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    Possible MTBR gathering...trolling for interest

    Some of you may have seen the thread concerning a Rockies/Colorado MTBR gathering over in Passion I certianly don't want to be saddled with all the work, so at this point I'm just trolling for who would be interested in helping out with it? No commitment at all at this point. Rider leaders/sweepers, planners, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    Some of you may have seen the thread concerning a Rockies/Colorado MTBR gathering over in Passion I certianly don't want to be saddled with all the work, so at this point I'm just trolling for who would be interested in helping out with it? No commitment at all at this point. Rider leaders/sweepers, planners, etc...
    I would help.

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    Don't underestimate the work.

    Kristian did a gathering a few years ago in Buffalo creek and it was a lot of work for many people. It was fun but he worked hard, along with people like bobcat, and others.

    I cut down the work considerably by tacking on a gathering to the FFTF two years ago. It worked too and was a lot easier since I didn't have to coordinate lodging and stuff. We just designated ride plans.

    Last year we used the FFTF to gather again in an even less formal sense and it worked well again...This is the kind of gathering I like.

    I would really suggest talking to Kristian if you want to do a full blown gathering.

    Personally, I like the FFTF as a venue for a gathering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    Don't underestimate the work.
    Yeah I'll ask Kristian. I do like the idea of tacking it onto FFTF. I'm just curious at this point. I'd like to see one, but I'm relatively lazy. Just want to get a ball park on how much work is involved.

    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    Last year we used the FFTF to gather again in an even less formal sense and it worked well again...This is the kind of gathering I like.
    Must have been real informal. I didn't know about it. How many people showed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    Some of you may have seen the thread concerning a Rockies/Colorado MTBR gathering over in Passion I certianly don't want to be saddled with all the work, so at this point I'm just trolling for who would be interested in helping out with it? No commitment at all at this point. Rider leaders/sweepers, planners, etc...
    I'd do what I can, but I'm a FR newbie so I don't have any connections, fitness, skill, etc...

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    I would be interested also.
    Take the long cut, we'll get there eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    Must have been real informal. I didn't know about it. How many people showed?
    Yeah...it was kinda like. "Are you going to fruita, tomorrow, If so, I will see you there since I just found out from my boss, I can get away."

    The weather really messed it up last year too since there was a huge snow on Wednesday, closing the interstate.

    Some who showed: pinkPete, Kristian (but he never made it out of moab), singlespeedster, MTBbrian, brianc, mtbtreker, Shabadu, and about 5 others. I reserved a campsite, lots of ppl asked to stay but shabs was the only show--even I didn't show up to the campsite.

    This year, there should be a better announcement. The FFTF happens regardless. It's just hooking up with people that is the trick.

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    I'm interested and will help as much as I can.
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    I'd be willing to help - depending on the time frame.

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    if i am not racing i will help

    count me in if i have the time.. you could always go to our local fat tire society to get some help or maybe piggyback on one of their events.. sfts.un or sfts.us is the website...
    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    Some of you may have seen the thread concerning a Rockies/Colorado MTBR gathering over in Passion I certianly don't want to be saddled with all the work, so at this point I'm just trolling for who would be interested in helping out with it? No commitment at all at this point. Rider leaders/sweepers, planners, etc...

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    In.

    In the past I've done a lot of ride organization and clinic type rides. I'm always up for that.

    If we have significant amounts of people flying in from elsewhere, we could probably work something out with the shop for receiving shipped bikes. Maybe even have the shop van show up with all the bikes at the trailhead for the first ride.
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    I'll help. rides, organization, website, whatever. I've probably got a little time to spare.

