View Poll Results: Which is the most technical trail?

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  • Dakota Ridge

    33 56.90%
  • Mountain Lion Trail (Golden Gate Canyon SP)

    5 8.62%
  • Lion Gulch

    8 13.79%
  • Peacefull Valley / Buchanan Pass

    1 1.72%
  • Sourdough / Wapiti / Baptiste / SSV Trails network

    5 8.62%
  • Hall Ranch (Front Side)

    4 6.90%
  • Apex Park

    2 3.45%
  • Bergen Peak

    2 3.45%
  • White Ranch (Long Horn, Mustang)

    7 12.07%
  • Red Rocks / Morrison Slide

    0 0%
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    Most Technical Front Range Trail Poll

    Trails near Boulder/Denver. Pick 2 or 3 if you think it's a tie. I haven't ridden much near Fort Collins or Colorado Springs, so maybe someone else can do a different poll for that. All of these trails are within an hour of Boulder/Denver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_G
    Trails near Boulder/Denver. Pick 2 or 3 if you think it's a tie. I haven't ridden much near Fort Collins or Colorado Springs, so maybe someone else can do a different poll for that. All of these trails are within an hour of Boulder/Denver.
    Not sure if sourdough should be lumped in with SSV since SSV is clearly, IMO, the hardest stuff listed. I think people are going to read that as Sourdough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    Not sure if sourdough should be lumped in with SSV since SSV is clearly, IMO, the hardest stuff listed. I think people are going to read that as Sourdough.
    Yes, I should have clarified that I meant *North* of Brainard Lake Rd., as we were talking about in a previous thread. Sorry 'bout that. I can't figure out how to edit the Poll...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    Not sure if sourdough should be lumped in with SSV since SSV is clearly, IMO, the hardest stuff listed. I think people are going to read that as Sourdough.
    Yep. And the fact that not as many folks have ridden that or Lion Gulch. Or even knew about Lion Gulch. Results may be skewed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ignazjr
    Yep. And the fact that not as many folks have ridden that or Lion Gulch. Or even knew about Lion Gulch. Results may be skewed...
    Yeah, probably. It should still be interesting though.

    I saw the LHC OHV on your website listed as pretty technical too. I've never actually ridden there! A shame since it's so close, but everytime I've gone by, there were dozens of jeeps and quads. It sounds like that should have made the tech-top 10! When is a good time to ride there without so much motorized traffic? I'm sure they are courteous, but I'd just rather ride it when the air is fresher...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_G
    When is a good time to ride there without so much motorized traffic? I'm sure they are courteous, but I'd just rather ride it when the air is fresher...
    Early in the morning, like 7am Sunday. Also night riding is good there too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_G
    I saw the LHC OHV on your website listed as pretty technical too. I've never actually ridden there! A shame since it's so close, but everytime I've gone by, there were dozens of jeeps and quads. It sounds like that should have made the tech-top 10! When is a good time to ride there without so much motorized traffic? I'm sure they are courteous, but I'd just rather ride it when the air is fresher...
    LHC is definitely hardcore and not for everyone. Requires some hiking/pushing but you get rewarded with some killer views and great steep, rocky, ass behind the saddle descending - the type where your brakes smell and are steamy at then end. Once you get up up in there, occurance of jeeps and motos is pretty thinned out so it's not bad at all. As far as NEVER seeing another moto, well... I've only ever seen one jeep up there ever whilst night riding...

    Now's a good time to go because it's all South facing. Gives a new meaning to steep. I know guys that push their dh bikes up to ride down. Carnage Canyon may have some ice in there, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ignazjr
    LHC is definitely hardcore and not for everyone. Requires some hiking/pushing but you get rewarded with some killer views and great steep, rocky, ass behind the saddle descending - the type where your brakes smell and are steamy at then end. Once you get up up in there, occurance of jeeps and motos is pretty thinned out so it's not bad at all. As far as NEVER seeing another moto, well... I've only ever seen one jeep up there ever whilst night riding...

    Now's a good time to go because it's all South facing. Gives a new meaning to steep. I know guys that push their dh bikes up to ride down. Carnage Canyon may have some ice in there, though.
    I was up there 2 weeks ago - Carnage was super sloppy between the exposed dirt/mud and the super slushy hardened snowpack. But it was really fun.
    Take the long cut, we'll get there eventually.

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    I kind of think you have to go with Dakota, but it's probably better to distinguish between the more established Open Space and State Park trails and the lesser known trails like Lion's Gulch (which I've never ridden). Of course, going north on Dakota is also a helluva lot harder than going south, at least it is to me. I'm sure if you go far off the beaten path in the national forest land, you can always find something that's unrideable for most people.

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    technical

    I've got my own definition of technical, but I've learned that my idea of something could be lightyears different from the next guys idea. So, please, define "technical". Someone asked me one time in Moab if Slickrock was "technical" and I just said "...uhhhhh".

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    Tasty Tech

    Riding Dakota south bound is a great ride, but by no mean the most technical trail in the front range. Not even close =)

    1) Dakota NORTH bound is a phenomenal ride and maybe twice as technical as south bound. Offers a couple cool challenges and is very difficult to string together.

    2) Lion's Gulch has a great variation of tech. Most sections are rooty, rocky, loose, or steep. A few sections are all of these at the same time. You will push =)

    3) South St. Vrain receives an honorable mention for a few very technical sections. Rocks and roots galore.

    4) Templeton Trail in Palmer Park has some of the best tech in the front range. Overall on par with Dakota, but has a few section that are ridiculous.

    5) Left Hand Canyon introduces bullets into the equation. Not only do you have to ride a 2 mile rock garden, but you might get shot with an AK in the process.

    6) Pueblo Res can be super tech depending on route. Climbing up freeride and lower dog come to mind.

