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    Palmer park map?

    I think the city had to work at it to map those trailhead maps as bad as they are. Come on folks, I know someone has to have run a GPS out there by now.

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    There is a really nice map you can buy at any bike shop in c. springs, the trails are laid over a aerial photo. I don't have it, just seen it.

    Its not like you really need one there anyway. Just pick trails that look good and ride til you find the next one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icegeek
    I think the city had to work at it to map those trailhead maps as bad as they are. Come on folks, I know someone has to have run a GPS out there by now.
    Oh come on, don't you NEED four different versions of the map on each trail head to show you green, blue and black trails??? And I love the trail intersection signs that list Templeton as green and the lame stuff on top as black--I wonder how much blood those have caused...

    If someone has run GPS, please don't post it if it has anything of "questionable" legality on it (or better yet, please don't post anything). Ice, I would be happy to show you around any Sunday after this Sunday (going skiing). I could do an after work ride too, but that hardly seems worth it for the drive down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kristian
    Oh come on, don't you NEED four different versions of the map on each trail head to show you green, blue and black trails??? And I love the trail intersection signs that list Templeton as green and the lame stuff on top as black--I wonder how much blood those have caused...

    If someone has run GPS, please don't post it if it has anything of "questionable" legality on it (or better yet, please don't post anything). Ice, I would be happy to show you around any Sunday after this Sunday (going skiing). I could do an after work ride too, but that hardly seems worth it for the drive down.

    looking at the trailhead maps the other day was pretty much useless. yeah, we need more kristian guiding service for down there.

    hoping to hit down there, and more shuttle stuff this spring/summer/fall around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrublover
    looking at the trailhead maps the other day was pretty much useless. yeah, we need more kristian guiding service for down there.

    hoping to hit down there, and more shuttle stuff this spring/summer/fall around.
    ding ding ding! The trailhead maps are useless. As soon as you get into the trail nothing makes sense. Following Kristan and the others down there was the only way I kept from getting lost. Tried to take my dad out there and rode the most miserable excuse for a loop I have ever seen (completely my fault for not knowing where anything was). And I even stopped into Performance to get a map. They looked at me like I was crazy.

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    i too would be willing to guide anyone around the park. ust hit up the pm's if you want to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrontRanger
    . Following Kristan and the others down there was the only way........
    yep, or another local. i've not been down there often enough (and with long stretches between times) to get a great handle on some of it. i've got a few of the spots dialled, but after a bit, i get myself lost.

    i guess i just need to get down there more often!
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    If you have a trails.com membership, they have a pretty decent map available. If not, they usually have a trial option that will allow you to download 3 trail guides and 5 topo maps. I carry the map included in the trail guide with me. It isn't entirely accurate, but its kept me from getting lost more than once.

    However, the best way to learn the trails is to ride with someone who actually knows them. And then go back out and ride them on your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrublover
    looking at the trailhead maps the other day was pretty much useless. yeah, we need more kristian guiding service for down there.

    hoping to hit down there, and more shuttle stuff this spring/summer/fall around.
    Let me know when you're coming down--I'm usually up for a guide. The problem with maps is that there are so many intersections. If you really wanted to put together a good loop, you would spend half of your time pulling the map out, checking to see if the intersection you are at is somewhere you want to turn and then putting your map back.

    It's a better idea to simply follow your nose and pick trails randomly--it's not like you can get lost in the park (for more than 5-10 minutes at a time).

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    I think most locals are the same way, we don't know the name of the trails mostly, just the different routes. There are basicly lower and upper trails that circle the entire park, you could do a full loop around the park up top on Temp. or take lower routes that are less rocky/techy. A lot of the *features* are off the lower trails but Temp. is more techy overall.

    I would be happy to show pep's around also if K isn't available or bikeC. I might be around this weekend too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kristian
    Let me know when you're coming down--I'm usually up for a guide. The problem with maps is that there are so many intersections. If you really wanted to put together a good loop, you would spend half of your time pulling the map out, checking to see if the intersection you are at is somewhere you want to turn and then putting your map back.

    It's a better idea to simply follow your nose and pick trails randomly--it's not like you can get lost in the park (for more than 5-10 minutes at a time).
    Did you get out Tues?, sorry I missed it, I did get the fork on the Foes though, much better feel than the Z150

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    Now that looks like a fun ride, can I try it.
    Seats kind of high for you though

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    Did you get out Tues?, sorry I missed it, I did get the fork on the Foes though, much better feel than the Z150
    Sweet!!! I'm curious to see what they do with the 07 z1, but I'm betting that they either drop it from the line up, or they keep it half air/half coil. In that case, you have the last TRUE z1 ever made .

    I did get out on Tuesday and had a blast. I was riding like crap for the first half of the ride, but things turned around once I got to the upper rim. What a great after work workout!

    If you (or anyone else) can make it, I'm going to do a standing Tuesday, 4:30 @ the bathrooms ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOEMTBR COLORADO
    Now that looks like a fun ride, can I try it.
    Seats kind of high for you though
    Absolutely, it might be a little big for you but your welcome to ride it whenever, your Blur LT should be pretty similiar as far as travel/geometry. The seat is actually in the middle position in that shot, I run it a good 2" higher for regular trail rides and in the canyon while climbing to get full leg extension, that's my techy/DH position and it will lower another 2" or so when I need to.