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    i have no idea

    what fftf is? or what would be going on there, but im in anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowskilz
    what fftf is? or what would be going on there, but im in anyways
    Fruita Fat Tire Festival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdub
    Fruita Fat Tire Festival.
    count me in. we a had already talked about doing this on Ridemonkey, but Tony has absolutly no follow through..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbike24_7
    count me in. we a had already talked about doing this on Ridemonkey, but Tony has absolutly no follow through..
    It's not my fault. My mom's in Cali for the weekend, so that means that im at my dads house and all my siblings are here too which means that ther arent too many options for us to do biking things and my parents are anal about me going to meet people older than me that aren't in C-Springs so no way could i have done it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by COmtbiker12
    It's not my fault. My mom's in Cali for the weekend, so that means that im at my dads house and all my siblings are here too which means that ther arent too many options for us to do biking things and my parents are anal about me going to meet people older than me that aren't in C-Springs so no way could i have done it.
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    I'll help.

    A month or so ago I went to GITA (Gathering in the Aspens), which is a gathering in Northern New Mexico.

    GITA was small but excellent.

    Here's some of what I think went into making GITA excellent:

    a) ride selection - includes scouting, preparing directions to trailhead, mapping, and communicating. People need to know how to get there even if they're not involved in the rest of the gathering; they need to spontaneously be able to show up for just one ride. Also, they need to know in advance the level of difficulty, distance, and time required for each ride.

    b) ride leaders - a leader and a caboose for each ride. Also, many rides may have an "A" and a "B" group and leaders will be needed for each.

    c) lodging - somebody needs to put together a list of suitable hotels and campsites, along with directions etc. At GITA, many people voluntarily hosted many guests, and there was an informal communication about this.


    On another note, a Gathering coincident with FFTF would be good but it has nothing to do with a true front range gathering - I believe we should do a front range gathering also. I'd nominate Buffalo Creek and Monarch Crest as rides, and maybe some local rides (eg White Ranch) for the early arrivals.

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    Alright...looks like we have the right numbers interested. Now to discuss venues/dates. How about this. Everbody who's interested email me with your email at
    kirkmetz at yahoo dotted com

    I'll put together a yahoogroups distro list...or we can just discuss it here.

    I know we got some suggestions for locations...here's my thoughts. I like the idea of one day at a ski resort. Say Keystone/vail. I know a few good epic style XC styles in the vicinity of both, as well as some shorter stuff. I would really like to have at least one day to "show off" the colorado mtns. E.g. a monarch pass ride, Kenosha pass ride etc...maybe for the advanced group. Note we'll have to take into account many of the people coming may be flatlanders so a shuttleable epic is ideal at least for the non-advanced groups.

    thoughts? Or just send me your emails and we'll go that route.

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    I'm in. Just to pass on a little experience I've had with this kind of stuff: Each year we have what we have affectionately called the "Testicle Tour" so named because it takes balls to do it. Originally it was some impossibly hard collection of rides over a 4-5 day period and we had people come in from both coasts and in the middle to participate. The effects of altitude on those coming in the from low altitude was tough and shouldn't be underestimated, we damned near killed a guy the first year. For the last couple of years we tamed it down so out-of-towners had a better chance of enjoying the riding instead of just surviving.

    I've found that Monarch Crest/Rainbow Trail/Methodist/Bear is the perfect "big" ride for groups with varying skill levels & speeds. The "high altitude" climbing part is non-technical. Riders can make it as hard & long or as short & easy as they want and there are all kinds of "bail" points along the route in case someone has a mechanical, an injury, too tired or some other reason for quitting the ride and there are several natural "regroup" points on the route too. Salida is also only 3-hours from Denver which makes the logistics a little easier and another nice aspect is that the Salida/Buena Vista area has tons of other great rides. The less you have to move around, the less hassle it is for everybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    Alright...looks like we have the right numbers interested. Now to discuss venues/dates. How about this. Everbody who's interested email me with your email at
    kirkmetz at yahoo dotted com

    I'll put together a yahoogroups distro list...or we can just discuss it here.

