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    The empty trail

    Yesterday I headed out to take a ride on, what is, IMHO, clearly the best ride in the front range. Thanks must go to a very nice friend for sharing the good stuff. The thing that always gets me, though, is that I never see anyone there. Yesterday, though, I ran into 4 bikers, only one of whom even attempted to yield while I was climbing. And even he was going to fast to do anything of consequence.

    Point is...this trail has got it all...nice dirt road warmup, rollercoaster forest singletrack, fast descent through rolling hills and brush, wide open plains singletrack, a killer climb back out, and even some slickrock. But the best part...by far...is the scenery. It is stupidly beautiful. And all the while, the trail continues to grow over.

    The Road In:
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    Beginnings of forest singletrack. (Not pictured...rollercoaster sections...too much fun too stop.)
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    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/YummyRide/photo#5206545825344998370"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEFd17p7S-I/AAAAAAAABCo/DWE85eJUwMs/s800/DSCN2902.JPG" /></a>

    Ah...beautiful.
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    Beaker...chillin'.
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    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/YummyRide/photo#5206545894064475154"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEFd57p7TBI/AAAAAAAABDA/a1QqT0aZQ50/s800/DSCN2916.JPG" /></a>

    Ah...the plains.
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    Beaker, a bit frazzled from the descent, posing with the turnaround tower.
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    The trail grows over.
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    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/YummyRide/photo#5206545971373886546"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEFd-bp7TFI/AAAAAAAABDg/QkmW7Soy0dI/s800/DSCN2922.JPG" /></a>

    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/YummyRide/photo#5206545997143690338"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEFd_7p7TGI/AAAAAAAABDo/I7yDEebKm5w/s800/DSCN2925.JPG" /></a>

    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/YummyRide/photo#5206546018618526834"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEFeBLp7THI/AAAAAAAABDw/QFynuHPahu8/s800/DSCN2928.JPG" /></a>

    Baby rattler on the trail?
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    Beaker and friends.
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    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/YummyRide/photo#5206546078748069026"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEFeErp7TKI/AAAAAAAABEM/d2rQEcuTk88/s800/DSCN2939.JPG" /></a>

    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/YummyRide/photo#5206546121697742002"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEFeHLp7TLI/AAAAAAAABEU/IFuiTmNaOQM/s800/DSCN2941.JPG" /></a>

    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/YummyRide/photo#5206546138877611202"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEFeILp7TMI/AAAAAAAABEc/3vdmN0d9hO4/s800/DSCN2942.JPG" /></a>

    Check out that marbling!
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    Proof I didn't shuttle.
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    The last (and first) view.
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    Hey thanks, couple of questions:
    1) Name of that trail?
    2) 187...not sure what that means, been years since I used any on-bike electronics, is that your heart rate?
    3) What exactly is a "shuttle"?
    4) Nice pic's...do you always carry the stuffed toy with you?...it's...well...different... :-) (this guy really needs a riding buddy)

    Too bad about the jackies who didn't yield...maybe they are used to the trail being empty too and you caught them by surprise. Nice looking Raleigh, very clean SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canyonrat
    Hey thanks, couple of questions:
    1) Name of that trail?
    2) 187...not sure what that means, been years since I used any on-bike electronics, is that your heart rate?
    3) What exactly is a "shuttle"?
    4) Nice pic's...do you always carry the stuffed toy with you?...it's...well...different... :-) (this guy really needs a riding buddy)

    Too bad about the jackies who didn't yield...maybe they are used to the trail being empty too and you caught them by surprise. Nice looking Raleigh, very clean SS.
    1) Name of the trail...well...its kinda one of those "secret" places.
    2) Yep, heart rate.
    3) Shuttle: Driving to the top and riding down or vice versa.
    4) Yep, Beaker's been all over the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogdude222
    Check out that marbling!
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/YummyRide/photo#5206546160352447698"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEFeJbp7TNI/AAAAAAAABEk/qr0_sleoMao/s800/DSCN2947.JPG" /></a>
    Yeah but, did you roll it?

    Awesome post, great pictures and Beaker is killer

    Ed (stuck in the office on a Saturday )

    P.S. the inconsiderate rider bit sort of ruins the flow of an otherwise stellar post, sh!t happens.

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    Great pictures! That looks like a fun trail--don't feel bad about not sharing it here.

    BTW, I love Beaker!

