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    Planning a Trestle Winter park trip July 2014 - I need some Bike/gear advice please

    Hey everyone,

    I am planning a Bike Park trip with my best friend this year and will be heading out to Trestle Bike Park area (Winter Park) around the 2nd or 3rd week in July 2014.

    We mainly ride around the St. louis area at some state parks which is pretty much "All Mountain Biking" some downhills but nothing even close to Colorado terrain.

    So were thinking we need some better gear for safety since i'm sure we will be hitting bigger drops/ramps than we ever have before...ya know just in case....

    I'm in the market for:

    Neck Brace
    Jacket
    BIKE (I have a Giant hard tail at the moment but need a Full suspension)

    I researched neck braces, Leatt, EVS Evolution and Alpinestars BNF. Man there is a ton of info, contradictions, varying opinions etc and I am LOST on which to get. I hear the Leatt is better, looked at the DBR Comp 4 but at $350 that is pricey, anyone run the leatt adventure brace which is much cheaper?

    Also looking for some body armor, thought about the Fox Titan but it isn't very compatible with the neck braces. Maybe thor?

    I ALSO NEED A NEW MOUNTAIN BIKE!!!

    My buddy has the Giant XO, 6.7" of travel etc, I rode it quite a bit last year and I really like it. IS there another comparable bike to the Giant XO in another brand I should consider, looking for used as I don;t want to drop 4K+, somewhere between 12-1500 (Found an XO for 1200).

    What gear do you run when hitting up this park, we also plan to hit SolVista and possibly Keystone but i'm not sure how far away that is yet. Still planning it all out.

    Any help would be great. Thanks in advance.

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    Trestle?

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    Yah Trestle, my fault. Fixed it.

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    Not sure if this is beneath you but you could always rent. Trestle's gear packages include body armor but I'm not sure about neck braces. As for the bike, renting probably makes more sense. You'll get a much nicer bike than whats in your price range that works well out here and won't go to waste in St. Louis (no offense of course).

    Keystone is about 1:20 from WP. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terp View Post
    Not sure if this is beneath you but you could always rent. Trestle's gear packages include body armor but I'm not sure about neck braces. As for the bike, renting probably makes more sense. You'll get a much nicer bike than whats in your price range that works well out here and won't go to waste in St. Louis (no offense of course).

    Keystone is about 1:20 from WP. Good luck.
    Is the Giant XO not a good bike for Colorado? Do you need more of a DH bike for these parks? What does everyone ride out there?

    The reason i'd rather not rent is so that I can be comfortable on my own bike and equipment. I'm sure I will be doing bigger drops/ramps than ever before so i'd rather be on a bike I am experienced on already.

    Keystone sounds good, not to far away at 1hr 20 min so we will be adding that into our trip.

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    Depends....

    Personally I hate armor and full faces. So I just skipped some of the biggest features. Rode all but maybe 2 trails there. Used a 2011 Stumpy FSR 29er with a 275 out back. At times the bike felt underforked but overall it was good. I did mash a knee on a fall.

    If I get to go back this year I'll take my 275 wheels on a 6" travel bike. I'd say that'd be perfect.

    In about 20 years of mountain the 2 most fun days of riding I had were probably at Trestle.

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    Rent rent rent! Brand new bikes u can beat the heck out of, only takes one run to get used to it, dont have to drag your crap all over the US, all the gear is included, multiple bikes to choose from,damage waiver is like only $10 so go ahead and try to double that jump, save a bunch of money not buying crap you will only use once! No brainer!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waafoo View Post
    Rent rent rent! Brand new bikes u can beat the heck out of, only takes one run to get used to it, dont have to drag your crap all over the US, all the gear is included, multiple bikes to choose from,damage waiver is like only $10 so go ahead and try to double that jump, save a bunch of money not buying crap you will only use once! No brainer!!!
    As a season ticket owner of three years, it seems that renting is a good way to go. One price for the bike, armor, and lift ticket, somewhere around 80-100$.

    The three most visited parks are Winter Park, Keystone, and Granby Ranch (previously known as Sol Vista). Winter Park is the buffist. Limited rock gardens and step sections. Keystone is the exact opposite. Great for the Rock Brawler in you. Rough most of the way down and a good handful of steeps. Granby is somewhere in between as pertaining to technicality. Winter Park and Keystone's runs are really long. You will most likely pause throughout your runs in key spots. At Granby, you typically go from top to bottom with its shorter, fun runs. JUMPS: Winter Park and, as of recently, Granby are 99% table tops. Keystone uses a good chunk of true doubles.

