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    Living in Golden

    My wife and I are considering moving to Golden and I am interested to hear a bit about the area.

    We're interested for the easy access to trails, access to the mountains, and access to Denver.

    From what we've seen, most of the area is pretty exposed without a lot of tree cover. We'd love to live within big trees vs open areas.

    I'd also like to be able to ride to trails from my front door.

    Within the realms of reality (regarding real estate pricing), where are the best areas to live in Golden to meet these needs?

    Thanks for your help!

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    I think to get the big tree thing you'd better live right down town.

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    One of those big storms last spring took that one out.
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    see 'broomfield' thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepItSimpleSpeed
    My wife and I are considering moving to Golden and I am interested to hear a bit about the area.

    We're interested for the easy access to trails, access to the mountains, and access to Denver.

    From what we've seen, most of the area is pretty exposed without a lot of tree cover. We'd love to live within big trees vs open areas.

    I'd also like to be able to ride to trails from my front door.

    Within the realms of reality (regarding real estate pricing), where are the best areas to live in Golden to meet these needs?

    Thanks for your help!
    What kind of real estate pricing were you considering? After one year of living without the family, I finally take possession of my house in Golden on 9/22. There are quite a few places you can be right on the trails. However, most of those are going to be pricey ($500,000+). As for tree cover, I think you'll be hard pressed to find it unless you buy something in the Golden Gate area. Then again, you could just plant some trees.

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    if you want mature trees in golden, you'll need to live in the city proper (i.e. downtown, around CSM campus). i'd suggest the area around the rec center, 'cept there are a couple of ruffians who live nearby and bring down the property values...








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    Quote Originally Posted by gotdirt
    if you want mature trees in golden, you'll need to live in the city proper (i.e. downtown, around CSM campus). i'd suggest the area around the rec center, 'cept there are a couple of ruffians who live nearby and bring down the property values...

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    there's a nice senior center going in. buy now for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepItSimpleSpeed
    My wife and I are considering moving to Golden and I am interested to hear a bit about the area.

    We're interested for the easy access to trails, access to the mountains, and access to Denver.

    From what we've seen, most of the area is pretty exposed without a lot of tree cover. We'd love to live within big trees vs open areas.

    I'd also like to be able to ride to trails from my front door.

    Within the realms of reality (regarding real estate pricing), where are the best areas to live in Golden to meet these needs?

    Thanks for your help!
    I live in Golden--Just south of the town itself in an area that contains 3 subdivisions (Heritage Dells-older houses, Tripp Ranch-12 year old houses, and Eagle Ridge-new houses). Lots of trees in Heritage Dells, and Tripp Ranch--not so much in the new area. In Tripp Ranch, there are 3 houses for sale right now. It's in riding distance to LOTS of trails. Lived there for 2 years-my bike hasn't seen my bikerack on my car in quite some time.

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    Gotta agree with russman! I am sitting in my computer room typing this - 2nd story in Heritage Dells and could be looking at the Apex trails, but there's a huge tree in my front yard blocking the view!!! Like Russman mentioned Heritage Dells is older - most homes built around 1980 - most around 2,500 SF including basement - most for $350,000 or under. Tripp Ranch is newer - around 1994 I believe, and a little pricier. There is also another neighborhood kinda between Heritage Dells/Tripp Ranch and the newer Eagle Ridge - can't remember subdivision's name, but smaller houses for the most part some still go for under $300,000. Last I checked there was one on the market for $289,000.
    I have lived here since '99, and never once regretted it. A couple minutes (literally) to I70 for easy mountain (~40 min to closest ski area, within an hour of many others) or downtown Denver access (20 min), a minute or 2 bike ride to Apex, 10 minute ride to Chimney Gulch and Matthews/Winters, Green Mtn, White Ranch, Falcon are all w/in riding distance as well.
    keepitsimplespeed - PM me if you wanna talk about it more. Where do you live now?
    russman - we should get a neighborhood mtn bike club going! There's tons of riders around here and great people...