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    Ah,,,a secret, Must be why it is growing over. I guess you can't have it both ways.

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    Very cool pic's but the Beaker and friends was to funny.Looks like you had fun.

    Thanks for sharing

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    Quote Originally Posted by edemtbs
    Yeah but, did you roll it?

    Awesome post, great pictures and Beaker is killer

    Ed (stuck in the office on a Saturday )

    P.S. the inconsiderate rider bit sort of ruins the flow of an otherwise stellar post, sh!t happens.
    Sorry to hear you're stuck in the office! The picture is very deceiving. My tire is actually butted up against it like a big boulder. You could probably ride it, but you wouldn't go anywhere, and you'd risk scratching up the beauty for everyone else.

    Yeah...I know...not good for the flow, but hey...if people are allowed to call me a DB, can't I complain just a little?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogdude222
    You could probably ride it, but you wouldn't go anywhere, and you'd risk scratching up the beauty for everyone else.

    Yeah...I know...not good for the flow, but hey...if people are allowed to call me a DB, can't I complain just a little?
    I was joking about rolling it and good point about possibly marking it up. It's a beautiful shot.

    Oh that's right, I completely forgot you're a DB! Forgive me, I get the flow now....

    Still, one of the best FR forum mountain bike passion posts I've seen in a loooooong time

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    Ed...just for you...here are some more (well, a lot more) Beaker shots:

    Beaker overlooking Skyline Drive in Chicago:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206634666743516434"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGupLp7TRI/AAAAAAAABFk/UgPwhl0X1Dg/s800/PICT1231.JPG" /></a>

    Beaker on his first cross country drive:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206634701103254818"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGurLp7TSI/AAAAAAAABFs/yUEXp8F5zs4/s800/PICT1294.JPG" /></a>

    Beaker riding the Schuykill River Trail in Philadelphia:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206634722578091314"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGusbp7TTI/AAAAAAAABF0/LT4NNwq6eGg/s800/PICT1537.JPG" /></a>

    Beaker on Gobbler's Knob, home of Punxsutawney Phil:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206634791297568082"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGuwbp7TVI/AAAAAAAABGE/8JyiifPPI5M/s800/PICT1682.JPG" /></a>

    Beaker on Nantucket:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206634817067371874"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGux7p7TWI/AAAAAAAABGM/NWbF39Mn9DY/s800/PICT1822.JPG" /></a>

    Beaker with Poppy (gramps) in Vero Beach, Florida:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206634872901946754"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGu1Lp7TYI/AAAAAAAABGg/0YRcisJpNQA/s800/DSCN1036.JPG" /></a>

    Beaker doing a little boating in Vero Beach:
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    Joe's Stone Crab in Miami Beach, FLA:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206634842837175666"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGuzbp7TXI/AAAAAAAABGU/0GhMdXFAVU8/s800/DSCN1012.JPG" /></a>

    Beaker in his 18th story South Beach condo:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206634928736521634"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGu4bp7TaI/AAAAAAAABGw/gsVMaXfyF3c/s800/IMG_2402.jpg" /></a>

    Another cross country adventure:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206635006045933010"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGu87p7TdI/AAAAAAAABHI/jk5JG7-WHMs/s800/DSCN0139.JPG" /></a>

    St. Louis Arch:
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    In the Arch:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206635048995606002"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGu_bp7TfI/AAAAAAAABHY/id01B0c5lpg/s800/DSCN0273.JPG" /></a>

    Indian Peaks Wilderness with J-man:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206634752642862402"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGuuLp7TUI/AAAAAAAABF8/7xrWtKP8Pn0/s800/PICT1567.JPG" /></a>

    Sangre de Cristo's:
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    Beaker's pal Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on J-man in the Sangre's:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206635160664755746"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGvF7p7TiI/AAAAAAAABHw/0rjoBhvbUhc/s800/IMG_1175.JPG" /></a>

    Beaker crossing the mighty Columbia River in Astoria, OR:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206635186434559538"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGvHbp7TjI/AAAAAAAABH4/9UWlqYev0No/s800/DSCN0881.JPG" /></a>

    Beaker with the Rosetta Stone:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206635212204363330"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGvI7p7TkI/AAAAAAAABIA/wsbrtmmLnP0/s800/DSCN1074.JPG" /></a>

