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    a Home in Moab?!?

    Friends,

    I'm new to this forum (CK sent me here); I Hope I am not posting an innapropriate message .... still at that risk.....

    I moved to Moab from Marin 25 years ago! I've run my course and times have changed ... I'm ready to go!

    I have a beautiful home for sale; a rare artesian spring (25 gpm), the largest trees, a historic adobe building (1886). a six bed/five bath home currently running a B&B, swimming pool, three building lots, all on about four acres. $850,000!

    Also, the "back ten" are availible, approved for five homes. $380,000

    It is well known around these parts as the Heart of the Desert.

    anyone interested? <www.pioneerspring.com>

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    I'll put that on my holiday wish list...


    yeah thats what I'll do

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    If I can get a 3300 year loan at zero percent, I'm in!
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    Geez!

    Rough crowd. Give the guy a break, it's hard to sell property anywhere right now. Don't think I didn't do something similar to sell my Joisey home.

    Anyway...

    Sounds like a nice place. I just don't think Moab is a big enough draw year round to be have a large enough B&B income to support the mortgage. The fact that you left out your occupancy rate, sort of leads me to believe that is true.

    Anyway, good luck on the sale.

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    And the address issss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers
    Rough crowd. Give the guy a break, it's hard to sell property anywhere right now.
    I don't give a rat's a$$. Keep it out of the forum.

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    [QUOTE=SkaredShtles]I don't give a rat's a$$. Keep it out of the forum. [/QUOT/E]

    /Rant On/

    Oh please. Yeah, I know how you all respond to spam here all too well. No wonder it's the same ten people posting over and over again. When one of the 10 have something to "sell" it's never a problem, though.

    Let it be and just move on. It was semi on-topic anyway since it was in Moab.

    /Rant Off/

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    [QUOTE=schnauzers]
    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    I don't give a rat's a$$. Keep it out of the forum. [/QUOT/E]

    /Rant On/

    Oh please. Yeah, I know how you all respond to spam here all too well. No wonder it's the same ten people posting over and over again. When one of the 10 have something to "sell" it's never a problem, though.

    Let it be and just move on. It was semi on-topic anyway since it was in Moab.

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    I agree. Like it's THAT hard to move onto the next thread about Apex, and how dowhillers suck, and that cross country riders are wusses, or how 29'ers suck, and that anyone who rides a 29'er is a snob, or is tall...blaa blaa blaa...Personally, it's amazing to think of anything in Moab selling for $850k. I'm grateful for the post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers
    Rough crowd. Give the guy a break, it's hard to sell property anywhere right now. Don't think I didn't do something similar to sell my Joisey home.

    Anyway...
    hardly think the responses were that rough. Thought you would have thicker skin coming from jersey.

    anyway this thread is useless w/o pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers
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    Let it be and just move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nOOby
    hardly think the responses were that rough. Thought you would have thicker skin coming from jersey.
    South Jersey - The Appalachia of NJ.

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    anyway this thread is useless w/o pics.
    Now that is true.

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    loves me some google
    http://www.moabutah.com/RealEstate/R...?ptid=2&pid=10

    nice, it's like a desert oasis
    *starts saving pennies
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    If I had that kind of money to spend I think I could actually afford to buy a fixer house in Boulder

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    or three in ned

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    Quote Originally Posted by weimie
    If I had that kind of money to spend I think I could actually afford to buy a fixer house in Boulder
    Buying a house in Boulder isn't as bad as everyone thinks it is, provided, you can accommodate some roommates. I got a place near Lucky's and live with two guys who pay roughly half the mortgage which leaves me with a chunk slightly higher than getting a fancy one bedroom near downtown.

