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    Green Mountain is a NO GO

    Man what a mess. The trail has snow/ice so we figured it was good to go. NOT THE CASE!!! A couple of friends and I continued uphill pushing our bikes knowing just a short distance ahead would be the north face and snow. Well I guess I have forgoten how quick that area melts off. Luckily there was still a lot of snow but there was also plenty of mud by the time we finished the ride. Up top was great. Hard pack snow with periodic ice.. Throw in a rock every now and them but no dirt.. That quickly changed when returning. We ended up bailing off of the trail at a different entry/exit point and retuning to our vehicles via the road so we wouldn't tear it up. Not what I thought was going to happen. The morning was a nice start.. guess we just took to long to do it.

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    Da mud, boss, da mud!
    So it seems to me to be, this thing that I think I see.

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    No go, but did it anyway.

    Really should get out earlier as to not kill the trail.
    This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hojiman
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    No go, but did it anyway.

    Really should get out earlier as to not kill the trail.

    When we started it wasn't bad, got to the top with the snow and it was nice... The return to the bottom... not so good We bailed to the road the quickest way we knew...

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    Me thinks you guys owe COMBA a "donation".

    www.weather.com.....use the hour by hour forecast....AND

    CAN ICE MELT WHEN
    THE AIR TEMPERATURE IS SUB-FREEZING?
    by METEOROLOGIST JEFF HABY

    I have made this observation on days in the winter in which there was snow cover: The air temperature was below freezing yet ice and snow was melting off house roofs, cars and other objects. Why would this occur?

    1. Air is a very poor absorber of solar radiation while objects on the earth's surface are much better at absorbing. Even snow with its very high albedo and reflective ability is more absorbing of solar radiation than the air. While a temperature sensor exposed to the air may detect temperatures below freezing, the sun's radiation can warm individual objects above freezing (especially objects with a low albedo).

    2. The temperature of the earth's ground surface and/or objects on the surface may be above freezing. The air temperature at the observing level may be below freezing while the temperature of air immediately surrounding certain objects may be above freezing. This can occur when the soil temperature has not yet adjusted to or modified the air temperature at the observing level.

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    Awesome. See you at the next trail day.

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    OP, I understand that you guys got off the trail ASAP.

    The kick in the balls to many members is that you have 4 pics of muddy bikes for the sake of muddy bikes. No need to rub it in like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunchie
    Awesome. See you at the next trail day.
    I have earned it to say the least.

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    I thought you were kidding when you replied to my post yesterday and said you were going. Sorry if i mislead you into thinking it was OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmac
    I thought you were kidding when you replied to my post yesterday and said you were going. Sorry if i mislead you into thinking it was OK.
    I saw the snow and prayed for the best. I guess I was hoping the snow would stay just one day longer. This isn't your fault. The top was nice though..

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    Oh the poor trail will be scared for life! Whatever, you guys did more damage to your bikes than you did to that trail. It's a freaking federal offense for a mtn bike to get muddy these days. I'm sure nobody on here has ever gotten caught out in questionable conditions.

    Ride on rover man, you guys rule.

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    Those ruts will never smooth out. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mateomtb
    Oh the poor trail will be scared for life! Whatever, you guys did more damage to your bikes than you did to that trail. It's a freaking federal offense for a mtn bike to get muddy these days. I'm sure nobody on here has ever gotten caught out in questionable conditions.

    Ride on rover man, you guys rule.
    I have to agree. Tail damage sucks but looks like they rode right down the middle just like you should. Most folks scared to get the bikes dirty make the trail WIDE and ugly. A couple of ruts get beat down pretty fast when traffic picks up.

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    Green mountain was fine for riding early this morning (if you like ice). No mud at all and no way to damage anything, the ground was rock solid. Just have to finish before the sun hits the trail at anything more than an oblique angle, is all. Helps to go on an overcast morning and super early is the ONLY way. It's super easy to make the judgement error of starting when it's solid only to find it turn to chowder when it's too late and you are way up top. If you see a bunch of people starting out in the parking lot on brand new Trek's with reflectors on the wheels with gigantic Camelbak's filled to the brim with (???), you know you're too late
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    Get a clue guys!!! The trail obviously isn't anywhere close to being ready.

    I agree. You should give COMBA a donation and show up for some trail work days to make up for the nasty ruts you made. You guys don't exactly look like featherweights. I'm guessing those were some deep ruts.

    STUPID!!

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    Gee, rover, aren't you glad you started this thread? Never underestimate the a'holes on here.