    Beaker in London:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206635242269134418"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGvKrp7TlI/AAAAAAAABII/Y1yLTUSlDs0/s800/DSCN1090.JPG" /></a>

    Big Ben:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206635268038938210"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGvMLp7TmI/AAAAAAAABIQ/ca24XlQFmUQ/s800/DSCN1095.JPG" /></a>

    With a guard at the Tower of London:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206635293808742002"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGvNrp7TnI/AAAAAAAABIY/osYf2_WghdE/s800/DSCN1335.JPG" /></a>

    Using the "toilet" at the Tower of London:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206635323873513090"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGvPbp7ToI/AAAAAAAABIg/pSogFqH0maY/s800/DSCN1337.JPG" /></a>

    Beaker at the westernmost point in Europe near Dingle, Ireland:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206635349643316882"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGvQ7p7TpI/AAAAAAAABIs/MA3-2-BfyJg/s800/DSCN1889.JPG" /></a>

    Beaker at Normandy:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206635375413120674"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGvSbp7TqI/AAAAAAAABI0/qHnhROf1JAc/s800/DSCN2087.JPG" /></a>

    But even with all the places he's been, Beaker still loves it here in Colorado:
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/BeakerSTravels/photo#5206640099877146290"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SEGzlbp7TrI/AAAAAAAABJs/ffWEwkSvwX8/s800/DSCN2764.JPG" /></a>

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    Awesome, just awesome. Beaker was my favorite character and as time has gone by I have forgotten him. Thanks for that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kchri
    Awesome, just awesome. Beaker was my favorite character and as time has gone by I have forgotten him. Thanks for that...
    I know...he's the sh#t.

    Meep, meep. Nuf' said.

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    Nice....I know that trail; thinking of riding it tomorrow. Did you shuttle or climb back out? I have done it as a shuttle, but wondering what the climb out is like?

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    Nice pictures...thanks for taking the time to share. Putting Beaker in...well that's just plain a clever way to make all of those shots much more interesting. Thanks!

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    how 'bout a little hint doggy?

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    DejŠ Vu

    I think I have the same picture...



    Yup, in the archives from a couple of years ago. I love the old shack too. Gotta get back there with the camera. Great traveling pix BTW. Looks like Beaker gets around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nOOby
    how 'bout a little hint doggy?
    Seriously? I'm not real familiar with the area, but there is a ridicuously distinguishable feature that screams out from one of the pictures.

    Took me about 10 minutes to find out all the details about this "secret" trail.

    I've never understood people posting pictures of "secret" trails here. Yeah I know we are all MTBers, but if you truly want to keep it alive then ride it and don't say a word. If you do post pics, then I'd suggest not showing any landmarks that can be easily identified.

    However, they are some cool pics, looks like a nice trail and I did enjoy the Beaker pics.

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    nevermind, I think I figured it out... with the help of my wife I guess she had some friends who grow up around there.

    Ironically I had lunch with the inlaws just west of that area today, if it's the place I think it is.
    Last edited by nOOby; 05-31-2008 at 08:34 PM.

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    man, how awesome is -------- ------?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogdude222
    Yesterday, though, I ran into 4 bikers, only one of whom even attempted to yield while I was climbing. And even he was going to fast to do anything of consequence.

    But nothing happened ...

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    Still stumped..

    Ok, i still can't figure out where this is..... how about a little hint?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Dook
    Ok, i still can't figure out where this is..... how about a little hint?
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    Very nice. Sure would be nice to ride someday.........like sometime around the fourth of july.... for a nice older gentleman and his lovely bride from out of state....I wouldn't tell a soul really, cross my heart and, well you know the rest.
    Ride the bike.

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    its not the secret DH course that the not so popular reporter outed last week


    Quote Originally Posted by Da Dook
    how about a little hint?

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    i love the Beaker puppet

    Fricking awesome! Because there was a shot of LSD with beaker made me a little home sick. I miss some of the food nothing else. Is anyone else from the greater Chi Town area?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nOOby
    its not the secret DH course that the not so popular reporter outed last week
    After careful research I have concluded that it IS NOT inside sheriff Jim Alderden's horse trailer. I thought maybe the people who "scratched and gouged" his horse trailer were just trying to get in to ride some awesome singletrack.

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    nOOb-

    If you want specific directions, PM me.

    To Everyone Else-

    Thanks for the awesome response on the pics.

