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    Pueblo Trail Conditions

    Thinking about heading down to Pueblo later this week. The Southern Colorado Trail Builders was updated on 12/23/2011 and says:

    Several inches of snow.
    Expect ...Snow , ice, and possible areas of mud.

    The weather has been warmer but I am curious if any one knows how much snow they got from the last storm and the current trail conditions.

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    I have not been down since last weeks storms. I'm betting there is still a good amount of snow covering the trails. Might be Ok if you get in and out before stuff starts thawing.

    Hopefully some locals will chime in with more info

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    I haven't looked at the forecast for next week, but I wouldn't expect to ride out there until next year. There is 8 inches of snow in my back yard right now, and I'm guessing there is just as much on the trails.

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    Update

    Just checked the update and it says the same thing. Its sunny and 50 in Boulder today. Are things actually melting down there? You think any trails along the Front Range will be decent by next weekend?

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    Just got a phone call from my wife who is standing on Pedro's Point at the Res right now. Oh, she snow shoed out there on 6 or 7 inches of snow. If you wanna mtb out there it's gonna be a couple of weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOUBLEJ View Post
    Just got a phone call from my wife who is standing on Pedro's Point at the Res right now. Oh, she snow shoed out there on 6 or 7 inches of snow. If you wanna mtb out there it's gonna be a couple of weeks.
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    It's $hitty now!!!! It's going to get $hittier (MUD)soon!!!!! Becoming less $hitty sometime in January. Going to take at least two weeks of sunny dry days to fix this MESS.

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    Hint- buy a headlight- the snow + mud freezes when the sun goes down

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    Boys, looks like we're gonna have to go further south this year. I'm thinking Vegas for a week, or three.
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    Surely it's decent by now. I want to go down at the end of this week.

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    the locals haven't updated the trail conditions since the 26th on their website, may be getting close. We're thinking of heading down next week--hope for no more snow there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaj View Post
    the locals haven't updated the trail conditions since the 26th on their website, may be getting close. We're thinking of heading down next week--hope for no more snow there.

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    I would be cautious about making assumptions. That storm just before Christmas roared across SE Colorado and dumped really quite a bit of snow. Pueblo got a fair dump. Salida got a little less, Monarch Pass/Ski Area got almost none.

    That clay is a true nightmare when it's saturated. I've been out there when it was 99.4% melted out, but had one 50' muddy section to cross on Voodoo to get home. That one little bit of wet glop wound clay up into my frame and fork when I rode 15' into it hoping to get across. Thoroughly slimed, I stopped and got off, but even walking across the last bit of it left my shoes with several pounds of goo that wasn't even easy to scrape off when still wet.

    I suspect that the conditions site may not have been updated for one or more of these reasons:

    1) key person is out of town for the holidays and is just getting back or will be soon.
    2) key person or persons have turned their back on Lake Pueblo SP for "a while" because they know that it's hopeless to even look for a while. They are riding the road or doing other things for a while.

    I wanna go too. I have the dirt jones really bad. Skinny tire riding is better than no riding, but I'm ripe for a bit of Outer Limits and Voodoo. However, I am not interested in caking my bike with adobe. Oddly enough, sounds like I could go over to Hartman in about the same amount of drive time and ride there. Weird year.
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    I have put in a call to LPSP today. Had to leave a message at the visitor center phone number. Hoping for a call back this week.

    Thier website has the following:
    Trails - 12/27/2011
    All trails are currently open. To minimize trail damage, the natural surface (dirt) trails are closed during wet conditions. Right now the trails are dry and in great shape.

    SCTrail builders has this:
    Trail Conditions: 12/26/2011
    Several inches of melting snow.
    Expect ...Snow , ice, and possible areas of mud.

    Who is telling the truth here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yetirich View Post
    ...website has the following:
    Trails - 12/27/2011
    All trails are currently open. To minimize trail damage, the natural surface (dirt) trails are closed during wet conditions. Right now the trails are dry and in great shape.

