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    How many fat bike riders?

    Really want to extend my riding season… Thinking about selling a kidney and picking up a moonlander for snow riding. How do they do in the front range?
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    I have a buddy who rides one almost exclusively and loves it.

    Personally, I'm going for a Yampa. The ones I've demo'd with my buddy are a good 15 pounds lighter with nearly identical setups.

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    I agree! Not sure if I can clear it with the wife though. Already bought two new bikes this year....
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    I also have a good friend with a Moon Lander that he rides a lot and loves it. He just bought a carbon Bear Grease as an alternative and will keep the Moon Lander more for camping.

    I have a Al Fatback, and I love it. As you know, fat bikes are not just for snow. I have thought about selling my HT and FS 29ers and just keeping the fatback. I find myself turning to it for most of my trail riding especially in the fall. I have also considered a carbon or Ti replacement, but I haven't cleared the mental hurdle of the delta between selling what I have and buying new, and at 31# for a 20" frame and a nice component mix I am not sure how much an improvement I will see.

    Bottom line, you want one, and your wife will quickly determine that divorce or murder are too expensive.....

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    Fat bikes do great in front range, and of course it is going to extend your riding season. Just ask yourself 1st if you are willing to ride by yourself or have some friends with fat bikes. Don't let people on here convince you that you can ride a fat bike as fast as your other bike, so if you ride with 4 guys and are all the same pace once your on the fat bike you will not keep up. It is obviously getting more popular so sure we will run into more people with them soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    I have a buddy who rides one almost exclusively and loves it.

    Personally, I'm going for a Yampa. The ones I've demo'd with my buddy are a good 15 pounds lighter with nearly identical setups.
    Lighter, yes, but 15 lbs lighter, really? Wouldn't you have to build with their carbon rims ($$$$) or <100mm rims to lop off anywhere near that much weight? I still want one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veloborealis View Post
    Lighter, yes, but 15 lbs lighter, really? Wouldn't you have to build with their carbon rims ($$$$) or <100mm rims to lop off anywhere near that much weight? I still want one.
    The super, ultra, uber, lightweight_everything build of the Yampa is around 21 lbs, so this is technically correct when comparing to the bone stock Moonlander at 37 lbs.

    Meanwhile you can buy a Moonlander, a Pugsley, and winter riding gear .. and still have almost $1,000 in your pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Streetdoctor View Post
    Really want to extend my riding season… Thinking about selling a kidney and picking up a moonlander for snow riding. How do they do in the front range?
    Before you sell a kidney - head over to Golden bike Shop and "Ren-Ta-Fatty" for this weekend!

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    I decided to build a Pugs rather than the stock build. Mine came in at 32 lbs. In the end, it probably would have been more economical to buy a stock build that is only 2 lbs heavier. I know there is all this push to save weight with fatbikes. Maybe light fatbikes are better...I don't know, I have plenty of fun on mine just the way it is. There are so many fatbike shops now. Check out Golden Bike Shop, Alpha, and Pedal of Littleton. They will get you a new ride and maybe you will only need to donate plasma instead of waking up in a bathtub full of ice in Mexico with no Kidney.

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    The fat bike only a mother could love

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    I love the REEB! They are a local company, and the frames are welded in downtown Denver. It's about as Front Range as it gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkaber View Post
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    That thing looks awesome. What rotors are those?
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    ^ Look like 'Alligator Windcutters'
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    Yes, they are cheapy Alligator Ti-Nitride coated rotors....I think they were like $12 each! I think they work better than Avid and even seem alot straighter too.

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    ^ Wow, only twenty bucks at price point. [Edit: looks like I'm too slow]

    These guys look pretty interesting for a fat bike if you're on ice a lot and don't mind the weight.

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    I've got a big meaty set of studded tires for my moto to try out this winter (not grip studs). Just waiting on a wheel set to mount them. I'd hate to think what would happen to any body part that came in contact with them. - instant mince, just gotta pick out the bone chips.
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    I got a cheap motobacane Fatbike via Bikes Direct and love it. Too much fun, and only $900.

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    OH man..... I am a "wishful" fat bike person. I will get one one day, for now I pretend with what I have and it still puts a smile on my face!

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    A 20" (Large) pugsley just hit CL this AM for cheap. I'd grab it if I did not just get a Mukluk.

    Wednesday night Littleton area ride - $1 burger night at Gunther Toodies, and they make a heck of a good veggie burger - maybe we should try to get a Weds early eve ride going??

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    Are snowbikes any good for jumping and technical riding? I'd imagine it would be pretty easy to build little booters out of snow. Or are they more for getting some quality exercise with the wheels on the ground?
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    They actually work very well as an all around trail bike. Lots of good info on the web about them. Mine has been a gas on the dry trails. They really excel in technical riding, both up and down.