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    One thing to keep in mind.

    Thousand's of people ride those trails and 10's of people make it happen. I know from personal experiance that it take 10-15 hours of trail work to fix only 10 feet of trail that gets torn up.

    These guys said they exited as soon as they could. And I guess that is all that can be expected. He also said he will be out to help fix this so........

    next time just don't appear to be too proud of the mud on the bike.

    You weren't at a resort or racing CX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldsteele
    I know from personal experiance that it take 10-15 hours of trail work to fix only 10 feet of trail that gets torn up.

    Really? I'd like an example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mateomtb
    Oh the poor trail will be scared for life! Whatever, you guys did more damage to your bikes than you did to that trail. It's a freaking federal offense for a mtn bike to get muddy these days. I'm sure nobody on here has ever gotten caught out in questionable conditions.

    Ride on rover man, you guys rule.

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    Calm down people. The OP said once they started getting really muddy, they found the quickest way they knew of back to the bottom. He posted pics of the conditions and said it's too muddy- probably prevented a handful of other people from going out there.

    Funrover: thanks for the report. Even though you got flamed for "destroying the trail", you gave a great status update of the conditions on GM. Lots of people post up trail conditions of "way too muddy" but don't get flamed because they didn't post pics of themselves getting muddy.

    And, everybody should pitch in to help COMBA, not just people that stick their necks out there to provide the rest of us with trail conditions reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldsteele
    . I know from personal experiance that it take 10-15 hours of trail work to fix only 10 feet of trail that gets torn up.
    Really I am baffled to are these workers employed by the state or is it a union. Because daveec113 and myself can probably cover 10ft of trail in about 30minutes and thats proven.
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    Who cares about the trail. Mud is terrible for your drivetrain and brakes. Nothing like having to shell out $200 for a new chain/chainrings/cassette/brakepads just to ride in the mud.

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    Well my experience is from the mid west where everyone is entitled. A little mud spot turns into a 12 foot wide 20 foot long mud hole. Because nobody wants to get their bike muddy so they keep riding around it. Maybe you CO guys are trail working gods or something. This state has to be proud to have you here.

    I'm used to far worse conditions then what is experienced here.

    State employed workers???? It is all voluntary where I spent the last 8 or so years building and maintaining trails. We didn't have someone else to do the work for us. There is about a 20 person core of builders.

    So I put 10 instead of 100 so whatever......everything on the internet is 100% true the first time it's typed anyways......
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    Well...

    Well, I'm not saying it's the worse thing, and I trust what you said about getting off as soon as it started getting soggy...but...lot's of people see these threads/forum and it might not be the best press....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldsteele
    One thing to keep in mind.

    Thousand's of people ride those trails and 10's of people make it happen. I know from personal experiance that it take 10-15 hours of trail work to fix only 10 feet of trail that gets torn up.

    These guys said they exited as soon as they could. And I guess that is all that can be expected. He also said he will be out to help fix this so........

    next time just don't appear to be too proud of the mud on the bike.

    You weren't at a resort or racing CX.

    So do help with the trails because you enjoy it or so you can come on here and tell us you do? Doing work to help others is great, to think it gives you the right to lecture others or feel a bit superior negates any of the benefit...BR

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    FWIW - I rode most of the same spots Saturday night that FunRover covered Friday. It was freaking cold and frozen and I could see no evidence of tire ruts. I could see some tire tracks/lines but no ruts at all. The couple of horses that had been up the trail were a different story though - deep enough holes and ripped up trail to make me drop a gear to get through it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmac
    FWIW - I rode most of the same spots Saturday night that FunRover covered Friday. It was freaking cold and frozen and I could see no evidence of tire ruts. I could see some tire tracks/lines but no ruts at all. The couple of horses that had been up the trail were a different story though - deep enough holes and ripped up trail to make me drop a gear to get through it.
    Glad we didn't tear it up, We tried not to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokefork
    Gee, rover, aren't you glad you started this thread? Never underestimate the a'holes on here.

    I wouldn't argue the fact that I'm an a'hole, but at least I won't be the a'hole that causes a trail to be closed because I had to ride it on a muddy day. I'm a much smarter a'hole than that.

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    Law of unintended consequences: You dummies browbeat a guy for posting pics of bad trail conditions, which causes fewer people to report bad conditions, which causes more people to go to the trail to find out conditions, which causes more people to ride the trail in bad condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggs
    I'm a much smarter a'hole than that.
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    Let's think a little here fellows:

    It's February.
    It's been snowing almost weekly.
    There was still snow on Green Mtn.
    It was above freezing.