    I like Winter Park the best. I've ridden there on multiple DH rigs, All Mountain both 26 and 29. Whatever. Fun, flowy, long jump lines, berms, etc. I go to Keystone about once a year for the contrast. All three offer package deals on tickets and gear.

    There is plenty of free camping in the national forests around the region.

    If you end up bringing you trail bike, you will be pleased to know that there are hundred of miles to XC in the Summit county area.

    Crested Butte, Telluride, Steamboat, Snowmass, Vail, and then Angel Fire down in New Mexico are all great places for lift access. They are all different, but fun nonetheless.

    I think I have forgotten the original question...

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    You would be fine on the Giant XO, and you'll see people riding all kinds of stuff up there. As long as the bike your on is not a Wal-Mart build and you know how to handle it well, it's always a blast! With that said, if you're really going to go all out and hit the big drops and fly down the blacks, nothing beats a bad ass dh bike. So if that's you, I completely agree with waafoo. Rent. Especially since you can't really enjoy a full dh bike back in StLou. But if you really want that Giant XO, and end up getting one, it will handle any run at Trestle. Do get yourself atleast knee and elbow pads and a good helmet or the full kit if you're going all out (all comes with rental package - another reason to rent if you're only there for a couple days)

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    I presume you're talking about a Giant *Reign* X0?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUCD VPR View Post
    Is the Giant XO not a good bike for Colorado? Do you need more of a DH bike for these parks? What does everyone ride out there?

    The reason i'd rather not rent is so that I can be comfortable on my own bike and equipment. I'm sure I will be doing bigger drops/ramps than ever before so i'd rather be on a bike I am experienced on already.

    Keystone sounds good, not to far away at 1hr 20 min so we will be adding that into our trip.
    The Reign will be a perfect bike for Trestle, even more fun than a full on DH bike. I way prefer my Specy Enduro 29 to my 2012 Demo 8 at the park. keystone?, Demo 8 please, although it will still be fun on the Reign : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    I presume you're talking about a Giant *Reign* X0?
    Yes, I am talking about buying the Giant Reign XO. Is there another band bike similar to this bike that I should consider?

    I want something that will handle Colorado but also something I can ride and enjoy in St. Louis. I only have a hardtail Giant Yukon... so no matter what I need a new bike this year.

    It's either the XO which can take on some DH terrain or something like the Giant Trance X2 style - all mountain bike, but I don't think that would be nearly enough for Colorado park trips.

    This will not be our only trip, My wife and I are going to Moab this year also to ride and may hit up Colorado around memorial day also. So possibly 3 bike trips this year. Possibly returning year after year if my buddy and I dig it, which I am sure we will from what you guys are saying!

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    Thanks for the replies guys, I appreciate the help so far! I'm getting a lot of good info here.
    We may even Camp like one of you suggested, I was wondering about the availability, so knowing it is available is great. I also like bringing bikes because it gives us the option to go ride anything, anywhere, anytime. This will probably be 4-5 days of riding different parks, maybe 2 days at Trestle, 1 day at Keystone, 1 at SolVista and hit up a few XC trails in the Summit County area like "SomethingRelatedToBiking" suggested.

    Any really good camping areas that are scenic looking, we may even do some fishing while were up there for the times when we're to tired to MTB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUCD VPR View Post
    Yes, I am talking about buying the Giant Reign XO. Is there another band bike similar to this bike that I should consider?

    I want something that will handle Colorado but also something I can ride and enjoy in St. Louis. I only have a hardtail Giant Yukon... so no matter what I need a new bike this year.

    It's either the XO which can take on some DH terrain or something like the Giant Trance X2 style - all mountain bike, but I don't think that would be nearly enough for Colorado park trips.

    This will not be our only trip, My wife and I are going to Moab this year also to ride and may hit up Colorado around memorial day also. So possibly 3 bike trips this year. Possibly returning year after year if my buddy and I dig it, which I am sure we will from what you guys are saying!
    So you want a do-it-all bike? The Reign-X is probably as close as you're going to get... but I'd wager it will be HUGE overkill for St. Louis. You should probably get a bike appropriate for St. Louis and rent a DH bike when you go to the bike parks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    So you want a do-it-all bike? The Reign-X is probably as close as you're going to get... but I'd wager it will be HUGE overkill for St. Louis. You should probably get a bike appropriate for St. Louis and rent a DH bike when you go to the bike parks.
    Yah I am pretty sure I am not going to rent this year.