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    Thanks for the feedback guys. Sounds like I should look at Heritage Dells. I'll take a look next time in town.
    Is this area suburban...nothing but houses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepItSimpleSpeed
    Is this area suburban...nothing but houses?
    welcome to the front range!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepItSimpleSpeed
    Is this area suburban...nothing but houses?
    Right in the neighborhoods there is nothing but houses, Shelton Elementary School and a park or 2. Right outside the neighborhoods proper on Heritage Rd are a couple gas stations (that typically charge .15 more than anyone else around), a bank, strip mall, day care - children's world or something, etc.

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    is heritage dells the area by apex?

    my big question has always been where is that damn highway going to go (470)

    i work in golden and would love to live in golden, but it seems pricey for me (poor teacher)..but someday i hope to be able to do it..i lived there for a year when i first moved to denver and loved it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by billybobzia
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    my big question has always been where is that damn highway going to go (470)
    It's gonna go right up where 93 is right now.

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    they're putting a highway in thru golden on 93, when?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nOOby
    they're putting a highway in thru golden on 93, when?
    There is still much debate on the issue; the city of Golden is fighting it and will continue to do so. In addition, the state doesn't even have the funding for it as of now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billybobzia
    is heritage dells the area by apex?
    YUPPER


    Quote Originally Posted by billybobzia
    i work in golden and would love to live in golden, but it seems pricey for me (poor teacher)
    Where do you teach? I have a son at Shelton (4th grd) and a daughter at Bell (8th grd)


    Keepitsimplespeed, it is a little pricey, but has been well worth it for me and my family!! Wouldn't even wanna live anywhere else except in the mountains somewhere...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nOOby
    they're putting a highway in thru golden on 93, when?
    Some time between now and when Hell freezes over.

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    Come to Green Mountain and Lakewood. Same trail access and it doesn't smell like Hops!

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    [QUOTE=andychrysler]YUPPER



    Where do you teach? I have a son at Shelton (4th grd) and a daughter at Bell (8th grd)


    i teach at compass montessori on the east side of north table..really great and unique school if you are ever looking for an alternative to what you have.. my kids go there but they are little ones still..

    can't wait to live in golden..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    when Hell freezes over.

    not going to happen, al gore told me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rugby Chuck
    Come to Green Mountain and Lakewood. Same trail access and it doesn't smell like Hops!

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    What the hell is wrong with the smell of hops?

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    Although Compass is in WR, please convince my wife it is a great school so I have a good reason(my real reason is trail access) to move to Golden. We're completely set on Montessori and toured Compass a year ago but she wants DCS Montessori in Castle Pines, the only trail within 30 minutes drive from there is Indian Creek. Right now I'm far enough as it is from most of the FR trails except Waterton and Deer Creek and she wants to go even further east. Please help a brotha out.
    [QUOTE=billybobzia]
    Quote Originally Posted by andychrysler
    YUPPER



    Where do you teach? I have a son at Shelton (4th grd) and a daughter at Bell (8th grd)


    i teach at compass montessori on the east side of north table..really great and unique school if you are ever looking for an alternative to what you have.. my kids go there but they are little ones still..

    can't wait to live in golden..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    It's gonna go right up where 93 is right now.
    Property values in close prox may only go down about 20% but you'll be able to sit in traffic faster than you did before. Sounds like a win win.

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    Seriously..

    Quote Originally Posted by dash
    Property values in close prox may only go down about 20% but you'll be able to sit in traffic faster than you did before. Sounds like a win win.
    Seriously, folks. If you live in or near where they want to run the NW Parkway extension (basically Broomfield, down Indiana, through Leyden, out to the intersection of 64th and Hwy 93), you need to get it in gear NOW.

    The original 9 mile boondoggle stretch of the NW Parkway has been 'leased' to a Portuguese company in order to stave off bankruptcy. As a condition of the lease, the Portuguese have put ONE HUNDRED MILLION dollars in escrow, to be paid only if the NW Parkway is extended, first up to Hwy 128, then to the intersection of Hwy 93 and 64th (by the football stadium). Basically they are trying to extort a $1 Billion highway out of the surrounding communities by holding payments to Broomfield and Lafayette hostage.