    Do you really need pictures to prove the trail is muddy? Trust me, most people reading these forums know better, and don't need pictures to tell them trails might be muddy this time of year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggs
    Let's think a little!
    Do you really need pictures to prove the trail is muddy? Trust me, most people reading these forums know better

    I'm gonna call a bullsh!t on that!

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    Thanks for posting Rover. Your ride reports have been inspiring this winter. You have definitely gotten out more than me.

    Dont worry what these fools say about going out for a ride and hitting some mud. It happens and you did nothing wrong.

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    I think he feels really bad. I have always enjoyed his posts and pictures, but especially his attitude of get out there and enjoy yourself. Keep those ride pics coming rover, ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaydude
    Thanks for posting Rover. Your ride reports have been inspiring this winter. You have definitely gotten out more than me.

    Dont worry what these fools say about going out for a ride and hitting some mud. It happens and you did nothing wrong.

    Maybe we should all go ride a muddy trail and post some pictures of it? I'm sure this would greatly improve relations with hikers and land managers. I bet they'd love to see some new muddy ruts in all the front range trails.

    Pictures are cool, but post some smart ones. I can just imagine these pictures coming up at the next JCOS meeting.

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    when did mtn biking lose its fun for some of you guys like wiggs??? it really is a shame to see that type of attitude. i do my share of trail building/maintenance as well and i can assure you its not the end of the world to smooth out a few ruts every now and then, really not as big a deal as people make it seem sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schw8901
    when did mtn biking lose its fun for some of you guys like wiggs??? it really is a shame to see that type of attitude. i do my share of trail building/maintenance as well and i can assure you its not the end of the world to smooth out a few ruts every now and then, really not as big a deal as people make it seem sometimes.
    Not to mention that thawing this time of year probably amounts to the top 1/8 of an inch of soil on the trail. That mud up on GM is just really damned sticky... you could gum up your bike all to hell and do virtually NO damage to the trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schw8901
    when did mtn biking lose its fun for some of you guys like wiggs??? it really is a shame to see that type of attitude. i do my share of trail building/maintenance as well and i can assure you its not the end of the world to smooth out a few ruts every now and then, really not as big a deal as people make it seem sometimes.

    I have plenty of fun, but when the trails end up getting closed because of this idiotic behavior, none of us will be having fun. We'll all be forced to turn into roadies.

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    wiggs: maybe it's just me, but you sure sound like a whiny b!tch! get off your high horse and go ride your bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGuy!
    wiggs: maybe it's just me, but you sure sound like a whiny b!tch! get off your high horse and go ride your bike!

    ThatGuy - Maybe it's just me, but you sure sound like you're one of FunRover's fat friends in those pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggs
    ThatGay - Maybe it's just me, but you sure sound like you're one of FunRover's fat friends in those pictures.
    You went from attacking fellow riders, to including gays and fat people...you are a real class act.....BR

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGuy!
    wiggs: maybe it's just me, but you sure sound like a whiny b!tch! get off your high horse and go ride your bike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by B-Rant
    Law of unintended consequences: You dummies browbeat a guy for posting pics of bad trail conditions, which causes fewer people to report bad conditions, which causes more people to go to the trail to find out conditions, which causes more people to ride the trail in bad condition.
    Seems like most everyone agrees that the posting of muddy pictures was unnecessary. NOW, this thread is just confirming for me that people are stupid, and the ones that are backing up the stupid guy are now just trying to justify their stupidity with a show of solidarity.

    I know that's a lot of "s's" in one sentence, but sheeeeessh!
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    Nice edit

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggs
    ThatGay - Maybe it's just me, but you sure sound like you're one of FunRover's fat friends in those pictures.

    But the "a" and "u" key are pretty far apart so don't say it was a typo .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggs
    ThatGuy - Maybe it's just me, but you sure sound like you're one of FunRover's fat friends in those pictures.

    Really??? well at least it proves to everyone what a joke you are so that they're not inclined to take any of your comments seriously. way to get your point across, well played dude.

    Rover: keep having fun and keep posting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenR
    You went from attacking fellow riders, to including gays and fat people...you are a real class act.....BR

    I fixed my spelling. That wasn't cool. I like gay people. Still not a fan of fat people.

    Seriously, do you guys really think:
    a. That ride did NO trail damage.
    b. Left nothing for hikers to complain about.
    c. These pictures would make a good case to Jeffco or any other county for letting us use their multi-use trails.

