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    OT: Driving through Illinois w/Colorado Plates

    Just wanted to give everyone a heads up.

    I had to drive through Illinois on I-80 this week and was pulled over for having Colorado plates. They had the dog out within 4 minutes. As far as I could tell when the dog circled the car twice it didn't do anything to indicate a hit, but they still searched the trunk. When I was in the cop car the cop kept asking me if I had any Medical Marijuana in the car, which I didn't but it was a rental so who knows what the last person had in it. Once they finished I was let go with a warning for going 6 miles over the speed limit.

    I was pulled over again 10 minutes later. The cop immediately asked when was the last time I was pulled over? I told him I was just profiled as a drug runner 5 minutes ago and had the car searched and he immediately let me go.

    So be careful driving through that state. There is a chance you will get profiled because of your Colorado plates.

    Also I don't have a criminal record, any points on my license, or a medical marijuana card and my wife and dog were also in the car.

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    I'm from Illinois and I can tell you the cops suck a*s in that state. At least in the Chicago area. They are way worse on speed traps in the Chicago area then Colorado and due to insane levels of government spending rely heavily on the resulting revenue. Taxes are high in Illinois too. I've glad to be out of that place.

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    gotta love illinois- hope you enjoyed the tolls too . you might have lucked out since 80 isn't a tollway.
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    Yeah I love how the Illinois government said that once the express ways (they can't be called free ways since they aren't free) were paid for, the tolls would go away. But by that time the government was so addicted to the revenue, they have instead been raising tolls ever since. There will be no new free ways in Northern Illinois. They will always end up being toll ways.

    The corruption and price gauging of the Illinois Tollway authority is unparalleled. They have their own Tajmahal. The only good thing is they do plow snow off the tollways faster and much more thoroughly in Northern Illinois then anywhere in Colorado.

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    Same thing always happens to me driving through Nebraska!

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    This thread makes me wanna post some of my hitchhiking stories....

    I was hitchin thru the panhandle of Texas once, was dropped off at mile marker 4, walked to some town called Allenreed, could not for the life of me get a ride, so I continued down the highway, pretty much walked to Amarillo, and got a lift from a mexican driving a mini-van. Within 10 minutes of getting a lift, a k9 unit cop pulls along side of us, and just keep staring. I knew we were gonna get pulled over, and I hoped to god this guy had no drugs in his car. After 2 hours of the cops searching the car, and literally tearing this mans car up.. they had some crazy devices that I had never seen before, like portable x ray machines or something.... it was strange, the cop asked who I was, what I was doing, and how I knew this guy, I told him, Im just a traveler, I have my backpack in the back seat, cops didnt even touch my stuff.l After finding nothing.. they just let us go. The man gave me a lift all the way to Cali. Coolest mexican I've ever met, owned a soccer store in LA, family, kids, just a very nice guy.

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    That's interesting... I wonder if having the US Navy plates would affect that at all?

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    I have family in the Chicago area not far from I-80. I'm not sure if its true but I'm told the area is seeing a lot of drug dealing along I-80 in Northwest Indiana. It is said that the drug dealers pull off to the side of roads and pretend to have car problems. Then someone meets them briefly to make an exchange, presumably drugs for money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2wheelsnotfour View Post
    Yeah I love how the Illinois government said that once the express ways (they can't be called free ways since they aren't free) were paid for, the tolls would go away. But by that time the government was so addicted to the revenue, they have instead been raising tolls ever since. There will be no new free ways in Northern Illinois. They will always end up being toll ways.

    The corruption and price gauging of the Illinois Tollway authority is unparalleled. They have their own Tajmahal. The only good thing is they do plow snow off the tollways faster and much more thoroughly in Northern Illinois then anywhere in Colorado.
    no joke...and the tolls just doubled recently. looking forward to leaving this state- hopefully soon. that's why i vicariously live through the front rangers in this forum
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    Virtually the exact same thing happened to me in Iowa last year.

    They claimed my license plate frame was blocking too much of my plate. No kidding.

    Unless they have probable cause to arrest you, it's illegal for them to search you unless you consent.

    Most people consent to the search out of fear of the hassle. So they feel they can violate our rights at will, because they know most people won't stand up for themselves. It's sickening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MulletSlayer View Post
    Just wanted to give everyone a heads up.