    Not trying to keep it a secret. In fact, I'd love to see the trail more worn in. I just don't want to broadcast it to the entire earth.

    -Dog

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    Super cool pics, that little dude has been more places than I'll ever get too! my vote defiantely keep it a secret it is best done has a huge loop via lr and back to......If you ride enough you'll find that old cabin, cool inside too!!
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    Excellent pics Dogdude222. I love Beaker... muppets rule! You'll have to take me on that ride some time!

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    Can't be a part of this craziness anymore..especially when I did not even realize I used the word "totally" like a teeny bopper. Hillarious is what this turned into which is a shame because:..still, like I said in my post below, the travel pics were great. I grew up overseas so I enjoyed seeing those places again--as a kid I got to crawl through all those Normandy bunkers with my brother and run up and down the huge craters left in the earth from the shelling (now too bad we did not have our bmx bikes with us!). But, nothing will ever shock me as much as seeing those cliffs and the men that had to scale them. Hey look, we both started posting in 2005! Okay, that was random.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogdude222
    Yesterday, though, I ran into 4 bikers, only one of whom even attempted to yield while I was climbing. And even he was going to fast to do anything of consequence.
    I'm betting the one who attempted to yield was sideways for about 10 feet, black bike, white helmet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DWF
    I'm betting the one who attempted to yield was sideways for about 10 feet, black bike, white helmet.
    Honestly, I can't remember. I was in a SS-induced haze. He did say, "sorry!" That's all that I care about. I've done the same thing before. Sometimes you just aren't expecting to stop, and that's all you can do.

    He was with another rider, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VAhardtail
    I agree.....its not a secret anymore now and these photos totally give it away. Bummer. This pretty much is broadcasting it to the entire earth though cause now someone will go map it and then post it and then write up a description. But hey, its bound to happen somehow. all you need is beaker up on the divide in a lightning storm now to complete the picture set--that should put him right in line with his normal follies! Those travel pics from all over are great. Okay, back to grazing the topos for more single track.
    Come on...totally give it away? Not really. Most front rangers I meet aren't even familiar with the landmarks you guys think are stupid obvious.

    Part of the point of this post is to generate a bit more traffic there soon (i.e. during this wet spring). I don't want those lower loops to grow over. The trail is nearly invisible at points!

    There's probably nothing you could do on this forum that wouldn't generate some heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edemtbs
    Yeah but, did you roll it?

    Awesome post, great pictures and Beaker is killer

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    P.S. the inconsiderate rider bit sort of ruins the flow of an otherwise stellar post, sh!t happens.
    Dude, that sucks. Was in Salida and borrowed a bike from a new friend (old friend of yours), Scott.
    When I told him we worked together, his comment was "my condolences", I don't think he realized I didn't have to live near you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogdude222
    Honestly, I can't remember. I was in a SS-induced haze. He did say, "sorry!" That's all that I care about. I've done the same thing before. Sometimes you just aren't expecting to stop, and that's all you can do.

    He was with another rider, though.
    Yeah, that was me. There were 3 of us, one in front of me, one behind. Where we crossed paths was a bad spot. Even attempting to yield had me near crashing. Thankfully the trail was wide there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DWF
    Yeah, that was me. There were 3 of us, one in front of me, one behind. Where we crossed paths was a bad spot. Even attempting to yield had me near crashing. Thankfully the trail was wide there.
    Why was the dude behind you not sporting a helmet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogdude222
    Why was the dude behind you not sporting a helmet?
    Must of been your haze. We were all three wearing helmets.
    A man must have enemies and places he is not welcome. In the end we are not only defined by our friends but those against us.

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    I used to live in the area pictured and I'm still having hard time figuring it out exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogdude222
    The thing that always gets me, though, is that I never see anyone there. Yesterday, though, I ran into 4 bikers, only one of whom even attempted to yield while I was climbing. And even he was going to fast to do anything of consequence.
    Whoops - one of those @ssh0les who didn't yield was likely me. My apologies if this was the case, I wouldn't do it intentionally.

    FWIW - Canyonrat is correct, the two (of our group of three) that have ridden the trail before are not used to encountering traffic *at all* on the trail.