    Don't buy the 'it will be paid for by private money' bullcrap. Hundreds of millions in public money would be required. We don't need this thing. Studies have already shown that improving 93 and Indiana will help current residents more than a sprawl inducing tollway.

    Because of Golden's resistance, the Beltway proponents have now threatened to build what they can without touching Golden city limits, and dump all the traffic at 64th and 93. If you are considering Golden, think long and hard about what is going to happen if this idiotic project goes through.

    It is all a bunch of money and politics at their worst. If you live in Jeffco, PLEASE take a look at your county commissioners and ask yourself why in hell they would be behind something like this, and follow the money trail. Then vote as you see fit in 2008. We can ****can two of the morons who are behind this.

    There is some good stuff at http://www.gothebetterway.org

    We now return you to your regularly scheduled debates about where to live.

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    Good overview..

    I just found this. This kind of puts the tollway in perspective:

    http://www.denverpost.com/politics/ci_6776865

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    [QUOTE=kosayno]Although Compass is in WR, please convince my wife it is a great school so I have a good reason(my real reason is trail access) to move to Golden. We're completely set on Montessori and toured Compass a year ago but she wants DCS Montessori in Castle Pines, the only trail within 30 minutes drive from there is Indian Creek. Right now I'm far enough as it is from most of the FR trails except Waterton and Deer Creek and she wants to go even further east. Please help a brotha out.
    there are 2 campuses..one in WR ( pre-K-6) and my kids go there and one in golden (pre-K-12).. What ages are your kids.. Personally, i do not have a montessori background but wouldn't consider sending my kids anywhere else. The teachers are ridiculously passionate and amazing.. the WR campus has been around for 10+ years and it is without a doubt one of the best montessori schools in denver, if not the best..

    What does your wife need to be convinced of?.. The golden campus just added the elementary program 2 years ago, but i would send my kids there in a heartbeat too, if they had not started WR and had already made friends..
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    True, Compass is one of the best, but my wife wants THE best. There's a website that rates schools in CO and DCS rates near the very top and Montessori Peaks in Littleton rates close behind whereas Compass rates average. Teachers are amazing and compassionate at all Montessoris, that's just the way their schools are set up, which is why I would never send my kids to traditional schools. Kids are 2 1/2 and 15 mos but we've been looking since my wife was pregnant with the first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosayno
    Although Compass is in WR, please convince my wife it is a great school so I have a good reason(my real reason is trail access) to move to Golden. We're completely set on Montessori and toured Compass a year ago but she wants DCS Montessori in Castle Pines, the only trail within 30 minutes drive from there is Indian Creek. Right now I'm far enough as it is from most of the FR trails except Waterton and Deer Creek and she wants to go even further east. Please help a brotha out.


    there are 2 campuses..one in WR ( pre-K-6) and my kids go there and one in golden (pre-K-12).. What ages are your kids.. Personally, i do not have a montessori background but wouldn't consider sending my kids anywhere else. The teachers are ridiculously passionate and amazing.. the WR campus has been around for 10+ years and it is without a doubt one of the best montessori schools in denver, if not the best..

    What does your wife need to be convinced of?.. The golden campus just added the elementary program 2 years ago, but i would send my kids there in a heartbeat too, if they had not started WR and had already made friends..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosayno
    <snip> which is why I would never send my kids to traditional schools.

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    [QUOTE=kosayno]True, Compass is one of the best, but my wife wants THE best. There's a website that rates schools in CO and DCS rates near the very top and Montessori Peaks in Littleton rates close behind whereas Compass rates average. Teachers are amazing and compassionate at all Montessoris, that's just the way their schools are set up, which is why I would never send my kids to traditional schools. Kids are 2 1/2 and 15 mos but we've been looking since my wife was pregnant with the first.

    Pffftttt! Publik skool neva dun me no wrong!

    You're a bit too uppity with the private school thing. I thought the same thing when I first had kids. I put my oldest in a Friends school and my youngest in a Montessori. They lasted one year each. Nothing but upper class wanna be's paying to have their dumb kids taught. Both my kids have had a fantastic public school experience since and are in the top of their classes.