    SCTrail builders has this:
    Trail Conditions: 12/26/2011
    Several inches of melting snow.
    Expect ...Snow , ice, and possible areas of mud.

    Who is telling the truth here?
    I think that report dated 12/27 has got to be total fiction. There was a dang good pile of snow on that whole region a couple days before Christmas, and it was not warm for quite a while after that. I was in Canon City during Christmas, not warm. Snow on the ground. Pueblo and points east got more snow than Canon.

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    The first two both posted about a week ago and said it was definitely crapalicious. Yes, it's been warm, could be things have really turned around. But I'm definitely going to wait to hear from one of the mountain bikers. The State Park Rangers are nice people, but I think they are going from warm break room to warm pickup truck and back these days, not hitting the Voodoo trail.
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    I'm hoping to get out Thursday evening/night for our regular group ride. If I make it out, I will post what the trail conditions are like. I haven't talked to anybody else down here about the trail conditions, but we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dp_krenz View Post
    I'm hoping to get out Thursday evening/night for our regular group ride. If I make it out, I will post what the trail conditions are like. I haven't talked to anybody else down here about the trail conditions, but we'll see.
    Please do! My wife & I have a kid pass from Grandparents & want to head down from Ft Collins Friday am, ride, go out that night & ride again sat morning. Trails here are on hold for a bit I'm afraid.

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    The conditions have been updated:


    Trail Conditions: 1/4/2012.

    Still some snow and ice in the shded areas.
    Expect ...Possible areas of mud.


    Not very descriptive. Would still like a first hand update.

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    A buddy was down there Monday and said they ended up riding as far as they could, hitting mud, turning around, then doing the same thing on the next trail. Rode for about 90 minutes total. Didn't sound like much fun.

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    Just got a reported to me that it is still pretty muddy out at the Pueblo res with still snow and ice to be melted.

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    Suppose to be 64 in Pueblo today and 46 tomorrow. Man I want to ride my mountain bike.

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    64 during the day won't do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by co-dlk View Post
    Suppose to be 64 in Pueblo today and 46 tomorrow. Man I want to ride my mountain bike.
    One of the things I think people may not know about Pueblo weather--it does tend to get pretty warm during the days all year relative to elsewhere on the front range, but in winter it tends to get quite cold at night (more so than the typical front range location). Cold air drains down the Arkansas Valley. Salida tends to get super cold overnight then warm nicely during the day; likewise Canon City and Pueblo. So, say it gets down to between 0° and 15° F, then it warms to the 50's or 60's. The snow in places that are shaded most or all day in winter get a nice hard crust overnight. Maybe by afternoon they soften up enough to start the melt.

    Here in Salida, if you look up at Tenderfoot (S Mountain) it looks dry. You ride up there and say to yourself "hooray! the trails are dry!" then you ride around a corner into a north-facing section and you hit snow/mud.
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    Decided not to try it today, and it sounds like I made the right decision. The days need to get longer so we can have more sun to melt the snow.

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    Hrm... guessing should just suck it up and head to moab for the weekend- doesn't sound like it will be dried out enough by Saturday even with this crazy warm weather...

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    Just returned from a 4 hour loop ride around Pueblo, and yes don't try riding at the lake for another week or so. Saw a few folks who couldn't resist the dirt, they were returning to the parking lot caked in mud. All the hills and shadows out there create some huge pockets of mud, give it another week. The area behind Pueblo Motorsports Park on the other hand is very dry. This is where us Puebloans rode before the trails got built at the lake. If you like whoopty-do's and don't mind all the piles of trash it is a fun ride.

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    I'll echo what DoubleJ said. We road the paved trail for the group ride tonight, because the trails were too wet. We ran into a couple of shaded areas on the paved trails that still had ice on them. I wouldn't expect that the trails will be ride-able until next weekend if we don't get any moisture this weekend. If we get moisture this weekend, then who knows.