    That being said, one of my old roommates just bought a place in Denver, a two bedroom condo, somewhere near Fillmore, which may not be the best neighborhood, and his mortgage is like $680 with zero down. Man, I wish Boulder was this cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK_
    That being said, one of my old roommates just bought a place in Denver, a two bedroom condo, somewhere near Fillmore, which may not be the best neighborhood, and his mortgage is like $680 with zero down. Man, I wish Boulder was this cheap.
    Capitol Hill is actually a pretty cool neighborhood. While I wouldn't recommend leaving your high-end rigs locked up outside, I generally felt safe there. It's a nice walkable neighborhood with real character. My only gripe with Capitol Hill is my disdain for strapping my mtb to the car to ride it. I suppose you could say the same for Boulder...

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    Quote Originally Posted by athalliah
    My only gripe with Capitol Hill is my disdain for strapping my mtb to the car to ride it. I suppose you could say the same for Boulder...
    For the most part, but there are lots of trails you can pedal to, and the fitter you are the more options you have. (not to mention the recent legalization of "social trails" on recently sold Benjamin property). And it's really hard to beat the option of taking the bus to Ned and riding back home. Not to mention the proximity of peak-to-peak goodness.

    On the flip side, from Denver it is closer to Evergreen, Buff Creak, Deer Creek, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK_
    Buying a house in Boulder isn't as bad as everyone thinks it is, provided, you can accommodate some roommates. I got a place near Lucky's and live with two guys who pay roughly half the mortgage which leaves me with a chunk slightly higher than getting a fancy one bedroom near downtown.

    That being said, one of my old roommates just bought a place in Denver, a two bedroom condo, somewhere near Fillmore, which may not be the best neighborhood, and his mortgage is like $680 with zero down. Man, I wish Boulder was this cheap.

    _MK
    I've tried the roommate thing....not my cup 'o tea to say the least. And I don't think I could live in a condo/townhouse...I hate other people's noise and I'm always fearing some dumba$$ falling asleep with a cigarette or something like that and burning the whole place down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weimie
    I've tried the roommate thing....not my cup 'o tea to say the least. And I don't think I could live in a condo/townhouse...I hate other people's noise and I'm always fearing some dumba$$ falling asleep with a cigarette or something like that and burning the whole place down.
    Yep, having people live in your house is a sort of therapy of letting go. But in my case it has worked out well, overall. The important thing is that it affords me to ability to live in a house (a retirement fund of sorts), have a back yard and a short walk to Wonderland Lake.

    And per the negligence comment, all I can say to that is this is why I have insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK_
    For the most part, but there are lots of trails you can pedal to, and the fitter you are the more options you have. (not to mention the recent legalization of "social trails" on recently sold Benjamin property).
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    MK_, Do these trails hook up to betasso? thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by nOOby
    MK_, Do these trails hook up to betasso? thanks
    http://www.co.boulder.co.us/openspac...terim_Plan.pdf

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    I was poking fun at ya MK...and those who say "you can't ride from the door" in Boulder in the "where should I live?" threads. Those who find the idea of riding a few miles on pavement to ride a trail so detestable that they will drive their bike amuse me.

    disclaimer: I understand that sometimes time is limited or *insert your reason here* so don't take this to heart if you do drive your bike to a TH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by athalliah
    Those who find the idea of riding a few miles on pavement to ride a trail so detestable that they will drive their bike amuse me.
    Pssshhh... whatever.

    Quote Originally Posted by athalliah
    disclaimer: I understand that sometimes time is limited or *insert your reason here* so don't take this to heart if you do drive your bike to a TH.
    Oh.


    A trail that’s too difficult wouldn’t exist because it’d never be used. But, trails can exist that’re too difficult for you.

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    I was looking at condos in Moab for a rental pool, place to stay, investment a few years ago and thought $160 k was too much, then $180k, then $200k, ...and recently $240k for basically the same ones. Ridiculous.

    Now I don't even see those places on the market.

    ......I was wishing they will get back to below $200k with this housing decline.

