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    I've been to the other side.........and I kinda like it

    No, I haven't switched teams.

    My buddy loaned me his extra road bike for the summer and I'm kinda digging it. With free time at a premium and gas what it is, it just seems harder and harder to get my butt out to the trails. With the road bike I can head out at 6:30 on a weekend morning, get a 2 1/2 hour ride in and be back home without getting too much grief from the spouse and kids. I by no means enjoy road biking near as much as the mountain bike but the alternative is less riding and a bigger beer belly.

    I do feel a little insecure though because my mountain biking apparel doesn't look quite as nice as the roadies' that pass me. I'm also figuring out that carrying my M.U.L.E Camelbak with tools, tubes, water, extra clothes, wallet, cell phone, pump, patches and power bars is not a roadie thing to do either. I'm slowly learning their ways.....

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    other other side try moto

    twice as far, fast, and long with little effort. 1 year ago I was totally going toward more fitness ie road riding, tri training etc then my dh buddy got me out on a dirt bike. first time on a dirt bike and went out and bought one. The common denominator is being on the trail!
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    There's nothing mutually exclusive about road and dirt. I like riding on dirt better, but road riding is fun too.

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    Its all good man, riding on the road has its advantages and benefits. Back in the day when I raced XC a ton, I spent most of my week on the roadie. I still trained on the roadie when I swtiched to mostly gravity as well...gotta pedal that DH bike on the flat sections somehow

    Just be sure to keep it real and stay a mountain biker at heart

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    Thats cool. I own 4 mtb's and a road bike. The road bike gets used the most. Its just easier to get out on. Especially now that I am doing my coming out of hibernation rides. The past two years I have suffered from overuse injuries from coming out of hibernation too hard and too fast. The road bike is nice for doing short easy flat rides for getting my body used to the bike again.

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    Goddam roadies.

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    I commute to work at least twice a week on my single speed road bike. While I'd rather be on dirt, the commute keeps me in shape (especially in the winter), gets me out on a bike, and it saves on gas. Which is especially important now!
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    love the road

    I have to share work out time with my wife and spend time with my kid too. Riding right from the garage is a good option. Today was up to Jamestown, then back up over Lee Hill rd. With some socializing, coffee, etc it was 3.5 hr ride, 38 miles, 3460 feet of climbing, 2067 calories plus no car and no drive time to the trailhead. Riding on the road bike I frequently see folks driving their mtbs down to Hall. Round trip thats 40-60 minutes of time that could be spent riding. I love mtb'ing but road riding is more efficient and most of the time a better cardio workout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    Goddam roadies.
    Amen.

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    The other side.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Furrydogs
    I'm slowly learning their ways.....
    You will know when you have entered the dark side when you start shaving your legs.

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    It's funny you mention this. Today on my way to work I see all those Boulderites out on their road bikes in the crappy wind looking like their still loving it. I was thinking man that sure doesn't look very fun and I couldn't see myself doing that. If it were nicer out I might consider it but then I think about how it's probably almost as dangerous as mountain biking with all the vechicles on the road and reading that story were a cyclist was killed on their commute down in Denver. Either way, its good to stay in shape so keep at it and avoid shaved legs and spandex please.

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    Wurd...

    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    Goddam roadies.
    MY dog can lick YOUR dog!

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    I have a secret to share but don't tell anyone.

    My mountain bike actually works on the road too. Yep, it's true. I can even ride for 2-5 hours or more on the road with it. Plus, you don't look like a goof riding in baggies.

    That is how I have managed to get to Heil Ranch lately--without a car.

    But please, don't let this get out to too many folks.

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    I did about 4 miles of road today as part of my ride. Luckily they were dirt roads

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdsantacruzer
    You will know when you have entered the dark side when you start shaving your legs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdsantacruzer
    You will know when you have entered the dark side when you start shaving your legs.
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    I started biking by riding on the road. Was really into it and would ride almost everyday right after work in San Diego. That is until the second time I was hit by some moron.

    Some lady in a convertible Mercedes decided to take a right turn directly in front of me. I slammed into the passenger door and hit the deck. I get up and start the required yelling and screaming about her not yeilding the right of way, yada yada yada. She starts mouthing off about the cars have the right of way even if they cross over the bike lane to make a right turn and bikers don't belong on th road. The three guys I was riding with all stop, got off their bikes and began kicking all around the sides of her car with their carbon shoes until she regained her composure and quickly drove away. Her car looked like a dimpled golf ball when they were finished. Great times, ahhhhh...

