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    Local Trail Conditions

    This sticky has been established in order to quickly post and find information on local trail conditions this winter. If you'd like to participate after riding a trail please reply to this thread providing any information you have, and including the trail name in the title.

    Hopefully this will help us all more easily find ridable trails this winter, and help keep riders from unnecessarily driving out and riding in adverse trail conditions. Happy riders, less trail damage. It's a good thing.


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    Apex/Chimney Gulch

    As of this afternoon, there were still wet/snowy spots with a bit of mud on mid-upper Apex, around the Enchanted Forest (didn't go in, just passed right by). Slushy and muddy in spots, should dry out a little tomorrow. Chimney Gulch was for the most part dry, with a few wet spots, but nothing slushy at all. Where'd everybody else ride?

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    Hall Ranch

    With the rest of the people on the planet. The good news is it was dry as a bone.

    Thanks Freshpants, for replying. That's another reason to get something like this going. It will hopefully keep everybody from descending upon the same trails. MW and Hall always dry first, and get the most traffic. Maybe by sharing this information we can all spread out a bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Freshpants
    As of this afternoon, there were still wet/snowy spots with a bit of mud on mid-upper Apex, around the Enchanted Forest (didn't go in, just passed right by). Slushy and muddy in spots, should dry out a little tomorrow. Chimney Gulch was for the most part dry, with a few wet spots, but nothing slushy at all. Where'd everybody else ride?

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    Lair O' The Bear's Bear Creek Trail was muddy, slushy and wet in places today. No quagmire, but probably best left to dry. In the dry areas, which was most of it, traction was superb.

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    Thanks CraigH

    I was just about to PM you to make it a sticky.

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    Rode Dakota Ridge / MW

    From s1ngletrack and dbabuser: Rode Dakota Ridge / MW yesterday - it's good except for Morrison Slide

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    Chimney Gulch to Lookout Mtn

    From Jdub: Still had some snow on the top 1/2 and was getting a little muddy in parts on the way back down, but certainly rideable.

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    Mt. Falcon

    From rapwithtom: Great! A few snow patches, all rideable...rode up Castle, did Parmalee, Old ute Trail, Devil's Elbow Trail...how often do you get sunny and 70 while you are riding through snow in shorts? Seriously, not more than 100 yards of snow for all the riding...a little standing water and a little mud also, but generally great! Remember, stay on the trail, ride through mud and water, do not widen the trail!

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    Deer Creek

    From spincycle: Rode Deer creek today ,mud and snow upto meadowlark trail then soild slush/snow/mud up to red mesa trail , red mesa in pretty dry.

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    Fyi

    Hey guys (singletrack, dbabuser, rapwithtom and spincycle):

    I hope you don't mind me cutting and pasting your trail reports here. I just wanted to make F70 had all information in one place. If we can get a lot of information within this sticky, it'll be nice to be able to open it throughout the winter, switch the Display Mode to "Linear," and easily get the most up to date reports.

    I'm riding Apex today and will provide a report later ...


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    The Boulder Creek Path is in great shape.

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    Thanks KW, I wasn't sure, and I've really been meaning to hit that up for the last few weeks. Good to know I won't do any damage today.

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    Buffalo Creek - 11/06/04

    We rode Strawberry, Baldy, Gashouse, Buck, Millers, and who know what other loops from Pine Valley yesterday and it was all in good shape.

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    Apex ... better than you think ...

    The only real snow to be found on Apex is on the Apex trail, in small segments, mostly past the Sluice Box Junction. Enchanted is perfect, not only dry, but way tacky -- get yo' self some while the gettin's good!! Grubstake's awesome too. Work this one in before the snow flies if you can ...

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    Chimney Gulch

    Good to go. One very short (30') segment of snow. Awesome.

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    Walker Ranch

    Very dry and good to go. Based on friend's report.

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    Devil's Backbone

    Very dry and loose. Good riding today, lots of hikers but only a couple of bikers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    Thanks KW, I wasn't sure, and I've really been meaning to hit that up for the last few weeks. Good to know I won't do any damage today.
    No problem, just wanted to let all the radcore peeps know it's good to shred. Just a word of warning though... If you go by way of Skunk Creek, watch out for the dead squirrell in the middle of the path, near the junction.