    I have noticed rental rates have sharply increased in the past year there though. New energy boom perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by athalliah
    I was poking fun at ya MK...and those who say "you can't ride from the door" in Boulder in the "where should I live?" threads. Those who find the idea of riding a few miles on pavement to ride a trail so detestable that they will drive their bike amuse me.

    disclaimer: I understand that sometimes time is limited or *insert your reason here* so don't take this to heart if you do drive your bike to a TH.
    From my house I ride Betasso, Heil and Marshall mesa typically talking the "lame" trails of east boulder, foothills, reservoir, south boulder etc. Oh wait, those trails aren't so lame when the ride ends 40 miles later.

    Then there is taking the N to Ned where you can access West Mag, Dots, Caribou, Sourdough, and work your way to Boulder.

    The access does suck doesn't it?

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    this guy is dreaming in technicolor.
    You'd be lucky to sell a place for that money if the place was on the sand at Manhattan Beach. Notice I didn't say you "couldn't sell it. "
    There's always a greater idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dusthuffer
    this guy is dreaming in technicolor.
    You'd be lucky to sell a place for that money if the place was on the sand at Manhattan Beach. Notice I didn't say you "couldn't sell it. "
    There's always a greater idiot.
    Maybe. The place appears to need some upgrades but accommodations can be a viable business in Moab. With the tourism for national parks, especially by Europeans, the occupancy rates are rarely below 50% in the dead of winter (Chamber of commerce stats).

    here is the website of the Inn (more google)

    http://www.pioneerspring.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK_
    (not to mention the recent legalization of "social trails" on recently sold Benjamin property).
    Well since this thread has totally gone completely off topic, I'll continue.

    MK - Am I reading this wrong or does the plan not state that all trails are off limits at this time.

    From the plan:
    "Allowed Uses
    • The Benjamin property will be closed to all public use until the revised Betasso Preserve Management Plan is adopted. The Benjamin property will be included as a part of Betasso Preserve Open Space."

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    That sounds pretty lame to me. You should move.

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    HOME in MOAB

    Friends,

    Wow, this is a very active site; and I have really enjoyed the comments (most of them..did one of you call me an idiot???). And THANK you to nOOby, schnousers, liderman and others who backed me up AND found the link to my realtor. Yeah, we make $10,000 a month during the season .....

    I came to this forum on the advise of my friend Charlie Kelly. I placed a classified ad for my '84 Cunningham (which I sold for $5000 within an hour) and I just thought that a messgae from Moab would be appreciated ... to some it IS. Thank you .

    I moved to Moab almost 25 years ago from Marin - where I was long sinced priced OUT. Yeah, things have really changed - in real estate and in the world. But, I must reiterate, our property is quite special from almost anyones point of view; we have 35,000 gallons a day of the sweetest spingwater ... a TRUE Oasis in our redrock desert.

    I was a cat 1 road & track racer, nor cal pursuit ch., n'tl 10 rec holder and an early Marin Cruiser. I built bicycle trailers and delivered 300 lbs of ... tofu .. 20 miles a day (back in the '80's. I fled Marin for Moab in '85 and have been fairly out of touch until recently ... so plz ..... "give a guy a break". Plz... wish me well - as I do you!

    we just listed the house on YAHOO.com so ... ok!?!

    Keep it sideways,

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    From MOAB

    Friends,

    Wow, this is a very active site; and I have really enjoyed the comments (most of them..did one of you call me an idiot???). And THANK you to nOOby, schnousers, liderman and others who backed me up AND found the link to my realtor. Yeah, we make $10,000 a month during the season .....

    I came to this forum on the advise of my friend Charlie Kelly. I placed a classified ad for my '84 Cunningham (which I sold for $5000 within an hour) and I just thought that a messgae from Moab would be appreciated ... to some it IS. Thank you .

    I moved to Moab almost 25 years ago from Marin - where I was long sinced priced OUT. Yeah, things have really changed - in real estate and in the world. But, I must reiterate, our property is quite special from almost anyones point of view; we have 35,000 gallons a day of the sweetest spingwater ... a TRUE Oasis in our redrock desert.

