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    Squaw Pass Hwy 103


    It’s time to gps and clean up the trails on Squaw Pass. Thought if you could find the trails some of you might like to ride them. Sorry PBR no smooth single track. Started with Barbour Fork loop last week. The Barbour Fork side was in good shape. A little rocky but that’s normal. Doesn’t look like anyone has ridden the trails I cleaned up on Van Eden a few years back .Here is a gps track and some photos if you want to check it out. I removed what trees I could the rest will require a saw. The trail isn’t visible in a few places. It’s a pretty good ride if you do it from town and include the Waterline.

    These trails could see more use.


    This weekend we are going to shuttle Devils Canyon. I’ve been wanting to see this on a map for a while now. will update map when I add new trail/ride
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    Is there single-track in the Devils Canyon section? And does it link up with Barbour Fork?

    I did some exploring in the Barbour Fork area last year, but lost the trail at some point and ended up on the 4x4 trails (which suck on a mtb).

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    Quote Originally Posted by big galoot

    Itís time to gps and clean up the trails on Squaw Pass. Thought if you could find the trails some of you might like to ride them. Sorry PBR no smooth single track. Started with Barbour Fork loop last week. The Barbour Fork side was in good shape. A little rocky but thatís normal. Doesnít look like anyone has ridden the trails I cleaned up on Van Eden a few years back .Here is a gps track and some

    I think we've connected some of the trails that you're talking about. I've been down warren to the VE cutoff, then over to Barbour forks, those trails could definitely use more traffic to burn in better.

    I'm gonna start building at my house, just let me know when you want to come over & take a few pictures

    I'll gladly help with any local trail work btw, just shoot me a PM.
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    How about we take the "let it burn approach" with the rotting cesspool of the Denver metro?

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    Have fun riding! see ya out there soon!

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    Some good riding in Barbour Forks for sure! I dig it all the 4x4 roads, the singletrack, and the constant orienteering opportunities.

    Trail # 45 in Barbour Forks

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    Man I should get out there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by topmounter
    Is there single-track in the Devils Canyon section? And does it link up with Barbour Fork?

    I did some exploring in the Barbour Fork area last year, but lost the trail at some point and ended up on the 4x4 trails (which suck on a mtb).

    Yep Barbour fork is a tough place to ride and there is more singletrack to be found. The trail in the bottom of Devils Canyon crosses the creek about 10 times and you have to hike out. It takes off of the luge and comes back out at the top of trail 48.
    I havenít been down it in years. I was thinking about cleaning it up again. Itís a good option for the shuttle.

    IMO there are 3 good rides at Barbour Fork the shuttle, the loop , and the luge.
    Hopefully with a map you all can find the trails.
    If your'e going to ride up it's easier from the Van Eden side. I think.

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    Beaver Brook Loop

    Just updated the map. Added Beaver Brook loop. This is turning into one of my favorite training rides. It has a little bit of everything. A good climb up Little Bear to Mountain View. A nice downhill run thatís as much fun as you can have on two wheels. A scary downhill run on a loose gravel road. Gotta try and break the 50 mph barrier on Floyd hill.60? You can start from Floyd Hill or Hwy 103 to save some driving.
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    Devils Canyon

    This is nostalgic a ride for me. Lots of memories. There is a little uphill and some hike-a-bike. A classic point to point with lots of options. Have ridden it as a loop by riding up Warren Gulch. Much better than riding up 103 from I.S. gps track--- photos

    Elevation Gain:347 ft
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    Min Elevation: 7,558 ft
    Max Elevation: 10,962 ft


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    Hicks Mountain

    Is there still gold in them hills? First read about this in a Colorado recreation guide from the 1970ís I have searched quartz veins from Bergen Peak to Hicks Mountain. I Still think about it when I ride here. I was kind of disheartened when a good friend of mine told me sometimes miners made up these kind of stories when they had high-graded from the mines , but I still look.
    Lost Treasure

    ď1. Hicks Mountain. An 18 inch wide vein of rose quartz, full of course gold, was discovered -then lost-on the south slope of Hicks Mountain on a branch of Witter Gulch or the next one coming into Bear Creek below Witter.

    This old road is a good beginner ride. Smooth and kind of steep towards the end. Can be linked up with Beaver Brook
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    Very nice, thanks for taking the time to make such a great map big g.

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    Agreed! Thanks for the nice map!

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    very cool! What do the different colors (purple, red, yellow) mean? What's the distance on some of these loops? I've heard some areas up there can stay surprisingly clear of snow into late in the year. I guess that's mainly the south facing gilson gulch area?