    I know we got some suggestions for locations...here's my thoughts. I like the idea of one day at a ski resort. Say Keystone/vail. I know a few good epic style XC styles in the vicinity of both, as well as some shorter stuff. I would really like to have at least one day to "show off" the colorado mtns. E.g. a monarch pass ride, Kenosha pass ride etc...maybe for the advanced group. Note we'll have to take into account many of the people coming may be flatlanders so a shuttleable epic is ideal at least for the non-advanced groups.

    thoughts? Or just send me your emails and we'll go that route.

    Kirk
    I've got a ride or two in mind that's shareable with the masses. Also, I'll get to work putting together a website for details/promotion and various other tools... I've got dibs on that job.

    More after breakfast and voting.

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    I already voted...dibs on website huh? And I thought I would get those duties. I just stepped up to a fully hosted and under contented website (www.kirkmetz.com). We can discuss. Coding html does get boring pretty fast for me, as you can tell by my main webpage.

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    Oh yeah you guys...once again, giving me your email commits you to nothing, so if you're on the fence on helping, or just want to stay informed of what's going on, send me your addy to and you'll be on the list.

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    Yo, I'm in!!

    Fruita/Monarch whatever it takes!
    I have no idea what I'm talking about...But yeah, that sounds about right.

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    Join the associated yahoo group here

    or email me and I'll invite you in.
    http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Frontrange_MTBR/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    or email me and I'll invite you in.
    http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Frontrange_MTBR/
    I'm in. Now I've just got to buy a trainer and spend all winter spinning like crazy so I'll be up to the climbs out here.

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    Cool, you'll be tearing up the climbs in no time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    I already voted...dibs on website huh? And I thought I would get those duties. I just stepped up to a fully hosted and under contented website (www.kirkmetz.com). We can discuss. Coding html does get boring pretty fast for me, as you can tell by my main webpage.
    It's all you then.... If you need space or design work let me know. That's part of my wife's job and was once my job... when I was part of the workforce.

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    Screw that buddy....I was thinking about it. I don't mind hosting it off my site, but I don't want to do any coding/design if I don't have to. I have zero creativity.

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    Nothing to do with a gathering since it ain't in CO, but I spent the last couple weeks in Moab but didn't get a chance to try the "Burro Down" trail. Anyone here done it and any interest in getting together next season to check it out? Supposed to be an great ride that starts above treeline in the Lasals and then work its way down to Upper Porc (above the Porc Rim trailhead where the DH course starts) and then down the normal Porc trail and back to town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    Screw that buddy....I was thinking about it. I don't mind hosting it off my site, but I don't want to do any coding/design if I don't have to. I have zero creativity.
    Ok then... how 'bout this... We colaborate on content, you give me ftp access (muhahahahaha) and I'll lay out some samples over the next week or so.

    First things first though. Let's listen to some brainstorming from the masses on rides, dates, possible lodging etc...

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    I've heard of that ride before (1st time by that name though from Mel's new book). Been on my list for over a year now. Have to choose the right time to go, but very interested. Late spring (so the snow is gone), or Early Fall. I was up in late Spring 2003 and still was shutdown by snow at one of the passes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    I just stepped up to a fully hosted and under contented website (www.kirkmetz.com).
    I just stopped by your page there to check it out....

    Riding in Moab...
    Riding if Fruita...
    Riding all over the Front Range...
    Tulsa zoo.... What?

    Tulsa Zoo - what is that about? Mainly curious as Tulsa is where I've lived for the last 6 years and most people don't go to Tulsa for anything other than business or family. Not exactly a tourist hot spot. Nice place to live, and actually pretty good riding, but just not a common destination for most people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    I've heard of that ride before (1st time by that name though from Mel's new book). Been on my list for over a year now. Have to choose the right time to go, but very interested. Late spring (so the snow is gone), or Early Fall. I was up in late Spring 2003 and still was shutdown by snow at one of the passes.
    Yeah, I started hearing about it a couple of years ago and it was called the Lost Burro Trail or somesuch. Anyway, back then we went up and scouted it in the truck but some of the guys I was with weren't too keen on testing the waters without knowing the route. I think it's mapped & marked now and saw it in Mel's as the "Burro Down."