    If you do, you're clueless.

    Pick up a winter sport and give the trails a rest! We don't live in Phoenix.

    Now I'm going to ride my bike home. Take that!

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    I don't think it matters if they post muddy pictures or not, doesn't make a difference either way...Perhaps the people that are all wound up need a winter hobby...running around attacking other bikers makes you look like angry hikers and horse people. It is green mountain, I have rode it with and without ruts, still a nice workout...If people need a super smooth surface, there are always road bikes....bR

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenR
    I don't think it matters if they post muddy pictures or not, doesn't make a difference either way...Perhaps the people that are all wound up need a winter hobby...running around attacking other bikers makes you look like angry hikers and horse people. It is green mountain, I have rode it with and without ruts, still a nice workout...If people need a super smooth surface, there are always road bikes....bR

    You really don't get it do you. You don't see what's wrong with this? You think it's okay to tear up local multi use trails and think nobody will care. You think there will be no consequences. How long have all you guys lived here (the ones arguing with me)? Are you even aware that we have to fight to keep these trails open to bikers and the disucssions get more heated every season? Have you ever been to a JCOS meeting to hear hikers and equestrians complain about us?

    I'm sure you all think I'm an a-hole and a whiney bi*tch I'm okay with that. I'm just trying to fill in the noobs and freds that obviously don't know what they're doing is wrong. I'm looking forward to when some other logical forum readers chime in and back me up since I'm clearly outnumbered now. I guess ignorance loves company.

    Okay, NOW I'm riding home!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggs
    ThatGuy - Maybe it's just me, but you sure sound like you're one of FunRover's fat friends in those pictures.
    Dude, you need to STFU already! Absolutely no need for personal insults. MTBing doesn't discriminate, even against douchebags like you. Rover's out there doing what he loves, which is a lot more than my lazy ass is this winter. We need more people with his passion and enthusiasm. Not once have I've seen him post anything negative. EVER! His post are always positive and fun. He's what we need to balance with stupid asses like you. Keep it up, Aaron. You guys rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggs
    You really don't get it do you. You don't see what's wrong with this? You think it's okay to tear up local multi use trails and think nobody will care. You think there will be no consequences. How long have all you guys lived here (the ones arguing with me)? Are you even aware that we have to fight to keep these trails open to bikers and the disucssions get more heated every season? Have you ever been to a JCOS meeting to hear hikers and equestrians complain about us?

    I'm sure you all think I'm an a-hole and a whiney bi*tch I'm okay with that. I'm just trying to fill in the noobs and freds that obviously don't know what they're doing is wrong. I'm looking forward to when some other logical forum readers chime in and back me up since I'm clearly outnumbered now. I guess ignorance loves company.

    Okay, NOW I'm riding home!
    Go and re-read his post. He owned up to his mistake. Conditions were good when he started. He had good intentions, just posting a report. Seeing pictures here isn't gonna make difference. JCOS can see the damage bikes do when they're out on the trails already. They don't need to come to MTBR to look for evidence.

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    Funrover - keep the ride photos coming...I always enjoy your posts. Keep rocking the trails dude
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    Wow, somebody has enough sand in their crack to make that trail rideable all year long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggs
    You really don't get it do you. You don't see what's wrong with this? You think it's okay to tear up local multi use trails and think nobody will care. You think there will be no consequences. How long have all you guys lived here (the ones arguing with me)? Are you even aware that we have to fight to keep these trails open to bikers and the disucssions get more heated every season? Have you ever been to a JCOS meeting to hear hikers and equestrians complain about us?

    I'm sure you all think I'm an a-hole and a whiney bi*tch I'm okay with that. I'm just trying to fill in the noobs and freds that obviously don't know what they're doing is wrong. I'm looking forward to when some other logical forum readers chime in and back me up since I'm clearly outnumbered now. I guess ignorance loves company.

    Okay, NOW I'm riding home!
    Well I hope you are not the one fighting for us to be able to ride or we are all in trouble no doubt....BR

    Also I do have a clue, just people with your attitude and tact are worse than any ruts, that is for sure...

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    Fyi

    Green Mountain is not a JCOS park, it belongs to the City of Lakewood.

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    How's about a pic where mud is no factor:
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    So it seems to me to be, this thing that I think I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcguy
    How's about a pic where mud is no factor:
    Hmmm... Deadman's?

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    I'm starting to think that wiggs is the reincarnation of Lyle Crumbstrom. He never gives up on his BS arguments, and everyone thinks he's an A'hole.