    I was surprised to see people as well, I've been riding the spot for a few years and haven't seen more than a dozen people during that time. It's too bad Austin is so far away, otherwise I'd ride it all the time


    Great pics, thanks.
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    Great pics! Beeker looks to be having a lot of fun too! Some of my friends used to do the same thing with a Mr. Potato Head. Good times

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    Easy find!

    You will be seeing me at this location if the trails are as good as they look. Thanks for the clues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogdude222
    nOOb-

    If you want specific directions, PM me.

    To Everyone Else-

    Thanks for the awesome response on the pics.

    Not trying to keep it a secret. In fact, I'd love to see the trail more worn in. I just don't want to broadcast it to the entire earth.

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    Not that I want you to tell, but realisticly only about 10-15% of Front Strange bikers look here, so you wouldn't be really broadcasting it to the entire earth.

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    This is one of my favorite Front Range rides because its an amazing downhill that has numerous variations onto a more well-know Front Range ride...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rontele
    This is one of my favorite Front Range rides because its an amazing downhill that has numerous variations onto a more well-know Front Range ride...

    Wow that is a statement......are you a lawyer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steadyflow
    Wow that is a statement......are you a lawyer?
    No, I just play one on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla
    It's too bad Austin is so far away, otherwise I'd ride it all the time
    I just booked a flight to Texas. Now someone give me directions!

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    Great TR and even better Beaker pics. For once we got to see him without watching him get blown up in the lab!

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    Quote Originally Posted by teleken
    Great TR and even better Beaker pics. For once we got to see him without watching him get blown up in the lab!
    Yeah, but his expression is still pretty much the same...frazzled at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdub
    Seriously? I'm not real familiar with the area, but there is a ridicuously distinguishable feature that screams out from one of the pictures.

    Took me about 10 minutes to find out all the details about this "secret" trail.
    Jdub-

    It must not be as easy to figure out as you claim. I've gotten PM's from 14 people in the past 2 days asking for hints and more info.

    To those with whom I shared the goodness-

    Do me a favor, introduce yourself if you recognize my bike out on the trail!

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    That trail is best done on a hard tail and in the big ring for the down hill.

    I like trails that have the fun first and the pain later.

    Interesting hike a bike off the lower loops.
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    Honestly, I don't know what the big secret is. This trail is very well marked from another very well known front range ride. The problem is that the trail dumps you out at the tail end of a ring and you either need to pedal back uphill, pedal downhill through some neighborhoods towards the lockheed martin plant, or have a car waiting.

    i also don't get why the OP is being so secretive regarding a non-social trail on both forest service and douglas county open space.
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    secret empty trail?
    gmafb

    tons of people ride it and its no secret

    i also find it interesting that you've been involved in another posted incident with trail etiquette dd222.

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    I'm freakin' clueless. Looks like Rox park in the background and the shot is from the south. This may take a while. Nothing on Doug county OS site. I'll keep digging. Dig it.
    WTF

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    Never mind... just figured it out.
    WTF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogdude222
    Yeah, but his expression is still pretty much the same...frazzled at best.
    Unbelievable!

    Here's a suggestion dd222, next time post it as a "Guess This Trail" thread and you'll be golden. Everyone likes that game, they won't be frazzled and you won't get any cr@p for keeping secret/exposing that "secret" trail.

    Too funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rontele
    Honestly, I don't know what the big secret is. This trail is very well marked from another very well known front range ride. The problem is that the trail dumps you out at the tail end of a ring and you either need to pedal back uphill, pedal downhill through some neighborhoods towards the lockheed martin plant, or have a car waiting.

    i also don't get why the OP is being so secretive regarding a non-social trail on both forest service and douglas county open space.

    I agree, what's the big deal anyways. Even if it the section is revealed it's not like people are gonna start flocking to it. I used to ride from my house doing the 6 mile fire road and the whole loop was good enough without having to add this section. Once you break off from the main loop and finish the singletrack through the woods that's it. The drop down to the park has nice scenery, but isn't even worth with the crappy climbing you have to do to get back to the main loop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pechelman
    i also find it interesting that you've been involved in another posted incident with trail etiquette dd222.
    What is there to find interesting? What does that have to do with anything here? Did I not yield to you and your friends? Have you read the whole thread? Its already been discussed, and I already said, "He did say, "sorry!" That's all that I care about. I've done the same thing before. Sometimes you just aren't expecting to stop, and that's all you can do."

