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    Good job! Steamboat Springs trails?

    I need help finding a MTB trail map of the MTN.The one on there site does not show a lot detail . I was thinking of going to SB for july 4 weekend since we have done WP for the last 3 years. I have done the I70 traffic the first year and learned to come back through RMNP ever since then.

    Has Anyone road the MTN? I would love the input or Pic's

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    Dude, you're in for a treat on the 4th. Book early tho.
    As for the trails ON the mountain, wait till you get there and just go grab a map from the mountain. But for a preview, EVERYTHING is a HUGE climb, at least till you get up past mid mountain. It's primarily based in XC riding, tho you have Fish Creek. From rumors of my buddies, they've bermed up everything on lower mountain. Ping Marko, he'll hook you up w/ details.
    Truth be told, if you make it up there the mountain would be the last place I'd go ride...too many bodies. Try North or South Routt instead. Grab one of those Singletrack books and enjoy!

    Edit: the fireworks alone have been worthy of the trip. Hell, I might try to make it up there for the 4th too (if me bud doesn't sell his house by then).
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    I was there for the 4th last summer. I agree with Pau11ly--ride somewhere other than the resort. I did a huge loop involving singletrack and dirt roads. I rode up to Buffalo Pass and came down Fish Creek or Fish Falls or whatever it's called. There were several useful maps available at REI.

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    The online maps may not show details 'cause ther isn't that much to show. Two ways down from the top of the gondola, and a couple of nice trails above the gondola is all we have. The best riding is off the mountain. come on up for the fourth, goto any of teh local shops, Orange Peel on Yampa is my choice, and get some local info on the emerald trails, or the other great trails in and around our little town and enjoy. If you have any more specific questions, post 'em, I'll do my best to give you the answers.

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    Thanks Guys. I can't wait till summer for sure. I was looking at the easy trails because my wife would love to ride down as well but on some really easy trails. She has only rode her new TREK around here on pavement so i want to take her somewhere she can go up and ride at her on pace down.

    I was told SB had some great fireworks on the 4th. They do a great job in WP but i want something new.
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    Don't forget about Howelson. Its loads of fun, was lucky enough to live within a 5 minute bike ride of Howelson all summer. Can't wait to go back and visit again this summer.

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    I did "shuttles" in SB for 3 days. Rabbit ears to Fish Creek Falls (fun and tech) Near the bottom expect a good number of people. Rabbit ears to the ski resort, more climbing than on Fish Creek falls, but the burms that they put up last year were a hoot. I also did a Scotts run trail ride, great fun, and no bugs in the fall. There is also a fun trail across the road from Scotts, but I don't remember the name, not very long and has some good views.

    I think the ski resort got approved for more trails to be built so that is pretty exciting.
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    Try hitting the S side of Howl Hill. It's pretty flat for you beginner rider wife.
    The other trail is Spring Creek, till it starts to climb. If she's game, Spring Creek will take you up to Buff Pass...nice up, mellow down.
    One thing about the mountain, don't pass up a shorty run on Creek Side...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EricTheRed
    I did "shuttles" in SB for 3 days. Rabbit ears to Fish Creek Falls (fun and tech) Near the bottom expect a good number of people. Rabbit ears to the ski resort, more climbing than on Fish Creek falls, but the burms that they put up last year were a hoot. I also did a Scotts run trail ride, great fun, and no bugs in the fall. There is also a fun trail across the road from Scotts, but I don't remember the name, not very long and has some good views.

    I think the ski resort got approved for more trails to be built so that is pretty exciting.
    Didn't you promise us some trip reports from your rides? I'm still waiting....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkoInTheBoat
    Didn't you promise us some trip reports from your rides? I'm still waiting....
    I did, but I've been lazy. I think it took me 3 months to post up my Salida/ Monarch Crest pics. I donn't want to out do my self.
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    Me too!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Klein_Christopher
    I need help finding a MTB trail map of the MTN.The one on there site does not show a lot detail . I was thinking of going to SB for july 4 weekend since we have done WP for the last 3 years. I have done the I70 traffic the first year and learned to come back through RMNP ever since then.