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    I'm with Wiggs- Fat Boys need to stick to rappin' and stay off the wet trails. City of Lakewood Parks and Trails dept has already seen these pics.
    Besides, I don't buy the story that it was fine on the way up- looks a bit later in the morning to me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggs
    Okay, NOW I'm riding home!
    Please don't use the bike lanes as they are vulnerable at this time of year. I think the middle of the road will suit you better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hojiman
    I'm with Wiggs- Fat Boys need to stick to rappin' and stay off the wet trails. City of Lakewood Parks and Trails dept has already seen these pics.
    Besides, I don't buy the story that it was fine on the way up- looks a bit later in the morning to me...
    s**t! I hope they don't shut down green mountain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hojiman
    I'm with Wiggs-
    So you both have sandyginas?
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    I grew up next to and have spent the last 25 years wandering around on the GM trails. I did a study on muddy trail use and I found that if a funrover made tracks on the trail - 4 Days Ago 04:58 PM - there would be no trace of them on - 2 Days Ago 02:53 PM -

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    Quote Originally Posted by davec113
    So you both have sandyginas?

    Yeah got a sandygina!!! Some fatty-mcfat-fatties are making mud trenches in trails and I'm riding roads or indoors because winter won't end. AND I'm arguing with you nerds on the internet. Lame!

    F-yes I've got a sandygina!

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    Wow!

    Fat guys should be rappers!?? Are there any other stereotypes you may want to throw in there? Really? Since when does it matter what kind of person you are?

    bottom line is trails have been sh*t this winter, we have been spoiled in the past few winters with several options to ride. Ride when frozen has been the only option, or when dry. GM is typically first thing to dry so people attempt it.

    There are many opportunities to give back out there, find one and join in! Or just talk sh*t on here and act like you are holier than all others!

    and wiggs: come on out and ride with that guy i"ll laugh my a$$ off when he schools you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggs
    Yeah got a sandygina!!! Some fatty-mcfat-fatties are making mud trenches in trails and I'm riding roads or indoors because winter won't end. AND I'm arguing with you nerds on the internet. Lame!

    F-yes I've got a sandygina!

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    Word___///___That's "Rapper" lingo

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    OMG ! What do you do about this ?



    A brief 30 min thunderstorm in mid July rolled in on my ride and I had to ride out through this..

    Good God !!


    I guess I should have just parked my bike and bivied for a day or two until I didn't make a track in the trail !!

    MTB since ' 69.

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    Took some digging but this coulda been me in about '71. Bet they had to close that trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBR me!
    Fat guys should be rappers!?? Are there any other stereotypes you may want to throw in there? Really? Since when does it matter what kind of person you are
    I am dealing with a few rocket scientists- I forgot- book smarts, no street smarts, the nerds in school that never went out to play. Fat Boys is a reference to the name of a group of overweight rappers from the 80's, The Fat Boys. They had many hits including "Fat Boys", "The Fat Boys Are Back!" and "Wipe Out" which sampled a song from a group all you white people like- The Beach Boys.

    Look, we all know what they did was lame and should have been done earlier in the day, possibly earlier in the week. Posting the pics of it and letting everyone under the sky in on the obvious fact that yeah, the trail isn't frozen because the low this morning was 27 degrees, prolly isn't the best plan one has had in the past couple of weeks. Just sayin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hojiman
    I am dealing with a few rocket scientists- I forgot- book smarts, no street smarts, the nerds in school that never went out to play. Fat Boys is a reference to the name of a group of overweight rappers from the 80's, The Fat Boys. They had many hits including "Fat Boys", "The Fat Boys Are Back!" and "Wipe Out" which sampled a song from a group all you white people like- The Beach Boys.

    Look, we all know what they did was lame and should have been done earlier in the day, possibly earlier in the week. Posting the pics of it and letting everyone under the sky in on the obvious fact that yeah, the trail isn't frozen because the low this morning was 27 degrees, prolly isn't the best plan one has had in the past couple of weeks. Just sayin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onbelaydave


    A brief 30 min thunderstorm in mid July rolled in on my ride and I had to ride out through this..

    Good God !!


    I guess I should have just parked my bike and bivied for a day or two until I didn't make a track in the trail !!

    MTB since ' 69.

    When did you start ?
    Yeah, exactly the same scenario we've been talking about.

    Good point...

