"7 million acres (or 11,000 square miles) of land in the southeast corner of Colorado, and 60 million acres of air space (or 94,000 square miles) over Colorado and New Mexico would be given over to special forces testing and training in the use of remote-controlled flying murder machines. The full state of Colorado is itself 104,000 square miles. Rhode Island is 1,000 square miles. Virginia, where I live, is 43,000 square miles.
The U.S. military (including Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines) is proceeding with this plan in violation of the public will, new state legislation on private property rights, an exceptionally strong federal court order, and a funding ban passed by the United States Congress, and in the absence of any approved Environmental Impact Statement."
"Ken Salazar was the military's hired servant. He had been Attorney General of Colorado from 1999 to 2005. He was a U.S. Senator from 2005 to 2009. President Barack Obama has made him Secretary of the Interior. Around 2007, Jean Aguerre recounts, Salazar held a public meeting in Pueblo, Col., with about 300 ranchers packing the room. He turned his palms up to the ceiling and announced: "I will lift the golden curtain that falls at the end of El Paso county so that prosperity can flow onto the eastern plains." This meant that military spending was economically beneficial. Military expansion, people were being told, was good for them -- even if it stole their families' land, and regardless of what momentum it created for the launching and continuing of wars.
"Instead of putting together frameworks for nonproliferation," says Aguerre, "Ken Salazar worked to destroy the last intact short grass prairie because the money was too good."
Did you get that article from the nutjobs protesting across from the Costco in Arvada today? Even Liburatards aren't against using drones. Must be some kind of Ron Paul cult.
Edit: I saw them after I exercised my 2nd amendment right at the Silver Bullet Shooting Range in Wheat Ridge.
Did you get that article from the nutjobs protesting across from the Costco in Arvada today? Even Liburatards aren't against using drones. Must be some kind of Ron Paul cult.
Edit: I saw them after I exercised my 2nd amendment right at the Silver Bullet Shooting Range in Wheat Ridge.
Well, going to the shooting range is one thing, taking a life is quite another.
If you can get past the rhetoric you will find that the government is illegally confiscating private land through condemnation. Maybe your grandma's house is next?
I remember dove hunting when I was young. I was always taught to give animals a sporting chance. They had to be flying. Shooting a bird sitting in a tree, on a power line, on the ground, is something I have never done, nor something I wish to advocate, no matter the prize.
why do they need 7 million acres of land, when the drones fly through the air? are they afraid of the ramifications of the 1 in a something-billion chance that a drone crashes into someone's farmhouse? or they want to bomb all 7 million acres with drones?
military planes fly training routes and have dedicated mid-high altitude airspace over civilian areas all over this country, including colorado. why do drones need land set aside from uav only use? why not just dedicate the airspace from 50ft agl to 10,000ft agl to drones, set aside already acquired land for bombing/missile practice, and call it good?
why do they need 7 million acres of land, when the drones fly through the air? are they afraid of the ramifications of the 1 in a something-billion chance that a drone crashes into someone's farmhouse? or they want to bomb all 7 million acres with drones?
military planes fly training routes and have dedicated mid-high altitude airspace over civilian areas all over this country, including colorado. why do drones need land set aside from uav only use? why not just dedicate the airspace from 50ft agl to 10,000ft agl to drones, set aside already acquired land for bombing/missile practice, and call it good?
"At an estimated cost to taxpayers of $3 billion dollars, The Pentagon and its contractors also
announced plans to train a new Combat Aviation Brigade – 2800 soldiers, 600 ground
vehicles and 200 Apache, Chinook and Black Hawk helicopters – at the Piñon Canyon
Maneuver Site. If not stopped, Combat Aviation Brigades will enable Unmanned Aerial Systems
(drones and other robotic weapons) to maneuver from the ground up throughout the entire 94,000
square mile region.
The proposal is part of a plan to establish the largest Joint Forces Future Combat Systems
training site in the world by expanding Joint Forces Special Operations Command air space
across northern New Mexico and southern Colorado for robotic warfare development,
low altitude flights and testing of high-tech lethal weaponry. "
I'm confused too. What does it mean that "acres of air space" will be "given over"? Why in the world do they need that much area to test these things? Why is the Santa Fe Trail on the map?
Well, going to the shooting range is one thing, taking a life is quite another.
If you can get past the rhetoric you will find that the government is illegally confiscating private land through condemnation. Maybe your grandma's house is next?
I remember dove hunting when I was young. I was always taught to give animals a sporting chance. They had to be flying. Shooting a bird sitting in a tree, on a power line, on the ground, is something I have never done, nor something I wish to advocate, no matter the prize.
Sadly, you might even find out your uncle is a wacko.
I'm all ears. Why am I crazy?
Because I believe Salazar and Udall are hypocrites for proposing wilderness area after wilderness area and banning simple bicycles from these areas, and then turning around and stealing private property for expansion of a military base to drive tanks and perform low altitude aerial maneuvers?
and here: The War Next Door - Page 1 - News - Denver - Westword
""The most surprising thing is how intact the larger landscape is," says CSU ecologist Rondeau. "The ranchers have been actively managing it. It's really a credit to the private landowners that we found as much as we did, and most of it was in pretty good condition. They're good stewards of the land."
Ever been to Ft. Hood? It's not far from where I grew up. If that what stewardship is to the government, then I'm not the one who's crazy.
Because I believe Salazar and Udall are hypocrites for proposing wilderness area after wilderness area and banning simple bicycles from these areas, and then turning around and stealing private property for expansion of a military base to drive tanks and perform low altitude aerial maneuvers?
and here: The War Next Door - Page 1 - News - Denver - Westword
""The most surprising thing is how intact the larger landscape is," says CSU ecologist Rondeau. "The ranchers have been actively managing it. It's really a credit to the private landowners that we found as much as we did, and most of it was in pretty good condition. They're good stewards of the land."
Ever been to Ft. Hood? It's not far from where I grew up. If that what stewardship is to the government, then I'm not the one who's crazy.
Notice how all the "wilderness" areas are in the scenic mountains and not on the plains? When, in fact, one acre of prairie has at least a magnitude greater amount of biodiversity than an acre of forest.
Also, if you have never seen the Purgatoiree River Canyon, you're missing out. It's too bad the military gets to destroy all that natural prairie land.
As a pilot, these things are scary for other reasons too. Most importantly, the ever important "see and avoid" concept. Don't trust these things any further than I can toss them. And don't say technology works, because I see it fail day in and day out.
As for the other issues here, I'd have to read into it more to get a better idea on what to think.
I don't like seeing this either, but the article doesn't give any project start dates for this nightmare. Hopefully it won't get off the ground.
This just continues to show Eisenhower warnings seem to be more and more justified.
"We must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."
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