    7) Horse Tooth Falls north bound would be a sickO tech climb.

    A few other honorable mentions to the Deer Creek wall, the beginning of the Canyon Link trail, the big step-up mid Morrison Slide, and the right-hand step-up riding Devil's backbone clockwise.

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    Dakota Ridge is the landslide winner huh? Outside of Ned, Horsetooth and Hall I dunno much on the frontrange.

    PS: Whoa, graeson posted!

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    Definition of "Technical"

    Quote Originally Posted by xcguy
    I've got my own definition of technical, but I've learned that my idea of something could be lightyears different from the next guys idea. So, please, define "technical". Someone asked me one time in Moab if Slickrock was "technical" and I just said "...uhhhhh".
    Tech"nic*al (adj.)
    1.) Often requires more than 1 attempt to ride without dabbing.
    2.) Sometimes you are forced to take a very specific line to navigate the obstacle successfully. This may require track stands, trials-style hopping, or maybe just plain speed and momentum. Scoping out the line before trying to ride it can be helpful.
    3.) Not all technical obstacles are dangerous, however, unsuccessful attempts frequently result in face plants, crashes, scrapes, cuts and bruises. This is especially common if the victim is unable to unclip from his/her pedals at the appropriate moment.

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    Dakota Ridge? In my book doesn't compare to the Templeton Trail...and Edna Mae Bennett Trail...and a wee offshoot of the Cheyenne Trail - all in Palmer Park.

    Need proof? Want a tour?...let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeCOLORADO
    Dakota Ridge? In my book doesn't compare to the Templeton Trail...and Edna Mae Bennett Trail...and a wee offshoot of the Cheyenne Trail - all in Palmer Park.

    Need proof? Want a tour?...let me know.
    Yes please!! Although if'n I'm going all the way to the springs, I'll probably want to do Pipline et al. But sometimes that can't always be done...so Palmer it just may be!

    One point of clarification: Techy up or techy down? IMO techy downs are a lot easier than techy ups. Or is that just me?

    Also, one thing to consider with Dakota Ridge, there are many line options. From the easy/obvious to "that's a line?" Know what I mean?

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    I'm outa town starting tomorrow morning through Sunday evening.

    Let me know when you want to check out Palmer. I'm sure we could get a regular Colorado Springs wrecking crew to come out and show off our gem in the city.

    Mondays - anytime
    Tue, Wed, Thu - mid-day
    Friday - anytime (I ride Palmer every Friday at 6am, except the 7th)
    Most Satrudays...anytime
    Sundays - no go

    Palmer is technical up and down. I try to hit all those trails I mentioned in different directions to mix up what/how I'll hit each section. There's even a section that links Templeton to the Lazyland area that is very steep and techno - just remembered that one. That little bugger has me puckering and working the adrenal gland every time - not even a chance of riding up it unless you're Ryan Leech.

    Speaking of lines...I do suffer from an acute case of "Line Disease".
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    Incomplete list.

    For those of us in NoColo (in no particular order):
    Round Mtn, Crosier, Indian
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    Quote Originally Posted by singletrack
    Dakota Ridge is the landslide winner huh? Outside of Ned, Horsetooth and Hall I dunno much on the frontrange.

    PS: Whoa, graeson posted!
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    Hey Joel, nice work on the Chap. That bike looks angry. Look what we found in your back yard

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Incomplete list.

    For those of us in NoColo (in no particular order):
    Round Mtn, Crosier, Indian
    That's the 'off the beaten' path forest stuff that we don't want anyone to know about!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ignazjr
    That's the 'off the beaten' path forest stuff that we don't want anyone to know about!
    Uhh.....right !
    And by "technical" I mean that these trails are groomed flat singletrack. No need to take a second look. Move along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeCOLORADO
    Dakota Ridge? In my book doesn't compare to the Templeton Trail...and Edna Mae Bennett Trail...and a wee offshoot of the Cheyenne Trail - all in Palmer Park.

    Need proof? Want a tour?...let me know.
    Oh oh, me too. I'd like a tour.

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    Yes, if you're into technical riding, I would HIGHLY recommend a trip down to the Springs to meet up with some of our brethren down in those parts. I met up with some guys last week to hit Palmer. I think we did Templeton. It was relentless. There's obviously crazy stuff tucked away all over the place, but for being super-accessible right in town, it can't be beat. Actually, I'd say it's some of the longest and most consistently technical riding I've seen, even including Fruita, Moab, etc. We rode for a solid 2.5 hours with few breaks from the rocks and supposedly there's a lot more stuff in there. Definitely helps to have some locals show you the lines. Again, highly recommended. S

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    i <3 what DSR said. great stuff in palmer, and i've not even seen/ridden all of it. i for sure want to be getting down there more this year. good on a big bike, or a beefy hardtail, IMO.

    anyone else having fantasy ideas of some magical trail that takes all the best/favourite techy bits from different trails and hooks them into one ride?????? mmmmmmmmm yeah!

    i drool over something like holy cross hooked into moore fun, and being able to hit them all together over here on the front range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrublover

    anyone else having fantasy ideas of some magical trail that takes all the best/favourite techy bits from different trails and hooks them into one ride?????? mmmmmmmmm yeah!.
    And they're all downhill, right? Or just a little bit of climbing?

    Not really, actually. I like the different feel of different rides. Sometimes I even *gasp* like the nontechnical trails.
    Take the long cut, we'll get there eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Debaser
    And they're all downhill, right? Or just a little bit of climbing?

    Not really, actually. I like the different feel of different rides. Sometimes I even *gasp* like the nontechnical trails.

    no, good uphill techy sections too! and a good mix of fast/smooth/tight/twisty thrown into the mix.

    techy climbing is pretty d@mn fun in its own right!
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