    I am ok with the XO being overkill for ST. Louis, we have bottomed out my buddies XO a few times on some drops around here already, it's tougher on the uphill climbs but with an adjustable seat post and lock out to climb it's not too bad.

    I will do some more looking around but so far the Reign XO seems to be the way to go so far. Thanks for the suggestions.

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    What gear do you guys run when hitting up these parks? We currently have full face helmets and shin/knee guards.

    Chest protector?
    Neck Brace? Anyone tried out the EVS Evolution or the Leatt adventure brace?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUCD VPR View Post
    Yah I am pretty sure I am not going to rent this year.

    I am ok with the XO being overkill for ST. Louis, we have bottomed out my buddies XO a few times on some drops around here already, it's tougher on the uphill climbs but with an adjustable seat post and lock out to climb it's not too bad.

    I will do some more looking around but so far the Reign XO seems to be the way to go so far. Thanks for the suggestions.
    I'd suggest you look at the Trance-SX (Reign replacement) and Trance-X as well from the new Giant offerings. Might be more suitable as an all-around for someone that spends most of their riding time in the Midwest.

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    I have a Leatt neck brace. Not sure which one, but it was ~ $350 IIRC.

    The biggest problem with a brace/chest protector/helmet/backpack is getting everything to work together and still have the needed range of motion. For that reason I ended up buying into the Leatt system and bought their compatible chest protector (which is great because it does not have a zip down the middle of your chest).

    But make sure you test everything together before you commit to buying. Also read how to fit the brace properly before going into the store. The "expert" I bought from fitted me to the wrong size. It has to fit well to protect you and there is a fine line to achieving correct fit and good range of motion.

    Full disclosure: I've never ridden my MTB with the brace or the chest protector - I use them for moto in the high country where it's always below 75 degs.

    Reign's are great for Colorado as they take the square edge hits REALLY well.

    For years I used a 6" travel Reign for XC and DH. I just changed out the pedals for flats when I hit the resorts, otherwise the same bike did well for everything.

    I haven't been to the resorts in a long time, so maybe take my experiences with a grain of salt. These pics are from 05/06'
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    awesome pics man!!!! Is that a Reign, or a Reign X. I have Both and Love my 6" Reign, but the X has the 67 degree tube vs the 69. so maybe better for downhill? Do you by chance know what the bike in the pics is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpin Johnny View Post
    awesome pics man!!!! Is that a Reign, or a Reign X. I have Both and Love my 6" Reign, but the X has the 67 degree tube vs the 69. so maybe better for downhill? Do you by chance know what the bike in the pics is?
    By 2010 the Reign was down to 68 - they slacked it out even more in 2011 to 67.5.

    The Trance-SX, which is the current 6" AM sled, is at 66 (it's actually slacker than the new Reign-X). The lines are blurring...

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    Thanks. It's a 05' Reign frame with all custom parts. I put a lyric 160mm fork on it which slacked it out some, but also raised the bottom bracket (too high!!). I was looking to swap it out for an X frame, but I started a family instead.

    Must be nice to have the choice between either Reign

    I'd love to have that bronze/gold anno Reign X frame. Reminds me of that 80's aluminum SE racing BMX that I lusted after as a kid.
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    Sweet!! we have the same Bike. My Reign is an 05' as well. possibly 06 but its the exact same color too. I too pimped her out with mostly Shimano components, and am going for a Talas RLC fork to complete her. with the adjustable seat post, it feels like its the ultimate All around bike. It actually makes my 08 Reign XO seem pointless to have. Basically two of the same bike. I think it might be a good idea too sell the XO, and buy a more dh specific rig for when we go out west, and keep Beyonce ( the 05 reign) for around here. hmmmmmmmm

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    IIRC there was a mod for the early reigns to get 6.7" of travel. Basically you had to replace the shock with another with the same i-2-i but slightly longer stoke.

    They are great for the fast, steep front range trails. Now that I live up in the mountains, it might be overkill for trail riding and underkill for the resorts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve71 View Post
    IIRC there was a mod for the early reigns to get 6.7" of travel. Basically you had to replace the shock with another with the same i-2-i but slightly longer stoke.
    I'm pretty sure you could do this with *all* the Reigns - up to the most recent. I think the pierced-DT models limited the shocks you could use due to the issue with the piggyback on a lot of shocks hitting the frame. I got a coil Fox Van to up my travel to 6.7" (7.875x2.25)... but more importantly - to get rid of that $HIT Fox DHX air can...

