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    Tire Rave

    It's rare I find the perfect tire....It's like the perfect beer.

    With the tires in mind, I have a tire fetish...even in photographing them.



    However.......................



    After glorious reviews about the Schwalbe Big Betty, I of course, got one.

    It sat there for nearly a year...in my travel bag...desperately waiting it must have been. I was punishing it like a good Dom does.

    I finally put it on three weeks ago in Moab..going "meh"....on the front...to replace a perfectly good Panaracer 2.4 which I love the way it corners and hooks up, but was like molasses on the climbs

    Oh my how Betty is different...

    The Big Betty stepped up and kicked some b!tch ass. It has it all. Solid cornering knobs. Fast, Fat (sorry, full figured big and beautiful)...but perfectly balanced. I love her rubber.

    Seriously...An amazing tire. Simply amazing.

    Pix coming soon...with leather whips and all that stuff.
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    They come highly recommended by some of the best in the biz. I will be trying them out next. I'm on the Alberts now and like them a lot but the Bettys step up the grip and confidence even more, I hear.

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    My tire collection is embarrassingly vast. No, really. I make Imelda Marcos' shoe collection look like it was assembled by a pococurante. But, I have no Betty.

    Today's ride was on a Kenda Kinetics 2.6 Stick E folder in front (about 840 grams), and a Michelin "Mountain Dry [2] X" 2.3 folder in the rear (750'ish). The Michelin is a true to size high volume fast roller, hard to beat on hardpack. The Kinetics 2.6 Stick E is a damn good "big" tire made even better since Jenson's is selling them for like $9 these days.

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    Wurd on the Kinetics...

    Quote Originally Posted by DWF
    . The Kinetics 2.6 Stick E is a damn good "big" tire made even better since Jenson's is selling them for like $9 these days.
    I like 'em too, got 4 for $5 each, then 4 more for free!

    Very sticky on rock, good everywhere else!
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    Uhh, never mind.
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    Wink since i'm sure i won't be the only one...

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    (i'll have to try those bettys... haven't ran any of the schwalbes yet)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    It's rare I find the perfect tire....It's like the perfect beer.

    Oh my how Betty is different..
    I was big on the Nics for a few rounds, but the price, ouch.
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    Hey Rich, my Fire FR weighs 880gr on the digi scale, thought the Big Bettys were heavier? I need to try that 2.6 Kinetics up front. I run UST on the smaller bike and the Sch Fat Albert is the best UST front I've tried, altho a bit heavy for an XC bike

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    Rich....I concur

    For '08 Schwalbe dropped over 100gm from the Betty. The sidewall will be made from their Kevlar snakeskin compound instead of butyl. There will also be a UST verstion weighly only slightly more than the current version and a mega-carcass DH version.

    I've been running BBs F & R for 2 years. Sometimes I put a Maxxis Minion DHF 2.35 in the rear which rolls better & is lighter but doesn't seem to give up too much forward traction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daveM
    I like 'em too, got 4 for $5 each, then 4 more for free!

    Very sticky on rock, good everywhere else!
    You must of got yours where I got mine, 2 pair for free!
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    hmmm.... I'm a huge Maxxis fan, but the 2.6's look fun.... I'll have to get a few! can't have too many options for tire!

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    The Bettys are probably the best tires for aggressive riding here but I do like the Minions a lot. I wish they slapped a UST bead on that tire though. In my old age, paranoia sets in and I hate converting tires anymore. The nice thing about the Minions is they are practically as airtight as a good UST tire. The three I like for Colorado are the Albert/Fat Albert, Minion 2.35, and the Betty, though I have not tried it yet- waiting for the UST version. They should also do the Nobby Nics in 2.4 UST. That would be a good one for most trails- maybe not Devil's Backbone though. That place would shred the NNs quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotdirt
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    (i'll have to try those bettys... haven't ran any of the schwalbes yet)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer
    The Bettys are probably the best tires for aggressive riding here but I do like the Minions a lot. I wish they slapped a UST bead on that tire though. In my old age, paranoia sets in and I hate converting tires anymore. The nice thing about the Minions is they are practically as airtight as a good UST tire. The three I like for Colorado are the Albert/Fat Albert, Minion 2.35, and the Betty, though I have not tried it yet- waiting for the UST version. They should also do the Nobby Nics in 2.4 UST. That would be a good one for most trails- maybe not Devil's Backbone though. That place would shred the NNs quickly.
    The Minion is an excellent tire, but the 2.35 folding version is too damn small. It's really about a 2.1. Maxxis tires are always well under the label claim with the exception of the 2.4 Advantage. The Advantage is an excellent tire for our conditions, but the side walls are wimpy. If Maxxis would make their 2.5 Minion DH tire as a UST compatible AM tire at about 900 grams, they'd sell like hotcakes...at least to me.