    Save your money. Buy a house in a better public school district.

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    [QUOTE=schnauzers][QUOTE=kosayno]True, Compass is one of the best, but my wife wants THE best. There's a website that rates schools in CO and DCS rates near the very top and Montessori Peaks in Littleton rates close behind whereas Compass rates average. Teachers are amazing and compassionate at all Montessoris, that's just the way their schools are set up, which is why I would never send my kids to traditional schools. Kids are 2 1/2 and 15 mos but we've been looking since my wife was pregnant with the first.



    Pffftttt! Publik skool neva dun me no wrong!

    You're a bit too uppity with the private school thing. I thought the same thing when I first had kids. I put my oldest in a Friends school and my youngest in a Montessori. They lasted one year each. Nothing but upper class wanna be's paying to have their dumb kids taught. Both my kids have had a fantastic public school experience since and are in the top of their classes.

    Save your money. Buy a house in a better public school district.[/


    Nothing but upper class wannabes paying to have their dumb kids taught. That should be the Montessori logo. Let's translate that to biking terminology. Just because you paid $6000 for a bike and a jersey full of sponsors doesn't mean I wont smoke you on a Schwinn. Kids are smart because their parents teach them. Schooling starts and ends at home. End rant

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    The only private Montessoris I know are in Denver. All my choices are public charter schools, I don't like private schools and would never pay for them. Montessori concept IMO just makes more sense. Traditional and even most private schools are only about academics period. All you do is sit in class bored out of your mind, practice little creativity, and all they care about is CSAP scores and pretty much that's all they teach is to study for that test. With the exception of some, teachers in traditionals don't really give a damn about most of the kids and are only there to make a paycheck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosayno
    True, Compass is one of the best, but my wife wants THE best. There's a website that rates schools in CO and DCS rates near the very top and Montessori Peaks in Littleton rates close behind whereas Compass rates average. Teachers are amazing and compassionate at all Montessoris, that's just the way their schools are set up, which is why I would never send my kids to traditional schools. Kids are 2 1/2 and 15 mos but we've been looking since my wife was pregnant with the first.



    Pffftttt! Publik skool neva dun me no wrong!

    You're a bit too uppity with the private school thing. I thought the same thing when I first had kids. I put my oldest in a Friends school and my youngest in a Montessori. They lasted one year each. Nothing but upper class wanna be's paying to have their dumb kids taught. Both my kids have had a fantastic public school experience since and are in the top of their classes.

    Save your money. Buy a house in a better public school district.

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    I totally agree with you. I hate to admit it but you're right about the upperclass wannabes, however I'm not one of them(my bike which i built for $1500 is worth more than my car) and don't take anything away from the whole method because of the wannabes. I just want the best for my kids as any other parents, that's why my wife and I have done our research long before the little ones are even in school. IMO Montessori is the best technique. And you're right again about kids are smart because of the parents, that's why school will only be half the education they will get. My daughter is 2 1/2 and she's already bilingual. People who meet and spend enough time with her keep going on and on about how much more advanced she is than most kids her age in almost all aspects of development. I believe in the Montessori method and will continue to raise my kids this way, not because I'm some upperclass wannabe but because I have to do what I feel is best.

    Nothing but upper class wannabes paying to have their dumb kids taught. That should be the Montessori logo. Let's translate that to biking terminology. Just because you paid $6000 for a bike and a jersey full of sponsors doesn't mean I wont smoke you on a Schwinn. Kids are smart because their parents teach them. Schooling starts and ends at home. End rant[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=kosayno]I totally agree with you. I hate to admit it but you're right about the upperclass wannabes, however I'm not one of them(my bike which i built for $1500 is worth more than my car) and don't take anything away from the whole method because of the wannabes. I just want the best for my kids as any other parents, that's why my wife and I have done our research long before the little ones are even in school. IMO Montessori is the best technique. And you're right again about kids are smart because of the parents, that's why school will only be half the education they will get. My daughter is 2 1/2 and she's already bilingual. People who meet and spend enough time with her keep going on and on about how much more advanced she is than most kids her age in almost all aspects of development. I believe in the Montessori method and will continue to raise my kids this way, not because I'm some upperclass wannabe but because I have to do what I feel is best. "


    I know they are great schools and great experiences for our little ones and there's probably "the few bad apples" theory applying here referring to parents thinking they are better than others because they can send their stupid kids to semi exclusive schools. Just as long as parents don't rely on the fact that the school cost's more so my kid must be smarter. I think it happens a lot. Just tell those little one's their going to "school", not "Montessori" and that shuttling is for sissies at Apex.

