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    New Trestle Trail Section - Rainmaker

    This is a yummy new section of the jump trail now called Rainmaker. Opens later this afternoon.
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    Wait, I thought the new trail was going to be called teabagger? j/k

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    is that wood feature a drop? and this trail looks sick! i hope to be able to hit it up tomorrow

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    Joel, can you call my boss & tell him I'll be sick tomorrow....

    I might have to do an afternoon session tomorrow, that looks great!
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    Holy berm Batman! I'll be out Sunday to enjoy the goodness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WINTERPARKDH23
    is that wood feature a drop? and this trail looks sick! i hope to be able to hit it up tomorrow
    No it's not quite done... it's a wooden tabletop.

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    Where is this bad boy exiting now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinkerjuarez
    Where is this bad boy exiting now?
    About 100' from where Long Trail comes out on the road...

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    We need action shots!!!! Need a rider in the air to get sense of scale!!!!

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    yup! yup!...opened 3 hours ago and with a bit of 'rain' it will 'make' this thing burn in sweet.

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    Berrrrrrms!
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    Mmmmmmmmmmmm.... Bermmmmmmmsssssssssss...

    I can't wait to get my foot back!
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    Any way we can just cancel the snow? Seriously, this park needs to stay open all year round.
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    So got the chance to ride Rainmaker today and what a blast! Yes I know I didn't clear most of the jumps but it was my first run down and still could use a few people + rain to help groom it in more but oh well got a video for people to see it anyway.
    <object width="400" height="300"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=13163846&amp;server=vimeo.co m&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_port rait=0&amp;color=&amp;fullscreen=1" /><embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=13163846&amp;server=vimeo.co m&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_port rait=0&amp;color=&amp;fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="300"></embed></object><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/13163846">Winter Parks new trail Rainmaker</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user1952830">Joe Barnas</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

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    Nice work man!

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    Thanks! Hit about 50% of the jumps on my second run but turned the camera off instead of on LOL.
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    Thanks MBX5......c'mon weekend!

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    My wife was one of the first few on there yesterday, she loved it!
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    Oh yeah, hitting jumps and berms to Eruption, nice work.

    I want to ride my bicycle on that.

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    going Saturday !!
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    That looks sweet. I'll be hitting that up on Sunday! The WP people are doing a great job expanding the terrain. Be all you can be is sick.

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    nice footage Joe, I just hit it up a couple times and it gets better every lap. Give it a couple days of no rain and a few more riders and the trail is going to be EPIC! Just dropped the mini ex into the next section (short) and then will be heading up to Five Points to start from there and connect to the top of the existing Rainmaker (jump trail). Watch for maintenance all over the place in the next week and keep your eyes out for some new features in the next couple weeks. Think big, near vertical curvy wood features to help accelerate you through a couple slow turns. Should be done before Crankworks. BTW... Slopestyle and Dual construction started today!!

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    sweet! gunna be hittin that up tomorrow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gldk
    nice footage Joe, I just hit it up a couple times and it gets better every lap. Give it a couple days of no rain and a few more riders and the trail is going to be EPIC! Just dropped the mini ex into the next section (short) and then will be heading up to Five Points to start from there and connect to the top of the existing Rainmaker (jump trail). Watch for maintenance all over the place in the next week and keep your eyes out for some new features in the next couple weeks. Think big, near vertical curvy wood features to help accelerate you through a couple slow turns. Should be done before Crankworks. BTW... Slopestyle and Dual construction started today!!
    Sounds like good things in the making. You guys are doing good work out there. It already looks faster and way more packed in than it was on Wednesday.

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    my compliments to the trail crew, i only got one lap down it the other day, but i'm just insanely stoked on it. i can't wait for this thing to get riddin in and a touch faster, and i'm stoked to see that the mini-ex was already toiling on the next section.

    no doubt this will be, or maybe already is, one of the best jump trails in existence.
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    Heading up tomorrow. Can't wait from all reports.
    One question:
    On the old Jump Trail, I had a problem maintaining speed w/o pedaling my ass off. Does RM allows for more speed w/o having me trying to turn my DH bike into an XC bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y
    Heading up tomorrow. Can't wait from all reports.
    One question:
    On the old Jump Trail, I had a problem maintaining speed w/o pedaling my ass off. Does RM allows for more speed w/o having me trying to turn my DH bike into an XC bike?

    I switched from my gambler to my reign today to see if it was smoother... still an outrageous amount of pedaling. Unfortunately rainmaker seems to be the same to me, if you speedcheck at all or make a mistake, it's a tone of work to get your speed back up. One of my bros that's WAY faster than me said after 3 runs he still was having to pedal like crazy to almost clear the hits.

    I love the trails at WP, but I wish more were built like DH trails!! I don't mind pedaling, but it gets old sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by backcountryislife
    I switched from my gambler to my reign today to see if it was smoother... still an outrageous amount of pedaling. Unfortunately rainmaker seems to be the same to me, if you speedcheck at all or make a mistake, it's a tone of work to get your speed back up. One of my bros that's WAY faster than me said after 3 runs he still was having to pedal like crazy to almost clear the hits.

    I love the trails at WP, but I wish more were built like DH trails!! I don't mind pedaling, but it gets old sometimes.