    They are great for the fast, steep front range trails. Now that I live up in the mountains, it might be overkill for trail riding and underkill for the resorts.
    No way.
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    Good to know SS. I had my fox air shock doctored by PUSH to good effect, but I think a coil would have been better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    I'd suggest you look at the Trance-SX (Reign replacement) and Trance-X as well from the new Giant offerings. Might be more suitable as an all-around for someone that spends most of their riding time in the Midwest.
    Ditto on the Trance SX, demo'd one last month on a trip to CA, bike was very fun to ride, low, light & slack too. Almost as good as my Enduro : 0

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    I'm going to tell you all a story about a guy named WKD-RDR.

    A few years ago he went with myself and SylentK to Keystone for the 1st time with his ReignX. SylentK and I were on full DH bikes. While WKD was able to ride all the trails he noticed something...Ryan and I were going far faster and having more fun.

    Fast forward a few years. WK-RDR and I went to Whistler. He's on a full DH bike. Ear to ear grins.

    So do you NEED a DH bike? No...but is it more fun because you can go way g0d damn faster? Yeah. It is. Rent a real DH bike. Got to WP, Keystone, and Vail. Shit, PM me and I may show you around Vail.
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    Ithnu - spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithnu View Post
    I'm going to tell you all a story about a guy named WKD-RDR.

    A few years ago he went with myself and SylentK to Keystone for the 1st time with his ReignX. SylentK and I were on full DH bikes. While WKD was able to ride all the trails he noticed something...Ryan and I were going far faster and having more fun.

    Fast forward a few years. WK-RDR and I went to Whistler. He's on a full DH bike. Ear to ear grins.

    So do you NEED a DH bike? No...but is it more fun because you can go way g0d damn faster? Yeah. It is. Rent a real DH bike. Got to WP, Keystone, and Vail. Shit, PM me and I may show you around Vail.
    This is pretty much the same story you will hear over and over again. Most of started on our trail bikes on DH runs and had a blast, but our bikes got beat to $hit.. When we got on our first true DH bike, it was pure bliss...
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    Just passed the proposition through the wife. Will probably be going to WP this Aug for a week for a trip.

    A day ago I ran into someone at work who just moved out East from Colorado and she explained that the WP area would make for a good family summer trip as she and he kids spent a lot of time there.

    Got to start planning for not only myself but also for my wife and two kids. My wife and boy are fishing fanatics and we are all into hiking and camping. They all mountain bike as well. We'd probably rent a hotel room first family trip out to learn the lay of the land, then possible future trips we would rough it camping.

    Looks like right outside of WP there should be enough outside stuff to keep everyone busy and happy.

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    DH tires help to close the gap between a long travel trail bike and a DH bike.

    I always ran a tubeless 2.8 Comp 32 (19 psi) on the front of my reign and a 2.4 on the rear, even for front range XC.
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    To the OP, you asked for advice and for near unanimous advice to rent a bike. Why ignore that? Bike forums never agree so you should probably pay attention when they actually do. Rent a DH bike and gear then buy a proper xc bike for home. If you are on a budget this makes even more sense!

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    It sounds like you're looking for some justification to buy a new bike. Honestly, not to beat a dead horse here, but if you're really in the market for a bike, I'd buy one that is awesome for the riding that you typically do, and bring it along to ride xc trails in between park days. Most riders that I know in CO have daily drivers in the 4-5.75inch suspension range regularly. I can't imagine anything in St. Louis that would require 6.7 inches, but then I haven't ridden there. Maybe it's way moar gnar than CO terrain.

    Rent at the parks. Seriously. (I know you're probably ignoring this, but maybe it will sink in at some point) Most rental packages will include the gear that you keep asking about, knee/shin pads, jacket, f/f helmet. (Leatts are typically extra.) Those bikes are built for the kind of riding that you will be doing, and if you trash it, you're not forking out a ton of money to the local shop for repairs.