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    Well, I guess its not going to be Pueblo this weekend.
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    Yep, when it's like that, anything that holds moisture, like South Shore, the bottom sections of the canyons, is pretty much not ride-able. And it is also impossible to get out to the the outer trails since the connectors also retain the water. It needs a week, and maybe two until it's ready.

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    Did Pueblo get snow this round?

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    I heard Hartman rocks in gunnison is open, if you need a ride.

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    Pueblo Trails report

    The South Shore trails just received a trace of snow on Wednesday. The snow and ground moisture from two weeks ago however, just won't leave. Most of the exposed XC trails are dry with short areas of mud. The canyons still have snow and ice in the shaded areas.

    The problem with the mudded areas is the mud is unforgiving. Riding early or late while the ground is frozen, is recommended.

    I generally update the Lake Pueblo Trails website every couple days, however the conditions can vary substantially between trails and time of day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtreme-designs View Post
    The South Shore trails just received a trace of snow on Wednesday. The snow and ground moisture from two weeks ago however, just won't leave. Most of the exposed XC trails are dry with short areas of mud. The canyons still have snow and ice in the shaded areas.

    The problem with the mudded areas is the mud is unforgiving. Riding early or late while the ground is frozen, is recommended.

    I generally update the Lake Pueblo Trails website every couple days, however the conditions can vary substantially between trails and time of day.
    With tomorrow predicted to be 50 in Pueblo do you think the XC trails will be ok on Saturday?
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    No, trails will still be muddy this weekend. I was able to ride on Wednesday- the entire day was below 32 degrees, so the mud was frozen. I rode up to the parking lot today and talked to a fellow who had been out on the trails and he was covered in mud. Stay off

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    The state park condition update says that things are dry right now. I was hoping to do some of the Southern trails but stay above the canyons. Has anyone ridden the Voodoo trail this week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boulder Group Ride View Post
    The state park condition update says that things are dry right now. I was hoping to do some of the Southern trails but stay above the canyons. Has anyone ridden the Voodoo trail this week?
    The state park conditions are incorrect, it comes from them looking out their window or stepping a few feet onto the trail. The trails are still muddy in many places, and need at least another week to be drier. Unless you do them extremely early in the morning when they are frozen, stay at home, please. They are getting trashed from over use in these conditions. The soil just doesn't want to let go of the moisture this year, and has kept us southern locals at bay since December.

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    Thanks for the heads up. I will give it another week to dry before making the trip down there. Don't want to damage the trails. Are there any scheduled trail work days we could be a part of this spring. Who would I contact to schedule that?

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    Just a note, when I was out riding Wednesday on the frozen trails I was bouncing through a lot of ruts from bikes trashing the trails in the mud. The trail network is worked over in spots right now from a few folks riding when they shouldn't, Also new trails have been "magically" appearing in the past few months, so when it dries out this spring it will be a time of new discovery for folks, good times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boulder Group Ride View Post
    Thanks for the heads up. I will give it another week to dry before making the trip down there. Don't want to damage the trails. Are there any scheduled trail work days we could be a part of this spring. Who would I contact to schedule that?
    Mtrb.com user xtreme-designs is part of the main trail team, or you can check out their website at http://lakepueblotrails.org/default.asp for more info

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    Sounds like winter to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOUBLEJ View Post
    Just a note, when I was out riding Wednesday on the frozen trails I was bouncing through a lot of ruts from bikes trashing the trails in the mud. The trail network is worked over in spots right now from a few folks riding when they shouldn't, Also new trails have been "magically" appearing in the past few months, so when it dries out this spring it will be a time of new discovery for folks, good times.
    Tire tracks in mud.....they come and go every month every year. The same cycle I have watched for over 20 years and the planet is still on its axis. Riding in mud is far worse for your xx drive train than it is for the trail right??? They have been ridding and racing on the motox track in pueblo since the late 1800s?? in the mud and it looks just like it did the first time I saw it over 20 years ago! Now slam some kool aid and Faaaaalame away! For god sake people its dirt in Pueblo, its not going anywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waafoo View Post
    Tire tracks in mud.....they come and go every month every year. The same cycle I have watched for over 20 years and the planet is still on its axis. Riding in mud is far worse for your xx drive train than it is for the trail right??? They have been ridding and racing on the motox track in pueblo since the late 1800s?? in the mud and it looks just like it did the first time I saw it over 20 years ago! Now slam some kool aid and Faaaaalame away! For god sake people its dirt in Pueblo, its not going anywhere
    um yeah? - not really what I was getting at. I just don't like hitting a deep frozen tire track at speed and getting the sensation of going over the bars. I could care less about that BS
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    on a similar note... is Pueblo getting hit with snow or is it just up north?

