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    RIP Conti Vertical Pros- a great front range tire

    I just found out that Continental has ended production on the Vertical Pros. These things were great tires. Hardtail, full suspension, singlespeed, whatever- these things stuck to the trial like crazy. They made them forever- I used to ride a pair that had gum walls. I was pysched when they strated making a tubeless version a couple years ago.

    They were great around here and now I'm a tire free agent for the first time in years (a decade maybe?). Oh well, it could all be for the best in the end- the rear always wore out within 350 miles and were never on sale.

    Any suggestions for the next decade of wheel meat?

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    tires, tires, tires....love em

    As a general tire you can't go wrong with the Nevgals, it's a great all around tire. If your rims can support a bigger tire I am a proponent of wide tires. The 2.3 Nevgal is a great tire for the front range. I have a "thing" for tires, I've used many, many, MANY different kinds. I've always loved tires, tread patterns, etc. Personally I'm a huge fan of the Nobby Nics, get the new version with the Snake skin sidewalls. I just picked up a pair of 2.4 Fat Alberts but haven't put them to the test yet.

    Preference is everything, ride as many different kinds as you can, push them until they break loose. Good fun.

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    cudas

    There is only one " best " tire for around here . It 's the Hutchinson baracuda 2.3 tubeless. It's heavy but it will slay anything in it's way. The Hutch rubber is hands down the best . If you race you may not like the weight otherwise it's the best.

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    Maxxis Ignitor is pretty similar to your beloved Contis although like Porchsong sez those Nevgals are about as common as a rigid 29'r or a 575 around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R steve
    There is only one " best " tire for around here . It 's the Hutchinson baracuda 2.3 tubeless. It's heavy but it will slay anything in it's way. The Hutch rubber is hands down the best . If you race you may not like the weight otherwise it's the best.
    These were the first UST tires that I tried, and I found them to be "OK." I didn't care for the "dead zone" between the center and side knobs, but the rubber compound was pretty good though. They were definitely some of the easiest (UST) tires to mount. Didn't need tire levers, soap, or anything other than a floor pump to seat them.
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    I put a nevagal back on the rear after my ignitor was leaking and hated it. Got some stans and back to rocking the ignitor

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    They seem to be on sale at a few places on line. Buy a crapload. Thats what Im gonna do!
    I love Vert pros.(even if the sidewalls are kinda weak)
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    Like was said Nevegals are very good tyres, but if you use the StickE they roll like crap, but grip like madd. I don't ride a 26" wheeled bike anymore so tyre selection is a bit limited in 29", but I liked the Panaracer RAMPAGE as a rear tyre with a Nev up front while I was in CO. Very good RR for the amount of traction the Rampage gave. Also rode Ignitors on the FR and yes it's a very similar tyre tread to your Vert Pros, if you didn't look at the sidewalls you could easily mistake one for the other.
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    I'm glad to see that others have been using (and liking) the Hutchie 'Cudas. I was a little skeptical about them at first, but man, these tires have lasted waaaaaaaay longer than any other tubeless tire that I've tried. True, the "dead zone" does take a little getting used to, but these tires are by far the toughest that I've ridden so far.

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    I also road the verts for years. The Conti Mountain King 2.4s are a nice replacement, IMHO.

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    Funny, i thought the VP' were a good tire but a little hard for riding on rocks - particularly when wet. THey "buzzed" if you know what i mean. I've never ridden in your state, but it sure does look rocky. then again, it's dry...

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    +1 for the Mountain King 2.2...or 2.4. It's a good "do all" tire for riding all over CO and the West.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffkerkove/2826034696/" title="Conti Mountain King 2.2 Tubeless Tires by Jeff Kerkove, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3056/2826034696_c5068af61a.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Conti Mountain King 2.2 Tubeless Tires" /></a>

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    Tires are funny... I absolutely hate Vertical Pros. I have never crashed so many times as when I had VP on my bike. When the VP first came out, I bought a pair and went riding... I lost the front end and wiped out 4 times over the course of 3 rides. Took them off and tossed 'em in the dumpster. The only tire I hate more than the VP are the Continental Town & Country commuter tire (slip on the rim and rip off your valve stems, twice on the same ride descending Flagstaff road.)

