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    OT-Shoulder specialist

    So, due to this ride:
    "It's all totally rideable, bro." - A high country adventure
    and my own stupidity, I need to see a shoulder specialist.
    Was going to go to Panorama, but don't see one on their site.
    Any good recommendations in Golden and/or NW Denver?
    Guess I should search, but what fun is that?
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    shoulder docs

    Eric Stahl at Panorama is supposed to be good. I went to Peter Millet at Steadman Hawkins in Vail for an allograft reconstruction of my AC joint. He fixed it really well. I can do everything except play frisbee golf, which I wouldn't do anyway

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    What did you do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndecentExposure View Post
    What did you do?


    Augured lawn-dart style into the Earf chasing SS and WKD-RDR down a nasty 4x4 trail. Andy, A fella named Stull at Colorado Ortho worked on my last collarbone, he's pretty good. Martin Boublik at Steadman/Hawkins fixed my first collarbone, he's pretty good as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Full Trucker View Post
    Martin Boublik at Steadman/Hawkins fixed my first collarbone, he's pretty good as well.
    I just saw Boublik for a torn bicep a month or two ago. He could have recommended surgery to repair it and make the quick cash but he recommended not doing anything besides some therapy. I have been doing fine, just have the popeye arm thing going on. Seems like a good doctor. I think he is the Broncos team doc also.

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    I went to Boublik in January for my knee surgery.
    I really liked him as a person, and he seemingly did a fine job surgically.
    He was impessed by some of the alien-like loose bodies I had growing in there.
    How about you?




    But, made an appt with Stahl at Panorama for Thurs.
    Due to a couple rec's, (including jay dee - thanks), and closer to home.
    Thanks all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Full Trucker View Post


    Augured lawn-dart style into the Earf chasing SS and WKD-RDR down a nasty 4x4 trail. Andy, A fella named Stull at Colorado Ortho worked on my last collarbone, he's pretty good. Martin Boublik at Steadman/Hawkins fixed my first collarbone, he's pretty good as well.
    Considering the crashee in question it was more like this:




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    Quote Originally Posted by bad andy! View Post
    I went to Boublik in January for my knee surgery.
    I really liked him as a person, and he seemingly did a fine job surgically.
    He was impessed by some of the alien-like loose bodies I had growing in there.
    How about you?



    That is nasty looking. Those were in your knee?

    BTW I'm having a different doctor at Steadman do a knee replacement this fall. Maybe I'll keep the old joint so I can outdo those nasty things.

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    Dr. H. Andrew Motz did my shoulder. and my knee. and my shoulder...again (not his fault). He is a great guy, does awesome work:

    Advanced Orthopedic and Sports Medicine Specialists, P.C. Orthopaedic Surgeons Denver Colorado

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    that sucks - heal up fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Full Trucker View Post


    Augured lawn-dart style into the Earf .

    Andy-This sounds a lot like what happened to me when you and I went to Hall with FT except I somehow made a recovery. Moral of the story, don't ride with FT.

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    , A fella named Stull at Colorado Ortho worked on my last collarbone, he's pretty good. Martin Boublik at Steadman/Hawkins fixed my first collarbone, he's pretty good as well.[/QUOTE]

    Stull fixed my collarbone as well. It was good work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Considering the crashee in question it was more like this:




    THAT made me laugh! Thanks, bacon man! Heal Fast, Andy! However, when my shoulder hit the ground at high speed several years ago, like Kosayno, I let it 'heal' on it's own after talking with a couple of doctors who felt that I didn't need to do anything surgery-wise. Seems fine now except every now and then it will make a popping sound. Full movement and strength tho. Good Luck!
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    Andy-
    sucks about your wing.
    Stahl is good, but you have to consider what you're giving him to work with
    Heal fast, bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by russman View Post
    Dr. H. Andrew Motz did my shoulder. and my knee. and my shoulder...again (not his fault). He is a great guy, does awesome work:

    Advanced Orthopedic and Sports Medicine Specialists, P.C. Orthopaedic Surgeons Denver Colorado

    R
    Dr. Motz did the better of my 2 knees, too. He did a great job, and I should probably have him look at my shoulder someday, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad andy
    I need to see a shoulder specialist. Was going to go to Panorama, but don't see one on their site.
    As noted, see Dr. Stahl at Panorama.

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    Well, Dr Stahl recommended 2-3 weeks rehab, then MRI after that, if not doing much better.
    It was feeling way better than my original appt with him, but mucho popping and grinding.
    MRI was last week.
    Results today.
    Badly torn rotator cuff - 2 tendons (supraspinatus, infraspinatus).
    He mentioned a couple different times he was surprised by how bad it was.
    They will be calling me late this week/early next week to schedule arthroscopic surgery - probably the week after next. Also gonna clean up some older AC joint issues. 4-6 week immobility, 6-8 month full recovery.



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    Suck it up, Princess.

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    only one beer at a time....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Suck it up, Princess.
    Already tried that...didn't work...whining is more fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad andy! View Post
    Already tried that...didn't work...whining is more fun.
    You make a good point...

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    Andy, good luck with your shoulder. I fell last March on the driveway taking the damn trash out (black ice) and I know something is messed up in there, but I'm just ignoring it for now. I'm an upper extremity therapist so I should know better, but still hoping for the best. I'm sure you will do fine, sounds like you really need surgery or you arm probably wouldn't ever be the same. Good thing winter is coming up so you don't miss too much biking. You do have a good surgeon, I've heard good things. Take care, happy rehab.

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    Shoulders are the worst. I suffered from severe dislocations on my left shoulder. I had Dr. Boublik from Steadman Hawkins sew(Full labrum tear) it back on a couple of years ago. I had the operation in the beginning of September and went snowboarding in February. Took it real easy. It took another 2 months of intense rehab to completely strengthen my shoulder. My left shoulder is now tigher than my right . It sucks but it is a good time to sit on a trainer.

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    Heal quick my brother.

    Don't go giving me doggy poo about the metaphysical BS but I will say that a copper bracelet has added a measure pain numbing qualities to my shoulder pain and the premature arthritis in my hand. Whether its in my head or the Bio-magnetic Hoodoo, I think you should give it a go. Just ignore it when your wrist turns green.

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    Andy - real bummer to hear about your shoulder.
    It's interesting that you tore both the supraspinatus and infraspinatus ... as opposing muscles, they are far more commonly torn due to excessive one-handed solo activity rather than crashing on your bike
    Hope your surgery goes well - you're in good hands.
    Remember, just as important as the skill of your surgeon is how hard you work at rehabing that shoulder afterward.
    Good vibes!
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