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    Moving to CO, need advice on good location

    I am looking into taking a job in Fort Collins, Boulder, or possibly Denver. I enjoy Freeride/North Shore type riding. Nothing crazy, skinnys, drops etc. I've been riding mostly Western WA and BC lately. I am hoping to be close enough to a decent bike park (anything close to Whistler in CO??) within an hour or 2 drive.

    Of those three cities, which would you chose to live in, considering all factors?

    Thanks for the advice!
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    For me, the short answer would be Fort Collins. Realize that housing prices are higher in Boulder than Fort Collins or most parts of Denver. As far as bike parks, Winter Park and Keystone are good, although nothing really compares top Whistler!

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    If you want the best riding out your door - Fort Collins would be my#1, Golden #1 in the Denver Metro. Fort Collins prices are almost 1/2 that of Golden I bet though right now.

    Denver/Boulder area is an hour closer to the Summit County trails if you'll be driving to the freeride park trails or if you like to ski a lot. Fort Collins really doesn't have any big hit type of stuff, but if you want to put less than 2,000 miles on a vehicle a year then Fort Collins is the place. Everything Denver has you might possibly need in town is less than a 3 mile drive (unless you like to shop at Nordstroms- the one shop my wife misses) unless you live outside of town.
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    Boulder = college kids
    Denver = big city
    Golden = small town next to big city-but doesn't feel like a suburb
    Fort Collins = not sure, my only friends up there are in college

    You really can't go wrong. Resorts...Keystone, Vail, Winter Park, Sol Vista. All less than 2 hours.

    And for everyone else, how many of these threads do you think we'll get this year? I believe its been 4 in two weeks already.
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    Maybe if people used the search function and people stopped answering the same questions in every thread there'd be less of them. Since there's really not a whole bunch of action it doesn't clutter the forum that bad and they're easy to ignore.

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    Brush has some KILLER freeride & Northshore type riding.

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    Why not move to Vancouver? Why come here?

    Fort collins doesn't offer the Freeride / DH scene as much as the I-70 corridor would.

    Please search through the forum and inquire about the same question... Its been asked a million times already.

    Golden is where I park, but it is pricey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by concretejungle
    Maybe if people used the search function and people stopped answering the same questions in every thread there'd be less of them.
    Yeah, but I respond out of boredom. And I hope it gets side tracked into an entertaining discussion. Lately we've been ripping on Texans, how about people from the East Coast?
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    Perhaps we should make a sticky: Moving to colorado, here's your answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndecentExposure
    Perhaps we should make a sticky: Moving to colorado, here's your answer.
    How about "Don't move here, its full of Texans".

    This Texan at my work, who picked up snowboarding when she moved here last year, jumped into a conversation about a weekend trip to Jackson Hole, and she started telling us about how cold her forehead got the previous weekend. We both kinda laughed, she didn't get it. A Texan who butted her way into a conversation telling us about the gap in between her hat and goggles You can't make this sh!t up!

    Really though, the sticky is a great idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndecentExposure
    Perhaps we should make a sticky: Moving to colorado, here's your answer.
    Only if it makes it clear that we're full and there is a strict one in one out policy. Two out one in for Texans and Californians.

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    What the @### is it with Front Range colorado? Jeezuz people, move somewhere the biking is better! I'd live in Grand Junction if I could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought
    I am looking into taking a job in Fort Collins, Boulder, or possibly Denver. I enjoy Freeride/North Shore type riding. Nothing crazy, skinnys, drops etc. I've been riding mostly Western WA and BC lately. I am hoping to be close enough to a decent bike park (anything close to Whistler in CO??) within an hour or 2 drive.

    Of those three cities, which would you chose to live in, considering all factors?

    Thanks for the advice!
    Seriously, stay where you're at. You'll be dissappointed at how the anal's of the biking world do magical work on 'anti DH / FR'. Its sad really, but the XCer's seem to rule the nest around here, along with government and landowners that fear lawsuits.

