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    Mountain biker retaliates against JCOS

    So one of my neighbors' daughter is working for Jefferson County Open Space trail crew this summer. Although under the guidance of her superiors, she is well versed in what is going on with the trail maintanence and mountain biker issues. At Meyer Ranch the other day, while working on a trail, a mountain biker rolls up and starts to curse, swear and yell at the trail crew for removing rocks. Although he's entitled to free speech, what he did next was not cool for any of us!

    He proceeds down the hill and slashes all the tires of the crew bus. Wow, that's giving us a great reputation.

    I spoke with her mom for a short while, although not a mountain biker, she says "Why don't they make biking only trails? I just don't get it!?"

    Be careful out there guys, I'd like to work on the idea of biking only trails without this type of publicity. But again, perhaps they'll start to get the message.

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    Wow, talk about taking it to the EXTREME.. Hehe. Oh well, I haven't even had a chance to check any of the FR trails out since I've been so busy. Heading up for some real MTB'ing this weekend at WP and Sol.

    I do like the idea of Bike only trails thou.

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    I think the idea of slashed JCOS tires and us ending up with our own trails is a bit of a non sequiter. I'm not sure which emoticon to use here, so choose your own.

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    [QUOTE=IndecentExposure
    Be careful out there guys, I'd like to work on the idea of biking only trails without this type of publicity. But again, perhaps they'll start to get the message.[/QUOTE]

    Not a good way to do it.

    Keep in mind there plenty of bike only trails (well, no hiker in their right mind would be caught in the burn) at Buffalo Creek. Though not necessarily Front Range, there are very few issues for MTBers.

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    thats not right, what an ass.

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    Not good, childish crap like that can undo years of responsible peoples hard work. I'm usually OK with letting the little stuff slide but this person should be arrested and prosecuted. If I knew this person, and knew that they had vandalized someones property, I would strongly encourage them to turn them self in and make restitution. If they didn't do the right thing I would seriously consider turning them in.

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    Idiot.

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    I'm glad you brought this up, but at the same time, the people on here are not the people who would ever disrespect the trail crew (at least I would like to think).

    Also, what kind of person do you have to be to slash someone's tires in the first place?!?!

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    I'm curious - what kind of knife do you use to slash bus tires? And also kind of scared to think about someone with that kind of temper keeping a knife in their car/ on their person...
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    while on the topic of jcos trail crews and *****ing about their work...

    is it cool if i take a truckload of rocks from sourdough and dump them on a trail somewhere in jefferson county?

    some of my fingers are still numb from riding it saturday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomit
    while on the topic of jcos trail crews and *****ing about their work...

    is it cool if i take a truckload of rocks from sourdough and dump them on a trail somewhere in jefferson county?

    some of my fingers are still numb from riding it saturday.
    NO!! Leave them there I love that trail!
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    that would be a big waste of some currently well placed rocks

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    just one truckload.

    can't i have a 20 foot long break in between the 10 straight miles of wooded scree field?

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    Um, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomit
    just one truckload.

    can't i have a 20 foot long break in between the 10 straight miles of wooded scree field?
    It has nothing to do with too many rocks.

    Just your bike having too little travel.


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    yep, hence the reason for security...

    as a sweeping generalization here, "we" haven't made the best impression i'm afraid.

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    The sad part is Meyer Ranch had just enough rocks to keep it interesting and a challenge for newer riders or my kids for example.

    To that guy: one word karma
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBR me!
    The sad part is Meyer Ranch had just enough rocks to keep it interesting and a challenge for newer riders or my kids for example.

    To that guy: one word karma
    hallelujah.

    next time he rides he's goin OTB, that is if he didn't get a couple flats on the way home from meyer ranch..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikergal
    NO!! Leave them there I love that trail!

    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    i am having a hard time believing this story - not saying it didn't happen - how old is this girl? so -some dude is biking, yells at a trail crew, and then slashes their tires.....
    after i typed that i doubt this story even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungryhead
    i am having a hard time believing this story - not saying it didn't happen - how old is this girl? so -some dude is biking, yells at a trail crew, and then slashes their tires..... after i typed that i doubt this story even more.
    Glad I'm not the only one. Realizing there are a-hole bikers out there, and that it's certainly possible one of them did something this weird, stupid, and out of the blue, something doesn't ring entirely true to me either. Unless somebody saw this guy slashing the tires, it's a pretty huge leap to just automatically charge him as the criminal and look for no further information or answers.

    Then again, this is Jeffco, and this was a mountain biker, so at least we can take comfort in their consistency.

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    How can anyone believe that behaving like this...

    helps the mtbikers in the front range? if anything, this lives up to the negative stereotype that some already have about our user group.

    Whoever this was, (hoping he reads this forum!), was a complete jerk, his behavior was completely unacceptable. I am also concerned/disappointed about the work done on the trails, but yelling, especially swearing at, a high school/college age female worker is way out of line, add the destruction of property, this guy is a complete jerk.

    Thank you for putting a positive face on mtbikers on my local trial.
    If you are reading, and wish to discuss further, please IM me, I believe that you are in need of some trailside coaching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbabuser
    I'm curious - what kind of knife do you use to slash bus tires? And also kind of scared to think about someone with that kind of temper keeping a knife in their car/ on their person...
    Good thing it wasn't that guy who packs heat in the camelbak. There could have been homicides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungryhead
    i am having a hard time believing this story - not saying it didn't happen - how old is this girl? so -some dude is biking, yells at a trail crew, and then slashes their tires.....
    after i typed that i doubt this story even more.

    The story is true. This happened a couple weeks back (unless this is a second incident). Kim Frederick mentioned this to us before we did the mini-crew on Apex. It happened the same day. It was my understanding that the valve stems were pulled, I don't think the tires were slashed. Either way, the kids got overtime sitting around waiting for the second bus. So for those of you who were worried about taxpayer's dollars..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverstreak
    The story is true.
    So if the story is true someone must have actually SEEN the biker remove the stem valves? Why wasn't the person stopped?

    Not defending anyone or any action but it sounds circumstantial at best.
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