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    "I'm interested. Do you still have it?"

    I'm selling a frame on Craigslist. I get the email above. It's from a real-sounding name, they left a real looking phone number like I insist on, the guy has a real sounding gmail address.
    I'm still hesitant but reply "Yes". Here's his reply:

    "Hello,
    I am OK with the price. I'll be using this opportunity to let you
    understand that you'll be receiving the payment in mode of cashier
    check or money order from my client and the amount you'll be receiving
    will be more than the item fees. Payment will be mailed like I told
    you before. I'm purchasing on behalf of my client and the excess
    payment is already signed which is my own commission with the money
    I'll need to pay for our shipping company.


    In addition, the payment will be sent as soon as you agree with me to
    deduct just the amount for the item and send the balance through any
    western union office well known to you, payment shall be sent via
    courier service. There won't be any problem about the shipment of the
    item because I'll be handling that aspect with my shipping company, so
    I want you to get back to me asap now with your full mailing
    information such as your full name, address and phone#.


    NOTE:I want you to take the item off advertisement because I don't
    want any other buyer to bid on it again. I will be adding extra $30 to
    your payment for removing it on listing and make sure you inform me
    immediately you remove it on listing, OK?"

    Just wondering, has there been any studies done that indicate where this type of reply comes from? Spammers, I know, but in the US of A? Serbia? Ukraine? Lord knows I've had too many replies like this in the past but it's been awhile (usually I just don't reply to suspicious emails). It's like a joke Craigslist reply but almost an industry unto itself.
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    Poor grammar for someone in the US. ".. I'll be using this opportunity to let you understand.." I don't know many Americans that talk like this.

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    Les grimpées, je m'en fou!

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    SCAM!

    "I'll be using this opportunity to let you understand...." Who talks like that?

    And any time someone says they're going to send you more money and you need to send them change - no matter how perfect their grammar may be, it's a SCAM!

    Don't let your desire to sell whatever it is overcome your natural smarts and gut instincts. Ever.
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    I was selling an item on craigs once and received a very similar email.

    I thought what the hell, I'll play along just out of curiosity.
    I received a Bank Of America cashiers check that had obviously been printed on an ink jet printer. Wasn't even anything printed on the back.
    I called BOA, gave the check number and it wasn't even close to what they use.
    But they did wan't a copy of the check for their fraud dept.

    When the individual emailed me wanting the difference back I told him I had decided to keep it for myself and not send the item.
    He got pissed and threatened legal action, so I gave him the number to the sheriff's office and that was the last I ever heard from him.
    I then sent Yahoo a message that someone was using their e-mail for scams and Yahoo closed the account.
    The return address was a PO box in Canada.

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    I posted a bike for sale on the Western Slope Craigslist and got this from one "Adaline Ginard":

    I am very interested in getting this from you. Is it still available?
    I replied yes, and got this several hours later:

    Ok, thanks for replying. Turns out i can't really get it now anyway… my cousin just put a BIG dent in my car and now i need to figure out how much money it'll cost me to do the repair. ugh!

    I thank god he's ok but of course it just had to happen NOW, when i'm finally making really good money from this work at home program ive been using. You know, if you want, theyve just opened up 3 more positions in our area. Basically you earn money by posting links on the internet, its very easy and I just do it while watching tv.

    Heres the link if you wanna check it out:

    Consumers Authority

    I've earned about $500 each week since I began.. not enough to quit my job yet but i finally have some spare money in my checking account. Well, probably not after i see the mechanic bill lol. My sister is going to sign up later and these positions usually go fast, so Id really appreciate it if you didnt share the link with anyone else. Thanks!


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    Don't worry, I won't share the link with anyone else.

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    It may be many groups that send out this email in replies, but it's the consistent inanity of this stock reply that is so mind boggling. If they're different groups of scammers, what do they do, go to the "scammers are us" website and download this stock reply?

