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    officer F#cker...

    I just got this email from one of my teammates, yes it was on the roads but how many of us never use the road to get to a trail?...

    'I wanted to send a warning to those that ride in Larimer County. I was riding with a friend yesterday morning when we were pulled over by a Larimer County Deputy (Larry Ficker ). We had been riding double but we were not impeding traffic. The deputy was hostile and first asked us if we knew the laws for cycling. Then he asked if we were from Boulder County. He asked us why we are riding in Larimer County when there are plenty of roads in Boulder County. He ran our IDís and then told us we had the choice to turn around and go back to Boulder or get a citation if we continued to ride in Larimer County. He stated several times that he does not appreciate people from Boulder choosing to ride in Larimer. If you are going to ride in Larimer with others make sure to ride single file or be prepared to get pulled over even if you are following the rules of the road. It appears that Larimer County does not want us there. I hope there will not be problems for the charity ride next weekend.'

    Thoughts??

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    He's just pissed his name is Ficker.

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    Wow, that was really unprofessional of that deputy. I would have your teammates file a formal complaint if they haven't already.

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    I am wondering if there aren't some pissed off people cause of the race last weekend.

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    If you're doing something illegal, then he should either ticket you, give you a warning, or remind you of the rules and send you on your way. Anything else is uncalled for and you should report his behavior to his superiors. I have no problem with cops enforcing the law, even when it doesn't turnout to my advantage, it's their job. Rousting anybody and telling them he doesn't like "Boulder people" riding in his country should not be tolerated.

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    http://bicyclecolo.org/page.cfm?pageID=27

    Two abreast is legal if not impeding traffic.

    They should contact the staff at Bicycle Colorado for assistance.

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    Sounds like a disgruntled cop and is totally out of line. It is not a cops job to express his opinion on where one should ride (unless it's safety issues) and providing consequences of ignoring his opinion.

    Don't let this slide-- file a complaint. Any kind of official documentation, if it doesn't help now, can help down the road if this occurs again with other officers or riders.

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    No way.

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    that's ficked up

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    I want to hear the other side of the story.
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    I'd be more surprised if you told me you actually met a cop that enforced the law impartially and treated you with respect as a tax paying citizen.

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    Is there a lycra law in larimar co?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    I want to hear the other side of the story.
    Yeah, me too. The OP is just a little over the top. Don't make me bring out the Bullsh!t Meter.

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    James A. Alderden, the Sheriff, would like to hear about this incident I'm sure.




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    Report Ficker to the county Sheriff! Can you prove you weren't impeding the flow of traffic? Can he prove that you were? It is legal to ride two abreast if you aren't impeding the flow of traffic.

    EDIT: Your account makes this sounds like someone just wanting to flex some muscle for some reason or another. Is there more to this? If this is it, don't let this go - report him. File a complaint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    I want to hear the other side of the story.
    feel free to give him a call and find out, be sure to let us know what he tells you. If they were impeding traffic he's got a right to enforce the law but I didn't think it was illegal to ride in another county and have some Uncle Ficker preach to you about playing in someone else's back yard

    There's really no 'other side' to the story, noone else was 'involved', there was no incident and no other party, just a cop with a power trip who was having a bad day, probably just found his best friend in bed with his wife and his sister (who happen to be the same woman)

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    Sweet! riding tadem on roads is lame, Single file all the way!



    Please pay your ticket promptly so he can hit his quota and keep enforcing such an awesome law!

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    Quote Originally Posted by longman
    feel free to give him a call and find out, be sure to let us know what he tells you. If they were impeding traffic he's got a right to enforce the law but I didn't think it was illegal to ride in another county and have some Uncle Ficker preach to you about playing in someone else's back yard

    There's really no 'other side' to the story, noone else was 'involved', there was no incident and no other party, just a cop with a power trip who was having a bad day, probably just found his best friend in bed with his wife and his sister (who happen to be the same woman)
    Man, you're right. I should just accept everything I read on the internet as the gospel and hop in line with everyone who doesn't consider that confrontation involves two parties and we've only read the highly biased view point of one. Silly me.