    I hear that Community Ditch is still in play too, but with only 6" of travel I'm afraid to ride it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitchenware
    I hear that Community Ditch is still in play too, but with only 6" of travel I'm afraid to ride it.
    There's no reason to speak of the goods on a public forum buddy. Shhhh.
    Take the long cut, we'll get there eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Debaser
    There's no reason to speak of the goods on a public forum buddy. Shhhh.
    Hey, it's not like I gave driving directions.

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    White Ranch

    Rode up to the fork, down lower mustang, then back down belcher to the lower lot yesterday. There was a little mud on the lower parts, especially around the creek, but everything else was good.

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    Good job!

    White Ranch:
    As of yesterday (Sunday 7 Nov, @ 4,00)
    Some snow and ice on portions of Maverick as well as Belcher just below the upper parking lot. Lower Mustang like F.E. said great shape. Round-up it's fine and the portion of Belcher above the Sawmill cutoff is in excellent shape too.
    The rock garden at the bottom is dry and dusty and in the dark a bit of a challenge

    As a side note I made it to the Sawmill cut off with only one stop.

    Anyone ride Bergen Peak lately?

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    Me thinks there needs to be a better way to do this (the sticky). Maybe a weekly sticky w/ the dates or something, so that by the end of the winter (december being my guess ) we don't have a 4K reply post that needs to be weeded through just to see if Hall is rideable.

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    Honestly, a FR website would be ideal, not to unsimilar to what Dave has going on at redstone.

    http://www.redstonecyclery.com/BLtrailcond.htm

    Something clearcut, with a listing of all the trails ONCE, and the most recent condition next to them. If I wasn't so lazy, I'd offer to host it. Actually I take it back...I'll offer to host it, if some other slacker offers to edit it on regular basis. I'll give them FTP access to my site...(Kitchen...you out there).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    Honestly, a FR website would be ideal, not to unsimilar to what Dave has going on at redstone.

    http://www.redstonecyclery.com/BLtrailcond.htm

    Something clearcut, with a listing of all the trails ONCE, and the most condition next to them.


    Yeah, I pretty much go there for anything remotely close to Boulder/Lyons, which of course, is pretty close to what I usually ride.
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    I agree, to combat that I've just been switching to linear mode, scrolling down to the bottom and reading only the most recent posts. Perhaps there's a way the moderator can make this thread sort in descending order so that the most recent posts at the top. Do you think that solution would work? Or is there another way you'd suggest to modify it?

    Thanks for your thoughts.

    Quote Originally Posted by EricTheRed
    Me thinks there needs to be a better way to do this (the sticky). Maybe a weekly sticky w/ the dates or something, so that by the end of the winter (december being my guess ) we don't have a 4K reply post that needs to be weeded through just to see if Hall is rideable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    Honestly, a FR website would be ideal, not to unsimilar to what Dave has going on at redstone.

    http://www.redstonecyclery.com/BLtrailcond.htm

    Something clearcut, with a listing of all the trails ONCE, and the most recent condition next to them. If I wasn't so lazy, I'd offer to host it. Actually I take it back...I'll offer to host it, if some other slacker offers to edit it on regular basis. I'll give them FTP access to my site...(Kitchen...you out there).
    I could throw together a quick database driven website that would be updateable via the web, so anyone with local trail conditions could go to a page, enter the trail condition and throw a timestamp on there.

    Probably won't be pretty but it would work. I don't currently have any hosting space anymore, but if someone wanted to host it, I'd build it.

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    How big we talking? I could spare maybe 100 meg or so. And what would drive it? Mysql? I use yahoo small bus., so only have a handful of choices for the backend. Assuming we could settle on that, I could host it, then we could ask for a link in the right hand corner of this page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    How big we talking? I could spare maybe 100 meg or so. And what would drive it? Mysql? I use yahoo small bus., so only have a handful of choices for the backend. Assuming we could settle on that, I could host it, then we could ask for a link in the right hand corner of this page.
    No I'm talking like it would probably be under 10MB. The database is tiny (I typically use MS Access unles MS SQL Server is available) and I don't plan on doing a ton of fancy graphics.

