with a lift ticket gets $10 off any jersey with a Trestle logo. look for some tent sale deal on Fox and others at the Crankworx weekend.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutchie
    thanks for taking the time to ask the question. yes anyone with a Trestle season's pass get 50% along with up to 2 others off as laid out in my post above. i will bring this up as a reminder in the store tomorrow to make sure everyone is on the same page. this forum is a great source of feedback.

    season pass holders also get 15% off regular retail price as well. so do WPRR home owners.

    BTW anyone with a lift ticket gets $10 off any jersey with a Trestle logo. look for some tent sale deal on Fox and others at the Crankworx weekend.

    Thanks

    Awesome, this will make it easier to convince some others to come along and take advantage of my season pass And, it's nice to know the standing discount on parts/accessories/etc.

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    Thanks for all the posting to this Thread. I just got back and it was sweet the only thing that sucked was my bike. I had room for it after all and man it was like riding a NS Bike.Now i need to save up to get a real rig for WP.

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    Middle Step Up on Be All

    So whats the deal on the middle step up? Can you round the berm and pump the roller to clear the gap/step up or do you need to be pedaling out of the turn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 187
    So whats the deal on the middle step up? Can you round the berm and pump the roller to clear the gap/step up or do you need to be pedaling out of the turn?
    Shouldn't be an issue to do that at all I get most of my speed from popping the step down before it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBX5
    That was my thought on Be All U Can Be just a small pop makes it to the transitions but I for one would not want to roll the drops. I've had a few people ask me when I was starting the trail if you could roll it but never felt comfertable telling them yes.

    How big are these drops and are the landing zones free of debris? Reason I ask is that i have never ridden the trail and since they are not recommended to be rolled, how do you know what to expect the first time your riding te trail?

    I guess there is the good old "take your time and check out each feature the first run", but that isn't as fun,. though I suppose is the best answer.

    Also, someone mentioned a step down...I'm all for step downs, but those are way sketchier to line up on a first run because the landings are completely blind.

    Having said that, and maybe this is a better question for the trail designer, but are the jumps and drops designed to be hit so that the average rider will be able to clear them and find the backside transition if they just ride at their pace and hit stuff at their level? Or are some of the things sized so that world cup level cornering skills are required to carry the speed from a corner to a jump without pedaling? I raced DH and MX at an expert level a few years back and am finally back on a bike that warrants riding some chairs (Giant reign X with the fox 36 on it). Also, are the features designed for being sucked up/scrubbed to find backside or being popped at a race type speed...generally I would guess scrubbed. Are there any features that if you carry sped into you will find yourself floating out into oblivion with no landing (I ran into this at one of my first DH races and blew up into a pile of powdery dust (which is why its probably better to inspect the features thsn to assume the trial builders would have done it the same way you would)?

    Thanks for any information...would love to get up to the park and be able to get up to speed as quickly as possible to make the most of the day. Not exactly a race, so I don't want to hike and inspect all the features.

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    The step down I mentioned is right before the step up. It really isn't a traditional step down but is more of a booter to pretty steep transition. It works as a great way to gain speed for the step up. Your Reign with a 36 would be a good bike for the trail. The only hard jump to clear on the trail is the one at the top. It takes commitment to make it to the tranny but it is definitely rollable too. The drops are nothing to worry about they are built really nicely with very smooth transitions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCR1
    How big are these drops and are the landing zones free of debris? Reason I ask is that i have never ridden the trail and since they are not recommended to be rolled, how do you know what to expect the first time your riding te trail?

    I guess there is the good old "take your time and check out each feature the first run", but that isn't as fun,. though I suppose is the best answer.

    Also, someone mentioned a step down...I'm all for step downs, but those are way sketchier to line up on a first run because the landings are completely blind.