    A 6 inch travel bike would be fine for most things at Winter Park Resort, but you could easily trash your brand new suspension, wheels, and tires, among other things. And unless you're riding all green trails, you will want something beefier at Keystone and Sol Vista. The terrain is much bigger. The only way to not trash your rig will be to stay on more moderate trails, which kind of defeats the whole point of going to a park, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiMtb View Post
    It sounds like you're looking for some justification to buy a new bike. Honestly, not to beat a dead horse here, but if you're really in the market for a bike, I'd buy one that is awesome for the riding that you typically do, and bring it along to ride xc trails in between park days. Most riders that I know in CO have daily drivers in the 4-5.75inch suspension range regularly. I can't imagine anything in St. Louis that would require 6.7 inches, but then I haven't ridden there. Maybe it's way moar gnar than CO terrain.

    Rent at the parks. Seriously. (I know you're probably ignoring this, but maybe it will sink in at some point) Most rental packages will include the gear that you keep asking about, knee/shin pads, jacket, f/f helmet. (Leatts are typically extra.) Those bikes are built for the kind of riding that you will be doing, and if you trash it, you're not forking out a ton of money to the local shop for repairs.

    A 6 inch travel bike would be fine for most things at Winter Park Resort, but you could easily trash your brand new suspension, wheels, and tires, among other things. And unless you're riding all green trails, you will want something beefier at Keystone and Sol Vista. The terrain is much bigger. The only way to not trash your rig will be to stay on more moderate trails, which kind of defeats the whole point of going to a park, imo.
    Sorry been gone a while, I meant to update this post.

    Yes I agree with what you are saying above. I'm not looking for justifying a bike purchase perse, I simply need a new bike this year. My Giant Yukon is about 6 years old now and had been beat up on almost all of the STL trails. I actually snapped my chain yesterday and tore my calf up nicely on the crank gear lol. SO besides components it now needs a new chain too lol.

    I just bought a 2012 Giant Trance X W with Upgraded Elixir 7 Brakes for my wife a few days ago...i got a really good deal so I could not pass it up. My wife and I are going to Moab this year to ride so she needed it. She absolutely loves it ( upgraded from a Giant Boulder HT so she was pretty stoked about it).

    This has slowed down my bike purchase a bit but I still need to find the best bike for myself sooner than later. Hopefully tax time is here and guy will off load their old models for a new bike, hoping to score a good deal...

    Since purchasing my wife the Giant Trance X W, I love the looks of the Giant Trance X men's bike, but not sure if 5" is enough for me so I thought about looking at some Reigns with 6" of travel but still unsure.

    I'm pretty lost right now on what to buy myself but , i'll figure it out eventually with a little more help and research.

    In the end though, I plan to buy myself a new to me (lightly used) bike (bring it with me to ride XC and possibly some Trestle) and also rent for a few days to experience the DH bikes (everyone happy? lol).

    Thanks for the help so far guys!

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    I haven;t found one yet, but I have been looking into a 2011 Giant Reign 1

    What do you all think about that and WHERE is the best place to locate one? Any specific bike sale sites, checked e-bay and Craigslist but can;t really locate one right now.

    Any feedback on this bike, I figure 6" of travel, still climbs well, might be my best bet?

    IF anyone can help me locate a SIZE MEDIUM, please let me know.

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    is.... pinkbike a good place to buy from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUCD VPR View Post
    I haven;t found one yet, but I have been looking into a 2011 Giant Reign 1

    What do you all think about that and WHERE is the best place to locate one? Any specific bike sale sites, checked e-bay and Craigslist but can;t really locate one right now.

    Any feedback on this bike, I figure 6" of travel, still climbs well, might be my best bet?

    IF anyone can help me locate a SIZE MEDIUM, please let me know.
    I've got a 2010 Reign 1 - it is a great "all-around" mountain bike, IMO. You should be able to get away with riding resorts with it. I still think it would be overkill for riding in STL. But you know the area better than I do...

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    I think a 6" travel Reign would be a good compromise if you only have 1 bike. I have a 5" Stumpjumper and an 8" Demo8. But if I had to narrow it to one the Reign would be on my list. Or a Specialized Enduro, SC Nomad, Intense Carbine,...blah blah blah.

    Some friends of mine like Pinkbike; I've had good luck locally with craigslist. Well with bikes on CL; cameras, iPhones, etc ends up with douche bags.
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    Is $1600 a good price for the 2011 Giant Reign 1? I am close to pulling the trigger on the deal but I don't want to over pay for a 2011. Has a single crank on it, (comes with stock stuff in a box) better handlebars etc. Rebuilt shocks also. Looks like it is in really nice shape, just a little wear on the chain area and a few scratches here and there but he says it's solid. He won't BUDGE on this price so i'm either buying it or walking away $1600 + Shipping of about $80-100. So i'd be in it 1690-1700?