    Real simple vision would be a list of trails, click on a trail and see the latest conditions updates to that trail. I think I'd probably put a password on the posting of trail conditions to keep the 4th graders from posting crap, but it would allow everyone on here to post updates when they ride trails. The big thing to me is if I do this I want it to be able to be very little administration from any of us, but provide good information as to where to ride.

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    Hmm...I take it back, it looks like I don't have access to MYSql at my acct level(or perl for that matter). I'm not sure how you'd access a DB w/o having something supported on the backend...but I don't know much about MS Access.

    At some point I'm sure I'll be upgrading to the level that has MySQL...just not anytime soon. I was looking at the db access stuff. Looks pretty easy to write up a couple perl scripts to intereact with the DB, and create web pages on the fly.

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    Fyi

    Hey guys, thanks for your ideas on this. Just an FYI: In the meantime I'm working to see if this thread can default to sort in descending order by date, and automatically delete posts over 3 weeks old. If this isn't possible perhaps one of us (I'm happy to do it) be granted some type of moderator access to manage the thread, deleting old information.

    Hope to ride with ya'll sometime. I'll have info on Bergen and Alderfer later tonight ...



    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    Hmm...I take it back, it looks like I don't have access to MYSql at my acct level(or perl for that matter). I'm not sure how you'd access a DB w/o having something supported on the backend...but I don't know much about MS Access.

    At some point I'm sure I'll be upgrading to the level that has MySQL...just not anytime soon. I was looking at the db access stuff. Looks pretty easy to write up a couple perl scripts to intereact with the DB, and create web pages on the fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TVC15
    Hey guys, thanks for your ideas on this. Just an FYI: In the meantime I'm working to see if this thread can default to sort in descending order by date, and automatically delete posts over 3 weeks old. If this isn't possible perhaps one of us (I'm happy to do it) be granted some type of moderator access to manage the thread, deleting old information.

    Hope to ride with ya'll sometime. I'll have info on Bergen and Alderfer later tonight ...

    Sounds good to me. I might have a place where I can stick this small website if we need, won't be a pretty url but it should work. I'll see about throwing together a small database tonight and see how the theory works in reality. It may be more trouble than its worth, but I enjoy tinkering with things like this. Plus the weather looks crappy for the next couple days so I won't be riding as much...

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    Bergen Peak (and Alderfer)

    Good to go! Bergen only has about 1/2" of snow just before and just after the last two switchbacks near the Scenic View sign on at the top of the Bergen Peak Trail. Alderfer's good too! Some of you lucky sumbiotches might just be able to get one of these two trails before the weather comes in tomorrow ... have fun

    Quote Originally Posted by Jdub
    Sounds good to me. I might have a place where I can stick this small website if we need, won't be a pretty url but it should work. I'll see about throwing together a small database tonight and see how the theory works in reality. It may be more trouble than its worth, but I enjoy tinkering with things like this. Plus the weather looks crappy for the next couple days so I won't be riding as much...
    Thanks Jdub! Looking forward to getting any system that works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmkidIII
    Honestly, a FR website would be ideal, not to unsimilar to what Dave has going on at redstone.

    http://www.redstonecyclery.com/BLtrailcond.htm

    Something clearcut, with a listing of all the trails ONCE, and the most recent condition next to them.
    Thanks Kirk. If anyone notices on that page if something is way out of whack, or just wants to give me a heads up on some trail conditions, shoot me an email. I'll take all the help I can get on it and will update it daily if necessary. dave@redstonecyclery.com

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    Mt. Falcon 11/14/04

    East side trails closed, scheduled to reopen Monday, November 15. Call 303 271 5975 Jeffco Trail Hotline for up to date info.
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    White Ranch

    East side trails closed, scheduled to reopen Monday, November 15. Call 303 271 5975 Jeffco Trail Hotline for up to date info.

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    Green Mountain 11/14/04

    Good to go.

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    Matthews Winters

    OK, but not quite ready for prime time due to mud on north facing trails on Red Rocks trail.

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    Chimney Gulch 11/14/04

    Damp and snowy at top, but not muddy and very ridable.


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    Pretty much everything under 8000' is ready to go up in the north country - ie, northern Boulder County. Watch out for Heil, though. The road and lower trail to the bridge is all clay and retains moisture longer than about anywhere else.
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    Alderfer / Three Sisters

    All Sisters side trails dry. Evergreen Mountain trails have about 1/2" of snow on them, but just slushy, very ridable and in very good condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TVC15
    Very dry and good to go. Based on friend's report.
    Did a loop at Walker this afternoon, 99% great condition.