    Has Anyone road the MTN? I would love the input or Pic's

    Thanks
    Not to high-jack your thread K-C. I just found out that I will be up there for a family reunion Fri. through Mon. I was hoping to rent a XT level FS-AM/XC bike and ride Sat. or Sun. morning that I am in town. Orange Peel looks like a cool shop, but shop recommendations are welcome. We will be flying into Denver and staying with friends Thurs. I plan to do the Moots factory tour on Friday morning if you guys think it's worth the trip. I would be up for a local ride as long as the CAT-1's stay home. As far as skill level, I can hold my own, but I know the altitude is going to kick my butt. I will have a rental car, but would prefer to ride to the trails if it is not out of the way. I will be staying at the Lodge at Steamboat Springs if that helps with navigation.

    Tell me more about the I70 traffic, please.

    Thanks in advance,
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    "Tell me more about the I70 traffic, please."

    When too many front ranges try to go home at the same time the road gets blocked and it's like a parking lot. Mostly a problem going into the mountains on friday evening, and returning to the plains on sunday afternoon.

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    Worse than I85 in Atlanta?

    Quote Originally Posted by sbsbiker
    "Tell me more about the I70 traffic, please."

    When too many front ranges try to go home at the same time the road gets blocked and it's like a parking lot. Mostly a problem going into the mountains on friday evening, and returning to the plains on sunday afternoon.
    Thanks for the info. I had a feeling that was what you were referring to. I plan to be driving Thurs. night/Fri. morning and back on Mon. evening/ Tues. morning. I should be OK with the traffic, I hope.

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    You do realise that we are still covered with snow, and the only riding is on the roads? Check in with the boys at Orange Peel for demo road bikes, and we have a group ride sunday at noon from the OP. Oh, The ski area has great "spring" conditions.

    Watch the drive through Kremmling, It's an old fashion speed trap town, no tolerance, and a cop at the entrance/exit waiting to bust anyone going over the sped limit. Another popular place for the CSP is the downhill of rabbit ears, Speed limit is 50mph, and the CSP will be waiting. Everywhere else it's road rally rules, stay on the road and watch out for deer.

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    I should have been more clear sbs...

    Quote Originally Posted by sbsbiker
    You do realise that we are still covered with snow, and the only riding is on the roads? Check in with the boys at Orange Peel for demo road bikes, and we have a group ride sunday at noon from the OP. Oh, The ski area has great "spring" conditions.

    Watch the drive through Kremmling, It's an old fashion speed trap town, no tolerance, and a cop at the entrance/exit waiting to bust anyone going over the sped limit. Another popular place for the CSP is the downhill of rabbit ears, Speed limit is 50mph, and the CSP will be waiting. Everywhere else it's road rally rules, stay on the road and watch out for deer.
    I was tagging onto the OP's post. I will be there July 4th weekend Friday-Monday. But thanks for the road riding info. I do that too. However, I much prefer mtb and if I only get one ride, I'd like it to be off-road.

    Thanks again for the info.
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    Pau11y or sbsbiker,

    If I am staying at Trailhead Lodge. What singletrack is closest to that? I heard in this thread and a another one that Spring Creek is good. I will have about 2-3 hours Friday morning July 2nd to do a morning ride. I hope to get a rental that morning. Is that doable?

    Feel free to PM me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willie b
    If I am staying at Trailhead Lodge. What singletrack is closest to that? I heard in this thread and a another one that Spring Creek is good. I will have about 2-3 hours Friday morning July 2nd to do a morning ride. I hope to get a rental that morning. Is that doable?

    Feel free to PM me.

