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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! FYI - There are spy cameras on Apex

    The next time you're on the Apex trail, wave to all of the "hidden" spy cameras. These units (see link below) are strategically positioned at all of the intersections with the main trail (Pick 'n Sledge, Sluice, and top and bottom of Enchanted Forest).

    http://www.reconyx.com/hyperfire.php?model=PC

    Two are in armored, metal boxes on pedestals that are painted camoflage presumably to "blend in." Another two (both located where Enchanted joins the main trail) are just the units themselves, bike-locked up in trees, aimed right at the trail.

    I'm sure that these cameras (which retail for between $450 and $650 each, depending on the model - yeah, that's a good use of Open Space funds...) have been put up to catch all of the illegal off-leash dogs and horses that $hit all over the trail. It's just strange that they just happen to be strategically aimed at all of the one-way biking signs. Yeah, THAT'S weird...

    Big Brother is watching. I bet there are some runner and hikers that wouldn't enjoy being "spied on" either.

    C'mon, JCOS. Why try to hide these things? If you're going to waste taxpayer money and put these stupid things up, just put them in plain sight for crying out loud, and put them so that they're not so obviously positioned to try to secretly "catch" only one particular user group that may or may not be violating JCOS rules and regulations. Un-friggin'-real.

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    Wtf?

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    ^^^^^^ what he said


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    I saw those and wondered. At first I thought they were trail counters...then my second thought was hey I am at Apex...they are probably cameras (half joking). Then I realized where they were located. Oh JCOS...is that what it has come to?
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    Yeah, seriously WTF. I honestly couldn't believe it.

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    Boulder County has them all over their open space properties. They are movement sensing cameras. At least in BoCo's case, they use them quite extensively for wildlife management. I've seen some pretty cool mountain lion photos from them. I don't think placing cameras at major trail intersections, though, is going to catch much wildlife.
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    Wildlife management is certainly a valid use. I'm going to go out on a limb here though and say that these are not for that purpose. Though they might get some interesting "wildlife" shots from people now...

    I'd be less pissed if they were'nt so blatantly positioned to catch bikers. There's no hiding that fact.

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    Next time I ride Apex, on the correct day, I'm going to drop my pants by one of those cameras. They can get a nice photo of my posterior. Some one should ride by in a banana hammock.

    That is ridiculous waste of money, including the time they pay some one to look at the footage. I say f**k with them.
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    Two of them may have been realigned by the recent severe hail storm. It was pretty bad in Golden. There are lots of angry squirrells, too.

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    Maybe you can get some of these made to mount on a bike, or fricken lasers
    http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/521339/

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    They're probably just looking for this guy:
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    Tape a piece of construction paper over the camera?

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    Wow, that is crazy........I can see for wildlife management like others said, but this seems to go beyond that.

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    Or you can take a Polaroid of the trail and use a piece of coat hanger to hang the picture in front of the lens.

    I saw that in a movie.

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    I saw one last time I rode. You can definitely tell they are motion sensor cameras if you look close. I was tempted to wave when I passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enduroslrider
    I'd be less pissed if they were'nt so blatantly positioned to catch bikers.
    Hidden even. What's the purpose in that? What's the possible upside to having them hidden, instead of out in the open as a deterrent?

    This would seem a rather important development to mention to user groups. I was not at the last TUFT meeting but don't remember hearing this discussed at all. Was the TUFT informed about this? Have they been yet? I can't think of one good reason why they wouldn't be, seeing as though they're such an important subcommittee absolutely integral to open, honest, and forthright open space management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TVC15
    ...open, honest, and forthright open space management.
    HA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by enduroslrider
    HA!
    ... oh, and I forgot to mention reasonable, fair and equitable.

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    I'm with Scared... just put a bag over it! haa haa haa.
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    They're just wildlife cameras normally found in places like CCone to see when the elk have gone, probably using them to count traffic since the IR one's can't discern b/t user groups. I wouldn't screw with them. Pretty sure vandalism is still against the law.

    FWIW They could be found anywhere at anytime considering there's nothing preventing them from doing so.

    Funny stuff though, because the term Open Space just became an oxymoron.

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    The idea that an individual can live in a surveillance society with nothing to fear so long as they have nothing to hide may, on the face of it, appear attractive. For those of us who think of ourselves as 'honest' - we pay our taxes, don't commit murders and are loyal to our partners - why indeed should we fear surveillance?

    "Nothing to hide, nothing to fear" (NTHNTF) is a myth that is built on certain false assumptions, and these assumptions are never questioned when it is wheeled out as an argument to support whatever draconian surveillance measure is being pushed out in the face of citizen opposition (commercial organisations rarely try such an approach, since it dooms them to failure from the very beginning). These assumptions include:

    http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/...ou-have-n.html

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    I'm sure they are just there to count deer, and racoons..........
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    All it'll take is one kid taking a whiz on the side of the trail without knowing the cameras are there and JeffCo can be busted for child pornography.

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    Well...

    Even if they were surveillance, if your aren't doing anything wrong it's not a problem.

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    Sorry guys, those are mine. I'm shooting a new freeride mtb video called "Extreme Uphill - All Dayz are Odd Dayz!". It's two hours of people cranking slowly uphill and politely dismounting for joggers with off-leash dogs, set to thrash metal music.

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    No good

    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers
    ...Even if they were surveillance...
    Yeah, right - "Even if they were surveillance." They ARE for surveillance OF A CERTAIN USER GROUP and you'll never convince me otherwise based on where they're located and how they are aimed. It's total BS once again.

    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers
    ...if you aren't doing anything wrong it's not a problem.
    Yeah. You just go ahead and keep believing that...Many of us here have been stopped by the JCOS Gestapo while "doing nothing wrong" before. We just happen to be on bikes.
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