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    Swiki

    How about a you use a swiki for the website. It is designed so that anyone can update any part of the website, and to my understanding is very easy to set up. The server space is still an issue, however, but at least the time consuming process of setting up a database driven website should be removed. Either way, I think it is a brilliant idea to have some place where people update the conditions. This will not only be useful for the winter, but also for the early spring. Just my 2¢.

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    White Ranch 11/16/04

    All trails open and good to go. In fact, I had to look for mud, only found it on the steep part of Belcher Hill that leads to Mustang, and down Mustang's water bars. Everything else is dry. Awesome riding. Counted no less than 14 deer. They're all mated up. It's soooo cute.

    Quote Originally Posted by MK_
    How about a you use a swiki for the website. It is designed so that anyone can update any part of the website, and to my understanding is very easy to set up. The server space is still an issue, however, but at least the time consuming process of setting up a database driven website should be removed. Either way, I think it is a brilliant idea to have some place where people update the conditions. This will not only be useful for the winter, but also for the early spring. Just my 2?.

    _MK
    Great idea, but over my head. I'll post updates anywhere. I just want a place where anyone can post a condition and that doesn't rely on someone to post up the information. Sh*t happens, vacations happen, people get busy. No middle men is always a good idea. PS: I am working to obtain moderator-type access so that I can just manage this thread, deleting outdated information after snow storms, so we'd just start fresh every few weeks. Gregg, the administrator is considering it, so wish me luck. If that's possible, mtbr may be the easiest site to post up the information. We're all here anyway ... too much so ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by TVC15
    I just want a place where anyone can post a condition and that doesn't rely on someone to post up the information.
    http://www.boa-mtb.org/trailreport/

    Exactly what you're looking for for but, since it's BOA, it's all Boulder area trails. Not much user interaction, though.
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    Excellent. WTF doesn't Jeffco do this? Anybody? God knows they have the money. I'm happy to submit the idea but wouldn't expect it to be built this decade.

    Edit: I just emailed the idea with that link to T. Rock (Jeffco's Community Relations Director) and B Silver (their webmaster). If I even get a response I'll keel over from shock.

    Quote Originally Posted by ignazjr
    http://www.boa-mtb.org/trailreport/

    Exactly what you're looking for for but, since it's BOA, it's all Boulder area trails. Not much user interaction, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TVC15
    Excellent. WTF doesn't Jeffco do this? Anybody? God knows they have the money. I'm happy to submit the idea but wouldn't expect it to be built this decade.

    Edit: I just emailed the idea with that link to T. Rock (Jeffco's Community Relations Director) and B Silver (their webmaster). If I even get a response I'll keel over from shock.
    The link below will tell if its closed to mud, thats about as good as it gets for our world class JeffCo trail system...

    http://www.co.jefferson.co.us/ext/dp...c/trlscond.htm

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    The difference there is one is BOA. BOA is NOT related to the gobment. There is no such organization to my knowledge in the Jeffco area...least one with the prescense as BOA. There's TCS, but I can't even sign up to me a member of that organization.

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    Keeling over from shock ...

    Got a response from Jeffco. Not that it helps, but a reply is a reply ...

    Thanks for your input. We agree, keeping a running update of current
    trail conditions would surely help the park visitor but worry that
    having an accurate update of hundreds of trails thoughtout our park
    system on a weekly basic might prove to be a challenge. We are about
    to enhance our trail conditions web page though, to include more trail
    information in addition to muddy trail closures and "new trail" news.

    Thanks,
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    In the meantime, I have about 3 weeks of vacation to waste between now and the end of the year. I plan on utilizing it doing local trail condition reconnaissance, and will post any and all helpful information here ...


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    matthews/winter - dakota ridge - thanksgiving

    matthews/winters running clear except on the north face where it is slushy and icy. dakota ridge is completely dry except in the saddle where you climb out on the water bar stairs.

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    Falcon - Thanksgiving Day

    Lots of packed down snow on the trail particularly after the saddle on Castle. Paramlee Gulch is fairly good. All sections very rideable. Very fun.