    We have a few bike parks, Keystone, Winter Park, Sol Vista that are fun.... but NOTHING like Wistler what so ever.

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    Hold on...IE is talking people out of moving here?


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    Golden sucks. Don't move here.

    I'm paving the way Athalliah, I think I owe you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndecentExposure
    Golden sucks. Don't move here.

    I'm paving the way Athalliah, I think I owe you.
    Yeah, go to Phoenix.

    Fact of life folks. Everyone is going to have to get used to this state growing. I don't know if anyone caught the news last night, but Charles Schwab is adding 500 tech jobs to the Metro area with a $75,000 average salary.

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    75K buck chuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nOOby
    75K buck chuck.

    not to be mstaken for chuck n' buck

    Yes, but that is the median. So there'e 248 positions that pay more, I guess. I was never that good in statistics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers
    I was never that good in statistics.
    Stats is easy. Pick the number you want to represent your findings and manipulate the data until reflects the desired result.

    ps...average is your mean, not the median.

    median= number in the middle, eg: 1,2,3,4,5; the number in the middle is 3.

    mean (or average) = 1+2+3+4+5=15/ total number of values (5) = 3

    Okay, bad example, as the median=mean

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    Yeah, I saw the other posts. Job openings are quite specific, hence why I listed the 3 places (rather Boulder than Denver). Hence, different and much more specific than the other posts.

    About the flames, it doesn't bother me.

    "Why not move to Van": I am thinking about Vancouver as well, but it would require me to change several things in my job, not the least of which is licensing in another country. Its so damn wet all the time here, moss grows like a carpet on the sidewalks and the sides of buildings. A friend said he counted 100 days straight without blue sky...Plus, I would have to start playing hockey, and likely lose a few teeth. Thats not so good for picking up chicks, though who knows maybe in Canada a toothless grin is sexy?

    Oh, and I agree F^%$ the Texans!
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    Quote Originally Posted by concretejungle
    Only if it makes it clear that we're full and there is a strict one in one out policy. Two out one in for Texans and Californians.

    Don't mind them they just don't understand Us TEXANS . I had someone come in to my store the other day from Palm Springs CA and man she was a joke and had no clue. They just moved here a week ago and they cant find alot of winter clothes in the mall.I was like DUH the stores are starting to get spring stuff. ( I was saying in my head your to dumb to understand and need to go the F back to CA. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by athalliah
    Stats is easy. Pick the number you want to represent your findings and manipulate the data until reflects the desired result.

    ps...average is your mean, not the median.

    median= number in the middle, eg: 1,2,3,4,5; the number in the middle is 3.

    mean (or average) = 1+2+3+4+5=15/ total number of values (5) = 3

    Okay, bad example, as the median=mean



    When I used to work for the NJ Dept of Ed, they would give us a list of numbers and tell us find the mean, median, max, etc. I would just write a SAS procedure and it would do it.

    .proc mean 12,34, 233, 23, 22, 233;

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    Quote Originally Posted by concretejungle
    Only if it makes it clear that we're full and there is a strict one in one out policy. Two out one in for Texans and Californians.

    DONE! OK, this is gonna live at the top for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2melow
    DONE! OK, this is gonna live at the top for a while.

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    FR is XC

    You've really got to go to the ski areas dude, and now its ski?board time, not FR/DH time. The front range is an XC type place. Its called the Front Range, not the North Shore.

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    Get over it.

    Quote Originally Posted by concretejungle
    Maybe if people used the search function and people stopped answering the same questions in every thread there'd be less of them. Since there's really not a whole bunch of action it doesn't clutter the forum that bad and they're easy to ignore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klein_Christopher
    Don't mind them they just don't understand Us TEXANS . I had someone come in to my store the other day from Palm Springs CA and man she was a joke and had no clue. They just moved here a week ago and they cant find alot of winter clothes in the mall.I was like DUH the stores are starting to get spring stuff. ( I was saying in my head your to dumb to understand and need to go the F back to CA. )

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    My wife works part time at REI and she gets people all the time who come here for vacation and try to buy what they need for a trip in the mountains right there.