    I had to drive through Illinois on I-80 this week and was pulled over for having Colorado plates. They had the dog out within 4 minutes. As far as I could tell when the dog circled the car twice it didn't do anything to indicate a hit, but they still searched the trunk. When I was in the cop car the cop kept asking me if I had any Medical Marijuana in the car, which I didn't but it was a rental so who knows what the last person had in it. Once they finished I was let go with a warning for going 6 miles over the speed limit.

    I was pulled over again 10 minutes later. The cop immediately asked when was the last time I was pulled over? I told him I was just profiled as a drug runner 5 minutes ago and had the car searched and he immediately let me go.

    So be careful driving through that state. There is a chance you will get profiled because of your Colorado plates.

    Also I don't have a criminal record, any points on my license, or a medical marijuana card and my wife and dog were also in the car.
    Wow, that's fascinating. My father was a judge in Kansas for half his life; we always talked about the issues of marijuana being legalized. Implications and the ramifications during the period of if being legalized. I never thought of the profiling aspects. What may be legal in Colorado isn't in other states, and you're not immune to local laws.

    This is a very serious issue (what you ran into) of profiling and civil rights (there's controversy surrounding it). You should absolutely go to Time, Newsweek, Washington Post, New York Times and contact the media. You may have been speeding, but they were probably looking for any reason to pull you over to search your car. I've been pulled over many times for speeding, but never once has anyone got a dog out to search the car. Media would be all over this.
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    I had a similar experience west of Chicago several years ago driving a car with temp tags. Cop was friendly and acted like it would be fun to come back to his car for a casual chat. I thought it was strange. I met his K9 partner and was on my way in about 10 minutes. It was a drug search. It was before MMJ but I-80 is a major route for drug smuggling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndecentExposure View Post
    Wow, that's fascinating. My father was a judge in Kansas for half his life; we always talked about the issues of marijuana being legalized. Implications and the ramifications during the period of if being legalized. I never thought of the profiling aspects. What may be legal in Colorado isn't in other states, and you're not immune to local laws.

    This is a very serious issue (what you ran into) of profiling and civil rights (there's controversy surrounding it). You should absolutely go to Time, Newsweek, Washington Post, New York Times and contact the media. You may have been speeding, but they were probably looking for any reason to pull you over to search your car. I've been pulled over many times for speeding, but never once has anyone got a dog out to search the car. Media would be all over this.
    Lulz. The media doesn't care about the profiling of pot heads.

    They have been doing this for years and people let them search their cars. Most LEO's became LEO's for a reason and bullying is something they enjoy. Know and excercise your rights.

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    May as well say this

    Cops in other states have a profile filter. Here's what your license plate really says
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    My problem with Illinois cops in the Chicago area is their preoccupation with doling out speeding tickets rather then confronting legitimate criminals. There are many areas which are essentially war zones due to drugs and gangs but instead of pulling those people over they harass the ordinary citizen. In my view its because the real criminals can actually be quite dangerous and driving around Chicagoland, I can assure you, you can pick out the people who likely up to no good. Regardless of one's view on so-called profiling, that's the reality in places like Chicagoland.

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    I'm from Indiana and still have family there. I drive through Illinois 2-3 times a year and have never been pulled over for anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2wheelsnotfour View Post
    <snip> They have their own Tajmahal.
    Jefferson County does too.

    The only good thing is they do plow snow off the tollways faster and much more thoroughly in Northern Illinois then anywhere in Colorado.
    Haven't been on the E470 Tollway recently in a snowstorm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndecentExposure View Post
    <snip> I've been pulled over many times for speeding, but never once has anyone got a dog out to search the car.
    You've never been subjected to the Utah Beer Dogs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChainChain View Post
    I had a similar experience west of Chicago several years ago driving a car with temp tags. Cop was friendly and acted like it would be fun to come back to his car for a casual chat. I thought it was strange. I met his K9 partner and was on my way in about 10 minutes. It was a drug search. It was before MMJ but I-80 is a major route for drug smuggling.
    This is exactly how it went. Then he started in on me having marijuana and then it hit me like a ton bricks what was about to go down. Then I started thinking keep your mouth shut because you can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride and I didn't want to take a ride.

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    I've been speaking specifically about Chicagoland. I'm curious, was this near Chicagoland or out west? The rural cops are bored. Near the city they have better things to do in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by concretejungle View Post
    Lulz. The media doesn't care about the profiling of pot heads.

    They have been doing this for years and people let them search their cars. Most LEO's became LEO's for a reason and bullying is something they enjoy. Know and excercise your rights.
    This.