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    Chimney Gulch to Apex

    Quote Originally Posted by TVC15
    This sticky has been established in order to quickly post and find information on local trail conditions this winter. If you'd like to participate after riding a trail please reply to this thread providing any information you have, and including the trail name in the title.

    Hopefully this will help us all more easily find ridable trails this winter, and help keep riders from unnecessarily driving out and riding in adverse trail conditions. Happy riders, less trail damage. It's a good thing.

    Rode up Chimney Gulch over to and down Apex. Mixed trail conditions: snow pack, light mud, and dry trail. Good fun. Almost all of it rideable but often slow going. Good fun. Of course as I write this post the day after Thanksgiving it is getting cold out and more weather is on the way.

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    Matthews Winters 12/7/04 - Don't waste your time ...

    There was a lot of ridable snow on the Red Rocks side today, but given the depth of the snow and its dense pack, along with this week's weather forecast, expect lots more serious ice very soon. The entire ridge even has lots of snow, ice, and mud.

    So, unless you're a rider who enjoys Zamboni prepped ice and likes riding with seven pounds of gluey mud caked onto your tires and mashed into the deepest recesses of your drive train, I'd pass on this ride until Friday -- at least. Whenever you decide to do it, I highly recommend bringing along a wire brush and some Ice Wax ... you're gonna need it.

    (In fact the mud was so bad I actually was forced to clean my pride and joy at the *wince* spray car wash afterwards. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go do about eighty-five Hail Marys in repentance.)

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    ... and if we just ... Green Mountain 12/29/04

    OK, I have this friend who just emailed me a trail report for Green Mountain. I laughed so hard I have to post it just as it was sent to me. Enjoy. Better get the trails before the next snow fall, fellas ...

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    Every WOMAN that I've come across today has been grumpy. What gives? Conspiracy maybe? The sharing of grumbling points, perhaps?

    I DID call it RED ROCKS! I really did. THEN I voted against it. Monte Verde, Monte Verde, Monte Verde; can't make me stop.

    Anyway, to serious matters; I rode Monte effin Verde today AND yesterday. Utah Trail is as dry as my wit. Rusty Sign is muddy in places but very rideable. Tomorrow I will ride; what time's good for you?

    Merry effin New Year,

    ~W

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    3-Sisters/Elk Meadows

    Went to check out Evergreen on Thursday. It's been warm/dry so I thought I'd give it a shot.

    3-Sisters
    I-C-Y up Dedisse trail. I should have known... but even my Nokian Extreme tires couldn't get a grip.

    I didn't attempt heading around the hill to the other parking lots... was a bit too sore from my trek back down the hill so I decided to rest a bit and go check out Elk Meadows.

    Elk Meadows
    Still pretty icy in the trees but nothing like Dedisse. Was a bit sloppy/icy heading up the first hill past the junction of Elk Ridge Trail with Sleepy S so I turned around and headed up one of the well-used double-tracks just below tree line.

    Still some icy spots but the Nokian's hooked up nicely and I sailed across several long stretches without the typical wide-eyed fear of these spots that have left me imitating my favorite slip-n-slide moves typically reserved for warmer weather in a controlled environment.

    Ended up with a much shorter ride than I'd hoped for, but it was a ride none-the-less.

    JL

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    3 Sisters/Elk Meadows

    Went to check out Evergreen on Thursday. It's been warm/dry so I thought I'd give it a shot.

    3-Sisters
    I-C-Y up Dedisse trail. I should have known... but even my Nokian Extreme tires couldn't get a grip.

    --sorry for the duplicate post... didn't realize I posted this as a quick reply to another thread--

    I didn't attempt heading around the hill to the other parking lots... was a bit too sore from my trek back down the hill so I decided to rest a bit and go check out Elk Meadows.

    Elk Meadows
    Still pretty icy in the trees but nothing like Dedisse. Was a bit sloppy/icy heading up the first hill past the junction of Elk Ridge Trail with Sleepy S so I turned around and headed up one of the well-used double-tracks just below tree line.

    Still some icy spots but the Nokian's hooked up nicely and I sailed across several long stretches without the typical wide-eyed fear of these spots that have left me imitating my favorite slip-n-slide moves typically reserved for warmer weather in a controlled environment.