    I survived obviously, and soon after that I decided to take up the more 'dangerous' sport of mountain biking. I do miss the joys of road biking like being told I need to change my diaper because I have a load in my pants; being targeted with sodas and trash as cars drive by; feeling the near miss of vehicles passing too closely (and not caring) and honking their horns at the last second; you know, fun road biking stuff...
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    To save gas and cut out as much road riding as possible, I moved closer to the trail head. That being said, I still enjoy road riding sometimes. Nice alternative when the trails are muddy. Also, 50+ mph descents are quieter on road tires than on knobbies.
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    Riding a bike is riding a bike, regardless of surface, geometry, clothing, or personal hygene.
    "Fact is only what you believe; fact and fiction work as a team." Jack Johnson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pabs
    Riding a bike is riding a bike, regardless of surface, geometry, clothing, or personal hygene.
    And there you have it folks.

    Well played

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    Quote Originally Posted by kchri
    <snip> The three guys I was riding with all stop, got off their bikes and began kicking all around the sides of her car with their carbon shoes until she regained her composure and quickly drove away. Her car looked like a dimpled golf ball when they were finished. Great times, ahhhhh...
    That's awesome! Someone should have jumped in the car and royally f**ked up the leather seats and dashboard.

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    nice pic sgltrak!

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    "Welcome to the Dark Side" is a what a long time road biking friend said to me after I picked up a road bike in late winter. I bought it to stay in shape for MTB while the trails were muddy and for those 60 degree winter days when the snow wasn't so great in the hills (I'm such a snow snob). I hadn't had a road bike in about 20 years. While it's not as fun as MTB the consistent cruising speed of 20+ MPH and 40+ MPH descents is a pretty incredible feeling.

    Other benefits are it's easier on the wallet with gas approaching $4 a gal. Also, being able to ride right from the house and be back a couple hours later is keeping me out of the dog house with the wife and new baby.

    Still a MTBer at heart though.
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    The dark side? My street machine is a 4" XC bike. Just add a little air to shocks and it is a road bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    I have a secret to share but don't tell anyone.

    My mountain bike actually works on the road too. Yep, it's true. I can even ride for 2-5 hours or more on the road with it. Plus, you don't look like a goof riding in baggies.

    That is how I have managed to get to Heil Ranch lately--without a car.

    But please, don't let this get out to too many folks.
    Shhhh. I ride my "mountain bike" on flat roads as well, even paved ones, even when I'm not necessarily going to a trail to "mountain bike." Shh.

    Next thing you know people will find out that:

    I ride my "track" bike on roads and MUTs.

    I ride my "racing" road bike on dirt-roads, smooth trails, paths, and non-racing situations.

    I've commuted on all my bikes, though none is a "commuter."

    I've ridden cruisers when running errands in a time-pressed context.

    I've ridden my finacee's Electra Amsterdam in Colorado.

    I even rode our tandem once to the shop . . . by myself.

    Don't tell anyone.
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    When riding your roadie, you are not allowed to wave/nod/smile at anyone on an MTB. It's a rule.

    Another good reason to stick with your MTB on the road - if you pass a roadie on your MTB, it's an accomplishment, and is thoroughly demoralizing to the roadie. Conversely, if a roadie passes you on your MTB, you can shrug it off, after all you're fighting more rolling resistance and probably a heavier bike too.

    But, seriously, two wheels are good, no matter what. Well done and keep it up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOser
    When riding your roadie, you are not allowed to wave/nod/smile at anyone on an MTB. It's a rule.
    This brings up a good point. When I am out on rides I wave/smile/nod to everyone. No matter what they are riding and regardless of their perceived skill level. If they are out enjoying being on two wheels as am I, why not share a friendly wave right? Wrong.

    Over the years I have been snubbed by everyone from roadies (usually the likely offender) to single speeders (even when I am on my SS). Sorry to rant, I just don't get some people not being nice out there. Some dude at Walker yesterday even gave the uber snub when he was carrying his bike and I said 'howdy' while stopped. Too cool for school I guess. WTFO?!

    / rant

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    Quote Originally Posted by bike21
    Sorry to rant, I just don't get some people not being nice out there.
    Welcome to reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HOser
    Another good reason to stick with your MTB on the road - if you pass a roadie on your MTB, it's an accomplishment, and is thoroughly demoralizing to the roadie.
    You obviously don't know the capacity of roadies to rationalize. There are a million excuses for getting passed and going slow, such as "slow days," base miles, periodization, and having been within 20 feet of someone who sneezed a week ago.

    But all joking aside, a roadie going fast is probably not a very fast roadie. The really fast guys only go fast on race day and train the rest of the time--which is why the look so miserable when they're going slow and getting passed by guys on mountain bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pabs
    Welcome to reality.
    Ha! You mean my utopian dream world of everyone being nice doesn't exist?

    People should still lighten up and get over themselves. Fo' shizzle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pabs
    You obviously don't know the capacity of roadies to rationalize. There are a million excuses for getting passed and going slow, such as "slow days," base miles, periodization, and having been within 20 feet of someone who sneezed a week ago.