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    Where's Trailhead Lodge? Can you give a general area...ski area, downtown (cross streets), etc. Places have been changing a lot up there. Howelsen Hill trails are good to hit from downtown. Ski area's a no-brainer (climb T-Head up Yahoo or Valley View but try not to miss Creekside on the way down).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y
    Where's Trailhead Lodge? Can you give a general area...ski area, downtown (cross streets), etc. Places have been changing a lot up there. Howelsen Hill trails are good to hit from downtown. Ski area's a no-brainer (climb T-Head up Yahoo or Valley View but try not to miss Creekside on the way down).

    1175 Bangtail Way.
    Steamboat Springs, CO 80487

    Looks like I can always just go to the resort and rent and roll. Seriously any ride will be great, but I prefer singletrack over fire road. I do not have a map, and I hope that the resort could provide one.

    Thanks in advance,
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    Quote Originally Posted by willie b
    1175 Bangtail Way.
    Steamboat Springs, CO 80487

    Looks like I can always just go to the resort and rent and roll. Seriously any ride will be great, but I prefer singletrack over fire road. I do not have a map, and I hope that the resort could provide one.

    Thanks in advance,
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    Willie B? I think I've ridden w/ you and El Jefe up on Howelsen. You own a Nomad, dressed to kill w/ King?

    That address is a new condo at the Meadows parking lot and the tennis bubble. The resort is a good ride and closest. You can go across US40 and hit Tree Haus to get over to Howelsen. Go up into Tree Haus - Mt Werner Rd under US40 and con't into Tree Haus. X the railroad tracks and straight thru the River Road intersection. Take left at T and hard right (hair pin) at the next Y. Climb till next hair pin and look for the trailhead that'll take you to the transmission line right-or-way. Climb the ROW (150 yrd) till you see the Tree Haus/Howelsen cutover. Head over to H-Hill and go nuts! There's talk from my buddy of another trail, heading north/west off the ATC (not the radio) tower. Heading up for 4th as well and looking fwd to hitting this trail
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y
    Willie B? I think I've ridden w/ you and El Jefe up on Howelsen. You own a Nomad, dressed to kill w/ King?
    Nope, not me. Though I am a snappy dresser. I've only been to SteamBoat in Winter for snowboarding and skiing thus far. This will be my third time in Colorado for biking, I usually hit Summit Co. or Durango. I've heard great things about SB, so I am really looking forward to it. Thanks for all of your help. If you guys happen to be free Friday morning PM me, I will probably be out there for 3-4 hours. That is as long as you don't mind waiting for a "sea-level" rider. I remember the altitude killed me in Keystone.

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    thread dredge, going to Steamboat this weekend

    Hi all,

    Fiance' and I are going to Steamboat Springs this weekend. Will take our 4" duallies, and would like to find 4 days worth of decent moderate XC type riding. Leaving early Friday morning, returning Monday night.

    Examples of trails we enjoy on the Front Range: Buff Creek, Sourdough (south end), Heil/Picture Rock.

    We're not afraid of climbing and do most of the Winter Park series, but stuff that's really rocky/tech and steep makes it not as much fun.

    Suggestions?

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    Friday afternoon; ride Emerald mt, start at the downtown ski area and go up to the Quarry and then get onto the orton lands and keep turning left till you are ready to go down
    Sat; Get an eary start and ride Mt Werner, depending on how much you want to climb the top can be reached in less than an hour (if you are super fast) it takes me 1:10. Mt View leads off the backside to the Divide and is great at the four way turn north to Buff pass, or south to Rabbit ears or get a shuttle to the top of Rabbit ears to recreate the Livestrong ride (PM me for shulttle details)
    Sunday; Take a short drive to Seedhouse road, and hit Coulton Creek, to Scott's run to Diamond Park, Divide trail back to seedhouse then try the South Fork trail(Burn Ridge) back to car watch out for logging operations on Burn ridge.
    Monday; Hot springs Mad Creek, Red dirt ride from town and take in all the trails just north of town or Spring creek can be a shorter option if you have to get back to the downhill traffic jam into denver.