    Going on a ski vacation in the Rockies and you're buying a coat, pants, hat, etc the day before?

    To keep this worthy of the sticky...if you're moving from the south make sure to buy winter clothes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithnu
    To keep this worthy of the sticky...if you're moving from the south make sure to buy winter clothes!
    I've lived in this general area of the country my whole life so I might be talking out my a$$ but to be fair, I'm assuming its hard to find places that sell ski gear in most warm places

    (Although it did blow my mind seeing a ski shop sign off the 101 just south of San Fran)

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    There's always a couple of shops in really big towns. I picked up a $600 board in Dallas in July for $225! A closeout from the year before. They sold all high end stuff. Most people don't want to fly or drive out and spend a day getting boots fitted and whatnot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitek79
    There's always a couple of shops in really big towns. I picked up a $600 board in Dallas in July for $225! A closeout from the year before. They sold all high end stuff. Most people don't want to fly or drive out and spend a day getting boots fitted and whatnot.
    Crazy, good to know.

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    1st choice, Golden (Denver). Fastest access to high country riding (nothing like Whistler). Best access to Front Range trails and all the amenities you might want in a metro area.

    2nd choice, Ft. Collins. College town, great beer, good bike scene. Kind of far away from the I-70 corridor.

    Dead last, Boulder. This is an attractive choice on the surface (new crop of college girls every fall), but if you look a little closer, it's a city full of d-bag's. Aging hippies, psudo eco freaks and socialist elites. They claim to be the "epicenter of biking in the US", but that only applies to roadies. There's no quality trails in Boulder. You have to drive to Lyons, Golden, Nederland or beyond to find a decent trail. On top of that, the Boulder valley is smoggier than both Denver and Ft. Collins. Stay away from this town!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithnu
    My wife works part time at REI and she gets people all the time who come here for vacation and try to buy what they need for a trip in the mountains right there.

    Going on a ski vacation in the Rockies and you're buying a coat, pants, hat, etc the day before?

    To keep this worthy of the sticky...if you're moving from the south make sure to buy winter clothes!
    What REI? I used to work at the one in Boulder.

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    Move to Moab Utah !?!

    I know it's a stretch but - since you are asking for advice on where to move & ride - and since advice comes from experience - I suggest you stuff your job ideas into the blender and consider a complete change .... for instance, I have a home in Moab - which has been a B & B for ten years - on some Oh-so-beautiful- property ... which is for sale ..... ! It is very special, with a rare, pure, artesian spring and giant shade trees (just to mention a giant house w/ swimming pool).

    I have been there twenty-five years so, .... I need a change ! Moab Is quiet, no traff*ck, low crime, pure air, and every opportunity for a creative thinker; how about a school of cycling!

    Check it out .... <www.pioneerspring.com/video.html>

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    aw hell, I KNOW I'm going to get shredded for posting my place as a suggestion for where to live ....

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    What's are some differences between Fort Collins and Loveland? I have business interests in western Nebraska that I may need to relocate to be closer to, but I don't want to live there.

    The northern end of the I25 corridor would work for me, and I've already seen the recommendations for Fort Collins, but is there anywhere else of note in the vicinity?

    It can be pretty rural, and I don't need any DH trails. Just easy access to dirt miles.

    BTW, I've already looked at the I80 corridor (Laramie, Cheyenne) driving back and forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itswitz
    aw hell, I KNOW I'm going to get shredded for posting my place as a suggestion for where to live ....
    Never! Not in this forum. They don't want any immigration to their precious state anyway, even if it means a doc to take care of their little kids, lol!

    I have thought about Moab. Funny you suggest that, since I will be there for the first time (on a bike) next week. Reasons not to move to Moab...higher education. I pretty much want to be near a major University, might get a second doctorate someday.