    Seriously though Longman, if I were in the position to give your buddy advice, it would be act constructively and talk to the department that Officer Ficker works for. I'd tell him to file a complaint if he feels he was treated so unlawfully, which from the letter you posted, sounds to be the case. In other words, I would imagine the department would be quite interested to learn of such an encounter. That would be opposed to the destructive alternative which would be to distribute a biased, emotion driven story to the public who will side with the cyclist because, well, we're cyclists too, and because it written so that there's a clear good and evil. Choosing to act on the later option will only create division between the two groups in conflict, but will do nothing about the officer if he was acting out of line.
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    I see the People's Republic of Boulder's reputation precedes its residents...

    If only there were an ocean it could fall into along with Californistan. I liked the Colorado I grew up in - the one the Beatles wouldn't return to.
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    There is no room for such reasonableness on the Internet...
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    Nickle is deputy Sheriff of the front range MTBR forum, and he doesn't like Boulder residents either

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    Lets see if your friend was riding double and a car (ie officer F#cker) came up behind them wouldn't that be impeding traffic?

    I honestly think some of the cyclists in Boulder have transformed the share the road mantra into the I'm a cyclist and therefore, I own the road. (try driving up the blind corners on lee hill behind some of these cyclists!) And yes, I do ride on the road myself, but I don't feel the need to ride abreast... flame away

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    This is gettin' good...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by edenger
    I honestly think some of the cyclists in Boulder have transformed the share the road mantra into the I'm a cyclist and therefore, I own the road. (try driving up the blind corners on lee hill behind some of these cyclists!) And yes, I do ride on the road myself, but I don't feel the need to ride abreast... flame away
    There's truth in that there statement.
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    Californistanians hate our freedoms

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    This forum is far more entertaining when the weather goes to poop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by athalliah
    This forum is far more entertaining when the weather goes to poop.
    Could one reason that when the weather is good, that poop is more entertaining than this forum?
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    Could one reason that when the weather is good, that poop is more entertaining than this forum?
    Poop is pretty entertaining, have you ever poked it with a stick before? One of favorite activities when Im out riding lol j/k

    Anyways I dont have a problem with people riding on the road until they are 3 or 4 abreast and wont go to single file, thats when the hand gets planted on the horn and the fists start shaking. Seems to happen every year with the elephant rock ride down here in Castle Rock. Talk about motorists not sharing the road, bicilists need to share it too. Driving up the hill to my house behind a bunch of cyclists going 10 mph kinda sucks.

    If your story about officer Ficker is actually the whole truth and nothing but the truth then he is a little ficker but it seems pretty biased to me.

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    While I cannot understand comments that are biased against bouldrites, It is perfectly legal to ride two abreast in colorado as long as you are not holding up traffic. The only thing is, what is traffic, and how do you know if you are holding it up?

    IMHO, one car behind two cyclists riding abreast is not traffic, so long as there is not a on comming auto that prevents the following car from safely moving to the center and passing within a short timeframe.

    As for Flicker, call his boss and complain, the squeaky wheel gets the oil, and if noone reports the poor attitude of the deputy, then noone will do anything about it in the future. For all we know, Flicker may have a history of being disrepctful to citizens, and the sherriff just needed one more report to take him off the road.

    Calling attention to this on a forum will not stop it from happening again.

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    I ride abreast as often as possible.
    Now with more vitriol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla
    I ride abreast as often as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla
    I ride abreast as often as possible.
    You prefer left or right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    Could one reason that when the weather is good, that poop is more entertaining than this forum?
    One could reason this regardless of weather

    On the abreast issue, the middle pos. is better than left or right

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    Quote Originally Posted by nOOby
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    Pesky 1st and 2nd amendments

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    Cool-blue Rhythm Single file you sticklers

    And yes most of the Boulderites that I have come across have their noises suck too dam far up their Audi tail pipes to ever notice they are doing anything wrong.

