Moving to the Front Range.

[ScreenName]

For those of you who have moved to or from the Lakewood/Golden area recently, how would you say the cost of living is, and to what are you comparing it?

I have a job offer, and quite frankly I really want to take it. It's way below where the offer should be however. While it's still a raise, I'm not sure it's something I could do, and I want to know firsthand what it's like living in this area (how much it costs).

These questions are vague, I know. But you can extrapolate what I'm asking, I think, and sort of give me general answers... for example, could a couple both making minimum wage (guess it's 7.02/hr) really live in this area? If not, what would YOU say it would take (per hour, or per year, whichever you know).

I really would love to move. Me and my 4 bikes are begging to. I'm sure I can make it work, but I don't especially want to go from comfortable living (relatively speaking) to abject poverty, just to get close to these trails and roads.

Thanks!

[SkaredShtles]

$250K/year and you'll be reasonably comfortable...

[ScreenName]

$250K/year and you'll be reasonably comfortable...

sweet! so the 500k that they're offering WILL keep up my lifestyle....

[subliminalshiver]

Minimum wage might be a stretch if you're thinking about maintaining a standard of living above abject poverty.
So we'll go with the minimum comfortable scenario...
IMHO I think that if you can pull down something like 30k you could find nice little 1brdm place to rent and make a go of it. Rent is prolly gonna set you back around $600/month for something livable more if you want out of the hood. If you're trying to raise 4 bikes it's a great place with plenty-o-riding though, which if high on your list of priorities can be worth the sacrifice of a degree of living standard.

[SkaredShtles]

sweet! so the 500k that they're offering WILL keep up my lifestyle....

Dude. You're golden.

[subliminalshiver]

500k will get you a nice little shack. As long as you're into Top Ramen and Cheesy Mac you're good to go!

[ScreenName]

Minimum wage might be a stretch if you're thinking about maintaining a standard of living above abject poverty.
So we'll go with the minimum comfortable scenario...
IMHO I think that if you can pull down something like 30k you could find nice little 1brdm place to rent and make a go of it. Rent is prolly gonna set you back around $600/month for something livable more if you want out of the hood. If you're trying to raise 4 bikes it's a great place with plenty-o-riding though, which if high on your list of priorities can be worth the sacrifice of a degree of living standard.

Thanks, that's a helpful answer. Would probably be hoping to get into a 2 bedroom, and a few miles from Golden would be ok. (10 max?) I don't go out a lot so the "alcohol" bill wouldn't be too much, and I can live without going to the movies and stuff. Most of my expense comes from dining out, and then just crap I buy (again, that I can just not buy). So this is very helpful information. Thank you sir.

[nOOby]

buy or rent?

[ScreenName]

rent

[subliminalshiver]

All that being said I know people that survive quite comfortably on less than 30k. It's just about what you're willing to sacrifice, what you're willing to accept. There is plenty to do outside of your home around here, so if you're not planning on spending a whole lot of time there you don't need anything fancy. I don't know what your job offer is, but consider this: There are plenty of minimum-wage jobs and workers in the metro area, and they obviously survive. If you want to be here, get here. Although you might want to get in line, I hear they're getting ready to shut the gates to any more imports.

[joelalamo45]

Ok, so I moved out here from Dallas a few years ago. Before I moved up here I made a lot of money, got a new car every other year, had a really nice house, the works... Now I make OK money working at Winter Park resort, drive a semi-nice car, have a smaller house... I've never been happier. The mountains change your priorities. Happiness takes priority over cash up here.

Where are you moving from? If it's California or someplace super-expensive, then you'll actually be able to better here in Colorado.

[nOOby]

factor in $600-1000 in rent, all other costs are the same as most other places.

[subliminalshiver]

I hear Nederland is really the new IT place to be.....

[UncleTrail]

For those of you who have moved to or from the Lakewood/Golden area recently, how would you say the cost of living is, and to what are you comparing it?

I have a job offer, and quite frankly I really want to take it. It's way below where the offer should be however. While it's still a raise, I'm not sure it's something I could do, and I want to know firsthand what it's like living in this area (how much it costs).

These questions are vague, I know. But you can extrapolate what I'm asking, I think, and sort of give me general answers... for example, could a couple both making minimum wage (guess it's 7.02/hr) really live in this area? If not, what would YOU say it would take (per hour, or per year, whichever you know).

I really would love to move. Me and my 4 bikes are begging to. I'm sure I can make it work, but I don't especially want to go from comfortable living (relatively speaking) to abject poverty, just to get close to these trails and roads.

Thanks!

Speaking in general terms, expect $10K-15K/year less than a comparable job in other parts of the county.