    Don't worry, I never bite on this stuff but marvel that it just keeps landing in my inbox.

    BTW, the frame is still for sale.
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    Sounds legit, I'd jump on that sweet deal.







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    Here is a recent one I had from the Denver Craigslist:

    Hello,
    I will give you 100 dollars cash for your tv.

    Deal. When can you pick it up?

    Let me work on that when do you need it gone by? will you take any
    less than 100?

    Needless to say he didn't buy the TV....

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    I'm curious to who actually falls for these scams.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowandlow View Post
    I was selling an item on craigs once and received a very similar email.

    I thought what the hell, I'll play along just out of curiosity.
    I received a Bank Of America cashiers check that had obviously been printed on an ink jet printer. Wasn't even anything printed on the back.
    I called BOA, gave the check number and it wasn't even close to what they use.
    But they did wan't a copy of the check for their fraud dept.

    When the individual emailed me wanting the difference back I told him I had decided to keep it for myself and not send the item.
    He got pissed and threatened legal action, so I gave him the number to the sheriff's office and that was the last I ever heard from him.
    I then sent Yahoo a message that someone was using their e-mail for scams and Yahoo closed the account.
    The return address was a PO box in Canada.
    That's pretty hilarious. So I guess he was counting on you to be lazy and not cash the check? Seems like this would have an extremely low probability of actually working.

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    Actually, I usually don't respond to anyone who says "I'm interested" because they've never been a buyer. It's like they just want to talk or will inevitably try to talk me down in price.
    I did respond this time and it was same as it ever was.
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    Spam actually works

    Supposedly (this is according to New Scientist) standard spam emails (ie, unsolicited ads for products or services, a bit different than the scam here) are hilariously ineffective at reaching their targets (2008 numbers):

    An analysis of pharmaceutical spam emails sent out over one month in 2008 by just 1.5 per cent of one botnet called “Storm” reveals that few people click on the links – but that spam still makes money

    -35 MILLION SPAM EMAILS SENT
    -8.2 million made it to mail servers. The rest were sent to non-existent addresses or bounced back to the sender
    -10,500 recipients clicked the link in the mail
    -28 bought products
    – a conversion rate of 0.000008%

    Extrapolated over the whole network, spam generated an estimated $3.5 million
    in pharmaceutical sales alone in 2008.
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    I've stopped using craigslist for selling items. It's more of a hassle than it's worth.

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    Red flags for scams:

    * Western Union
    * Paying more than what you're asking
    * Any sort of change or cash back
    * Shipping overseas to a family member or fiance
    * Buying for a "client"
    * Using a "courier service"
    * Buyer claims that they are or are representing royalty
    * etc. etc.

    Best thing to do if you're going to use Craig's List is list it as "Local Only - Face to Face - Cash Only" and ignore everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topmounter View Post
    Red flags for scams:

    * Western Union
    * Paying more than what you're asking
    * Any sort of change or cash back
    * Shipping overseas to a family member or fiance
    * Buying for a "client"
    * Using a "courier service"
    * Buyer claims that they are or are representing royalty
    * etc. etc.

    Best thing to do if you're going to use Craig's List is list it as "Local Only - Face to Face - Cash Only" and ignore everything else.
    X2, although, it can lead to some wasted trips to a neutral meeting place, still the safest way to go.
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    I always say "Local pickup only. Cash only." If I think I have a buyer, I'll meet them somewhere 1/2 way (seems like the only people who see my ads live down near Centennial) but only after saying I prefer meeting one block from my place. And that's only if we've agreed on my firm price and they actually sound like a normal person. Usually photography items, the buyers are serious. Tools and bike parts not so much.

    One guy who was "interested" in a nail gun and gun nails wanted me to meet him at some gun shop way the heck down who knows where, where he'd maybe offer me 1/2. Like I was gonna jump at that offer
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    Wow, This is so 8 years ago.

    Anyone who hasn't learned this one by now deserves it.

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