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    INTENSE 6.6 vs SC NOMAD

    ....these are the bikes on my short list. I've ridden them both but not on anything fun. The Nomad has a small cockpit, so I need to try the XL first. The Intense was a great ride, but I need feedback from peeps that ride the trails on the FR the MTNS, and Moab.

    Which one of these is burlier for DH?

    Which one is better for lugging around long trails?

    Any other bikes I should consider in this category? Preston?

    Basically, I need a bigger bike than my Stumpy120. I'm not into a full DH rig (yet), but want something a bit more aggresive (i.e. not worried about killing the shock at Keystoner), but can still be ridden XC. Something that can be can be ridden up and down Apex, just in case I cant find a ride up.
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    My Stumpjumper supplement was a Preston. I was very happy with mine. In fact, so much so that I sold my Stumpjumper because I never rode it anymore. The Preston became my weapon of choice for almost all trails... regardless of how painful some of the climbs became. It was worth it for the geometry. But hey, I wouldn't go off my opinion. Look at the geometry of each bike and then decide which fits your riding style.
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    I hear Specialized makes a Nomad killer...


    Not that this helps, but either bike will make you very happy!


    Nick only buys boutique bikes...
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    What is a "boutique bike" exactly?
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    I've been rather curious about the Knolly Endorphin myself, as an upgrade from the 120mm bike. Just need those winning Loto numbers...

    http://www.knollybikes.com/frames/endorphin/
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    I've never ridden the Intense, but I have put in two seasons on my Nomad so far and I love it for most trails. I'd say it's good for everything short of XC racing. It is definitely not the fastest to the top of the hill, but the geometry and suspension make it darn-near DH-bike-like on the downhills. I have a 36 Van up front and a DHX 5.0 coil in back, with CrossMax SX wheels and Specialized Enduro 2.4's tubeless, XO bits, BB7's (8-in. up front) and XTR cranks, a Heim 3-Guide and a Speedball. With a lighter wheelset and an air fork and shock, you can get it down around 30-31 lbs, which is pretty good for having that much travel. Anyway, I've ridden it all over Colorado, Moab, and even on the technical XC stuff near Chicago and in Wisconsin, land of the 3-foot log-overs, and I have had no complaints, other than your observation about the short effective TT. The slack geometry doesn't make it handle like a pig in tight stuff, for some reason. But I do notice that I steer it more with my body than with the bars.

    But I don't see how you could go wrong with the Intense either, it looks pretty sweet.
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    I test rode both last year, then bought an Uzzi

    Honestly though, they were both great bikes and the ride felt very similar. I would give a slight edge to the Intense as it felt a touch more laterally stiff and I think Intense spends a little more on the details such as CNC machined links vs forged on the SC. Plus the flame orange color for the 6.6 is just sweeeeet. To me the Nomad is starting to seem like the minivan of All Mountain bikes, they're everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thump
    To me the Nomad is starting to seem like the minivan of All Mountain bikes, they're everywhere.
    To me the All Mountain bikes are starting to seem like the minivan of bikes, they're everywhere. Why doesn't anyone ride trail bikes anymore?
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manmountain Dense
    and I have had no complaints, other than your observation about the short effective TT.
    How tall are you? I'm 6' 1.7" (-ish) with a big torso and sorta short legs, I found that odd sizing to be an issue (mine and the Nomads)....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    To me the All Mountain bikes are starting to seem like the minivan of bikes, they're everywhere. Why doesn't anyone ride trail bikes anymore?
    Yeah, and where did all the hardtails go????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    To me the All Mountain bikes are starting to seem like the minivan of bikes, they're everywhere. Why doesn't anyone ride trail bikes anymore?
    ...i thought an all-mountain bike was a trail bike? or is that free-ride bike? no wait, black diamond bike? sunnuva... now i'm totally confused.

    P.S.
    haven't you heard? rigid-29er-ti-SSs are the new minivans.

    P.P.S
    buy the intense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WKD-RDR
    Yeah, and where did all the hardtails go????
    I have one chilling in my garage right now. I drew what I wanted and the boys at Dobermann made it happen.

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    Psst... thanks again, DWF, for directing me to them.
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    Don't forget the 6.6SS... it has an Uzzi rear triangle, w/ replaceable drops, and you can run a 12mm rear axle. It will be stiffer than a regular 6.6 or Nomad. The slightly slacker HA will make it better for fr/dh type riding.

    http://www.intensecycles.com/web/news/66ss/66ss.html

    Also, especially if you're a bigger guy, the Uzzi can be built to be a mid-30 lb do-it-all bike.
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    I'm also looking for a bike like this perfect timing That 6.6ss looks like it would ride like the bottle rocket? That is the other bike that seems to fit a wide range of ridding from what I have seen on the forums.