    Ended up with a much shorter ride than I'd hoped for, but it was a ride none-the-less.

    JL

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    Has anyone ridden since the most recent storm on Sunday night? I was hoping to ride something on Saturday.

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    As of 3pm today, Green mountain still has snow covering the trails, even on the west side. I think it will be a long shot to dry out by the weekend... I saw some tracks going up the fire road on the west side, but it still looked pretty wet and I turned around before getting more than 100' up the trail. I believe that fire road will be dried out by Saturday if you just wanted a straight climb. They seem to have recently laid a bunch of rock on that road, making it less muddy - although I'm not sure what it will be like up near the top.

    Zorro is snow packed, as are all the local haunts up near Golden. All the paved bike paths are clear though, so might be a good weekend for a road bike. I know I know, I'm sad too.

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    Everything's Dry!!

    I just got back with my portable generator and a hair dryer from Dakota Ridge, Matthews Winters, Green Mountain, White Ranch, Alderfer, Falcon, and Lair o' the Bear. There isn't any mud any more. Go ride your bicycles.



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    2/12 Green Mountain/Dakota Ridge Conditions

    Rode DR/GM yesterday, and didn't see too much mud. In the trees on at the top of DR, and on east facing slopes in the singletrack on GM. The Zigzag from DR to GM was muddy up top after the steps, but dry after that. Nothing more than a 80ish yard stretch at a time. Go ride.

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    02-14-2005 Dakota Ridge / Matthews Winters

    Dakota Ridge was in awesome shape - mainly dry. The south facing climb near with the log steps was completely frozen and icy (unrideable uphill - even if anyone could do it when dry).



    Matthews Winters was quite a mess. The only really dry place was the real south end of it and the south face climb of the Morrison Slide trail.

    This is what MW will do to your bike (I mean the mud, not make it 7.5 inches of travel):

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    white with sideways blowing snow

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    Quote Originally Posted by sevenup
    white with sideways blowing snow
    I may actually get to use these recently purchased Nokian studded tires now.

    Wheeeeeee!!!

    Alright, I'll calm down now. Maybe go to decaf...

    Dave
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    Horsetooth Mountain Park 4/19 9pm

    Just got back and things are in pretty good shape as follows:
    Towers road to the towers: Mostly dry, some puddles, slight bit of runoff just below Mill Creek
    West Ridge: Mostly dry, couple of small puddles
    Wathen: Wet at the top in the roots and rocks, a few more wet spots as you go down
    Carey Springs: Dry
    Sawmill: Dry
    Nomad: couple of small puddles

    MW

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    Idea! Kill This Thread!

    Or at least un-sticky it and start a new one.

    The idea behind the "Local trail conditions" thread is great. It's just that it doesn't work very well. If there are new messages, you have to carefully scan through every message (going back to last November ) before you find the recent message that might contain useful information.

    I would suggest keeping this type of thread if people reply ONLY to the original message, keeping it "linear". That way new messages will always be at the bottom of the list.

    Or, people could just post messages (like they do anyway) with titles like "Hall Ranch conditions 4/20/05". Those are probably the most useful for this purpose.

    In any case, this thread should be made un-sticky because it's currently a pain to use.

    Just my opinion...happy trails, everyone.

    bock


    Quote Originally Posted by TVC15
    This sticky has been established in order to quickly post and find information on local trail conditions this winter. If you'd like to participate after riding a trail please reply to this thread providing any information you have, and including the trail name in the title.

    Hopefully this will help us all more easily find ridable trails this winter, and help keep riders from unnecessarily driving out and riding in adverse trail conditions. Happy riders, less trail damage. It's a good thing.


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    Road Deer Creek Last night 5/25/05

    The trail was is good shape and fun as always.
    I hate the stairs next to the wall, as it seems during the installation, that they smoothed out the section some. No longer really the wall of death.
    There is some water on the trail, as the creek is getting some good run off, and is pressing its banks.
    Both loops are in good shape and rideable.

    Have fun.

    Question, has anyone rode Deer Creek to South Valley? I am wondering if it is worth it and what the conection is like. I have been contemplating doing Deerk Creek to South Valley to Ken Caryl back to South Valley back to the lot at Deer Creek,

    Thanks.

    Z.

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