    I was a cat 1 road & track racer, nor cal pursuit ch., n'tl 10 rec holder and an early Marin Cruiser. I built bicycle trailers and delivered 300 lbs of ... tofu .. 20 miles a day (back in the '80's. I fled Marin for Moab in '85 and have been fairly out of touch until recently ... so plz ..... "give a guy a break". Plz... wish me well - as I do you!

    we just listed the house on YAHOO.com so ... ok!?!

    Keep it sideways,

    Witz
    PS hey DASH the address is 1275 boulder av (just s. of town)

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    It's not buying a house that's so bad in Boulder - it's living there that sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itswitz
    Friends,

    Wow, this is a very active site; and I have really enjoyed the comments (most of them..did one of you call me an idiot???). And THANK you to nOOby, schnousers, liderman and others who backed me up AND found the link to my realtor. Yeah, we make $10,000 a month during the season .....

    I came to this forum on the advise of my friend Charlie Kelly. I placed a classified ad for my '84 Cunningham (which I sold for $5000 within an hour) and I just thought that a messgae from Moab would be appreciated ... to some it IS. Thank you .

    I moved to Moab almost 25 years ago from Marin - where I was long sinced priced OUT. Yeah, things have really changed - in real estate and in the world. But, I must reiterate, our property is quite special from almost anyones point of view; we have 35,000 gallons a day of the sweetest spingwater ... a TRUE Oasis in our redrock desert.

    I was a cat 1 road & track racer, nor cal pursuit ch., n'tl 10 rec holder and an early Marin Cruiser. I built bicycle trailers and delivered 300 lbs of ... tofu .. 20 miles a day (back in the '80's. I fled Marin for Moab in '85 and have been fairly out of touch until recently ... so plz ..... "give a guy a break". Plz... wish me well - as I do you!

    we just listed the house on YAHOO.com so ... ok!?!

    Keep it sideways,

    Witz
    PS hey DASH the address is 1275 boulder av (just s. of town)
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    $10,000 a month during season. And the season would be about five months? That would be $10,000 net or gross? Plus, you are basically working 24 hours a day running a B&B. I know because I had a dream once of owning a B&B in NH. That was until I found out how much "work" it really is. Good luck on whatever your new venture is.

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    Schnauzers,

    actually, Moab's visitor season starts w/ the 1/2 marathong in mid feb. and lasts until after the 24 hrs. of moab. that's eight months.

    you are right tho', B&Bing isn't much fun unless you really enjoy the guests. We don't cow-tow to guests and make plenty of space for our selves. Usually, folks go out after breakfast and we don't see 'em untill ... breakfast. We'vve made a good income (for moab) for nine years. with four months off each year.

    But really, the B&B is incidental to the REAL value of our property ... pristene springwater and plenty of breathing room.

    you're in a band?!?! I play jazz trumpet.

    B natural

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    Originally Posted by schnauzers
    Rough crowd. Give the guy a break, it's hard to sell property anywhere right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    I don't give a rat's a$$. Keep it out of the forum.
    Hey Schnauzers, when Skaredshtles posted this, did you p.m. him, like you did me, and ask what what the phuck his problem was? I was just wondering if you do that with everyone that disagrees with you, or if I still hold a special place in your heart.

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    Here's an idea. How about we *all* start trying to sell our real estate on the forums? And while we're at it, let's sell bikes, too.

    Oh - and let's also open it up to selling all our $hit we'd otherwise sell on Craigslist.

    Hold on... is that a slippery slope I'm on?

    I've got a Nicros climbing hangboard for sale. Oh, and an old HP DeskJet printer. Anyone interested?

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    I'm still trying to sell that stupid refrigerator that's in my garage, so I guess I'll put that add in my sig again, as well as some other meaningless spam. Tell you what, if anyone buys this fridge, I'll throw in a couple tickets to the next public appearance of schnauzer's band. Just check his signature for the dates and times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Originally Posted by schnauzers
    Rough crowd. Give the guy a break, it's hard to sell property anywhere right now.