    Sounds just like the pumptrack, slowest damn pumptrack I've ever ridden. (not that it's worth riding).
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    Ok, planning on heading up to WP this week,hopefully for a couple of days. Silly question for the WP folks and those that frequent often...is everything made for DH bikes now or are there still trails that are fun on a HT? Like how would Rainmaker be on a DJ bike?
    I know, silly questions but I haven't been riding up there (or anywhere) the last few years due to shattering my ankle in a motorcycle wreck. Used to go to the Fat Tire Classic every year for quite awhile. Went up to watch Crankworx last year and took my old Kona Explosif HT and got some seriously funny looks from the DH kid crowd (like "is that really a Kona? It doesn't have 6-8" of travel? Whoa Dude!").

    At any rate I'm wondering whether my DJ bike or XC bike would be more fun, probably bring both and just have to find out.

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    I just spent one and a half days in Trestle on my 6.6. landed short on the double on Beall Ucanb and broke the lower shock bolt. Whipped out the Dare and finished out the day. Well......All I can say is that a 6 inch travel, well built up bike, is the least amount of bike I would use there. I wouldn't even try Trestle DH on anything less that a full DH sled. I had a lot of fun on the 6.6 but was waaayyyy faster on the Dare. Ride the HT you will just be slower and sorer at the end of the day. Trestle on an XC bike will just have the poor thing crying at the end of the day. But if that is what you want to do then go have fun.


    Oh yea.......Rain Maker Kicks A$$. Once you get into the bigger jumps, if you bobble or brake check at any time you might as well just not bother with the rest of the trail. With the exception of the....not sure if it is a big double or two rollers...I found no brake use = no need for pedaling.
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    I'd agree - upper Rainmaker doesn't require mad pedalling so long as you use the berms and stay off the binders. I'm hoping they do some smoothing on lower Rainmaker as it very ripple-y right now (and not in a good way) and a the dirt there is slow when it's damp (similar to Bootcamp). After just a couple runs though, I was getting most of it, even with the speed impediments. Great work on flow, guys!
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    I must suck cause I can't catch the tranny on any of the new stuff, or the old for that matter. Found the new booters kicked the rider straight up resulting in a landing that came up short on the tranny by about 4ft almost every time, and no matter how much I popped. Maybe I was going too slow, but it sure didn't feel like it (didn't pedal, but didn't brake check either). :/

    Oh, but the berms were amazing fun!
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    Rode rainmaker dry on saturday morning and landed to tranny on pretty much everything until I caught up with somebody on the last few tables. It flows really good if you keep all your speed and stay in the groove through the berms. One of my favorite sections of trail anywhere. Better than the upper section IMO. Probably won't be good to go when it's wet for a while. The dirt on the lower mtn gets slow in the rain.

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    Rainmaker is your new god. Seriously great terrain - make sure you keep speed up though.

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    such a good trail.

    now that its getting packed in and drying out, as long as you don't hit your brakes and throw a couple pedals at each lip, you are $$$. there are 2 hits that are somewhat easy to overshoot, that will supposedly be fixed, everything else is riding incredibly.

    the berms are truly something to behold. so well built the speed generated out of them is impressive. i think with some more tamping, riders, rain and dry there will be no need to pedal to clear the tables. just work the berms and pin it.

    rumor mill says rainmaker will start at 5points, which well... would be great.

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    Quick heads-up. Rainmaker will be closed to make a few minor adjustments this weds until about 4pm (remember extended hours though on weds. until 7pm). we are taking the machine back in to tweak a couple things to make it mo' better now that we see how it rides. AND yup, after that we take the machine up to 5-points to connect it from there.

    Thanks for the feedback! see you on the hill - Trestle Boss

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrestleBP
    Quick heads-up. Rainmaker will be closed to make a few minor adjustments this weds until about 4pm (remember extended hours though on weds. until 7pm). we are taking the machine back in to tweak a couple things to make it mo' better now that we see how it rides. AND yup, after that we take the machine up to 5-points to connect it from there.

    Thanks for the feedback! see you on the hill - Trestle Boss
    Could you also train the bike shop people a little bit when you are done fixing that amazing trail. I was informed that one could adjust a coil shock or fork to make it softer by 'letting out some air'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloradoxj13
    Could you also train the bike shop people a little bit when you are done fixing that amazing trail. I was informed that one could adjust a coil shock or fork to make it softer by 'letting out some air'.
    This is true based on the fork he was referring to. Older and even newer?? Marz's had air preloads on them that would stiffen the fork up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinkerjuarez
    This is true based on the fork he was referring to. Older and even newer?? Marz's had air preloads on them that would stiffen the fork up.
    Based on the Fox 40 fork on two of the bikes I demod (yes, I let air out of the Boxxer on the third) and DHX shocks on all three of the bikes I demo'd that we were talking about, not so much. And thats ignoring that fact that the crankset on the first bike I took out was about a half-inch from being tightened properly, chainguides don't work well when the chainrings are shifting back and forth 1/2".

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    I guess they might be confused by the boost chamber on the DHX as being a preload or something, some people will argue that it does make the shock feel stiffer or "plusher". But it really just adjusts the damping in the shock.

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