    K- I will definitely make some of those Tues rides, probably next Tues too.

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    Kristian I will try to remember to meet on Tuesdays...Maybe you should post another thread to that effect...

    I don't have a map. I do have pictures of the maps they have at the Yucca parking trailhead that I could post late tonight...

    Most of the trails I ride aren't on the map anyways...

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    I do have the map but I can't post it as there are some kind of laws written that I may have a problem with.

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    Now that I've seen the map... it all makes so much better sense now. So, which direction do people like ride Templeton? I'm thinking CW.

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    Either way is doable...I believe CW is easier...but I like them both...

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    Quote Originally Posted by icegeek
    Now that I've seen the map... it all makes so much better sense now. So, which direction do people like ride Templeton? I'm thinking CW.
    I like it both ways! I can clean more of the climbs clockwise but it feels like there are more downhills if you do it CCW. I ride it CW 85% of the time if I'm by myself. For a real killer ride do it both ways in the same ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kristian
    If you (or anyone else) can make it, I'm going to do a standing Tuesday, 4:30 @ the bathrooms ride.
    I may be interested, you should do everyother week on the west side(cheyenne, section 16, Red Rocks, etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiMana
    I may be interested, you should do everyother week on the west side(cheyenne, section 16, Red Rocks, etc.)
    Last weekend we did buckhorn/666/palmer/sec 16/intemann/red rocks back to town- good mix of XC riding and some tech, and a long ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiMana
    I may be interested, you should do everyother week on the west side(cheyenne, section 16, Red Rocks, etc.)
    I would be up for that, but I can't make it to the west side by 4:30. 4:45 on those days? Maybe I'll start a new thread...

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    I would say Temp. is more difficult going CCW cause it seems like there are more tough up sections, more walking, CW has more down sections that are tough but only a few spots that are hard to make going up.

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    I don't know rroeder, CW seems to have all the techy climbs and stairs, especially on the West side of Temp, but going counter clockwise for me is harder as there are more drops and technical sections I just can't mentally get over, as I proved the last time we rode, and I missed the whole SW section of the trail

    My two cents worth.

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    Riding in C.Springs on Sat. 4/8

    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    I would be happy to show pep's around also if K isn't available or bikeC. I might be around this weekend too.
    I also posted this over on Technical Trail Poll thread... Email or PM me!

    OK, I'm having some sort of Pavlovian response... I'm gonna come down with a friend on Saturday morning, and would love to hook up with someone local for a few techfest hours at Palmer. In the afternoon, I'd like to go check out Captain Jacks if I'm not too injured and worked. I've heard it's great riding too. Anybody interested in meeting up? Say around 9ish? I won't be online/available tomorrow during the day (Vail Pow-Pow!), but I'll check back tonight and tomorrow night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_G
    I also posted this over on Technical Trail Poll thread... Email or PM me!

    OK, I'm having some sort of Pavlovian response... I'm gonna come down with a friend on Saturday morning, and would love to hook up with someone local for a few techfest hours at Palmer. In the afternoon, I'd like to go check out Captain Jacks if I'm not too injured and worked. I've heard it's great riding too. Anybody interested in meeting up? Say around 9ish? I won't be online/available tomorrow during the day (Vail Pow-Pow!), but I'll check back tonight and tomorrow night.

    Cheers,
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    Well, were getting some rain/snow this morning on the north end, not sure about palmer. If the park gets some moisture it could be messy in spots tomm. but most likely will be OK, lets see what happens today. The canyon will be good and even better the more moisture we get, thats where CJ's is. There's another option if your interested we might be looking at for tomm., PM me when you get home today from your pow fest

    Any other locals interested?
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    how about a sunday morning? any locals want to guide a northern contingent coming down to explore? not sure time wise yet, but around 10am at a guess.
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    Good job! Weather Update

    It's 10:30 and downtown and Palmer Park are dry, I can see Cheyenne perfectly so I am betting this storm will stay north.
    Saturday morning should be perfect!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrublover
    how about a sunday morning? any locals want to guide a northern contingent coming down to explore? not sure time wise yet, but around 10am at a guess.
    We might ski on Saturday, in which case I would be up for a (slow paced) ride Sunday morning. I will keep an eye on this thread and post Saturday if I am going to be around Sunday.

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    I'm down for a sunday ride as well

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    Kristian - with all the snow just dumped and the temps rising over then next days tomorrow is the day to SKI!...I will be at Keystone or ABasin...

    I would like to ride on Sunday as well...Templeton sounds great! Both directions at the same time...

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    Yes, tomorrow is a ski day, a 3 pin grin day. I'm down with hitting Palmer Sunday. Both directions on Temp sound good, but maybe one after the other.

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    OK, I'm doing a ride in the canyon tomm. so I'm in Sunday

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    Well, someone needs to call a time for Sunday, so how about noon? Discuss.

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    Alright, I didn't go skiing...

    Sunday at 10am sounds good...at the crappers near the stables...

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    [QUOTE=kchri]Kristian - with all the snow just dumped and the temps rising over then next days tomorrow is the day to SKI!...I will be at Keystone or ABasin...
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    Yeah, that would be the logical thing to do, but we were entertaining last night and didn't get the ski sh!t together in time to make it up there today. Looks like prime "spring" conditions tomorrow though and hopefully less crowds. Sorry to have to bail--have fun everyone!

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