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    Post one links to the Barbour loop GPS track, which is around 7 miles, to give you a rough idea of how long those other tracks are by comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ansible
    very cool! What do the different colors (purple, red, yellow) mean? What's the distance on some of these loops? I've heard some areas up there can stay surprisingly clear of snow into late in the year. I guess that's mainly the south facing gilson gulch area?
    Red is recommended DH
    Yellow is recommended XC

    Rode Virginia Canyon the other day -to the county line and back down Gilson Gulch. Not much snow anywhere. Hard to believe they have had 11 feet of snow this season already at the divide.
    http://highonthedivide.blogspot.com/...blog-post.html

    Clear Creek is the perfect place for some A.M. powder and some P.M. DH. Double shuttle anyone?

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    did barbour fork loop yesterday. what a great area. i followed gps track but lost the trail on the final single track leading back to parking lot. i think i lost it just before the point where it sharply turns right. so i backtracked a little and noticed fork in single track that i didnt see first time. i took left this time and after short steep and loose downhill it took me to 4x4 road that took me down back to parking lot. anyways, thanks for the tip. will be back to do longer loop including devils canyon singletrack.

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    An Aside - You could even add 103 heading East from intersection of Lil Bear Rd to the 2nd intersection of Old Squaw Pass Rd as a DH section. Rode that on the fully with shock and fork wide open after a trip up to the Squaw Mtn Fire Lookout. The patch work performed on that road by Clear Creek totally sux eggs on a road bike, but on a fully it's totally ride able without having to cross the center line to avoid the road damage and patch work.

    BTW - love the map - I've been lost up in those parts a number of times. Looking forward to getting up there soon (Saturday) and discovering where previous rides went wrong.
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    Hook this up with the secret stash to the SW and you have a prophetic moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calzonical View Post
    BTW - love the map - I've been lost up in those parts a number of times. Looking forward to getting up there soon (Saturday) and discovering where previous rides went wrong.
    Thanks.

    Here is the latest version of the map. I think it is almost complete. I only see a couple things that are not on it. It is pretty much the same as the Idaho Springs South Bike Trails map in the Treker on page 40 and 41.

    I still havenít found out who is carrying the Treker. I got the last copy from the visitors center. The lady said she was handing them out left and right. When I find out I will let you know.


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    Is there a frontage road/trail along the south side of hwy103 starting somewhere near Echo hills and ending just past Echo Mtn Ski area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenboy View Post
    Is there a frontage road/trail along the south side of hwy103 starting somewhere near Echo hills and ending just past Echo Mtn Ski area?

    there's a number of spider-webbed back roads I take to get from top of Beaver Brook watershed over to Sawmill rd. Then drop down 103 about 1/4 mile and hit up the powerline road on the north side of 103 and head up past the gun range over to Echo mtn and WG

    Recalling route from memory - drop into beaver brook watershed and pop out at either mountain view (go south from here) or lil bear road (go north from here). lil bear road (about a mile from 103) - to evergreen trail then on to deer trail to long road over to sawmill and up to 103. deer trail and long road are a grunt, at least for me.

    you could also take timberline over to deer trail - that is a bit more direct the ET to Deer trail.
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    So...

    So I've been riding up in the Idaho Springs (IS) area this summer and have now ridden much of what is being discussed here.

    So before I say anything else, BigGaloot and others doing work up in this area...great job. Thank you all. Your efforts are appreciated and that's a lot of trail for a few guys to try and work on.

    The trails we are talking about in this thread have their merits...solitary, shaded, some great climbing (and/or decending) but overall the word that comes to mind is...potential. They lack any real "features" and have mediocre flow. They are a little "meh" but again, the potential is there.

    So all I want to add is that I wish IMBA or others would/could have the opportunity do an epic up there. It would be awesome and great I would think for IS as well. I mean geez, if they can do it all the way out in Wyoming why not put that kind of effort into a place a bit closer to a major metropolis...some place like IS that is ripe for it? IS is not really "on the map" as far as destination MTB spots but that could change. Of course I'm thinking something like ah (not to stir this pot again) the stuff over on the "other side of the road." Yep, I found that but too late. I know the buzz around it all and I know it's a no-no...and I understand. I'm just wishing out loud here that something like that could be build legally in IS. Just saying...the potential is there.