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    25 degrees and a slight breeze currently. no snow predicted today. It's been warm and windy the past couple of days, bet the trails will be dry this week.

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    The upper XC trails including Inner and Outer limits and Voodoo are in good shape. There may be a few short damp/mud areas however. The canyons still have quite a bit of snow and ice, South Shore trail is pretty rutted and muddy in spots. Generally the trails are ridable, however just a little mud can have a big effect on your experience. Traffic and warm weather later this week should help smooth out the ruts.

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    I've never ridden in Pueblo. Per the maps it looks like it is mostly State park, is there a day use fee?
    Are there enough paved trails and fire roads to get in a winter ride on a sunny day?

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    There is a daily fee. It is $7.00 per day or you can use your annual state parks pass. I continue to be shocked at how many people avoid the fee and come in off the highway....come on! Doing this is not going to get more trail opened up but it may get it closed down.
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    [QUOTE=BoulderWhitewater;8919424]I've never ridden in Pueblo. Per the maps it looks like it is mostly State park, is there a day use fee?
    Are there enough paved trails and fire roads to get in a winter ride on a sunny day?

    It's all state park, also there is a concrete trail that goes from the dam 22 miles to the other end of town.

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    [QUOTE=deeppow;8919706]There is a daily fee. It is $7.00 per day or you can use your annual state parks pass. I continue to be shocked at how many people avoid the fee and come in off the highway....come on! Doing this is not going to get more trail opened up but it may get it closed down.

    I used to be shocked by it myself. After a decade of seeing cars parked out by the fences I realized the Rangers don't really care. Just gotta remember a lot of cars get broken into out there, it helps to drive a POS. I have a state parks pass I use to park at the marina lot, but I park outside the fences in about 3 different areas when I feel like mixing up my ride, South Shore and the Duke get a little old when you ride out there about 3 times a week. Red gate is a good place, but there is parking at the opposite end of the South Shore Trail and a good lot out at the Voodoo loop.
    P.S. pretty sure no trails are gonna be closing down anytime soon, It's always been a no man's land out there, and new trails keep appearing. The Ranger's almost act like the park stops at the Water Tower and anything south of it doesn't apply.
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    They are doing a bunch of construction by the dam for the Southern Delivery System (SDS), refer to Construction Update | Colorado State Parks, so make sure you check out the map if you're heading over by the dam itself.

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    the construction is only in the area directly below the dam. Doesn't really affect the biking unless you bike to the great fishing just below the dam.

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    Just returned from the Lake, rode Voodoo, Inner, + Outer limits. Inner limits and Voodoo have a few short muddy sections in them right now ( 10- 20 feet), otherwise the rest of my ride was very dry. I finished up with basically a little bit of mud on me that I was able to brush off when it dried, it's not wheel clogging muddy right now, and will only get better for you weekend riders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOUBLEJ View Post
    Just returned from the Lake, rode Voodoo, Inner, + Outer limits. Inner limits and Voodoo have a few short muddy sections in them right now ( 10- 20 feet), otherwise the rest of my ride was very dry. I finished up with basically a little bit of mud on me that I was able to brush off when it dried, it's not wheel clogging muddy right now, and will only get better for you weekend riders.
    That is such good news. I need my fix and will be there on Saturday.
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    How much snow fell in Pueblo? Any?

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    3" fell yesterday and it's 32 degrees right now. Riding this weekend? nope.

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