    If you have time to spare, the Steamboat Springs Stage Race is happening all weekend with four stages of road racing, TT friday, Circut Sat, RR sun, and Crit monday. come out to watch or we are still looking for course marshalls.

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    Excellent advice.

    sbs gives good advice.

    I ended up riding Emerald and Howelson on one day then did the resort on the second day. If you need any bike related items check out Orange Peel. They are a very friendly and knowledgable shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbsbiker
    Friday afternoon; ride Emerald mt, start at the downtown ski area and go up to the Quarry and then get onto the orton lands and keep turning left till you are ready to go down
    Sat; Get an eary start and ride Mt Werner, depending on how much you want to climb the top can be reached in less than an hour (if you are super fast) it takes me 1:10. Mt View leads off the backside to the Divide and is great at the four way turn north to Buff pass, or south to Rabbit ears or get a shuttle to the top of Rabbit ears to recreate the Livestrong ride (PM me for shulttle details)
    Sunday; Take a short drive to Seedhouse road, and hit Coulton Creek, to Scott's run to Diamond Park, Divide trail back to seedhouse then try the South Fork trail(Burn Ridge) back to car watch out for logging operations on Burn ridge.
    Monday; Hot springs Mad Creek, Red dirt ride from town and take in all the trails just north of town or Spring creek can be a shorter option if you have to get back to the downhill traffic jam into denver.
    hi sbs, and thanks, this is great!!
    If you have time to spare, the Steamboat Springs Stage Race is happening all weekend with four stages of road racing, TT friday, Circut Sat, RR sun, and Crit monday. come out to watch or we are still looking for course marshalls.
    We're actually going up with our teammates who are all doing SSSR. We both elected not to do it this year and take the MTBs instead to ride trails and do team support. We are both fighting back from being sick and/or injured for six months straight, besides which I won the lanterne rouge in the women's race last year and the novelty's kinda worn off if you know what I'm saying. Maybe next year if I'm racing I will do what I can to help you guys "sponsor" a women's 3/35+ field (maybe run concurrent with the older Masters' men or something), because trust me racing 4 days straight with the pro girls when you're both old and mediocre kind of sucks, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbsbiker
    Sunday; Take a short drive to Seedhouse road, and hit Coulton Creek, to Scott's run to Diamond Park, Divide trail back to seedhouse then try the South Fork trail(Burn Ridge) back to car watch out for logging operations on Burn ridge.
    What he said, but park at Diamond Park trailhead by Seedhouse campground and do the loop counterclockwise. Throw in an out-n-back on Pearl lake trail instead of south fork.

    The logging operation is active between Seedhouse campground and the Burn Ridge trailhead so you definitely can not get to the South Fork trail from seedhouse.

    Also, as far as I understand there is a temporary closure on the entire South Fork trail and it is illegal to be in the area on foot or bike until October 30th.

    The HPBE ranger district has a closure hotline set up with current road and trail info. 970-870-2140
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    Great to hear your team is comming, we have about 350 riders for this years event, and are excited to have some top notch racers in attendance. Jennie Longo is racing this year, so the women's field is really stacked with talent, and huge!. The men's pro field has a couple of Garmin racers, as well as united healthcare, and maybe a protour rider from Europe ect.. The cat3 field almost filled up with 60+riders! and the other fields are posting good numbers as well, no ten rider fields= great competition.
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    If you are really not afraid of climbing, on sat you can ride Spring creek up to dry lake, then take buffalo pass road to the divide trail ride south to the "four way" then turn down fish creek falls till you reach mt view then climb all the way to the top of mt werner and drop back into town on ski area trails. That'll give you roughly 2.5 hours of climbing in a 4 hour ride. or save that ride for monday as it'll be hard to support your team if you are off in the woods for half the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbsbiker
    If you are really not afraid of climbing, on sat you can ride Spring creek up to dry lake, then take buffalo pass road to the divide trail ride south to the "four way" then turn down fish creek falls till you reach mt view then climb all the way to the top of mt werner and drop back into town on ski area trails. That'll give you roughly 2.5 hours of climbing in a 4 hour ride. or save that ride for monday as it'll be hard to support your team if you are off in the woods for half the day.
    We just did this last Friday when out there....awesome ride didn't see anyone from Buffalo Pass all the way until we hit the Gondola....took us way longer than 4 hours. Totals were 45 miles with 6,300 feet of climbing.