    Michelin's 2.5 Xtreme UST is a great FR/AM tire that leans towards the burly. It's about 1000 grams, great traction & toughness for our conditions. My only dislikes about it is that it has a more round profile which I don't like in a front tire and it's freakin' grey with black sidewalls. Just make them black, please.

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    Another vote on the Kenda Sticky 2.6" stuff. Bought cheap. They're working very well out here in the new locale.

    4 front, 4 rear. Shipped to me all up was about $52, thanks to a friendly tip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrublover
    4 front, 4 rear. Shipped to me all up was about $52, thanks to a friendly tip.
    A tip you'd like to share?

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    I'm thinking about becoming a tire connoisseur

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    Just ordered the following from Universal:

    1 pair Maxxis Ignitor (2.1")
    1 pair Michelin XC Mountain Dry 2 (2.15")

    Now it's time to find some 26" Geax Saguaros...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdub
    A tip you'd like to share?

    Kenda's website

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    Yeah, but they're out of the 2.6...

    Quote Originally Posted by Whyteboy
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    And now have a $100 minimum order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daveM
    And now have a $100 minimum order.

    Good ride today!!
    That was a good ride today!!! Hopefully tomorrow as well.

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    Another vote for the Betty's. I had just ordered a set of these this week after seeing how nice they looked on Renny's RFX and took my first ride on them today.. Very impressed, they have the nice grippy feel of a high volume tire but still move quick when turning the cranks.. Only one ride and I have a new favorite tire. The old WTB's are getting added to the 3 foot stack of neglected rubber sitting in the garage.

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    Which WTB's were you using before? They (moto/ mutano/ weirwolf lt's) are my favorite trail tires, but I'd be up for experimenting, so long as they're not too spendy. What are a good price for the Betty's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daveM
    And now have a $100 minimum order.

    Good ride today!!

    They were there about a week after you told me about em, then they were gone

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    Good thing that you didn't get any...

    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    They were there about a week after you told me about em, then they were gone
    Err, tires that is. Betty would be jealous!

    I gotta try some of those, they look nice! Those Bettys are bumpy in all the right places!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbabuser
    Which WTB's were you using before? They (moto/ mutano/ weirwolf lt's) are my favorite trail tires, but I'd be up for experimenting, so long as they're not too spendy. What are a good price for the Betty's?
    The last set were 2.4 Motoraptors. I had switched to these after shredding the sidewalls on a set of Maxxis ADvantage on their third ride. The Motos are a good all around tire but they never really had a high volume feel to me and would washout easier on larger drops.. So far the Betty's seem to be much better at covering for my poor technique.

    These did run twice as much as the WTB's though.. I picked mine up at www.universalcycles.com and it ran me $50/tire for the Triple compound (ORC). I'd be interested if anyone knows a cheaper source.
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    Sorry I am late to this but man i love old school tires from Panaracer I had a pair if fire xc pro's but the Smoke and Dart is still the 2nd best next to my Klein tires.
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    My 2.1" Ignitors came today, and I had to do a double-take to make sure I didn't receive 1.95's by mistake. My similarly-marked Crossmarks and Larsen TT's are much wider. Needless to say, these are going to be exchanged for the 2.35" version.

    The 2.15" Michelin Dry 2's that I ordered, however, are a lot closer to their claimed width. The tread on those is really tight, so like the name implies, it'll be dry use only.
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    For Schwalbes in CO, call or email Larry at mtnhighcyclery.com. If calling, call after 2 PM since he works from home in the morning. His prices are good too. I got some Alberts from him and am waiting for the UST Big Betty.

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    Thanks, for the tip Flyer.. I'll definitely be ordering some spares. After getting another 3 rides in on them this week I'm hooked.

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    I'm betting Larry will be at the swap tomorrow, and he usually sports tires.

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    I can't find the UST's listed anywhere

    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer
    For Schwalbes in CO, call or email Larry at mtnhighcyclery.com. If calling, call after 2 PM since he works from home in the morning. His prices are good too. I got some Alberts from him and am waiting for the UST Big Betty.

    When will they be available ?

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