    Hey Schnauzers, when Skaredshtles posted this, did you p.m. him, like you did me, and ask what what the phuck his problem was? I was just wondering if you do that with everyone that disagrees with you, or if I still hold a special place in your heart.
    No, just you. Your special.

    Your reply was a bit more abrasive than SS's, especially for someone who has never met me. There are plenty here that know me. I'm not a "bad" person contrary to what you may think or assume. Anyway, life goes on.

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    Funny thing is, I'm really not the total arsehole in real life that I portray on the internet. I'm actually an okay guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    I'm still trying to sell that stupid refrigerator that's in my garage, so I guess I'll put that add in my sig again, as well as some other meaningless spam. Tell you what, if anyone buys this fridge, I'll throw in a couple tickets to the next public appearance of schnauzer's band. Just check his signature for the dates and times.
    Hey, thanks for the help. I appreciate it. But to tell you the truth, putting the ad in the sig actually helps our Google and Gigmaster search stats. Whether or not you or anyone in this forum show up is really not a concern. We do just fine without you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Funny thing is, I'm really not the total arsehole in real life that I portray on the internet. I'm actually an okay guy.
    I'm sure that's true as has been the case with most people I have met from the Internet. I have had the opportunity to ride all over this country with different people I've met on the Internet. Some from this forum and some from other MTB forums. Everyone of them were very different from the way they acted on the net. It's easy to be someone you are not when you are invisible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers
    Whether or not you or anyone in this forum show up is really not a concern.
    Hostility isn't the best vehicle to promote a band. I'm just saying.

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    So do you want to buy my hangboard or DeskJet?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by athalliah
    Hostility isn't the best vehicle to promote a band. I'm just saying.
    So Athalliah, are you saying that Shnauzers purposely provokes us with his unrelenting spam, in an effort to promote his band? I am offended by his attempt tp manipulate me by offending me!

    SS, wanna trade your deskjet for my fridge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Tell you what, if anyone buys this fridge, I'll throw in a couple tickets to the next public appearance of schnauzer's band. Just check his signature for the dates and times.
    LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    So Athalliah, are you saying that Shnauzers purposely provokes us with his unrelenting spam, in an effort to promote his band? I am offended by his attempt tp manipulate me by offending me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by athalliah
    Hostility isn't the best vehicle to promote a band. I'm just saying.
    Nothing hostile, that's not me. Like I've offered before. If you come by, say hi, tell me your from MTBR, and I'll buy you a beer. If you want to have a good time and have nothing better to do on cool winter night, then see the band. Hey, going out to bars and watching bands is not everyone's thing. The only time I ever do it is when I am playing.

    Our best promotion is those who see us. They usually come back. Oh, and I don't do it for money. We're lucky if we make $20 each. It's just pure fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers
    If you come by, say hi, tell me your from MTBR, and I'll buy you a beer.
    There are 22,340 active MTBR members. That's a lot of beers. And at $20 per night I suspect that you might be loosing money with such an offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    There are 22,340 active MTBR members. That's a lot of beers. And at $20 per night I suspect that you might be loosing money with such an offer.

    That is true, but I don't think people are flying from all over the country to Denver in order to see Stifler's Mom. So let's confine it to the Front Range forum of which there are 103 "active" users. If three of them show up, I would surprised. Want to prove me wrong? Please do. It's sort of like this...

    We played the Buffalo Rose. Their deal is the band charges whatever cover they want and keep 100%. I said, lets just get people in and not charge a cover. We do it for fun anyway. Well, 150 people showed up and drank a lot of booze. That made the owner happy who in turn felt bad we didn't charge a cover and gave us $200. So, my point is prove me wrong. Let's see 103 show up. So, I am out $300 for the night, but would probably get that back from the bar anyway. Additionally, the band shows that it has drawing power which get's us better gigs for more money in better venues. Viral marketing!

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