    Quick advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUCD VPR View Post
    Is $1600 a good price for the 2011 Giant Reign 1? I am close to pulling the trigger on the deal but I don't want to over pay for a 2011. Has a single crank on it, (comes with stock stuff in a box) better handlebars etc. Rebuilt shocks also. Looks like it is in really nice shape, just a little wear on the chain area and a few scratches here and there but he says it's solid. He won't BUDGE on this price so i'm either buying it or walking away $1600 + Shipping of about $80-100. So i'd be in it 1690-1700?

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    Uhh... you'll want to make sure you have *2* cranks. One would be hard to pedal.

    You should do a country-wide search of Craigslist as well as Ebay to get an idea of what 2011 Reign-1s are going for.

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    3 year old bike, $1,600 is fair. He knows it and that's why he isn't budging.
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    Sorry I meant the ring, not the crank arm lol. He has the stock components also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithnu View Post
    3 year old bike, $1,600 is fair. He knows it and that's why he isn't budging.
    Thanks. I think I'm going to pull the trigger on it.

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    Deal is done. 2011 Giant Reign 1 (silver/blue frame). It'll be shipping to me Monday. I'm pumped!

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    Congrats on the new bike! Definitely get yourself the biggest two ply (DH) tires that will fit. Tubeless is best, otherwise get some thick tubes. The rocks here will eat up tubes, tires and rims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve71 View Post
    Congrats on the new bike! Definitely get yourself the biggest two ply (DH) tires that will fit. Tubeless is best, otherwise get some thick tubes. The rocks here will eat up tubes, tires and rims.
    thanks Steve!

    Do you have any suggestions on the two ply DH tires?

    It currently has brand new Michelin wild grip R advanced technology tires, Race Face narrow wide blue chainring, shimano xt shadow plus rear derailler, Answer Pro AM 720 bars and Oury grips. A
    He's also including all of the stock components.

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    JUCD VPR: What riding are you doing around St Louis besides Castlewood? My parents live there, and I'm always looking for decent riding when I visit.

    As far as the advice on what to do when you come here, Ithnu pretty much said what I would have said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtg7aa View Post
    JUCD VPR: What riding are you doing around St Louis besides Castlewood? My parents live there, and I'm always looking for decent riding when I visit.

    As far as the advice on what to do when you come here, Ithnu pretty much said what I would have said.
    GORC is a great site for all of the trails around the ST. Louis area. Check out the Midwest section on here.

    Trails I recommend:
    KONDIKE State Park out by Defiance Missouri. Lots f fun.
    Matson Hill is close to Klondike also.
    The Chubb Trail - Before Eureka MO (Enter Near Tyson Park, Pass one Elk Park)
    Greens Felder is near Eureka, MO "Six Flag's area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUCD VPR View Post
    Do you have any suggestions on the two ply DH tires?
    DH tires get very expensive, kind of ridiculous actually. You might be able to find some on CL when you get here. For example here's a recent one: Maxxis Minion DHR II and DHF (Brand New) That's basically 1/2 price. Or ask for some used ones at the resort shop. But for riding the resorts they will make a HUGE difference.

    Recommendations...to each their own. But most folks I ride with run Maxxis or Schwalbe for brand. Of that mostly Maxxis Minions; which are my favorite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithnu View Post
    DH tires get very expensive, kind of ridiculous actually. You might be able to find some on CL when you get here. For example here's a recent one: Maxxis Minion DHR II and DHF (Brand New) That's basically 1/2 price. Or ask for some used ones at the resort shop. But for riding the resorts they will make a HUGE difference.

    Recommendations...to each their own. But most folks I ride with run Maxxis or Schwalbe for brand. Of that mostly Maxxis Minions; which are my favorite.
    Thanks for the info, i am going to go with the Maxxis Minions. I appreciate the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUCD VPR View Post
    Thanks for the info, i am going to go with the Maxxis Minions. I appreciate the help.
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    Is there a trail that you guys would say we SHOULD NOT MISS while we are in Colorado? We don't care about a little driving. Any recommendations?

    Lenawee Pass?
    Georgia Pass to Middlefork?

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    At Vail I love Magic Forest to Old 9 line. The old '94 Worlds is fun too. At Keystone Mosquito coast to Wild Thing. Single track where you climb; I rode 2 Elks from Vail pass to Minturn for the first time last year and was blown away by the scenery.

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