    Having said that, and maybe this is a better question for the trail designer, but are the jumps and drops designed to be hit so that the average rider will be able to clear them and find the backside transition if they just ride at their pace and hit stuff at their level? Or are some of the things sized so that world cup level cornering skills are required to carry the speed from a corner to a jump without pedaling? I raced DH and MX at an expert level a few years back and am finally back on a bike that warrants riding some chairs (Giant reign X with the fox 36 on it). Also, are the features designed for being sucked up/scrubbed to find backside or being popped at a race type speed...generally I would guess scrubbed. Are there any features that if you carry sped into you will find yourself floating out into oblivion with no landing (I ran into this at one of my first DH races and blew up into a pile of powdery dust (which is why its probably better to inspect the features thsn to assume the trial builders would have done it the same way you would)?

    Thanks for any information...would love to get up to the park and be able to get up to speed as quickly as possible to make the most of the day. Not exactly a race, so I don't want to hike and inspect all the features.

    Honestly, I have yet to run across something that was the least bit sketchy the first time down at WP. On BallUcanB the only thing I can think that you wouldn't roll is the first little hit off the wood drop in ramp, and I would guess it's rollable, I just haven't tried. You can take a slow to mid speed run through there for a 1st run & be rather safe. Even the things that look like a drop are rollable. If you carry speed for it, it feels pretty smooth, I can't stand the "step down" feature mentioned, it screws me up every time, but not with any consequence aside from not smoothing the stepup. There's nothing that would be considered unexpected on that run imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TCR1
    How big are these drops and are the landing zones free of debris? Reason I ask is that i have never ridden the trail and since they are not recommended to be rolled, how do you know what to expect the first time your riding te trail?

    I guess there is the good old "take your time and check out each feature the first run", but that isn't as fun,. though I suppose is the best answer.

    Also, someone mentioned a step down...I'm all for step downs, but those are way sketchier to line up on a first run because the landings are completely blind.

    Having said that, and maybe this is a better question for the trail designer, but are the jumps and drops designed to be hit so that the average rider will be able to clear them and find the backside transition if they just ride at their pace and hit stuff at their level? Or are some of the things sized so that world cup level cornering skills are required to carry the speed from a corner to a jump without pedaling? I raced DH and MX at an expert level a few years back and am finally back on a bike that warrants riding some chairs (Giant reign X with the fox 36 on it). Also, are the features designed for being sucked up/scrubbed to find backside or being popped at a race type speed...generally I would guess scrubbed. Are there any features that if you carry sped into you will find yourself floating out into oblivion with no landing (I ran into this at one of my first DH races and blew up into a pile of powdery dust (which is why its probably better to inspect the features thsn to assume the trial builders would have done it the same way you would)?

    Thanks for any information...would love to get up to the park and be able to get up to speed as quickly as possible to make the most of the day. Not exactly a race, so I don't want to hike and inspect all the features.
    You answered you own question in sentence 3. Look before you leap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo Maestro
    You answered you own question in sentence 3. Look before you leap!
    Maybe I'll meet a nice rider up there willing to lend me a back wheel to follow. Never know. I thought I read once where one of the top DHers first run on a course was usually his fastest...thought it might be Peat, but not sure. Think it was in an interview article with him from one of the early decline magazines...

    Anyway, thanks for the info. Big to some people is way bigger than I would ever go (Crankworx), and to others, big is not significant. a little two foot drop in the middle of a DH run is really not much to think of. The 6-8 footer they had in the middle of the Durango National course was awesome (as was the decent sized doubles before entering the steeps in the aspens), because it was big enough to make you think about it, gave you the fun floaty feeling, but was built such that you could hit it first run...course you could see itfrom the lift. Keep in mind I am reminiscing back to 2003...

    Need to finish repainting my FF and just go ride...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinkerjuarez
    The step down I mentioned is right before the step up. It really isn't a traditional step down but is more of a booter to pretty steep transition. It works as a great way to gain speed for the step up. Your Reign with a 36 would be a good bike for the trail. The only hard jump to clear on the trail is the one at the top. It takes commitment to make it to the tranny but it is definitely rollable too. The drops are nothing to worry about they are built really nicely with very smooth transitions.
    Cool, thanks. Single hits have never really been an issue for me, it is the rythem sections that ball me up (atleast the tighter ones. I can hack through a lot of them with a lot of practice, but nothing like what a smooth dirt jumper can do.

    Good info

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