    When was the last time the news played a story of somebody who was pulled over just because they were black, or because they were driving home after getting off work at 2am in a beat up car?

    Just watch cops on Fox- they pull people over all the time for minor speeding, a taillight out, a "dirty license plate", "driving funny", etc.- but the unspoken reason is because the "subjects" matched a profile.

    It isn't bad out here, but it was bad to be driving around in a cheaper car at night when I lived in Florida (not because of crime, but the cops).

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    Hey. The state is broke. Just askin for a little donation as you pass through. No harm in that.
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    Yeah it's pretty awesome when they put you in there car and your kids are freaking out!.

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    Oh ok. That's out in the boonies. Just some bored rural LOEs. It doesn't seem like what happened had to do with medicinal being legal in Colorado so much as they are watching for out of state people transporting product through the area. LOE in areas like that in Illinois really have little else to do.

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    I grew up just across the border from Illinois, there is a reason why we called them "Illinazis". I remember when I was a kid, my Dad was driving the family car and we got pulled over and ticketed for 56 MPH in a 55 MPH zone (in the right hand lane even) on the Interstate by one of their State ******bags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MulletSlayer View Post
    Just wanted to give everyone a heads up.

    I had to drive through Illinois on I-80 this week and was pulled over for having Colorado plates. They had the dog out within 4 minutes. As far as I could tell when the dog circled the car twice it didn't do anything to indicate a hit, but they still searched the trunk. When I was in the cop car the cop kept asking me if I had any Medical Marijuana in the car, which I didn't but it was a rental so who knows what the last person had in it. Once they finished I was let go with a warning for going 6 miles over the speed limit.

    I was pulled over again 10 minutes later. The cop immediately asked when was the last time I was pulled over? I told him I was just profiled as a drug runner 5 minutes ago and had the car searched and he immediately let me go.

    So be careful driving through that state. There is a chance you will get profiled because of your Colorado plates.

    Also I don't have a criminal record, any points on my license, or a medical marijuana card and my wife and dog were also in the car.
    Just read this about a week ago. Seems this is the IL troopers MO. Stop anyone without out of state plates hoping to hit the "jackpot"

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    My God, how pathetic. Those guys don't even remotely fit the profile of a drug user or transporter. This is like the TSA wanting to frisk grandma while ignoring persons who actually look suspicious. Perhaps those LEOs are fearful of people who actually look like criminals. I know I used to get that impression of LEOs in the Chicago area.

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    They do the same thing in MO. Except, the dog they had search our van was no older than 6 months.

    By the way, we were pulled over because the guy driving was going 10mph over the posted limit.

    Don't speed, don't get pulled over. Speeding is probable cause for them to search you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogbie View Post
    They do the same thing in MO. Except, the dog they had search our van was no older than 6 months.

    By the way, we were pulled over because the guy driving was going 10mph over the posted limit.

    Don't speed, don't get pulled over. Speeding is probable cause for them to search you.
    I don't think so. If I get pulled over and asked to be searched, my answer will be no.

    If they have probable cause, they won't bother asking. Of course, that includes fabricating probable cause by causing their dog to alert on command or the like....
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    It's called interdiction. It's done everywhere, and it's perfectly legal. Profiling is a tool and is legal, so long as it's not based solely on race. I-80 is a major drug trafficking route, as is I-25, I-70 et cetera. Know your rights. When the officers ask for consent, you can always say no. Without probable cause the officers can't legally search your car.

    Last time I drove I-80, I got a speeding ticket for 10 over. Seems to be a common theme.

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    You know your state is corrupt when 4 of the last 9 governors are in jail. I'd tread lightly in Illinois.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    I don't think so. If I get pulled over and asked to be searched, my answer will be no.

    If they have probable cause, they won't bother asking. Of course, that includes fabricating probable cause by causing their dog to alert on command or the like....
    You don't think we tried that? Stating your rights doesn't matter when the cop knows they have you over a barrel.

    In our situation, the officer opened the rear doors of the van, without asking if he could do so. Also, his first, and only--often repeated--question was, "When was the last time you smoked 'that ****' [marijuana]." The cop told us we could wait in the county jail until the judge issued a warrant to search the van; which, would be impounded. It was either, consent to the roadside search, or sit in jail for three days (this happened on a Friday afternoon). So, we waited for three hours next to a roadkill skunk while the cops led a puppy through our van and found nothing illegal. I suppose it was the smell of 5 guys on the last day of a 20 day tour through the midwest that might have smelled similar to pot to these gung-ho cops. They sure thought they had hit serious pay-dirt. They even voiced their disappointment at finding nothing. Note: they did not apologize for the waste of time and inconvenience of sitting next to roadkill. This was, also, on a state highway from Springfield, MO to Kansas City, MO.