    Look Pechelman. I apologized for what happened when it wasn't necessarily warranted because I felt bad that your feelings were hurt. The bottom line is that there was attitude from both sides. When Spike pulled up and said Hi, he got no response from 10 or more people. I said, "Thank you" when I passed. Again, I apologized because I felt horrible that you guys were upset, not because I necessarily did anything wrong. Please don't come back and bash me again. I consider myself to be a model of friendly trail etiquette. I'd say most people who've ridden with me would agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogdude222
    What is there to find interesting? What does that have to do with anything here? Did I not yield to you and your friends? Have you read the whole thread? Its already been discussed, and I already said, "He did say, "sorry!" That's all that I care about. I've done the same thing before. Sometimes you just aren't expecting to stop, and that's all you can do."

    Look Pechelman. I apologized for what happened when it wasn't necessarily warranted because I felt bad that your feelings were hurt. The bottom line is that there was attitude from both sides. When Spike pulled up and said Hi, he got no response from 10 or more people. I said, "Thank you" when I passed. Again, I apologized because I felt horrible that you guys were upset, not because I necessarily did anything wrong. Please don't come back and bash me again. I consider myself to be a model of friendly trail etiquette. I'd say most people who've ridden with me would agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edemtbs
    Unbelievable!

    Here's a suggestion dd222, next time post it as a "Guess This Trail" thread and you'll be golden. Everyone likes that game, they won't be frazzled and you won't get any cr@p for keeping secret/exposing that "secret" trail.

    Too funny

    Ed
    I know...chill out you guys. I never said the trail was hidden on the moon or anything. Other riders have acknowledged that they rarely see others there.

    How have you guys managed to turn a lighthearted post with over 20 pictures of a stuffed muppet into a b*tchfest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rontele
    Come on Rontele...don't come on here with pechelman bashing my genuine passion thread and then attack me for defending myself. Not cool.

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    I ain't bashing you, dude. Just some light hearted internet humor. I don't know why pechelman posted what he did in the first place.

    I liked the Beeker stoke, I didn't like the subterfuge "look at me, I ride trail that nobody else rides, but I'm not going to post the name of it because I like the internet cache of riding trails nobody else does."

    You're a good person, you made nice after our last encounter, and I hope we can ride the "empty trail" in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rontele
    I ain't bashing you, dude. Just some light hearted internet humor. I don't know why pechelman posted what he did in the first place.

    I liked the Beeker stoke, I didn't like the subterfuge "look at me, I ride trail that nobody else rides, but I'm not going to post the name of it because I like the internet cache of riding trails nobody else does."

    You're a good person, you made nice after our last encounter, and I hope we can ride the "empty trail" in the future.
    Thanks for clearing things up. I'm hardly keeping it a secret. I've sent out over 20 PM's with very specific directions and maps. I just don't want to post it up on the WWW.

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    So many comments that could be made here. Will only say I am mildly annoyed that I spent the time searching for the identity of this trail only to find out it has been on my "to ride" list since I saw it on a map 2 years ago.
    On the other hand maybe this will provoke me to actually go out and ride it instead of just "planning to ride it someday".

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    y'all don't need to worry about me invading this trail anytime soon. Heck it took me like 1.5 years to get down and over to jeffco trails.


    Maybe when I get a fuel cell car.

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    i hit this trail last night. Had alot of fun, although the climb back up to my car was long and uneventful. Did see some really pretty flowers. It was a prety fun ride although I would have preferred some more technical sections. Very tempting to go really really fast until you look ahead and yell out "OH DAMN THERES A SHARP TURN!!" I saw exactly 2 other people on the trail. Thankfully they were stopped to warn me of a rattlesnake right off the side of the trail.

    A little bit up the first singletrack climb:


    Heading through some rollercoasters:


    The rattler


    Coming ack up this was not so fun:


    All my flower pictures turned out blurry so Im not uploading those:


    Towards the end, got some great views:

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    Glad you showed up, I was going to have you stay with my buddy if he stirred up that snake enough to bite him. Rocks, not sticks!

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    [QUOTE=sooner518]All my flower pictures turned out blurry so Im not uploading those:


    Whenever I pass that house, it always reminds of those old school horror movies where they find that one lone house deep in the woods.

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    I live very close by (Rox Park) and am wondering how most people are accessing the trail. From the main trailhead off the longer ST loop, Trailhead before the 6 mile dirt road or through Rox? I've not ridden this yet as it's marked off limits when approaching via Rox, so is it OK to ride it from the main trail back to the road (I assume this section is off limits in both directions).