    Now of course, depending on who you talk to, they may like it just as it is and would possibly even fight to keep something like what I'm describing out...not sure on the current political climate up there concerning such "high-profile" efforts (yep, it would bring more people up there...good and bad). But hey, some towns legalize gambling to boost revenue so a few well built MTB trails might not be so bad...
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    Oh, and I did see that potential MTB at Echo Mtn Ski Resort thread. Would be cool but didn't sound too probable.
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    I've been riding in Beaver Brook for a long time. Potential is the perfect descriptor. I love it as a backyard ride, but its IMO not really worth driving to as it is. A trail network based on the existing fire roads could really make it a great mtb area. Anybody know how to get from the lake to Sante Fe mtn? When I use google earth it looks like there is a road/trail for the gas line but I havent been able to make it work on the ground.

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    Good job!

    I have been loving riding the Barbour Forks area this year and last, and after ~6-10 rides, the area is still a mystery.

    Big Galoot, thanks for your mapping work. I have been tracking all that's been said, and finally picked it up today. The plan is working, stopped at Tommyknocker after my ride and spent a few buck.

    They give a link to the map online in The Treker which can be found here:
    (It won't let me post it, I'm a noob!)

    (tripleW)(dot)co(dot)clear-creek(dot)co(dot)us(slash)documentcenter(slash)hom e(slash)view(slash)2328

    It's pretty shiny, if you can get to it!

    I took the GoPro out today and am uploading a portion of the video, maybe someone can help me figure out where I was. The thunder was ominous, but the top of the hill was the sunniest spot, so I pedaled on. It cleared up a bit, and just rained for a bit. Dirt was basically best ever. It's processing but the link will be here:

    youtu(dot)be(slash)052q8C9uIds

    My goal was to find the intersection of Barbour Forks and Devil's Canyon, and ride the whole Trail 48 down the canyon on the current Trails Illustrated and do the hike-a-bike out. On Devils Canyon Tr heading west, I passed the powerlines, and climbed the hill just after, but missed the turn apparently. I won't as of yet say where I did drop, but I came out of some drainage right where you have to climb/hike out the canyon to get back to Barbour. Anybody know where the drop-in for the top of Barbour Fork trail is?

    And how about a little clean up on the single track to the parking lot? Can "we" remove some of the trees? The flow will be sooo sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueallah View Post
    ...Anybody know how to get from the lake to Sante Fe mtn? When I use google earth it looks like there is a road/trail for the gas line but I havent been able to make it work on the ground.

    EdE and I tackled this challenge back in 2007 - attached is our gpx. The route may not be the preferred way but we did make it to the top of Santa Fe after an exhausting Hike-a-bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenboy View Post
    Is there a frontage road/trail along the south side of hwy103 starting somewhere near Echo hills and ending just past Echo Mtn Ski area?
    Part of the Old Squaw Pass Road starts just west of Little Bear and is south of hwy 103. It is about 3 miles in length and ends a little ways past Warren Gulch. I think it is also called Arapaho Springs. There are 3-4 access points off of hwy 103. The Chief Mountain trail ( this is the continuation of the Warren Gulch Trail # 47)is listed as hiker horse only. I need to see if this applies to the short section of trail between the two roads.
    I donít think there is a connection on the south between Little Bear and Echo Hills. There is a trail that leads from near Little Bear to the top of Mt. Judge, but I havenít found a way to connect with the Hicks Mountain Trail.
    You could always drop into the watershed from Echo Hills and ride up to Little Bear then hook up with the old road.
    Floyd Hill is another good place to start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueallah View Post
    i've been riding in beaver brook for a long time. Potential is the perfect descriptor. I love it as a backyard ride, but its imo not really worth driving to as it is. A trail network based on the existing fire roads could really make it a great mtb area. Anybody know how to get from the lake to sante fe mtn? When i use google earth it looks like there is a road/trail for the gas line but i havent been able to make it work on the ground.
    The trail is there but about 1/3 of a mile of itís so overgrown that I can hardly walk through it. I donít know how calzonical got his bicycle up that trail. I have skirted either side and explored the logging roads in the area looking for an alternative route but canít find one. So I think it just needs trimmed back a bit.

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    The Treker Summer 2012

    I couldn't get the link on the map to work I was able to find it online through the publisher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GL1 View Post

    So all I want to add is that I wish IMBA or others would/could have the opportunity do an epic up there. It would be awesome and great I would think for IS as well. I mean geez, if they can do it all the way out in Wyoming why not put that kind of effort into a place a bit closer to a major metropolis...some place like IS that is ripe for it? IS is not really "on the map" as far as destination MTB spots but that could change. Of course I'm thinking something like ah (not to stir this pot again) the stuff over on the "other side of the road." Yep, I found that but too late. I know the buzz around it all and I know it's a no-no...and I understand. I'm just wishing out loud here that something like that could be build legally in IS. Just saying...the potential is there.
    There are a few ways to approach this, but there is a little history here too.

