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    Just a heads up about Keystone!

    Keystone will be closed for the next 2 WEEKS!

    FIrst email I got:
    Summit Express Lift is closed to all foot and bike traffic this week

    Monday, July 28 through Friday, August 1


    As well we are expected to be closed

    Monday, August 4 through Friday, August 8


    Now the Second:
    Do to the new River Run Gondola construction, the Summit Express Chairlift and the Keystone Bike Park will be CLOSED SATURDAY, AUGUST 2nd AND SUNDAY, AUGUST 3rd.

    SO it looks like the earliest it will be open again is August 9th...

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    Dumbass Mother****ing *******S!!!

    I have been planning this trip there for over a month now and now they let us know!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by kchri
    Dumbass Mother****ing *******S!!!

    I have been planning this trip there for over a month now and now they let us know!!!


    ASSWIPES!!!
    Good excuse to drink more beer, how about a K>B shuttle instead?

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    $hite.... AzzzWipes!!!!! I cannot believe this, I have 3 friends coming in from out of town to ride Keystone then hit Blues and Brews. We've planned this for 6 weeks now.

    If Keystone had effectively and consistently communicated this we would have altered our plans but my friends are already on their way out here. WEAK!

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    There are 8 of us coming up for beer and blues this weekend. We have been planning it since beer and blues last year. It was bad enough when we had to find someplace else to ride friday and monday, but to wipe out both sat and sun 3 days prior shows just how little biking means to Vail Resorts

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    Keystone has been relaying this for months. Maybe not this exact weekend, but they have been very vocal with their warnings that there will be significant closures throughout the summer. IMO, they've done a pretty good job about communicating the closures when they are aware they'll occur.
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    And.. SV will be having the MSC races and WP will be having Crankworx. Looks like a tough weekend for recreational lift riding..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    Keystone has been relaying this for months. Maybe not this exact weekend, but they have been very vocal with their warnings that there will be significant closures throughout the summer. IMO, they've done a pretty good job about communicating the closures when they are aware they'll occur.
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    OH MAN!!! Will WP still be open to DH or is that going to be closed due to CW? Will Sol Vista keep Drifter and Cougar open on Sunday or will it be racing only?

    And Nickle... I don't entirely agree with your endorsement of Keystone's communication policy. They have to understand that they are a destination resort with people coming in from all over the country to ride. They have consistently communicated up until this morning that the resort would be open this weekend. If they would have simply communicated this earlier we would have been able to plan accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    Keystone has been relaying this for months. Maybe not this exact weekend, but they have been very vocal with their warnings that there will be significant closures throughout the summer. IMO, they've done a pretty good job about communicating the closures when they are aware they'll occur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by athalliah
    Stop looking at things objectively. The internets isn't for that. It's for fighting and complaining.
    Nickle has gotten really soft since he offered to hug Schnauzers over his apology.

    Has vail mountain built anything new, or is it the same old dreck that they've had for years?
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    [QUOTE=edenger]OH MAN!!! Will WP still be open to DH or is that going to be closed due to CW? Will Sol Vista keep Drifter and Cougar open on Sunday or will it be racing only?QUOTE]

    There will be closures at WP. From the crankworks website:

    Thursday, 7/31
    Lower Roof of the Rockies, Long Trail, Gunbarrel, Fantasy Meadow, Mountain Goat, Lonesome Whistle, and The Boulevard below 300 Yard Walk closed until 11:00am.

    Cheyenne and The Boulevard closed 11:00am - 2:30pm.

    Friday, 8/1
    Mountain Goat closed until around 4:00pm.

    Saturday, 8/2
    Lower Arapahoe, Long Trail below 4 Points, and The Boulevard below ard walk closed until around 2:30pm. Riders of Long Trail to Four Points will be routed onto Upper Cherokee to Tunnel Hill to get back to the base. Riders of The Boulevard at 300 Yard Walk will be routed on to Boot Camp.


    http://www.crankworxcolorado.com/trail.html
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    They are using a heavy lift helicopter to fly lifts and scheduling with heli companies is very difficult, especially with so many of them on contract to fight fires in CA. You often have to go with when they are available, not when you want and they often give very short notice.

    Besides, there's lot's of great XC riding out there.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Nickle has gotten really soft since he offered to hug Schnauzers over his apology.
    I'm buying him a bigger monitor

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Has vail mountain built anything new, or is it the same old dreck that they've had for years?
    You will not find anything new or be very welcomed at Vail. That's after paying a premium to ride up on the Gondola.

    Isn't Crankworx this weekend? Why not go to WP since they'll be all decked out anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zrm
    Besides, there's lot's of great XC riding out there.....
    What, people will have to ride uphill?!!

    A somewhat related note. I thought they were building the gondy back into the parking lot and I see it only moved across the bridge. Seems like a lot of work to move the load zone 40 yards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teleken
    What, people will have to ride uphill?!!

    A somewhat related note. I thought they were building the gondy back into the parking lot and I see it only moved across the bridge. Seems like a lot of work to move the load zone 40 yards.