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    Steamboat was amazing, we are definitely riding up there again when we get the chance.

    Emerald Mtn is the best singletrack I've seen since I got to Colorado. Well-maintained, fun, swoopy trails with enough amplitude for anyone. We rode a bunch of it on Friday, would love to see more of it. Planned to do more on Monday but were too beat from Sunday's ride to do anything but wander around the SSSR criterium taking photos.

    Saturday we also got roped into shooting pictures for the team out at the circuit race on Marabou, so instead of going up to Seedhouse, we wound up poaching all the ranch singletrack up on Marabou that we could find while we were going back and forth across the circuit finding photo ops. Rode for about 2 hours total and had a boatload of fun. That's a beautiful trail network. I guess owing to the fact it's a gated community they don't get much activity on the trails; too bad since they might lose them altogether soon if they don't see more use. A lot of them are super overgrown, and I found at least 2 that were clearly marked with signs, but so faint that they run out into mowed meadows and completely vanish.

    Quote Originally Posted by sbsbiker
    If you are really not afraid of climbing, on sat you can ride Spring creek up to dry lake, then take buffalo pass road to the divide trail ride south to the "four way" then turn down fish creek falls till you reach mt view then climb all the way to the top of mt werner and drop back into town on ski area trails. That'll give you roughly 2.5 hours of climbing in a 4 hour ride. or save that ride for monday as it'll be hard to support your team if you are off in the woods for half the day.
    we did this one on Sunday as they said they already had help in the feedzone for the guys. holy mother of god that was an epic, epic ride!

    took us 7 hours total round trip but we stopped a lot. It was absolutely freezing with howling wind up at the top before we hit the divide trail but once we got into the woods all was well. I basically wanted to kill myself about halfway up Buffalo Pass and my fiance wanted to kill himself about halfway up Mt. Werner but the singletrack on top as well as the freefall back to the condo was all well worth it. Will definitely go do the singletrack portion of this one again.

    I am glad I heeded steadyflow's advice and insisted we take extra food and water, because while we're not super duper fast, we are both pretty solid bike racers, and I figured anything approaching a 6 hour ride would put us into solid bonk territory if we weren't careful. sbsbiker, I dunno who you are, but if you habitually do this ride in 4 hours then you are a freaking stud.

    Tip for anyone else who reads this thread: If we do this ride again, and we probably will, we would definitely skip the Spring Creek section, or maybe save it for a hike day with non cycling friends. It's a really pretty piece of trail, but it's also pretty narrow and crowded, and the downhill traffic can be super sketchy. The whole thing is packed a couple inches deep in 3/4" driveway gravel. I'm sure that's critical for erosion control but it just doesn't work so great for riding on, particularly stopping.

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    sbsbiker, I dunno who you are, but if you habitually do this ride in 4 hours then you are a freaking stud.

    Thanks I guess my 2nd place at the Brek Epic wasn't a fluke afterall, I do this ride in 4:30.

    Thanks for coming to the SSSR, and take note that the Orton's are attempting to sell the Emerald mt trails to the city, If you get a chance e-mail the city and tell them to buy this property and make it public.

    Link to the pilot story;
    http://www.steamboatpilot.com/news/2...-emerald-sale/

    If you want to race the mtbike trails at Maribou, our Town Challenge uses their network for our first race. Look for the schedule in the spring and come back up.

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