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    Idea! PSA: Don't bike UP the DH trails please!

    Was rather shocked to see uphill traffic on Money (black DH trail at Keystone). I politely informed the well outfitted XCer that doing so was a good way to die and take someone out too because nobody would be expecting uphill traffic while midair or in the berms because uphill was prohibited. I was ignored to say the least.

    Don't get yourself and others hurt or killed. Don't get bikes messed up. Don't go up the lift-served DH!

    Lift-served single track is officially closed to uphill during lift hours for the safety and enjoyment of all.
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    Holy $hit are some people stupid...

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    Need better signage. We had the same issue at WP this weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Holy $hit are some people stupid...
    Common Sense isn't taught in school anymore

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    I was all set to bring out the flame gun for giving in to the yahoos, but in this case, you're absolutely right!! And in this case, the XC rider going uphill is the slack-jawed, mouth breathing idiot.

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    Yeah...that is just plain common sense...or at the most, extremely minimal knowledge. I can't imagine coming down any of the lift served resorts only to see someone biking up.

    Nice work still keeping your head up on those trails! That could've been really, really bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountaingoatepics View Post
    Common Sense isn't taught by most parents anymore
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    Did he yell "STRAVA?"

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    Yeah, that is sketch. Especially on Money! I freaked out two hikers today right before the bridge on Sanitarium and then their were 4 other family members right by the corkscrew. Not sure if that's allowed?

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    its not allowed, i saw some hikers too, asked at the bottom then heckled on the lift ride up. riiiiight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountaingoatepics View Post
    Common Sense isn't taught in school anymore
    they couldn't figure out a way to test for it in multiple-guess format
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    It must be the heat. Normally there's only one guy who'd ride up a dh trail, and he's been too busy taking booty shots these days...
    I did try to dissuade a family from hiking up the middle of Goldrush at the Golden Bike Park. They looked at me like I was insulting their intelligence. Come to think of it, I probably was...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wisbike View Post
    its not allowed, i saw some hikers too, asked at the bottom then heckled on the lift ride up. riiiiight.

    Ok, that's what I thought. The first two older hikers practically had to jump out of the way on the start of the bridge. I thought I remember reading on the trail map that bikers must yield to all hikers. I was thinking is this for the DH trails? Then being in the usual local trails mentality I was all excuse me/sorry. Bad Hikers!

    But I guess I put on a show for the guy and his kid since he was all mr corkscrew man.. Good job. Not that it's difficult or anything.

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    There is one section over in that area where you have to ride uphill on the trail (jackstraw/money area) to access a climb that goes up to the Ida Bell mine. Not saying that that is OK, but I've done it, it's only for a few hundred feet and I'm super aware to stay out of the way of DHers. We've been riding that road/trail since before the ski area opened for mtbing and it sucks, but it's the only way up over there that I've found besides riding to the top and back down.

    Maybe that's what these people were doing. I can't imagine riding UP Money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Holy $hit are some people stupid...
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    It was just as bad at trestle this weekend. some xc guys went down boot camp only to realize you have to take Beall down. they saw the first drop and rode back up boot camp. i would freak if i saw those guys coming up. also some xc rider was sliding on his ass down the drop after the rainbow bridge on Beall. I waited for him to clear but some guy tried to bypass me at the start to drop in. good thing i stopped him cuz he would've landed on top of that guy. there's signage at the entrance to warn riders that it's an expert only exit off boot camp. sheesh.

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    Oh Keystone...

    Back in 2001, I did my first DH race at Keystone resort. This was back before they had very many trails, and the DH course was 15+ minutes long for many sport/beginner level amateurs. I was barreling down the last straight before very last left-hander that brings you into the gondo area, and I look up to see some guy CLIMBING up the DH course! Keep in mind... this is the LAST STRAIGHTAWAY into the finish line... there's a HUGE finish line structure, music playing, people gathered around, you know... A FRIKKEN RACE GOING ON...

    ...and here this guy is obliviously pedaling up the DH course, not a care in the world.

    There are people yelling at him from below, the announcer is saying "hey buddy, what are you doing?" and then there's me... full-face helmet, moto roost guard, full-wrap EVS shin guards, mismatched cotton jersey and DH shorts combo... caning my beloved Schwinn 4-banger for all she's got, 15 minutes deep into anaerobic death by Logger's Way and screaming holy sh!t fvcking bloody murder at this guy. He barely stops and moves in time for me to not level him flat, and as I pass he's got this bewildered look on his face of "What did I do wrong? I thought uphill traffic has the right of way?" And all I can think is...

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    oh my god, ... a mismatched jersey? say it ain't so
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    Aww man that's a funny story Full Trucker! The visual of this doofus riding up oblivious to anything happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Full Trucker View Post
    Oh Keystone...

    Back in 2001, I did my first DH race at Keystone resort. This was back before they had very many trails, and the DH course was 15+ minutes long for many sport/beginner level amateurs. I was barreling down the last straight before very last left-hander that brings you into the gondo area, and I look up to see some guy CLIMBING up the DH course! Keep in mind... this is the LAST STRAIGHTAWAY into the finish line... there's a HUGE finish line structure, music playing, people gathered around, you know... A FRIKKEN RACE GOING ON...

    ...and here this guy is obliviously pedaling up the DH course, not a care in the world.

    There are people yelling at him from below, the announcer is saying "hey buddy, what are you doing?" and then there's me... full-face helmet, moto roost guard, full-wrap EVS shin guards, mismatched cotton jersey and DH shorts combo... caning my beloved Schwinn 4-banger for all she's got, 15 minutes deep into anaerobic death by Logger's Way and screaming holy sh!t fvcking bloody murder at this guy. He barely stops and moves in time for me to not level him flat, and as I pass he's got this bewildered look on his face of "What did I do wrong? I thought uphill traffic has the right of way?" And all I can think is...
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    I thought these guys only liked fire roads?