    I was under the impression that it was to move to the "village" for two reasons:

    1. Give the alps impression with a lift in a village.

    2. Stop hordes of people from congregating just after the bridge. I can't tell you how many times I have been smacked in the head with skis (like the three stooges) from tourons smoking like fiends with there skis over the shoulders.

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    What a bummer! Will have to ride WP. There is just no alternative to get at least one day of riding in...

    Keystone actually completely rips and replaces the old gondola. This includes base, top and all poles in between. Quite a construction project. Still bummed that they close even on a weekend now.
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    Why not just shuttle Apex?

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    Renegade, thanks for the info.

    One more question: I'm looking at the map and was wondering how the traverse from end of Mt Goat to Lower Arapahoe is? is it a climb, flat, or DH? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by zrm

    Besides, there's lot's of great XC riding out there.....

    Master of the obvious...

    We go to Keystone to ride down, not up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by edenger
    Renegade, thanks for the info.

    One more question: I'm looking at the map and was wondering how the traverse from end of Mt Goat to Lower Arapahoe is? is it a climb, flat, or DH? Thanks
    it's been a few years; as I remember it, there's a bunch of climbing. I recall hating it; it's no place to be if you have a heavy bike and you're wearing body armor.
    Did they ever open up the second lift that would take you back up to the top from near the bottom of mtn. goat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by teleken
    What, people will have to ride uphill?!!

    A somewhat related note. I thought they were building the gondy back into the parking lot and I see it only moved across the bridge. Seems like a lot of work to move the load zone 40 yards.
    This might be speculation, but I thought they were adding a stop at mid-mountain also..

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    Quote Originally Posted by $ally Hu$tle
    This might be speculation, but I thought they were adding a stop at mid-mountain also..
    They are and that will be a welcome change from the iced out custer fvck that is river run.

    Boo to not being open this weekend, where the hell i'm I going to ride with everything f-ed up near by? Snowmass? quick trip to Whistler

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    Bummer...I was looking forward to a nice deserted weekend up there with SV and Crankworx going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers
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    You will not find anything new or be very welcomed at Vail. That's after paying a premium to ride up on the Gondola.
    What's this based on? I've heard (from some reliable Summit county peeps) that Vail opened a new trail last year. How welcomed you are or expensive it is, is subjective...
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    For those of you interested in possibly riding at Keystone this weekend, please call the them at (877) 753-9786 (just hit "0" to get to a main operator) to express your frustrations.

    The agent that I spoke with a few minutes said that Keystone was meant to only be closed during the week. While on the phone with me, she double-checked and noted that Keystone recently changed plans and decided to shut it during the weekends. She confirmed that Keystone did not provide notice of this until today.

    I explained that due to Crankworx, MSC at SV, etc., a lot of bikers were flying and driving in to ride Keystone. Consequently, Keystone is going to be dealing with a ton of extremely angry bikers. She agreed and said that she would pass the word on up. She did say that their closures are subject to change and insinuated that if enough people complained, then perhaps it would change. I certainly would not take that as gospel, but, to that end, please call the above number and voice your opinions.

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    climbmonkey, I can believe that certain resort employees may be empathetic to the rider, but I doubt that our desire to ride comes close to outweighing the resorts desire to keep this construction project on schedule. Helicopters don't come cheap, and most likely keystone needs to work around when that resource is available to them.
    yea, saturday afternoon at about 3 p.m., they may decide to open up for the next two hours.
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    Well it's worth a try if enough people complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edenger
    Well it's worth a try if enough people complain.
    I completely agree with you; I'm just skeptical of the results, being familiar with resort thinking and the almighty $$$$$$.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teleken
    What, people will have to ride uphill?!!

    A somewhat related note. I thought they were building the gondy back into the parking lot and I see it only moved across the bridge. Seems like a lot of work to move the load zone 40 yards.
    The main intent was to replace the existing Gondola as it is pretty beat-up from lots of usage over the years. Moving the base terminal and adding the mid station (Pointless!) was just a bonus I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    climbmonkey, Helicopters don't come cheap, and most likely keystone needs to work around when that resource is available to them.

    :
    $9000 per hour for a sky crane at last years fuel prices. A Chinook is a little less. If you want a K-max that has about 1/3 of the lift capacity it's about $3300.

    The big thing is the liability. They do occasionally drop stuff so there's no way that they will allow a bunch of bikers, no matter how much body armor and full face helmets that are wearing be anywhere near the work zone. if there was a crash, pieces of the rotor can travel many hundreds of yards and cut trees in half. If the trails where on the other side of the mountain they might allow some use, but even then I can imagine the risk management dept nixing any public use of the are while the work is going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zrm
    $9000 per hour for a sky crane at last years fuel prices. A Chinook is a little less. If you want a K-max that has about 1/3 of the lift capacity it's about $3300.

    The big thing is the liability. They do occasionally drop stuff so there's no way that they will allow a bunch of bikers, no matter how much body armor and full face helmets that are wearing be anywhere near the work zone. if there was a crash, pieces of the rotor can travel many hundreds of yards and cut trees in half. If the trails where on the other side of the mountain they might allow some use, but even then I can imagine the risk management dept nixing any public use of the are while the work is going on.