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    [QUOTE=kosayno]True, Compass is one of the best, but my wife wants THE best. There's a website that rates schools in CO and DCS rates near the very top and Montessori Peaks in Littleton rates close behind whereas Compass rates average. Teachers are amazing and compassionate at all Montessoris, that's just the way their schools are set up, which is why I would never send my kids to traditional schools. Kids are 2 1/2 and 15 mos but we've been looking since my wife was pregnant with the first.

    But what are those ratings based upon? csap scores? or a true montessori environment..you have to take into account so many things when looking at those types of things..for instance..montessori peaks is in littleton and draws from a more affluent community.. one of my co workers works at my school and peaks.. i tend to think she likes compass more based upon conversations..
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    Quote Originally Posted by kosayno
    I totally agree with you. I hate to admit it but you're right about the upperclass wannabes, however I'm not one of them(my bike which i built for $1500 is worth more than my car) and don't take anything away from the whole method because of the wannabes. I just want the best for my kids as any other parents, that's why my wife and I have done our research long before the little ones are even in school. IMO Montessori is the best technique. And you're right again about kids are smart because of the parents, that's why school will only be half the education they will get. My daughter is 2 1/2 and she's already bilingual. People who meet and spend enough time with her keep going on and on about how much more advanced she is than most kids her age in almost all aspects of development. I believe in the Montessori method and will continue to raise my kids this way, not because I'm some upperclass wannabe but because I have to do what I feel is best.

    Nothing but upper class wannabes paying to have their dumb kids taught. That should be the Montessori logo. Let's translate that to biking terminology. Just because you paid $6000 for a bike and a jersey full of sponsors doesn't mean I wont smoke you on a Schwinn. Kids are smart because their parents teach them. Schooling starts and ends at home. End rant
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    If you think it's the best method, then so be it. There are still more students in Ivy League schools who come from Public School educations than from private. I really don't think the method made any difference on my kid and keep in mind that your child will be mixed in with whomever can afford to send the children to that school. Whether the other child is a better performer or not. Public Schools offer some degree of separation for children based upon their ability.

    For example, my oldest son went to a Friends School in Haddonfield, NJ. This is one of the most affluent townn in NJ. No, I did not live in that town. He was placed into a class with John LeClaire's Daughter. LeClaire is a future hockey hall of famer who played for the Flyers. The class was taught on a level that was averaged for all the students in the class. John's daughter was slightly below average and my son slightly above. Yet, they were all taught to be the same. My son was bored. It wasn't until I put him in public school the following year that they recognized he needed a higher level class.

    I took the $11,000 a year I saved and put it in a college fund. That's a much better use of the money.

    Wow, this is way off topic. Let's get back on topic:

    Golden mountain biking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosayno
    <snip> With the exception of some, teachers in traditionals don't really give a damn about most of the kids and are only there to make a paycheck.
    I'm calling bull$hit on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosayno
    <snip> My daughter is 2 1/2 and she's already bilingual. People who meet and spend enough time with her keep going on and on about how much more advanced she is than most kids her age in almost all aspects of development.
    Ummm... I hate to break it to you, but that's just what people say to parents...

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    The Jeffco County Commissioners have shown over and over that they aren't looking out for the residents of the county they represent. All you have to do is listen to the Rosen show that is highlighted on that website:

    http://www.gothebetterway.org/PressA...ew_2-7-07.html

    Give a listen. They do need to all be voted out of office.