    It seems to me that if you like Continental, you tend to dislike Nevegals and vice-versa. I know that lots of people really like the Contis, but I can't handle them. Maybe I'm just too much of a klutz for such a high-class tire
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    I put Nevegal DTC 2.1's on my hardtail becasue they get so much good press and I wanted to try them. They're nice - give a burly secure feel to an otherwise light and fast bike. However, I like Contis better and that is what I run on my primary ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KERKOVEJ
    +1 for the Mountain King 2.2...or 2.4. It's a good "do all" tire for riding all over CO and the West.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffkerkove/2826034696/" title="Conti Mountain King 2.2 Tubeless Tires by Jeff Kerkove, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3056/2826034696_c5068af61a.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Conti Mountain King 2.2 Tubeless Tires" /></a>
    Tires ARE funny. My buddy rode with me on Dakota Ridge last week and the bike had these tires. He HATED them...

    I like Ritchey Z-Max for "general" riding...

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    they just seem to use a durometer that is just too hard. That would explain their tread life.

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    Maxxis Minion DHF 2.35 Maxxpro 60A. It's about same width as 2.3 Conti Vert. Best gripping/feedback tire I ever tried.
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    Good job! Cudas Man

    I don't know how else to tell you..Hutchunson Cudas 2.3 UST ..They are the only tire to use

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    Quote Originally Posted by R steve
    I don't know how else to tell you..Hutchunson Cudas 2.3 UST ..They are the only tire to use
    Did yours mount with very little effort? I installed some (2.3 front/2.1 rear) on some Cane Creek wheels (with Bontrager rim strips), and they went on frighteningly easy (no more difficult than mounting regular tires w/tubes).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    Tires ARE funny. My buddy rode with me on Dakota Ridge last week and the bike had these tires. He HATED them...

    I like Ritchey Z-Max for "general" riding...
    I find the best results with these tires is running them tubeless with Stan's. I casing is super stiff, so I run about 18 PSI in the front and 23 PSI in the rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hairylegs
    the rear always wore out within 350 miles and were never on sale.
    Do any Continental tires last longer than 350 miles? I tried a Conti tire once and gave up on the brand when it was gone so quickly. To me, I'm not gonna spend that kinda money on a tire with such a short life.

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    I also was a big fan of the VP's for a long time, but that had to be due mostly to being some of the first 2.3 tubeless that were not super heavy freeride tires. However, because of their sidewall weakness and general crapliciousness on wet roots, on trails like the Peaks trail, I had to start looking elsewhere. While a tad heavier, I've been loving the Maxxis High Roller Lust 2.35 for Colorado front range to moab. The ignitors seem like a good replacement for the VP's in terms of tread design but maybe a bit better wear.

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    I ended up going with the Maxxis Ignitor UST. It's been amazing on the first two rides. Grippy. Still running the VP up front.

    I'm sure my tire decision allows many of you to finally get a good night's sleep.

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    I hated the Verticals with a passion! I had originally bought one for trials (front, rear is a very picky matter), thinking the tread looked good for riding rocks. The sidewalls seemed that they would have a nice bounce to them. 1st ride on rocks they slipped out everywhere and held no traction. I dumped a bunch of PSI praying that my tire would stick, sure enough nope.

    I decided to take it off the trials and put my trused Kenda Nevagal back on.

    I put the Vertical on my XC rig, thinking hey maybe these will work better at speed. Sure enough Nope. 1st XC ride I was slipping everywhere and couldnt take a corner at speed w/o the feeling that I am just going to wash out. Took it off and went back to my trused Maxxis on the XC bike.

    I run all ghetto-tubless w/ Kenda Nevagals, Schwalbe Nobby Nic, or Big Betty, or Maxxis, Brian Lopes, High Rollers, or Ignitor's. Depends on time of year, weather, and conditions. I even decided, despite my willingness not to, bought a specialized.. Hella damn good tire, till the frekking sidewall blew out.. week old rubber... rubbish. Thats what I get for goin Specialized.

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    +1 for disliking the Vert Pro. Never failed, just when I was hanging on in the corners, the thin sidewall would fold over and I'd wash out. Best use for them is on my beach cruiser.

    I'm an old school user of the Panaracer Smoke 2.1 front and rear for XC. Been experimenting with fatter rubber lately, but have no recommendations.

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    Bulldog?

    Anyone tried a Hutchinson Bulldog (for a rear tire)?

    I'm running a 2.1" UST Barracuda in back (2.3" up front), and was thinking about giving the Bulldog a try.
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