    The lesson: don't give cops any reason to pull you over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogbie View Post
    They do the same thing in MO. Except, the dog they had search our van was no older than 6 months.

    By the way, we were pulled over because the guy driving was going 10mph over the posted limit.

    Don't speed, don't get pulled over. Speeding is probable cause for them to search you.
    You don't even need to be speeding.

    I've been pulled over for "weaving" by a Kansas State Trooper... at 8 AM on a sunny morning with no traffic after having gotten a good night of sleep, showered, coffee, breakfast, etc. I saw him before he saw me and I was driving exactly the speed limit, he even said so when I asked him whether I was speeding and what I did to get pulled over. He hesitated for a moment and said "he *thought* I *might* have been weaving" We were both pretty bored and he was a nice guy, so it was entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcrider View Post
    You know your state is corrupt when 4 of the last 9 governors are in jail. I'd tread lightly in Illinois.
    no joke. and taxes keep on increasing. it's a sad sad state.
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    I grew up just across the border from Illinois, there is a reason why we called them "Illinazis".
    I was wondering how long this thread would go without a "nazi" reference. lol

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    I like it when people say Illi-noise. So my parent's house went down in value somewhere in the area of 30%. What did the county do? They in acted an edict that homes would not be reassessed for the foreseeable future for tax purposes. So no one's property taxes went down at all and likely never will go down. The whole state of Illinois is f'ed up because Chicago controls the state and Chicago is full of people in favor of ever larger government.

    Now Blues Brothers. They are the best thing to come out of Illinois. I used to take a short cut near this old dilapidated mall when the area where 294 and 80 join backed up. Its in a pretty bad area, but hey, it was a short cut.

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    I blame Obama.

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    We can blame it on Blago. Actually in my opinion its not any single public service employee or elected official. Corruption is a deeply engrained culture throughout the public sector in Illinois which crosses party lines. Be wary of an politician coming from Illinois.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2wheelsnotfour View Post
    We can blame it on Blago. Actually in my opinion its not any single public service employee or elected official. Corruption is a deeply engrained culture throughout the public sector in Illinois which crosses party lines. Be wary of an politician coming from Illinois.

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    If I were him I'd shave my hair before I went in, too easy to be pulled from behind.

    Has there ever been a time when Chicago wasn't corrupt?

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    The news coverage in IL was crazy when Blago was on his way to prison in CO- interviews at ORD and then helicopter coverage of him being driven from DIA to Littleton. They even showed them circle the prison a couple times since they were early- even stopped at Freddy's for a patty melt.
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    I got pulled over in Boulder. They checked my truck inside and out. Couldn't find a damned thing. Finally, the cop gave me a couple joints and told me not to drive through Boulder without carrying at least a little something.

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    I had the misfortune of living in Illinois for 4 years. In that time I lost a significant part of my wealth to house depreciation and out of control excessive taxation. The traffic is unbelievable and the roads just suck.

    Still in all that time, either when I had WI plates or CO plates I did not get pulled over. My wife however was involved in an accident (another car slid into her while she was stopped at lights) and found out that she did not have the insurance card with her in the car at the time. The cop gave her a really hard time over that and my wife felt like she might have been arrested if it weren't for the fact that she had two young kids in the car at the time.

    IL sucks. Glad to be out of there.
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    Illinois does suck. Its a good demonstration of what happens with ever larger government. My parents house has dropped 30% in value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Short Bus View Post
    I was wondering how long this thread would go without an "Illinazi" reference. lol
    Fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2wheelsnotfour View Post
    Illinois does suck. Its a good demonstration of what happens with ever larger government. My parents house has dropped 30% in value.
    Your parents house value doesn't have anything to do with the government and everything to do with real estate being treated as a speculative commodity rather than homes for people to live in or buildings for businesses to occupy. Add that to shady banks willing to loan money to just about anyone because they immediately unloaded the loans to Wall Street who packaged all those bad loans into shady investment instruments. All this was enabled by markets that for some reason seemed to think you could build and build and build and prices would never come down.

    All things basically unregulated by the government.

    Rage on about the government all you want, but the housing bubble that burst and brought down the economy was a classic case of free markets running amuck. Boom and bust. It's what markets do when they act without restraint.

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