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    Oh - and you guys *SUCK* at quoting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    I'm calling bull$hit on this.
    yeah, people looking to get paid generally don't go into teaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nOOby
    yeah, people looking to get paid generally don't go into teaching.
    Unless they teach in Michigan.

    IME there are two types of teachers - those that do it for the love of teaching and those that want the summer off.

    I have to say the summer off is *VERY* tempting...

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    If you think it's the best method, then so be it. There are still more students in Ivy League schools who come from Public School educations than from private. I really don't think the method made any difference on my kid and keep in mind that your child will be mixed in with whomever can afford to send the children to that school. Whether the other child is a better performer or not. Public Schools offer some degree of separation for children based upon their ability.

    For example, my oldest son went to a Friends School in Haddonfield, NJ. This is one of the most affluent townn in NJ. No, I did not live in that town. He was placed into a class with John LeClaire's Daughter. LeClaire is a future hockey hall of famer who played for the Flyers. The class was taught on a level that was averaged for all the students in the class. John's daughter was slightly below average and my son slightly above. Yet, they were all taught to be the same. My son was bored. It wasn't until I put him in public school the following year that they recognized he needed a higher level class.

    I took the $11,000 a year I saved and put it in a college fund. That's a much better use of the money.

    Wow, this is way off topic. Let's get back on topic:

    Golden mountain biking! [/QUOTE]


    not all montessori schools are private..i think you know that but wanted that clarification out there..i work at a public charter montessori..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    I'm calling bull$hit on this.
    Agreed. The Schools in Golden are fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosayno
    . Just because you paid $6000 for a bike and a jersey full of sponsors doesn't mean I wont smoke you on a Schwinn. Kids are smart because their parents teach them.
    You paid 6000 for a bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepItSimpleSpeed
    My wife and I are considering moving to Golden and I am interested to hear a bit about the area.

    We're interested for the easy access to trails, access to the mountains, and access to Denver.

    From what we've seen, most of the area is pretty exposed without a lot of tree cover. We'd love to live within big trees vs open areas.

    I'd also like to be able to ride to trails from my front door.

    Within the realms of reality (regarding real estate pricing), where are the best areas to live in Golden to meet these needs?

    Thanks for your help!
    I know this topic has gone from "Golden" to NW Parkway to Schools.... I live here and love it. I know that several of the people on this board wish they lived here too. It can be a tad expensive relative to other places around. If you can afford "Location, Location, Location", come on down to Golden. I ride the trails here before and after dinner, with only about a few minutes to get from or to the trail head. There is an ever increasing of outdoor type moving here. More than likely, your neighbors will ask you if you'd like to go on their local hood ride.
    That said, the Front Range is a desert. Trees? Pffft. Good luck, but don't let that be your deciding factor. I live on Open space, again, has its advantages and disadvantages. Heritage area is okay, but very removed from Golden. There are several other places, just get a realtor that is from Golden and sells in Golden, and you'll be golden. When you do move here, I'll put you on my Golden mtb list, which is growing ever bigger and bigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosayno
    With the exception of some, teachers in traditionals don't really give a damn about most of the kids and are only there to make a paycheck.
    That's a load of crap and an amazingly ridiculous generalization; every last one of the teachers I've been exposed to in the public system here in Golden has been incredibly dedicated to each and every one of the kids in his/her class. Who in their right mind would go into teaching for the money?

    If that's really the way you feel, then I'm certain that Golden is not the place for you. Stay in Highlands Ranch or wherever you live, Golden is clearly too 'blue collar' for your wife's standards. That you have to drive to go ride your bike would be, I imagine, secondary to your other concerns in life.

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    Me to...

    Quote Originally Posted by kosayno
    With the exception of some, teachers in traditionals don't really give a damn about most of the kids and are only there to make a paycheck.
    I'm calling BS here to. Everyone in my family is or was a teacher at every level from elementary school to college professor and they SURE as hell weren't in it for the crap money.

    They did it because they're good at it and wanted to make a difference in kids' lives.
    Sorry what?

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    Well yea

    Quote Originally Posted by IndecentExposure
    You paid 6000 for a bike?
    Doesn't everyone?
    Sorry what?

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