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    I rode a 6.6 for two seasons. If you are going to have one bike to "do it all," i.e., ride FR trails and go to Keystone, its pretty hard to beat. Intenses are better made than Santa Cruz, imo, but you may like the geo on one over the other. You can build each bike as burly or as light as you want...

    I only sold it because I also have an Uzzi and a 6 inch travel bike for general trail use is overkill.

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    leaning towards Intense

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    I have one chilling in my garage right now. I drew what I wanted and the boys at Dobermann made it happen.
    Oh, there chillin in garages not bein used, gotcha!
    Dam that bike is clean

    Thanks for the info everyone
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    A friend of mine rented the one from Golden Bike shop. we rode both my Nomad and the Intense 6.6 side by side at Keystone (with some uphill riding as well). Both were great bikes, but the Nomad won out by a small margin all the way around for both of us. He ended up buying a Nomad that next week. I've also heard the 6.6 has machining issues, another friend I know that has one has been dissappointed in some of the issue's he's run into (bearing races getting sloppy, mis-alignment of rear derailuer, etc.

    my 2 cents, I know for sure the Nomad is a better DH bike. I also ride my Nomad on long arse rides all over this state and it does well at that too. Look up some of my video's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WKD-RDR
    How tall are you? I'm 6' 1.7" (-ish) with a big torso and sorta short legs, I found that odd sizing to be an issue (mine and the Nomads)....
    Five-foot-ten and a half, with a 30-inch inseam (measured for a bike fit, not pants) and freakishly long... Arms. One is nearly 2 inches longer than the other, but even the shorter one is about an inch longer than would be proportional, or so I'm told.

    Mine is a large with a 110 stem, and it's a tad tall for me, but a medium would have been too short in the TT. As stated in the Cinco thread, I get neck and shoulder pain on longer rides because of the lack of extension. A 130 or 135 stem would solve that, but I tried a 125 and it made the thing steer like a bus and didn't really fix the fit issue, so I sucked it up and kept the shorter stem.

    Which is why I'm currently in the market for a more XC-ish trail bike that fits me better, so I can convert the Nomad to a more DH/FR-oriented set-up and use it for Keystone and such.
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    In that general category you might consider the Giant Reign X, Iron Horse 7 point and Specialized SX trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rontele
    ... and a 6 inch travel bike for general trail use is overkill.

    Gosh, all these years wasted on a 6x6 general purpose bike. I didn't even know I was overkilling it, no wonder this whole biking thing has been so unsatisfying.
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    Sx

    I ride a SX Trail with a 36 talas, DHX coil, I9 wheels and speedball. Could be lighter but 6'3" 210 I'm not fast and break things. Bombproof! I worry about myself not the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    What is a "boutique bike" exactly?
    Pretty much any bike that makes even an experienced mtbr stop and ask "who the hell makes that?". From what I hear, it could also be described as any bike in your garage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluchris
    I've been rather curious about the Knolly Endorphin myself, as an upgrade from the 120mm bike. Just need those winning Loto numbers...

    http://www.knollybikes.com/frames/endorphin/
    Absolutely amazing bike!! Only 3 rides on mine, but so far I'm totally blown away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WKD-RDR
    ....these are the bikes on my short list. I've ridden them both but not on anything fun. The Nomad has a small cockpit, so I need to try the XL first. The Intense was a great ride, but I need feedback from peeps that ride the trails on the FR the MTNS, and Moab.

    Which one of these is burlier for DH?

    Which one is better for lugging around long trails?

    Any other bikes I should consider in this category? Preston?
    I don't think you can go wrong with any of the 3. I had a 6.6 for about a year and half. I rode absolutely everything with it except chairlift assisted dh. It was a fantastic bike. I used it primarily for backcountry missions and all day epics. The 6.6 made quite a few missions to Fruita, Moab, and the WY and MT rockies. It's definitely 'up there' among my favorites - probably my favorite Moab bike, though.

    I have a large if you'd like to take it out to Hall Ranch. Let me know if you'd like to grab it. I'll also have a new pimpin' large british racing green built up by Sunday if you want to check it out. Cold beer in the fridge, too

    Nickle, that Dobermann is a beautiful bike. You're super stoked if it rides half as good as it looks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thump
    Pretty much any bike that makes even an experienced mtbr stop and ask "who the hell makes that?". From what I hear, it could also be described as any bike in your garage.
    Alright, I gotcha. I don't know if I'd call my bikes "botique," but I do have some lesser know manufacturers that make a great product under public the radar. Most of my longboard collection is what can be defined as "botique."
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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