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    Top Secret Freeride Trails - Give 'em up!

    Anyone care to make public some super top secret trails, or at least some not-so top secret trails?

    I lived in UT for the past 5 yrs. and was able to find/ride some nice trails near Park City, Cottonwoods, etc. that had it ALL.

    The kind of trail I'm looking for is one that you can access via a bike ride up, but going down on another trail (a loop) featuring bridges, ladders, jumps, berms, drops, and no rangers giving speeding/yielding tickets!!!

    I'm not interested in riding a chairlift or going to Keystone, Sol Vista.

    Please help a brutha out!

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    "Please help a brotha out"? By requesting where a trail featuring bridges, ladders, jumps, berms, drops, and no rangers giving speeding/yielding tickets is? Oh, you mean an illegal trail, or at least one that isn't officially recognized by land managers. Sorry bud, but you burned that bridge when you helped divulge the existence of a trail dedicated to advanced riding like what you're requesting. If you hadn't done that, we'd be talking through PM's about when we can meet up to ride, and if you were ok with keeping secrets, we'd be riding something of this nature together. Sorry, but I don't know you and I don't trust you.
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    What your looking for does notexist. Sorry bra

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    there is a top secret trail called green mountain - it has it all - go there and stay there

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    Nickle,

    I was expecting this type of reaction. But, you were actually a little more friendlier than expected.

    I never asked for Illegal. Super top secret is kinda me joking around.

    Maybe just give some hints... or there has to be some good 'legal' stuff?

    ColoRADo is supposed to be more liberal than Utah.... UT has a ton of legal trail features on USFS land and BLM land. (and I'm not talking Moab)

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    Yeah - I'm aware of several such trails. Oh - wait, nevermind.
    Last edited by Godzilla; 07-22-2008 at 01:01 PM.
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    Really?

    This is a mountain biking forum. People are here to talk about mountain biking. This isn't a local newspaper or television station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drop the Seat
    Really?

    This is a mountain biking forum. People are here to talk about mountain biking. This isn't a local newspaper or television station.
    Even my dogs know not to sh*t where they sleep.
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    I'll agree with you there, super top secret is kind of a joke. I think that any time someone feels they are outside some circle of friends, they perceive that everything must be "super top secret". Not at all. Most trails have a show, don't tell attitude, even if they are lesser known. It protects the trail from overcrowding, even if it takes a long time for the game of Telephone to come into effect. For other trails I have been explicitly told not to tell anyone and I respect that. I'll continue to stay tight lipped about even their existence because I didn't build, find, or harvest the trail and even if it is on public land, I do not have a right to advertise it or hint at its existence. Does that mean it's "super top secret"? No, but it does mean that I have enough respect for other riders and builders to protect those little gems because they are so rare. If they weren't, you wouldn't be asking where they are on a public forum, eh?

    As for where the good, legal stuff is, that's a hard one. As far as a trail like that gets is "quasi-legal". (I know, it's either legal or not, but hear me out.) In these rare cases, the trail exists on old maps, or recent ones, but has been long forgotten. Most of these should never, and will never see any unnatural features, but a few of them do see berms, jumps, drops, and even wooden features (but personally, I'd discourage wooden features that aren't built for erosion). Even then, it's in the best interest of the builder to tell as few of people as possible.

    Unfortunately, and IMO, you blew it in terms of trust. I hope that if you do find out about any illegal or quasi-legal trails in the future, that you use discretion and respect that this is a preciously scarce resource that should be treated as such.
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    OK. I respect that reply.

    I'll try Green Mountain. Everyone I've talked to says it is the most epic extreme ride in Front Range.

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    How do I remove this hook from my cheek?
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    Remove hook with WD-40.

    I'll keep fishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drop the Seat
    OK. I respect that reply.

    I'll try Green Mountain. Everyone I've talked to says it is the most epic extreme ride in Front Range.
    Cool. Good luck on your search. If you do want to ever meet up and ride, drop me a line. We can debate trail ethics 'till the stars come out while cracking beers afterward. If there's one thing my years of forum hounding has taught me, it's that internet personalities tend to differ from true personalities. If you ever want to come down for a ride, I'm not going to deny you of that... but we might stay to well recognized, published trail until we get to know each other better.
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    What is a secret trail? I need to pay attention more...
    Tact is for people not witty enough to be sarcastic...

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    Alright, I'll play. Here is a secret trail...







    Happy?
    Tact is for people not witty enough to be sarcastic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla
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    unplug the cat-5 from your computer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brettf
    unplug the cat-5 from your computer.

    People plug cats into their computers?
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    If there's one thing my years of forum hounding has taught me, it's that internet personalities tend to differ from true personalities.
    Yeah, I masquerade here as an engineer who races downhill with a slightly sarcastic attitude and a taste for cheap beer and heavy metal. But in reality I work at Circuit City, ride road bikes, listen to emo music and drink wine
    You have just been mentally Rick Roll'd. Yup you're thinking about it right now aren't you? Don't fight it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithnu
    Yeah, I masquerade here as an engineer who races downhill with a slightly sarcastic attitude and a taste for cheap beer and heavy metal. But in reality I work at Circuit City, ride road bikes, listen to emo music and drink wine
    You too? We should meet up and talk cabernets.
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drop the Seat
    Anyone care to make public some super top secret trails, or at least some not-so top secret trails?

    I lived in UT for the past 5 yrs. and was able to find/ride some nice trails near Park City, Cottonwoods, etc. that had it ALL.

    The kind of trail I'm looking for is one that you can access via a bike ride up, but going down on another trail (a loop) featuring bridges, ladders, jumps, berms, drops, and no rangers giving speeding/yielding tickets!!!

    I'm not interested in riding a chairlift or going to Keystone, Sol Vista.

    Please help a brutha out!
    Hmm... I'm seriously debating this.

    Lot's of stuff west of JeffCO. Download Topofusion and start 'splorin. If you stay off of Wilderness Area, Open Space, and private land I have a feeling you will find gold (hint).

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    I nominate you for the official Colorado Front Range AssHat Question of the Week Award.

    Anyone second the notion?
    Phillipians 2:3-8 "...but (Christ) made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant..."

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    Hey, I knew about the "Bro Code" before I posted this... if you didn't build it, or help maintain it, then you don't belong on it. I get that. But, if and when, I find what I'm looking for, trust me, I'm alway good about keeping stuff maintained, and staying low-key.

    If anyone is interested in a trade of information, I can spit out a lot of good stuff in Eagle County.... I know it is far from here, but it's good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icegeek
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    five of them no less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drop the Seat
    Hey, I knew about the "Bro Code" before I posted this... if you didn't build it, or help maintain it, then you don't belong on it. I get that. But, if and when, I find what I'm looking for, trust me, I'm alway good about keeping stuff maintained, and staying low-key.

    If anyone is interested in a trade of information, I can spit out a lot of good stuff in Eagle County.... I know it is far from here, but it's good.
    I believe that you know about it, DTS, but reread your first and second paragraphs. They completely contradict each other. And based on your past discretion, I don't trust that you will keep any trail low key. So which is it, are you trying to blow the whistle on lesser known trails, or are you going to ride, maintain, and keep quiet about them? I want to believe the later, but you aren't giving me that warm and fuzzy feeling when your actions contradict your words.
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    I'm getting paid this very moment to lurk through this forum, create a fake username, and try to gain intimate access to the underworld known as freeride mountain biking.

    I work for Jefferson County Open Space. This is your tax dollars at work. Can you believe it, they are actually paying me... I mean with all the stuff going on in JefCo, they find time and money in their budget to pay me to infiltrate the freeride underworld.

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