    I may give it a whirl over the weekend, just wondering if it makes for a quick evening jaunt. If the this connector is closed both directions, any guess on how long this stretch is (~1/3 mi?) Might be worth treating as CX training. ;-)

    Thanks!

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    people who post their favorite trails on the internet are complete and total idiots. i will never understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungryhead
    people who post their favorite trails on the internet are complete and total idiots. i will never understand it.
    Teocalli Ridge is one of my favorites...


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    Don't forget the 401, Deer Creek (CB), Reno-Flag-Bear-Deadmans and the Dyle. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by batty
    Don't forget the 401, Deer Creek (CB), Reno-Flag-Bear-Deadmans and the Dyle. ;-)
    OMG! You've given away the goods!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungryhead
    people who post their favorite trails on the internet are complete and total idiots. i will never understand it.


    Every trail is secret.
    Every trail is great.
    If a trail is talked about,
    God gets quite irate.

    Every trail is wanted.
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    Every trail is needed
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    Quote Originally Posted by hungryhead
    people who post their favorite trails on the internet are complete and total idiots. i will never understand it.
    Either the above quote is some kind of joke, or you are calling yourself a complete and total idiot.
    See link:
    http://forums.mtbr.com/member.php?u=324296
    What exactly is it about Kenosha Pass that makes it your favorite trail hungryhead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by batty
    I live very close by (Rox Park) and am wondering how most people are accessing the trail. From the main trailhead off the longer ST loop, Trailhead before the 6 mile dirt road or through Rox? I've not ridden this yet as it's marked off limits when approaching via Rox, so is it OK to ride it from the main trail back to the road (I assume this section is off limits in both directions).

    I may give it a whirl over the weekend, just wondering if it makes for a quick evening jaunt. If the this connector is closed both directions, any guess on how long this stretch is (~1/3 mi?) Might be worth treating as CX training. ;-)

    Thanks!

    yeah, "technically" its closed to bikes, but we always ride it.

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    Dammit, I want to ride someone's secret trail. Beaker has really been around. Maybe CB the weekend after July 4th? July 4th- Keystone Gulch? That should get me ready for SSV/Sourdough/etc.

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    Thanks to DogDude222 for waking me up to a trail in my backyard! Rode it this AM and LOVED every minute of it. Not sure why some are complaining about the return climb, I didn't think it was bad at all. Not trying to pump myself up here, but I just rode a moderate tempo and it was ~50 min to complete the return.

    It does appear that folks are poaching a hikers only section to avoid the return trip ... which is frankly better than poaching and riding up the road - IMHO.

    CB should be awesome this week!

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    Speaking of empty trails... Matterhorn was ridden on Sunday without seeing a SINGLE other rider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooner518
    All my flower pictures turned out blurry so Im not uploading those:
    [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/sooner518/IMG_9362.jpg[/IMG

    Whenever I pass that house, it always reminds of those old school horror movies where they find that one lone house deep in the woods.
    Same here. I was toying with the idea of walking into the house then got a little weirded out and decided against it.

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    Not to feed the fire even more, but from a couple of weeks ago...

    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/RingtailWSpencerAndKate61408/photo#5211898793035450754"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SFRiVqQqSYI/AAAAAAAABME/C9jTf3NvlwY/s800/DSCN3019.JPG" /></a>

    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/RingtailWSpencerAndKate61408/photo#5211898901905415810"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SFRib_1SHoI/AAAAAAAABMU/Vjmu3P3FkNE/s800/DSCN3023.JPG" /></a>

    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/RingtailWSpencerAndKate61408/photo#5211898919346688050"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SFRidAzm0DI/AAAAAAAABMY/9Rt0snvAe4w/s800/DSCN3025.JPG" /></a>

    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/RingtailWSpencerAndKate61408/photo#5211899026975044050"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SFRijRwNMdI/AAAAAAAABMo/BDBOneeQ5_0/s800/DSCN3037.JPG" /></a>

    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/benjamin.grass/RingtailWSpencerAndKate61408/photo#5211899139211487090"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/benjamin.grass/SFRipz3dZ3I/AAAAAAAABM4/N3SgD_X4eII/s800/DSCN3043.JPG" /></a>

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