    I'll say that some individuals with an organization wouldn't work with local builder and rider input. When Idaho Springs Council asked for a concise proposal, it was all over the place and we (the bikers) appeared to look unorganized with bickering. Idaho told everyone to go work together to make this happen. Needless to say, it never did. Which is sad, because we could've had a great place.

    You can do something though. As opposed to thinking 'they should', you should approach it as "I can". Be the 'they', garner local support, meet the local riders, builders and make sure they are involved.

    Working with the governing agencies is difficult, this is why some don't want to deal with it and build on private land.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big galoot View Post
    Part of the Old Squaw Pass Road starts just west of Little Bear and is south of hwy 103. It is about 3 miles in length and ends a little ways past Warren Gulch.
    Floyd Hill is another good place to start.
    Thanks for the confirmation BigGaloot and Calzonical.

    I could see the old road on satellite maps but nothing on 'paper' and am trying to keep to the dirt / bike path as much as possible. I ususally ride up Beaver Brook road, through Pat creek, take the trail up to Lost Trail Road/Mounatin View Drive. After climbing out up the zigzagging roads like Sawmill and Long, I would take 103 over to Warren Gulch , etc. (Yes Calzonical they are a 'grunt', Your rep proceeds you so I appreciate that they humble you too). So, thanks for the skinny on the fat tire trails.

    Now, how do I avoid riding up hwy40 from Kermits to the top of Floyd Hill? And on the other side of the hill - how about connecting County Road 65 to Clear Creek High school without going up 40?

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    Quote Originally Posted by big galoot View Post
    The trail is there but about 1/3 of a mile of itís so overgrown that I can hardly walk through it. I donít know how calzonical got his bicycle up that trail...
    Here's a clue
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    Good Luck

    Quote Originally Posted by goldenboy View Post
    Now, how do I avoid riding up hwy40 from Kermits to the top of Floyd Hill? And on the other side of the hill - how about connecting County Road 65 to Clear Creek High school without going up 40?
    Another connection I have been trying to figure out for years. There are a couple possibilities.
    The old road up Sawmill Gulch goes to an old cabin. From there you can see the road above . itís a steep climb. Sawmill Gulch is at the top of the last hill on the bike path before Kermits if you are coming from I.S. I think the old gate is still there. Really neat canyon havenít been there in years.

    At the bottom of the hill towards Kermits there is another trail or old service road that leads to the Power lines just below the road. Look for it on the right when you come out of the willows on the bike path.

    Neither are very feasible returning via Santa Fe Mountain might be another option.


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    thanks for the maps

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    Anyone know what the dashed trail East of Gilson Gulch on Big Galoot's map is like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cocavaak View Post
    anyone know what the dashed trail east of gilson gulch on big galoot's map is like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaycastlerock View Post
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    he said east

    Quote Originally Posted by cocavaak View Post
    Anyone know what the dashed trail East of Gilson Gulch on Big Galoot's map is like?
    Itís the service road for the Central City water line. Starts at Hidden Valley (C.C PKY and I-70) it runs through Bob Youngís property and is private. I was just there today. There are several roads that are on all the maps that I wanted to get tracks for. I seriously doubt we will get to ride any of that stuff.


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    road construction info

    The frontage road east of I.S. is closed to traffic they are trying to keep it open for bicyclists but will have to close it at times. They will provide a shuttle when it is closed.
    Here is a link for info:
    http://www.co.clear-creek.co.us/Docu...nter/View/2495

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    Santa Fe Mountain

    Went for a stroll the other evening.
    I know some of you are curious about this trail. I just donít know.
    Itís a chore to get up to the top from either direction and its going to be a bigger chore to clean it up. It might be worth it.

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    Found an old road that got me out of the thicket for awhile Thought it might go somewhere but it petered out and I had bushwhack my way to the top.

    looking back down


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    Sweet, Ive been workin up at Henderson for a couple weeks and wondering where the trails are. Thanks for postin a map BG, hopefully, I don't get to lost tryin to figure all this out. I'll probably be riding Tuesday and Wednesday evenings...

