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    Falcon Trail access limitations on AFA

    I tried to get on the AFA a couple of days back and they are at "FPCON Bravo" - a heightened level of security. They did not allow me on base via the South Gate and told me that I needed to be with someone with a military ID to ride the Falcon Trail.

    I was told there is limited access from the North Entrance - but only to the Visitor Center and they are not allowing cars to park at the trailheads at all.

    One bike shop told a friend that they are letting folks on at the S entrance to ride - but when I called the visitors center they said that they are not...

    If anyone has any other/newer info. Please post ...

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    FPCON Bravo is due to the Usama Bin Laden mission and end result. There are a series of increased force protection measures that come with each change in FPCON status. Unfortunately, tighter access control is one of them.
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    Yup, I understand ...

    I just wanted to have a place for folks to post any additional info. Perhaps a change in the FPCON status...

    Perhaps someone rode the Santa Fe Trail and cut over and rode Falcon without any issues... just sayin' ;-)

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    I will try to update when the FPCON changes and folks are allowed back on.
    I did ask about the entry from santa fe trail onto the academy, I was told that if you are caught doing that, that you will be escorted off base property by el paso pd and might be charged. (they are doing random checks, I got stopped the other evening riding)

    If you have anyone with a military id card that is willing to ride with you, then the can ride in your car in with you and you are able to ride still. Just give it some time, It is a privileged not a right to ride there any other time. So lets respect the rules and wait till it opens back up.

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    And you can park at the trail heads... as long as you're on base legally, that is.

    Had a nice ride there yesterday; didn't see anyone else and didn't put two and two together!

    Maybe the FPCON B will keep the knuckleheads out while the trails recover a bit. I can't believe the skid marks I'm seeing this year! I don't know if it's a bunch of newbies, XC riders being idiots, the gravity crowd going too fast on XC trails or what, but it's really tearing up the trails at the corners.
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    The last thing COS mountain bikers need is riders trying to sneak onto the Falcon Trail. Just give it a few weeks and everything will be back to normal. Don't forget they are protecting college kids and our future leaders. We just have to be patient. Plus the trail does need some time to recover.

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    So you can only ride if you have a military id?

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    yes or a military person with you that will ride and vouch for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Village Idiot
    The last thing COS mountain bikers need is riders trying to sneak onto the Falcon Trail. Just give it a few weeks and everything will be back to normal. Don't forget they are protecting college kids and our future leaders. We just have to be patient. Plus the trail does need some time to recover.

    They're protecting them from mountain bikers?

    Ridiculous...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggs
    They're protecting them from mountain bikers?

    Ridiculous...
    NO! terrorist that may pose as mountain bikers to gain access to the base, I suppose most folks already know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curtis C
    NO! terrorist that may pose as mountain bikers to gain access to the base, I suppose most folks already know that.

    Again, ridiculous. Never going to happen.

    That would be like a drug dealer trying to sell crack in front of a police station.



    The gate guards search your car anyhow. Maybe they should search harder now if it will make them feel better.

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    Just thinking out loud

    But I would have to say WIGGS, your quite sheltered and out of touch, higher security levels affect every part of military institutions, limiting access is a primary first step.

    Do you really think mountain bikers are being targeted?

    Did 9/11 really happen or was a it Gov't plot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggs
    They're protecting them from mountain bikers?

    Ridiculous...
    Your right it is kinda hard to hide bombs in your Lycra unless you shove 10lbs of c4 up your ass, which is clearly where your head is located at the present time with a thought process like this.

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    Thanks

    Hitchredneck - I appreciate you keeping us informed as to any changes on the FPCON status ... that is exactly why I set up this thread. I was hoping someone would step up and help out - Thanks again!

    It is funny how some folks would think that just mountain bikers are being blocked from the AFA ... It is a military installation and as such limiting access to military personnel and those with appropriate clearance during certain times is necessary.

    I fully understand and respect what's going on and while I just miss the Falcon Trail I'm happy to keep myself busy riding elsewhere and let the trail "rest". It is a privilege and not a right to be able to ride that trail and perhaps this may help others recognize that as well.

    Thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck
    Your right it is kinda hard to hide bombs in your Lycra unless you shove 10lbs of c4 up your ass, which is clearly where your head is located at the present time with a thought process like this.

    Do you guys really think some terrorist is going to select the Air Force Academy as a target AND dress up as a mountain biker for a disguise?

    What, do you think they're planning to sneak in and ride downhill without yielding?

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    Your right

    Who would have thought a hard to hit target like the towers in NY filled with Civilians would have been life changing.

    A military institution, any military institution is a target, what greater way to strike fear into the hearts of AMERICANS than to attach the next generation.

    Wiggs, are you 18 and a Freshman in college, you sure don't think problems through very well.

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    No Wiggs, but most didn't think they would hijack a bunch of planes and fly them into buildings either. Its simply making sure the place is somewhat secure from attack. In order to do that all users including cyclist have to be limited.


    Getting access to Falcon Trail is still pretty darned easy. We have several riding friends that have military Id and would be happy to host a group on the trail. Just sayin there are options out there if you look for them.

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    Take a deep breath Joe! And step down off that soapbox...
    Tact is for people not witty enough to be sarcastic...

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    Yup

    Taken

    Quote Originally Posted by kchri
    Take a deep breath Joe! And step down off that soapbox...

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    Seriously Joe, take it easy. Just gear it down there turbo...

    I'll re-ask my question since you didn't answer it the first time. Do you really think someone fool would try attacking the Air Force Academy, a secure facility, with armed guards, and full of military people who would be on guard anyhow? Wouldn't it be a heck of a lot easier to blow up bus, train, stadium, etc?? Less work, more casualties, more news coverage.

    Who do you think we're fighting anyway, Z-Germans?

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    Simple Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggs
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    I'll re-ask my question since you didn't answer it the first time. Do you really think someone fool would try attacking the Air Force Academy,

    YES

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOEMTBR COLORADO
    YES

    About as likely as being attacked by a shark in Colorado...

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    Nice gettin to know ya

    Have a nice day

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    You as well.

    Your one word answers are so clearly articulated and rationalized. I'm sure you're a hit at dinner parties and social engagements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggs
    Seriously Joe, take it easy. Just gear it down there turbo...

    I'll re-ask my question since you didn't answer it the first time. Do you really think someone fool would try attacking the Air Force Academy, a secure facility, with armed guards, and full of military people who would be on guard anyhow? Wouldn't it be a heck of a lot easier to blow up bus, train, stadium, etc?? Less work, more casualties, more news coverage.

    Who do you think we're fighting anyway, Z-Germans?
    I guess you forgot this little incident?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting

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