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    I'm a big fan of big tires on the front range trails in dry conditions (used to run a 2.8 front @ 1500g and 2.4 rear @ 1000g ). But is there enough grip (condition dependent I know) on snow for jumps, stoppies and technical climbs etc? The FAT tires look to be more about floating on the snow than actual traction.
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    I am a fat, bike rider. I need to shed 10 or so pounds.

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    I did a video shoot with the Colorado Springs based Fat Bike company called Boreals Fat Bikes. They show that these rigs are not just for the snow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by richccc View Post
    Fat bikes do great in front range, and of course it is going to extend your riding season. Just ask yourself 1st if you are willing to ride by yourself or have some friends with fat bikes. Don't let people on here convince you that you can ride a fat bike as fast as your other bike, so if you ride with 4 guys and are all the same pace once your on the fat bike you will not keep up. It is obviously getting more popular so sure we will run into more people with them soon.
    Question is...Have you ridden one to qualify this judgement? I've been GPS tracking my rides for the past two years and some of my fastest climbing times(Hello Kitty, Hayden) have been on my 31lb Salsa Mukluk. Same on some downhills. My fastest time down Box o Rox has been on my Mukluk and that's going against myself on my Niner Jet9 and Kona Satori.

    I will say when it gets really fast, rough in chunky. I'm faster on my Jet or Satori. Perfect example is two regular mtb folks stopping and talking to me about my fatty at Lair the Bear. I smoked them up the climb...met a buddy up top and hung out while they came riding along and then smoked em down. I'm not trying to be a zealot for the Fatty, though I do love mine but curious if "your in the know" of how a fat bike rides or are you just assuming?

    For the OP: I think what I said above points to how I feel about the fatty. The biggest advantage is the additional traction especially on the climbs. Depending on tire selection, gearing selection and rider fitness there is no reason that you can't ride a fat bike on most trails in the Front Range with your buddies on regular bikes. I ride mine regularly on the TITS night rides that are regularly posted here and I'm right where I usually am in the pack on my regular mtb.

    Here's a ride full of PR's done on the Fat Bike..

    <iframe height='405' width='590' frameborder='0' allowtransparency='true' scrolling='no' src='http://app.strava.com/activities/45243084/embed/f6e133c94cc39f56108889ace6bfbb14fad85bfe'></iframe>

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountaingoatepics View Post
    Question is...Have you ridden one to qualify this judgement? I've been GPS tracking my rides for the past two years and some of my fastest climbing times(Hello Kitty, Hayden) have been on my 31lb Salsa Mukluk. Same on some downhills. My fastest time down Box o Rox has been on my Mukluk and that's going against myself on my Niner Jet9 and Kona Satori.
    I will say when it gets really fast, rough in chunky. I'm faster on my Jet or Satori. Perfect example is two regular mtb folks stopping and talking to me about my fatty at Lair the Bear. I smoked them up the climb...met a buddy up top and hung out while they came riding along and then smoked em down. I'm not trying to be a zealot for the Fatty, though I do love mine but curious if "your in the know" of how a fat bike rides or are you just assuming?

    For the OP: I think what I said above points to how I feel about the fatty. The biggest advantage is the additional traction especially on the climbs. Depending on tire selection, gearing selection and rider fitness there is no reason that you can't ride a fat bike on most trails in the Front Range with your buddies on regular bikes. I ride mine regularly on the TITS night rides that are regularly posted here and I'm right where I usually am in the pack on my regular mtb.

    Here's a ride full of PR's done on the Fat Bike..

    <iframe height='405' width='590' frameborder='0' allowtransparency='true' scrolling='no' src='http://app.strava.com/activities/45243084/embed/f6e133c94cc39f56108889ace6bfbb14fad85bfe'></iframe>
    Just going by how the group i ride with rides, on some of the local stuff i would agree, but when we head to the resorts i disagree at least from what i have seen. I have ridden breck 2 times this year with guys that hang with me and on the climbs and longer distance rides the fat bike really slowed them up. We are not pros but good riders and seems like the longer rides on the fatbikes also wear you out more. I have never ridden a fatbike for over 20 miles so dont know from myself but as soon as spec releases the fatboy i will know.(still dreaming might be a long wait)haha.

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    OP: Just a little awesomeness of fatty's

    <iframe src="//player.vimeo.com/video/56568845" width="500" height="281" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe>

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    and Last year at Kenosha Pass

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    and me in the middle of a rock booter launch

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    I don't need this thread. I just got two new bikes (well one is a like-new new-to-me) and here I am getting the hankering for a fat bike. While I'm in budget lockdown for the holidays I'm hoping I can add one to the harem before spring. Hopefully just in time to play on the late season snow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountaingoatepics View Post
    Q I've been GPS tracking my rides for the past two years and some of my fastest climbing times(Hello Kitty, Hayden) have been on my 31lb Salsa Mukluk. Same on some downhills. My fastest time down Box o Rox has been on my Mukluk and that's going against myself on my Niner Jet9 and Kona Satori.
    You're not human so you're disqualified. When you start riding 1/4 of what you do a week we can re-qualify this statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquidmantis View Post
    I don't need this thread.
    But you DO need a fat bike!