    Also this fourm is indeed much more fun when I walking around in 12 inches of thick snow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    On the abreast issue, the middle pos. is better than left or right
    Ahah!



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    This thread could become NSFW at any moment now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kchri
    This thread could become NSFW at any moment now...
    I knew discussion of the dialectic political facade is Un-Pc and verbotten at work in Californistan.... but now Colorado too?

    The Horror!
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    Quote Originally Posted by edenger
    I honestly think some of the cyclists in Boulder have transformed the share the road mantra into the I'm a cyclist and therefore, I own the road. (try driving up the blind corners on lee hill behind some of these cyclists!) And yes, I do ride on the road myself, but I don't feel the need to ride abreast... flame away
    Why single out Boulder? Ever been to a supported ride, ie Ride the Rockies, Elephant Rock, Triple Bypass? Most of these riders aren't from Boulder, and feel the need to ride 5 or six wide. I agree, single file is necessary, especially on blind corners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder

    On the abreast issue, the middle pos. is better than left or right
    You all worry about the hills and valleys, I'm going riding in the jungle.

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    Ohhh, I'm going to be in Larimer county over the 4th of july weekend, do you think Ofsifer D****head, I mean, F***ker, I mean, Focker, uhhhmmmm,whatever will pull me over for having these stickers on my rear window?
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    Can't read the FD NY on the far right.

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    I know some police cars have camera's that turn on and start recording when the officer turns on their lights. If he did that, it maybe recorded. File a complaint like everyone said, and do it before the evidence disappears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    You prefer left or right?
    I don't discriminate, right, left or center - I'm all about equal opportunity.
    Now with more vitriol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    Can't read the FD NY on the far right.
    just says in memory of sept. 11 2001
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    Why our roadies? Don't they all suck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers
    Yeah, me too. The OP is just a little over the top. Don't make me bring out the Bullsh!t Meter.
    Naw - this dude is real all right. He "pulled" me over about 10 years ago. I didn't come to a complete stop at a stop sign when turning right from 1 county road to another east of Fort Collins. Not a car for a mile in any direction. He also had another rider - some guy on a fixie that apprently did the same thing as me about 20 minuttes earlier. He had been reading the guy the riot act for 20 minutes when he jumped out in front of me and told me to stop. He proceeded to lecture the fixie guy for about 10 more minutes, then let him go and started in on me. I told him to arrest me or let me go cause I was about 4 hours into a ride and needed to get home. Bad move on my part and I realized it so I just shut up and let him yell at me for about 10 more minutes. Eventually he gave me the same comment about keeping off the roads, stay in town, blah, blah, blah. He's a nutjob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timroz
    Naw - this dude is real all right. He "pulled" me over about 10 years ago. I didn't come to a complete stop at a stop sign when turning right from 1 county road to another east of Fort Collins. Not a car for a mile in any direction. He also had another rider - some guy on a fixie that apprently did the same thing as me about 20 minuttes earlier. He had been reading the guy the riot act for 20 minutes when he jumped out in front of me and told me to stop. He proceeded to lecture the fixie guy for about 10 more minutes, then let him go and started in on me. I told him to arrest me or let me go cause I was about 4 hours into a ride and needed to get home. Bad move on my part and I realized it so I just shut up and let him yell at me for about 10 more minutes. Eventually he gave me the same comment about keeping off the roads, stay in town, blah, blah, blah. He's a nutjob.
    first of all there obviously was car within mile because the police officer was driving one and I doubt he saw you make the turn from a mile away lol j/k Second of all what does the riot act have to do with running a stop sign? It says nothing/has nothing to do with stop signs lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbkrid
    Ohhh, I'm going to be in Larimer county over the 4th of july weekend,
    Hmmm... I'd advise caution. Probably best to maintain a low profile. I suggest hiding your vehicle by parking it in a lot filled with high profile 4x4 trucks - especially those containing gun racks which would block the view through the windows.
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