    And don't worry about the thread hijack, as the OP, I hereby grant you immunity from any and all flames
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    Oh hell, y'all be shocked if you see me (knowing what I am just about to say) but I spent many a college weekend in Oklahoma listening to A Thousand Miles from Nowhere, among others. Not sure what that has to do with this thread (maybe the Texas reference)but anyway, I think I'll be moving to the Ken Caryl Valley. That is another really nice area to live in.

    I have been looking for a while and I think if you want to be close to riding yet not too far out, Golden, Morrison, Ken Caryl, and Lakewood, are the only places to be. If all goes well, I'll be out of Highlands Ranch before long. Here's to a sweet 2009 riding season!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought
    a major University, might get a second doctorate someday.
    So that's the bait question, what would you're first doctorate be in? Me, I'm more of a physics guy, mechanical engineering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr.welby
    What's are some differences between Fort Collins and Loveland? I have business interests in western Nebraska that I may need to relocate to be closer to, but I don't want to live there.

    The northern end of the I25 corridor would work for me, and I've already seen the recommendations for Fort Collins, but is there anywhere else of note in the vicinity?

    It can be pretty rural, and I don't need any DH trails. Just easy access to dirt miles.

    BTW, I've already looked at the I80 corridor (Laramie, Cheyenne) driving back and forth.

    Loveland:
    Smaller town, geographically and population wise. Real estate prices are a bit less. Big art community.

    Fort Collins: Bigger. College town. Hi tech employers. Higher housing costs.

    Riding is good from both, but riding from your door is easier when you live on the west side of either town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgltrak

    Loveland:
    Smaller town, geographically and population wise. Real estate prices are a bit less. Big art community.

    Fort Collins: Bigger. College town. Hi tech employers. Higher housing costs.

    Riding is good from both, but riding from your door is easier when you live on the west side of either town.
    I'd agree with Loveland and would add Bellvue or LaPorte. Both are on the north side of Fort Collins and have easy access to the great trails up the Poudre Canyon or Red Feather Lakes. They are also an hour's drive from Laramie, WY with Happy Jack, Vedauwoo, and that whole area. Winter Park is great for downhill but a drive is a drive is a drive.... It isn't Whistler.

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    what about aurora? i know it's on the "wrong" side of denver. nice area or is it like any other town that has it's nice parts and it's not so nice parts? seems to be more affordable, but not too much of a fan of it being 25+ miles away from the FR.
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    I like Arvada...64 miles from Winter Park I would say Golden, Arvada, and Western Lakewood. They all put you in good posistion for some good riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wankel7
    I like Arvada...64 miles from Winter Park I would say Golden, Arvada, and Western Lakewood. They all put you in good posistion for some good riding.
    Add SW Littleton and Roxborough to that mix. Great riding near.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Z
    what about aurora? i know it's on the "wrong" side of denver. nice area or is it like any other town that has it's nice parts and it's not so nice parts? seems to be more affordable, but not too much of a fan of it being 25+ miles away from the FR.
    I wouldn't recommend it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Z
    what about aurora? i know it's on the "wrong" side of denver. nice area or is it like any other town that has it's nice parts and it's not so nice parts? seems to be more affordable, but not too much of a fan of it being 25+ miles away from the FR.
    Besides 90% of all murders on the news happening in Aurora...

    You also have to drive through or around downtown to get to the foothills, which would be a major pain in the buttocks for after work rides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    Add SW Littleton and Roxborough to that mix. Great riding near.
    Good point on those locations...

    And the SE corner of 470/285 is a good spot.

    Any of the areas we mentioned are great. As long as you are a mile or so within 70,76, or 6. You can get on the highway and be riding in no time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithnu
    Besides 90% of all murders on the news happening in Aurora...

    You also have to drive through or around downtown to get to the foothills, which would be a major pain in the buttocks for after work rides.
    enough said! thanks!
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    I live at the SE corner of 470/285 and love it. Very close to some good trails, and snowboarding is really close as well. Traffic is minimal compared to further east.

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    I almost ended up down there...some good values on homes.

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