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    Sweet, Ive been workin up at Henderson for a couple weeks and wondering where the trails are. Thanks for postin a map BG, hopefully, I don't get to lost tryin to figure all this out. I'll probably be riding Tuesday and Wednesday evenings...I think I got a trekker at the bike shop in Gorgetown

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    A trail work day would make the Barbour fork trail easier to follow for sure. Good ride though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeckgx View Post
    A trail work day would make the Barbour fork trail easier to follow for sure. Good ride though!
    I use to rake the trail. Itís kind of pointless when the motorcycles tear the trail up. Itís signed as a nonmotorised and they still ride it. Some of the locals think they are grandfathered in or something.New signs would be nice as well but they just get shot to pieces.

    I noticed last week when I rode down from the top someone has marked all the turns with rock cairns. BTW there is a lot of blow down up high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndecentExposure View Post
    say that some individuals with an organization wouldn't work with local builder and rider input. When Idaho Springs Council asked for a concise proposal, it was all over the place and we (the bikers) appeared to look unorganized with bickering. Idaho told everyone to go work together to make this happen. Needless to say, it never did. Which is sad, because we could've had a great place.
    Le sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big galoot View Post
    I use to rake the trail. Itís kind of pointless when the motorcycles tear the trail up. Itís signed as a nonmotorised and they still ride it. Some of the locals think they are grandfathered in or something.New signs would be nice as well but they just get shot to pieces.

    I noticed last week when I rode down from the top someone has marked all the turns with rock cairns. BTW there is a lot of blow down up high.
    It's not just the motos that cause the scree in the trail. Runoff washes crap down into the singletrack -- rocks and pine needles and such. The motos don't help, but truthfully, the trail could use quite a bit of reconstruction, water bars and grading. When it rains hard, it just turns into a creek.
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    Did another lap at Barbour Fork/Van Eden today. I am looking to put together singletrack climbing to the top, so have been exploring intently. Started from the boy scout camp to the meadow above Van Eden, too steep. Will stick to the road up the center till the trail.

    As shown in the Trekker, I climbed 'Gatecrasher' till there was a single track option off to the left, eventually that landed me at the 'large rock' campsite, near the top of the low-angle single track traverse between the 4x4 roads. Climbing above that, and a bit before the junction of the the two 4x4 roads, there are slashes in two trees to the left, where you just dive into the woods, which I assume to be the access to "Upper Barbour Crk Trail 733.2a." From this "trail" I took all the lowest angle, most pedal-able options traversing east. I cleaned trees on the trail as I went and eventually made it to Cloudland Picnic Ground. I had scouted this area from the top before, but couldn't find anything. I am not sure how one would be able to find this trail without coming up it, as it has many spots where it disappears for a bit. The top of the trail is the small sign that says "closed to motor vehicles" just across the road from Cloudland. Head down and west from there. I set a few cairns, to help you get started in the right direction. It's now clear of all but the biggest deadfall, so pretty fast and nearly untouched trail. Good luck.

    While descending, I must have missed a turn, as I ended up at a junction that offers you to head left towards the "campsite rock" mentioned above, or a right, which goes down a fantastic trail towards Van Eden, which I had seen before but never done. It's very fast, follows an old trail cut down to two small ponds above Van Eden.

    So here's my theoretical pedal-able climb route:

    Barbour Forks trailhead -> road to trail 48-> Trail 48 to bottom of 'Luge' -> Road till top of "Luge" -> low angle traverse trail to 'campsite rock' on east 4x4 rd -> Upper Barbour Crk Trail to Cloudland -> Hwy 103 to Warrior, or Juniper, or just turn around.

    Thoughts? Any way to skip the 4x4 road section next to the Luge? And to clarify, the "Luge" ends at the meadow where Trail 48 drops into Devils Canyon, correct?

    Who's the trail boss out there? There's alot of work that's been done, and I think its riding great, can't wait to see what the Aspen's have in store in the next month.

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    i was there couple times this summer trying to find decent loop. also did climb from boy scout up to van eden meadow but felt like road to trail 48 is better option too. i took 48 all the way to the clearing with fire ring. from there, once i dropped to devils canyon but the climb back out was lots of hab. it is pretty down there but will not do it again. ended up back on clearing via single track that is hard to find going other direction so i placed two cairns there. not sure how would it be to climb this up, better option is probably connect to it after climbing 4x4 road from the clearing up.
    other time i was there from clearing with fire ring i took shortcut single track that connected with main center road (lots of shotgun shells there).little bit down the road and than climbed via barbour fork spur to van eden meadow and back to parking via single track.

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    seems like some there is some interest in the Barbour Fork area
    thought i would bump this thread and update it a bit

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