    This year we didn't hit Moab until after Interbike and weather/snow in the mountains kept us from going up to try it. Definitely want to hit it next season. My experiences with Onion Creek and the high mountain trails in that area means it can't even be wet up there unless you want to hike/drag/curse your bike through the clay. This time we were up there in the truck scouting another trail I'd heard about and even with 4wd, decent tires, and locked diffs, some of the service roads up there are near impassable in the wet.

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    i'm down for it. uh, i'll provide medical attention as needed. no, i'm not bringing any oxygen along for out of staters.

    maybe a long weekend camping thing along the breck-vail coridor area? close access to both lift areas, lots of colorado trail/high alpine riding, peaks trail for a mellow ride (or a night ride one day) and many loop/out and back/shuttle options. fairly close to DIA for anyone flying in, and plenty of camping, so long as we were to reserve spots. and some hotels/bed and breakfast options for folks who want that. and food/breweries in the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitchenware
    First things first though. Let's listen to some brainstorming from the masses on rides, dates, possible lodging etc...
    South Front Range - Co Springs. I know nothing but the pictures are pretty.

    North Front Range - Boulder County. Camp Dick could have some possibilities (Buchanan Pass, Sourdough, Bunce School & camping). Most other places up here don't have official camping that's large enough, and if 35 people show up in the forest unannounced that could cause some problems.

    Close Mountains:

    WP - good riding & good variety, camping? dispersed is good, tough for large groups. Forest Service Camping?

    Breck - good riding & good variety, camping? Close to Keystone for a day of that silliness. Close to hotels, food, etc.



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    Thanks for coordinating this.

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    I just joined. Let me know if I can help with coordination. I'm a great secretary.


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    Bump...why you ask? Because I can. I would IM the designated moderator for this lovely group of ours and ask for a sticky, but I don't know who the fock that is.

    Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    Bump...why you ask? Because I can. I would IM the designated moderator for this lovely group of ours and ask for a sticky, but I don't know who the fock that is.

    Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    Bump...why you ask? Because I can. I would IM the designated moderator for this lovely group of ours and ask for a sticky, but I don't know who the fock that is.

    Cheers.
    it's trevor, the aussie dude. i guess none of us stepped forward quickly enought o do it, so he ended up with the job. poor schmuck.

    post something up for sale, without a corresponding link to an mtbr classified, and he'll get in touch with you......
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrublover
    post something up for sale, without a corresponding link to an mtbr classified, and he'll get in touch with you......
    Probably even before you hit the Submit button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrublover
    it's trevor, the aussie dude. i guess none of us stepped forward quickly enought o do it, so he ended up with the job. poor schmuck.

    post something up for sale, without a corresponding link to an mtbr classified, and he'll get in touch with you......
    I asked gregg and CraigH but they never responded back to me....and this was like 4-5 months ago.
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    One comment to people stepping up to help.

    If you are volunteering, please think ahead and be ready to commit! When the ball gets rolling, people will be depending on your to come through because there will the peeps who buy airline tickets and make a commitment to come to this event.

    I'm sure Kirk (or whoever takes the lead) will appreciate that.

    With that said, I want to stay out of helping as much as possible--well maybe I will help a little. I do want to ride however :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    One comment to people stepping up to help.

    If you are volunteering, please think ahead and be ready to commit! When the ball gets rolling, people will be depending on your to come through because there will the peeps who buy airline tickets and make a commitment to come to this event.

    I'm sure Kirk (or whoever takes the lead) will appreciate that.

    With that said, I want to stay out of helping as much as possible--well maybe I will help a little. I do want to ride however :P
    i dont know what the details of this are... But i do want to help, if its picking ppl up the airport and bringing them to a campsite thats cool with me. Im not going to run this whole thing but id def be glad to help out a lil

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    what's your email Todd? I'll put you on the group list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    what's your email Todd? I'll put you on the group list.

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