[nOOby]

it's actually pretty cool up here. If you like space bet/ you and your neighbors, trail out the door, and smelly hippies

I hear Nederland is really the new IT place to be.....

[ScreenName]

Speaking in general terms, expect $10K-15K/year less than a comparable job in other parts of the county.

Is there a discernible reason for that, or is that just how it is? Either way, could you expound? Thanks!

factor in $600-1000 in rent, all other costs are the same as most other places.

I'm coming from a pretty small town, so cost will be higher for me... that's my biggest consideration at this point.

[thump]

I hear Nederland is really the new IT place to be.....

Yeah.. sucks up here. I'd much rather be in the burbs.
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[WKD-RDR]

Ok, so I moved out here from Dallas a few years ago. Before I moved up here I made a lot of money, got a new car every other year, had a really nice house, the works... Now I make OK money working at Winter Park resort, drive a semi-nice car, have a smaller house... I've never been happier. The mountains change your priorities. Happiness takes priority over cash up here.

Quality perspective

[AKA monkeyboy]

I moved out here from Long Island, NY so everything is cheaper (especially gas), and the beer is better.

As others have pointed out, the quality of life is where it's at. Driving to work and seeing the mountains every morning is a great way to start the day.

Colorado is very bike friendly...

p.s. I hope you like burritos... It's tough to get food that's not wrapped in a tortilla here.

[snowskilz]

i moved out here from eastern PA. I did a ton of research before moving here and it basically came down to about 1k$ more per month to live here then where i was living. Food is higher priced out here but rent is the same or cheaper then where i moved from.

The weather is better then anywhere else and theres some ok biking too

[IndecentExposure]

Golden is cool.

[Three Phase]

When i moved out here i used one of the many salary calculators available on the net. Those can be very helpful when deciding where to move.
Here is one of them I used.
http://www.bestplaces.net/

[ScreenName]

great site, and useful info. somethings I didn't know. Thanks!!

[Ithnu]

I moved here from Milwaukee 2 years ago, and I lived near the downtown there, equivalent to Capital hill in this city. I was paying $915 a month for a 2 bedroom. Here I was paying $1155 for a two bedroom.

Food and beer cost more out here, gas is a little cheaper. But beer is REALLY cheap in Milwaukee, so that's not a fair comparison.

But as Joel said, the mountains make it worth it, even if you hit traffic on I-70 I think its still worth it.

[colomtnman]

Actually despite what all these people say it's really crappy here. The snow sucks for snowboarding, the bike trials are completly unmaintained and rutted, confusing, and packed to no end, the traffic is horrible and there is a nasty smog that floats over the whole of Denvers only 30 sunny days per year. Other than that... yeah it's great.

[nOOby]

sounds like one more vote for Ned.

Actually despite what all these people say it's really crappy here. The snow sucks for snowboarding, the bike trials are completly unmaintained and rutted, confusing, and packed to no end, the traffic is horrible and there is a nasty smog that floats over the whole of Denvers only 30 sunny days per year. Other than that... yeah it's great.

[subliminalshiver]

Loveland is nice... and I even know where you can find a beauty of a house to rent.

[Ithnu]

The smog is definitely something Wisconsin didn't have and it makes me consider moving out away from Denver eventually, it sucks when i can barely see downtown from 10 miles away.

[IndecentExposure]

Actually despite what all these people say it's really crappy here. The snow sucks for snowboarding, the bike trials are completly unmaintained and rutted, confusing, and packed to no end, the traffic is horrible and there is a nasty smog that floats over the whole of Denvers only 30 sunny days per year. Other than that... yeah it's great.

Sounds like you should move. Kansas might be a better spot for you.

[IndecentExposure]

sounds like one more vote for Ned.

Are ya sure you want that kind of negativity in Ned?

[Godzilla]

My thinking is - if you're making minimum wage, there's no better time to move. Nothing will kill the spirit of adventure like a decent paycheck.

[nOOby]

we's all peace and free love up here so probably not

Are ya sure you want that kind of negativity in Ned?

[athalliah]

My thinking is - if you're making minimum wage, there's no better time to move. Nothing will kill the spirit of adventure like a decent paycheck.

x2; I moved here with no job, no friends and only enough $ to put a deposit on a studio in Capitol Hill. Best decision ever.

[ban'd4life]

Screenname-

If you are thinking about moving to the Colorado,specifically the FrontRange, there are a few things you need to do;

1) Buy a Subaru( preferrably an Outback, but any will do) and get Colorado tags immediately.

2) Change your name to Dave or David.

3) Buy a Lab(dog) any color will do but for proper assimilation black or chocolate is de riguer.