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    my experiences are similar. By far my fastest trip on the downhill on the CO trail heading west from the 550 parking lot (you know the downhill before the green mountain turnoff) has been on my fatty.

    I equate the mentality to when I did not yet have a SS. I thought those guys were egomaniacs, trying to prove some sort of point, making up for penile deficiencies, etc. Then I got one. The SS just works way better than you think it would as an outside observer, yet when you get one, it all makes sense.

    Same with the fatty. It just flat works as a trailbike, period. Not picky about lines going up or down, no drama on loose ground with step-ups, nice cushy ride, traction galore in the corners and braking. It does what a trailbike is supposed to do and in many ways better. I'm becoming a fan of slacker head angles and in fact plan to extend the fork on my hard tail 29er to 120mm just to slack it out a bit, along with putting the dropper back on it.

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    "my experiences are similar. By far my fastest trip on the downhill on the CO trail heading west from the 550 parking lot (you know the downhill before the green mountain turnoff) has been on my fatty."

    I for one would like clarification on how fast you are before I would give much stock to statements saying a fat is just as fast or faster that a standard bike. (Sorry if that's too harsh, don't know how else to say it)

    I'm pretty fast on my xc racer, a Moots Gristle-YBB, but cannot see how my Fatbike could ever go as fast or faster than my YBB. It lacks the manauneverability and finess of the YBB, and front suspension and tubeless tires really do work better for me than just soft fat tires.

    I love my Fatbike for snowy trails, and winter riding, but would never think to race it, or compair its speed performance to my YBB. But that's the great thing about bikes, you always need another to round out the garage so you can have just the right ride for whatever conditions the trails present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbsbiker View Post

    I for one would like clarification on how fast you are before I would give much stock to statements saying a fat is just as fast or faster that a standard bike. (Sorry if that's too harsh, don't know how else to say it)
    I'm sure you can smoke me on a garage sale 4" wheeled tricycle.

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    My race gene has gone dormant. All about fun these days. The fat bike is fun. Period. And easy to ride. Period. "Fast" is up to one's own definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve71 View Post
    Are snowbikes any good for jumping and technical riding? I'd imagine it would be pretty easy to build little booters out of snow. Or are they more for getting some quality exercise with the wheels on the ground?
    No snow required:



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    Thanks rogbie - that guy on the fat bike is clearly a few tenths slower than the guys on the free ride/DH bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trialsguy315 View Post
    My race gene has gone dormant. All about fun these days. The fat bike is fun. Period. And easy to ride. Period. "Fast" is up to one's own definition.
    You are right, "fast" can be many things. I would say my Fatbike is comparable to my xc bike up to 12-15mph, above 15mph, the suspension and ease of handling of my YBB shines. So depending on what your "fast" is, a fat may be the perfect ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountaingoatepics View Post
    STRAVAAAAA!
    They're still ugly, though

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    My gf is needing a new bike with gears!! And we so happen to be the same size!! I think she needs a Fat Bike!! ;-) ;-)
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    New Salsa BG in the howse...Not front range, but back range? Get one! New Mukluk is pretty nice and reasonable in price. If I wasn't such a carbon whore, I would have picked a new Mukluk 3.

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    Just shot an email over. For that asking price I think I can make it happen. I'm also interested in weekday rides... I'd be game tomorrow night but I'm off work and I'll be hitting Buff Creek in the morning.

    Quote Originally Posted by trialsguy315 View Post
    A 20" (Large) pugsley just hit CL this AM for cheap. I'd grab it if I did not just get a Mukluk.

    Wednesday night Littleton area ride - $1 burger night at Gunther Toodies, and they make a heck of a good veggie burger - maybe we should try to get a Weds early eve ride going??
    Front Range, Colorado

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogbie View Post
    No snow required:



    Fat bike X games here it comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBR me! View Post
    My gf is needing a new bike with gears!! And we so happen to be the same size!! I think she needs a Fat Bike!! ;-) ;-)
    REEB!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountaingoatepics View Post
    and Last year at Kenosha Pass

    Guacamole

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    and me in the middle of a rock booter launch

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/goatshell/8421420029/" title="Flying Fat Bike by Goat in a Turtle Shell, on Flickr"><img ,src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8463/8421420029_a28683b642_c.jpg" width="600" height="800" alt="Flying Fat Bike"></a>
    Did I take that wheelie pic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBR me! View Post
    My gf is needing a new bike with gears!! And we so happen to be the same size!! I think she needs a Fat Bike!! ;-) ;-)

    HAHA!! I think this is a fantastic idea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountaingoatepics View Post
    OP: Just a little awesomeness of fatty's

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    Sweet vid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBR me! View Post
    Did I take that wheelie pic?
    Na, Guacamole got it when we rode Kenosha back in February
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    Found a "Snow" bike for you guys
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