    But all joking aside, a roadie going fast is probably not a very fast roadie. The really fast guys only go fast on race day and train the rest of the time--which is why the look so miserable when they're going slow and getting passed by guys on mountain bikes.
    Good points, especially about training vs. races - the good ones know who to maintain discipline even when appearance suffers. You obviously know your roadies, be careful or people will think you are one

    I agree with the points about giving at least a nod to other cyclists, I make sure to do it. However, sometimes I'll slide, for example when coming down Left Hand canyon from Ward when you pass a zillion people, it get's a little old nodding to everyone.

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    My brother in-law is a roadie, rode with him yesterday. 35 miles, cut through Cherry Creek Res. Have to say I did feel a little out of place on my trail rig, but, what the heck. It's got 2 wheels just like his

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    Quote Originally Posted by bike21
    This brings up a good point. When I am out on rides I wave/smile/nod to everyone. No matter what they are riding and regardless of their perceived skill level. If they are out enjoying being on two wheels as am I, why not share a friendly wave right? Wrong.

    Over the years I have been snubbed by everyone from roadies (usually the likely offender) to single speeders (even when I am on my SS). Sorry to rant, I just don't get some people not being nice out there. Some dude at Walker yesterday even gave the uber snub when he was carrying his bike and I said 'howdy' while stopped. Too cool for school I guess. WTFO?!

    / rant
    I was out on my motor-sickle yesterday and no mountain bikers waved at me. I did accidentally wave at a scooter, though (at least it was a big scooter)- the rider looked confused.

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    My wife and I hiked Walker yesterday with our leased pitbull/sharpei mix and i couldn't believe how many douche bags were out there. It made me realize why other user groups have a dislike for MTB'rs. dOOds skidding past us or not saying hi after I made a point to be nice to everybody. We moved off the trail every time someone came up on us. My wife was like 'some of these guys are a$$holes', lol.

    Not to say there wasn't a few courteous bikers. I'd say 60% were nice and said 'hi' or 'thanks' but the rest were either really tired or plain rude.

    It was interesting to notice things on the hike that I've totally missed MTBing. Cool cactus and views. Also some of the climbs seemed way steeper walking.


    Quote Originally Posted by bike21
    Some dude at Walker yesterday even gave the uber snub when he was carrying his bike and I said 'howdy' while stopped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pabs
    Shhhh. I ride my "mountain bike" on flat roads as well, even paved ones, even when I'm not necessarily going to a trail to "mountain bike." Shh.

    Next thing you know people will find out that:

    Yeah, I know it can be done. When I only had one bike, a mountain bike, that's what I would ride to work. But it drove me crazy knowing I could shave about 10 minutes off the commute if I was riding something with more than 30 psi in the tires and thinner than 2.1.

    A good analogy would be like the guy that used to cut our grass when I was a kid living in Costa Rica: He would cut our grass with a machete, which I guess was admirable, but probably not the most efficient method.

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    ISome lady in a convertible Mercedes ..
    Did you notice too that BMW and Mercedes drivers in Cali think they rule the world. Though I don't condone violence I would've love to see you guys kicking the crap out of her car.

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    Culture of road biking is all about being faster. Goal is to not get dropped in a group ride, drop as many of the others as possible instead and overtake slower riders in the most demoralizing way (smile, be relaxed, show non of the effort).

    Alternatively you shrub centuries and brag about it. The more elevation gain included, the better.

    I hate roadies, especially when they overtake me while riding my road bike or can ride more miles and passes in a day than I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pabs
    Riding a bike is riding a bike, regardless of surface, geometry, clothing, or personal hygene.
    Thank you. I really can't decide which bike is sexier, my Titus Racer X, or my Litespeed Blade triathlon/time trial bike, or my GT Zaskar HT, or my old Basso Tretubi 14 speed, or my Cannondale mtn tandem, or.....

    and, I wear lycra, baggies, and anything else that will keep me warm, cool, or dry depending...

    of course I shave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bike21
    This brings up a good point. When I am out on rides I wave/smile/nod to everyone. No matter what they are riding and regardless of their perceived skill level. If they are out enjoying being on two wheels as am I, why not share a friendly wave right? Wrong.

    Over the years I have been snubbed by everyone from roadies (usually the likely offender) to single speeders (even when I am on my SS). Sorry to rant, I just don't get some people not being nice out there. Some dude at Walker yesterday even gave the uber snub when he was carrying his bike and I said 'howdy' while stopped. Too cool for school I guess. WTFO?!

    / rant
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    Road is good. Sometimes riding is about being social and that can be easier on the road ride where everyone goes the same pace. For me a good group road ride can be more exciting than an easy/boring trail. However on the right trail mountain biking is still king.
    2 wheels

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOser
    sometimes I'll slide, for example when coming down Left Hand canyon from Ward when you pass a zillion people, it get's a little old nodding to everyone.
    If you lockout your fork, everyone will think you are nodding to them...

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