4) Buy a Yeti 575

5) Buy a Fox Talas and install on said Yeti

6) Buy a full complement of body armor and a full face helmet and shuttle a hidden gem of a trail named Apex

7)Post pictures of said shuttle run on this forum

8)Follow up the above post with a seperate post "Which tire is best for the FrontRange?"

9) Bemoan the fact that it is cold and it snows here in the winter, unless of course you come from snowy/cold climes, then bemoan the fact that it was 65 degrees yesterday, and it's snowing right now.

10) Only purchase your clothes at REI to show everyone just how "in tune" you are with the Colorado lifestyle.

11) Do all of these, and you will fit right in.


In all seriousness... try to come out and visit the Front Range and decide for yourself if it is a place where you would like to move.

[dirtydee]

dude, it looks like you are from Oxfod MS. I lived in southaven for a couple years. actually went to high school there. Colorado is way more expensive than MS. but once you get here you will never look back. do yourself a favor and leave mississippi.

[gotdirt]

It's tough to get food that's not wrapped in a tortilla here.

[Godzilla]

Screenname-

If you are thinking about moving to the Colorado,specifically the FrontRange, there are a few things you need to do;

1) Buy a Subaru( preferrably an Outback, but any will do) and get Colorado tags immediately.

2) Change your name to Dave or David.

3) Buy a Lab(dog) any color will do but for proper assimilation black or chocolate is de riguer.

4) Buy a Yeti 575

5) Buy a Fox Talas and install on said Yeti

6) Buy a full complement of body armor and a full face helmet and shuttle a hidden gem of a trail named Apex

7)Post pictures of said shuttle run on this forum

8)Follow up the above post with a seperate post "Which tire is best for the FrontRange?"

9) Bemoan the fact that it is cold and it snows here in the winter, unless of course you come from snowy/cold climes, then bemoan the fact that it was 65 degrees yesterday, and it's snowing right now.

10) Only purchase your clothes at REI to show everyone just how "in tune" you are with the Colorado lifestyle.

11) Do all of these, and you will fit right in.


In all seriousness... try to come out and visit the Front Range and decide for yourself if it is a place where you would like to move.

You forgot the windscreen for the Yakima / Thule, you know, the one plastered liberally with stickers.

[ban'd4life]

Oh Snap! I let my subscription to Front Range Trends run out so I am a bit behind.

[Ozzie]

You guys need to get out of the Urban scene and head down south young man. You can drive to work in ten minutes which will give you 2 more hours of riding time. Living expense is a lot cheaper, you can purchase a new 4 bed home for around 130 grand. Sure it's hot in the summer but the mountains are only 25 miles away. The greatest mtb trail in the US (crest trail) along side Monarch Ski area with the most power days is only 145 miles away. You can ride your bike year round, Ski one day and hammer local trails the next. You don't need a dating service, for 3/4 of the residents the only sport they engage in is bar hopping on Friday and Saturday nights. Some of the clubs are great, take the knife and gun club for instance. If you work in the health, police, judicial or prison fields it's job security. Plus if more people move here my home value will increase, I can sell for a profit and move to Mexico where I can live like a King.

[nOOby]

Some of the clubs are great, take the knife and gun club for instance. If you work in the health, police, judicial or prison fields it's job security.

I was wondering what the industries were down there. thanks.

[Da Dook]

p.s. I hope you like burritos... It's tough to get food that's not wrapped in a tortilla here.

And I am more than ok with that....

[Ithnu]

Screenname-

If you are thinking about moving to the Colorado,specifically the FrontRange, there are a few things you need to do...

Very nicely put

[gdfan70]

Ban'd...that is too funny! Subaru or HUGE lifted pickup to cruise the urban jungle,,,

[sooner518]

I moved here originally from Oklahoma, by way of wayyy south Chicago. Rent is a little more expensive here but it just depends on where in the city you want to live. I've got some friends who have a 2 bedroom/1bath apartment in Englewood (Hampden and Lowell) for like 750/month. The closer to the city you live, the more expensive itll be. I got lucky and rent a house in Wash Park with 5 bedrooms and 2 and a half baths that I split with 2 other people for $1450 total. Im moving to a place in Highlands next month that is a 3 bedroom/2 bath house for 700/month. The owner keeps the back bedroom/bath for himself on the 1-2 days a month he is there, but the rest of the time, its all mine. I cant wait to move! (I just wanted to brag about that).

Of course I spend the rest of my money on my Thule windscreen and "Native" stickers to plaster all over it, so I guess that can get fairly expensive.

Check out Craigslist. There are alot of places to be had on there.

[AKA monkeyboy]

Nothing will kill the spirit of adventure like a decent paycheck.

Dude... that's incredible... profoundness wrapped in a warm flour tortilla.