    I, for one, am willing to accept the risk. The odds of not getting whacked by a rotor blade seem pretty much in my favor...
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    Yo Renegade,

    I wholeheartedly agree with you that Keystone will likely not change its schedule, especially if they have big birds scheduled this weekend. However, if enough people cry and *****, then you never know.

    At the very least, it may encourage them to plan ahead on the communication front. According to the rep I spoke with, Keystone did not intend to spontaneously close on the weekends for construction. She explained that there was to be more advance warning prior to weekend closures to prevent this very situation.

    I am just baffled as to why Keystone would provide barely three days notice about a closure on one the busiest mountain bike and visitor weekends (Crankworx, MSC at Sol, Breck Bluegrass, Keystone Blues/Brews, etc.) of the year. That said, I can't fathom a resort like Keystone would have done this unless they were totally backed into a corner re construction scheduling, which could very well be the case here. Either way, it still blows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kchri
    I, for one, am willing to accept the risk. The odds of not getting whacked by a rotor blade seem pretty much in my favor...
    Quick, get the lawyers They'll stop you from getting on the lift.
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    Thanks all for the gondi info. FYI it's Bluegrass & Brews this weekend not Blues & Brews.

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    Well I spoke with Jen at Guest Services (970-496-4000) and can help clarify the situation (and dispel the helicopter rumors).

    Earlier this week a crane broke on the mountain and they lost 2 days. Apparently the new replacement crane is being delivered & set up today but in order for the contractors to make up for the 2 lost days they were forced to work this weekend. Unfortunately tramway regulations stipulate that cranes cannot operate within 30 feet of the lift.

    The contract between Keystone and the lift contractors stipulates that Keystone ops cannot impede on the progress of this project and they are left powerless in this situation. They absolutely wanted to be open this weekend and consider this a big & important weekend for them w/ the festival, but unfortunately had no course of action and are as disappointed as we all are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers
    I was under the impression that it was to move to the "village" for two reasons:

    1. Give the alps impression with a lift in a village.

    2. Stop hordes of people from congregating just after the bridge. I can't tell you how many times I have been smacked in the head with skis (like the three stooges) from tourons smoking like fiends with there skis over the shoulders.
    Hopefully this new loading area for the gondola will further deter people away from the far superior quad lift that is only yards away. I mean, what gaper wants to bear the frigid Colorado arctic to get up the mountain quicker.
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    When is the last time you've been to vail? You might be suprised. Scratch that, Vail sucks go somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers

    You will not find anything new or be very welcomed at Vail. That's after paying a premium to ride up on the Gondola.
    $11 with a winter pass. Hardly a premium.

    One new trail on the hill.... oldie but goodie stuff still rolling.... and others .

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLIDE
    $11 with a winter pass. Hardly a premium.

    One new trail on the hill.... oldie but goodie stuff still rolling.... and others .
    shh...

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    Keystone will always suck balls.....in winter.

    And on weekends like this......

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    Son of a bit**
    All winter I was looking forward to hitting keystone. I was gone all season and all I could think about was bombing Keystone. Man was I looking forward to this weekend. It was all planned out - shred keystone on saturday, hit up the brew and bluegrass fest later, camp saturday night, then hit it up again sunday. This blows.

    How's sol vista or winter park? Worth it?

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    Sol vista is hosting a competition - expect racers only on all three days. Winter park is hosting crank works so the one dh run will most likely be closed to civilians.
    What does that leave you with??? yuppyville, which is where i am headed.

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    Hey Renegade, Thanks for the update on Riding at WP during Crankworx. I'm going up there on Friday to watch the pros and do some riding. From the sounds of it I should be able to get my Lift pass and just won't be able to hit one run > Mt Goat run. Is that correct? Thanks for any/all info.

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    Just ride up Mt. Elbert

    The highest playground in CO.

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    What about Silverton? Really far I know, but is the place even open anymore?

    It would be cool if Eldora opened up a run or two with 5 dollar lifts all day.

    (a guy can dream)

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    Not to mention knowing everything. The internets is for knowing everything about everything. And telling everyone how much everything you know.
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    SolVista will be open to the public. The race trails will be closed to the public during the competitions only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers
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    You will not find anything new or be very welcomed at Vail. That's after paying a premium to ride up on the Gondola.

    Isn't Crankworx this weekend? Why not go to WP since they'll be all decked out anyway.

    Well I just got back from Vail and that's just not true. The pass was less than Keystone with or without a winter pass. I also felt just as welcome as any other area. Not sure what is new or old but PMT was one of my favorite trails I have been on all year. Mane Lane for flow and wood or hit old 9 line which is from years past for tech STEEP! fun. Try step down trail for a fun little drop. I know it's a bit more travel but I would recommend people give it a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBX5
    Well I just got back from Vail and that's just not true. The pass was less than Keystone with or without a winter pass. I also felt just as welcome as any other area. Not sure what is new or old but PMT was one of my favorite trails I have been on all year. Mane Lane for flow and wood or hit old 9 line which is from years past for tech STEEP! fun. Try step down trail for a fun little drop. I know it's a bit more travel but I would recommend people give it a try.
    Dammit, I was hoping people would keep hating Vail.

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