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    Ummm, Wipe Out was from 'The Surfaris' - Written by and recorded by... Just sayin'

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    Is it a fair assumption that GM, along with every other trail that exists is forever closed, as I'm positive they have each been ridden in unsavory conditions & are therefore destroyed?

    Guess it's time to sell my MTB & buy a roadie.
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    I'll come out from underneath my snowcovered rock for one posting, before I sneak back under it for the rest of winter....

    IMO, it's not about the trail here...sometimes it is, but not here. This trail WILL be fine in couple days if it isn't already. It's about perception folks...PR, yeah public relations, I hate the fact that my "passion" has a political aspect to it, but guess what folks...it does, and if we'd like to work on maintaining the access we have and perhaps increasing it where it makes sense, we have to be careful how others OUTSIDE our group perceive of us.

    What little advocacy stuff I've done, I've seen my fair share of some person/group with a predisposition to not liking mtn bikers on their trails take something like this and run with it to land managers. While this is certainly not APEX, just a few individuals made a mess of that park for mtn bikers. I could see it happen again in different circumstance, and anything that could put us in a negative light could increase those chances.

    Not bashing the OP or anyone else on this thread...just some food for thought..

    Tata folks and hopefully we can all get out riding more and posting less.

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    I like mud

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    Quote Originally Posted by WKD-RDR
    I like mud
    How many pages of Goggle's image search did you have to go through before finding one that was safe for work?
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    Goggle's
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    Quote Originally Posted by McStank
    Beer?
    No, happy fingers.
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    How many pages of Goggle's image search did you have to go through before finding one that was safe for work?

    My beer Goggle Safe Search is on here at work, so only a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avion.nomad
    Took some digging but this coulda been me in about '71. Bet they had to close that trail.
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    Hooligan! That kid is going to get that trail closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    Looks like he should close his vagina as well, there are some ruts in that sand....

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    This thread needs some Awesome.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    This thread needs some Awesome.

    Now that's a dose of Random. Hilarious! (Insert 'smiley face rolling on floor')

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    Wiggs - Can't wait to see you riding your mud-free Niner One9 and Ellsworth Evolve.

    I'll make sure I'll roughly introduce myself to you.
    We'll straighten' out you issue with fat boys like me, dude. You can count on it.

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    Threats? Well, this thread is going down in flames.
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles
    Hmmm... Deadman's?
    Southwest side of Green Mountain. Part of my favorite loop. Start at the Rooney parking lot, head south, go left at the first main intersection (out in that big meadow), snake your way up and around then up the part in my pic. Eventually you get to the highest point on GM, which you would have gotten to by going up the service road. Down over to The Rusty Sign Trail, down that to wherever, turn around and go back up the Rusty Sign Trail---then down the service road or back the way you came.

    Actually, I would park in Morrison and hammer up the bike trail just for a warm up before I did the above. I've done every loop around Green Mountain for years, this was one I started doing as soon as they cut in the new trail in the pic a few years ago.

    More green Green Mountain pics of that route (early morning last July) remember how green everything was?
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    So it seems to me to be, this thing that I think I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClydesTwo
    Wiggs - Can't wait to see you riding your mud-free Niner One9 and Ellsworth Evolve.

    I'll make sure I'll roughly introduce myself to you.
    We'll straighten' out you issue with fat boys like me, dude. You can count on it.
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    good thread - so far it has made my day...haha. just glad i don't own a Niner One9 or a Ellsworth Evolve...if i did i guess i would get beat up..
    Anyways - gm is gm - enough said...it is fun and can take abuse.

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    Decided to hit up GM & take a look today.

    Was mostly good, a slippy spot here & there, just had to work the clutch a bit.
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    wait, riding trails when it's muddy is bad?




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    Wiggs and ClydesTwo behind the church after school...

    Quote Originally Posted by ClydesTwo
    Wiggs - Can't wait to see you riding your mud-free Niner One9 and Ellsworth Evolve.

    I'll make sure I'll roughly introduce myself to you.
    We'll straighten' out you issue with fat boys like me, dude. You can count on it.
    Hey at least MTBR can charge more for their ads now- one more member!

    I thought I was the instigator but Wiggs gets the threats, c'mon man, where's my share?

    It is really awesome to sign up for an account and make empty threats. I want to see you rollin' up on my invisible ride. White boys get dealt with quick is all I'm sayin'. You can count on it.
    This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hojiman
    I thought I was the instigator but Wiggs gets the threats, c'mon man, where's my share?
    I think Wiggs put more effort into it, and kept after it a little harder.
    Keep tryin' - seems like you're getting closer.
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