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    Full Trucker that is hilarious!
    Quote Originally Posted by bipolarbear View Post
    There is one section over in that area where you have to ride uphill on the trail (jackstraw/money area) to access a climb that goes up to the Ida Bell mine. Not saying that that is OK, but I've done it, it's only for a few hundred feet and I'm super aware to stay out of the way of DHers. We've been riding that road/trail since before the ski area opened for mtbing and it sucks, but it's the only way up over there that I've found besides riding to the top and back down.

    Maybe that's what these people were doing. I can't imagine riding UP Money.
    I was wondering the same thing having hiked to Ide Belle. Maybe he got lost?
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    Why on gods green earth would someone choose to climb Keystone or Winter Park (or any mountain) when there is a perfectly good bike haul right there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopsalot View Post
    why on gods green earth would someone choose to climb keystone or winter park (or any mountain) when there is a perfectly good bike haul right there?
    for tha lulz.
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    So officially, Ida Belle access is not technically legal from Keystone due to a private inholding (which is for sale for 1.9 million and has been forever). If one was going to access Ida Belle from Keystone during lift hours, the proper way to avoid going up DH trails is to ride up Jackstraw Road until you get to the top of Loggers Way, then go down it till you hit the trail that goes up to the mine.
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    Why would anyone want to ride a bike at a resort?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zrm View Post
    Why would anyone want to ride a bike uphill at a resort?
    FTFY Old Man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonvelocity View Post
    That's nice because while riding up Money or another obviously DH run is unusual it wasn't too uncommon to encounter riders pedaling up the green run. While a safe amount of room was always given, DH riders would ride by them and I've heard the climbers get angry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    FTFY Old Man.

    Why would anyone want to ride at a resort when there are literally hundreds of miles of fabulous trails surrounding said resort?

    Actually, I've ridden loops at the resorts in Summit but only after the lifts have stopped running.

    All I can say is s small percentage of people don't know any better and signage, etc, needs to do whatever it takes to educate those folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zrm View Post
    Why would anyone want to ride a bike at a resort?
    You are correct, these bikes look like sh!t and the guys riding them are having no fun at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zrm View Post
    Why would anyone want to ride at a resort when there are literally hundreds of miles of fabulous trails surrounding said resort?
    [rises... looks at the lame bait... and doesn't take it]


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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    [rises... looks at the lame bait... and TOTALLY takes it]


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    Mmm... bacon...

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    I'm at a loss to understand these people. If you go to a resort, you know it's all about the DH. Supposing you were a cheap bastard and didn't want to pay for a ticket, you might try riding uphill. But you would be well aware that there are going to be a ton of people on the DH. So there's no cogent excuse I can think of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithnu View Post
    You are correct, these bikes look like sh!t and the guys riding them are having no fun at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zrm View Post
    Looks like some daymn MOTORcycle. We're talking about BIcycles here right?
    Ha no kidding, I had to point out to a guy at work in a picture that there was no motor on my DH bike. He was surprised a bicycle could even look like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka View Post
    I'm at a loss to understand these people. If you go to a resort, you know it's all about the DH. Supposing you were a cheap bastard and didn't want to pay for a ticket, you might try riding uphill. But you would be well aware that there are going to be a ton of people on the DH. So there's no cogent excuse I can think of.
    I would say that just about any mountain biker wouldn't go to a resort. However, those that have mountain bikes will. The riders that occasionally go for a ride are attracted to the resort due to it's 'safety'. Its in a confined area and very well marked with lunch at the bottom. Those people don't like to figure out trails, locations, map reading for the fear if something happens, they could be in big trouble. Like a safety blanket.

    The riders (okay, they were tourists) weren't your average rider. It looked like they pulled the bikes out of the garage with the intent they'll be going back in until next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndecentExposure View Post
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    I'm totally gonna name my next punk band this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hopsalot View Post
    Why on gods green earth would someone choose to climb Keystone or Winter Park (or any mountain) when there is a perfectly good bike haul right there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Full Trucker View Post
    for tha lulz.
    post of the month. Laughed so hard I had chicken noodle soup coming out my nose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve71 View Post
    post of the month. Laughed so hard I had chicken noodle soup coming out my nose.
    Wow...

    Is it really that great? Care to elaborate on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman View Post
    Wow...

    Is it really that great? Care to elaborate on this?
    It was a subtle reference to the chicken man. IE he is just the type to ride up hill at a resort to bring the lulz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Full Trucker View Post
    I'm totally gonna name my next punk band this...
    Mind don't head to that gutter...I said stop!!! Damn, well this could be taken the wrong way as I am guessing is the intention.

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    I was with a group up folks who rode UP (yes up) Keystone to the summit last night. We started at 6:00 pm so no worries about people coming down. We rode up the green run (Celtic?) and there were a bunch of signs reading "no uphill traffic during operating hours" posted at many, but not all intersections with the service roads. We then rode down Mosquito coast and saw no one.

    The green trail is actually a very nice climb and the dirt was very tacky from the little bit of rain we've had the last couple days, but even without posted rules, I wouldn't consider riding up it when the lift is spinning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zrm View Post
    but even without posted rules, I wouldn't consider riding up it when the lift is spinning.
    and therein lies the difference between someone who has common sense... and the type of person that this thread is about.


    I thought you wouldn't ride the resort anyhow... WTF man????
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