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    New question here. DH/FR biker looking to relocate. Need some advice.

    Hello, there! My name is Peyton, and I currently live in East Texas.

    East Texas? Right... It's not known for much, and definitely not for mountain biking.

    Over the past few years, mountain biking (specifically downhill and freeride) has become my passionate hobby. I have a Bachelor's degree, work a mundane job unrelated to my degree, and I'm tired of the Texas heat and terrain. I'd love to move to Colorado or New Mexico and live in or very close to mountain towns where I could ride multiple times a week, or at least every weekend, and a place where my future wife could focus on her photography (sports, action, people, & such).

    Beside mountain biking, my main passion, life's endeavor, and educational background is Christian youth ministry.

    If you know of any opportunities regarding this type of work/ministry in an area where dh/fr biking is available, would you please reply or private message the information to me? I'd be incredibly grateful.

    This is an odd post, I know, but thanks for reading. You may not agree with the type of work I would like to do or my beliefs, but hopefully you can respect my love to ride.

    Thanks again.

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    How'd you get such a bug up your butt for downhill in East Texas? Is it something you've wanted to do but haven't yet and figure The Front Range is the place?

    As far as your religious beliefs, I never read anything on this forum in regards to that so good luck finding out what you're looking for here.
    So it seems to me to be, this thing that I think I see.

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    I've always been into freestyle bmx, but I bought a mountain bike a few years ago and it changed my life. I love all types of riding, but I most enjoy high speed descents with jumps and drops and room for creativity. I have the bug because there are local trails that have given me a taste of it. They are short, but I hike up and ride down dozens of times a day. Also, I highly enjoy snowboarding and am a very capable rider.

    Basically, I love the mountains and always feel more "at home" there than I do here. I've thought about it for years, but the pull to a range is becoming stronger daily.

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    I hear California is nice.

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    Utah.

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    Colorado Springs is home to 38 national religous organizations (or at least that's the rumor), and we have a church on almost every corner so I can pretty much guarantee that you will find religion here. The riding isn't bad either, but it is an extra hour + to get to the resorts from here vs. living in Denver.

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    I'm bored and at work or else I would be riding

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    Can't beat East Texas! Palestine, Carthage, Livingston, Lufkin, Nacadoches, Longview, Woodville, Jasper, etc. I travel to all those crap ass places

    No hills, no beer selection, no culture, dry counties, no scenery, bla.

    But if you're into religion, you can't beat East Texas!

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    In my opinion you will likely have an easier time finding ministry work in a larger area such as the Denver area or Colorado Springs rather then a resort town. I say this because with more people, odds are greater you would find a ministry to your liking. However, and I mean this in a neutral non-confrontational way (I am not looking to start a controversy I think I'm just being realistic), in the Denver area we have some major issues with hikers which flare up when riders focus on descending fast in a free ride fashion in areas where hikers frequent. This also causes a lot of angst amongst various groups within the mountain bike community in Denver. In my opinion, if you are open to governing your speed and aggressiveness when you ride trails frequented by hikers in the Denver area you could enjoy living in the Denver area. In that case I would recommend periodic trips to the resorts for more aggressive riding. However, if you are very adamant about riding aggressively, Denver may not be a satisfying choice for you.

    To really give you more useful information, in my opinion, it would help to know more about what type of career you are involved with and at what stage you are in your career.

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    Yes, as mentioned I think we need more info. - on the riding front and the youth ministry front.

    Riding - are you good with mostly xc type riding on crowded trails during the week, and/or bike parks? And then hitting the hills for the DH/FR type stuff on weekends?
    If you are located on the west side of the Denver Metro, the goods in the hills are anwhere from 1/2 hour to 1.5 hours, + away.
    But in most of our opinions, the front range is a great place to live for riding.

    Youth ministry - tell us more.
    You may check into:
    Young Life - PM me if you don't know about it - I can put you in contact with a couple people.
    YWAM - They have something in Arvada, and I believe up by Golden Gate State Park.
    Obviously many churches to check if you are talking about being a youth pastor at a church.
    I believe someone on here is involved with a Christian MTB group - maybe he will chime in if he has anything.

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    Here's a group of Christian riders in the Front Range area. I have never met any of these folks but they seem like some very good riders. Hat tip to them for consistently putting out great videos.

    Denver Front Range Mountain Biking « About « Denver BOMB « Believers On Mountain Bikes

    If you watch this video of them riding in the Front Range and think the speed and riding is lame, then the Front Range might not be a good fit for you. On the other hand, if you are stoked, this is a good sampling of what our area has to offer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Utah.
    That was my immediate thought also...biking, religion, ankle-biters...Utard!

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    Utah...plenty of opportunities to ride your Faith.

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    .......
    Gone are the days we stopped to decide,
    Where we should go,
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    Wow, thank you for all of the replies!

    Just a little more info- I'm a capable rider of all disciplines, and I respect hikers on shared trails. We enjoy the same place, whether on foot or on wheels. I have the most fun with high speed descents, but greatly value the meditative quality of XC in a beautiful place. Mountain biking is my therapy. I don't have to explain this, as I'm sure you wouldn't be reading this here if it weren't the same for you.
    I have family in CO Springs and now-passed family who were in Denver, and I fell in love with Taylor Valley, Breckenridge, Vail, and Mueller State Park. I also have friends in Longmont...
    I always felt more "at home" in mountains of CO- summer and winter. It's a place that encourages me to wake up earlier, be healthier, enjoy everything outdoors more, and be around more people who share the same passions. I've felt the pull there for a long time.

    As far as a career, I graduated with a Bachelor's in Christian Studies- Youth Ministry, and served a few years at a Methodist church before taking the county government position I have now. I attend a church now where I assist in leading worship, teach high school Sunday school, and volunteer with the youth group every week. Above mountain biking, it's what I look forward to every day. Nothing in this world is better than ministering/counseling with students and seeing them overcome all of the terrible stuff our culture is programming them to experience and be.

    Again, I appreciate your replies. I'm in this odd place where I'm praying/looking for a place where all of my passions come together. I know I'd be happier and more affective for myself and others as a youth pastor and mountain biker.

    I'm just feeling things out and honestly didn't know where to start- other than prayer and by talking to other riders. .It's not like you can search jobs by hobby area lol

    Thanks for the group reference and for any other advice that comes this way.

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    I'm not going to be the best person for networking with regarding your particular career path. I wonder if reaching out to the folks with Denver Bomb might be fruitful for you. Also, perhaps you can look into The Colorado Christian University.

    Colorado Christian University-A Private Christian College in Denver, Colorado

    It sounds like you are a bit younger and perhaps close to just out of college. This is good because now is the time for you to set down new roots. I can tell you from my relocation experiences that you may have to be flexible regarding your job situation in order to relocate where you want to be. Its possible that you may need to take a less then ideal job just to get the relocation done and make ends meet. Then once you are where you want to be, start searching, networking, and getting to know local people in conducting a local job search. If you are young, this makes it much more feasible to go through that process before you have kids and such. However, you may need to be flexible and make some sacrifices. Depending how it goes you may need to broaden your options to include other areas than Colorado and focus on whole regions you are interested in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2wheelsnotfour View Post
    I'm not going to be the best person for networking with regarding your particular career path. I wonder if reaching out to the folks with Denver Bomb might be fruitful for you. Also, perhaps you can look into The Colorado Christian University.

    Colorado Christian University-A Private Christian College in Denver, Colorado

    It sounds like you are a bit younger and perhaps close to just out of college. This is good because now is the time for you to set down new roots. I can tell you from my relocation experiences that you may have to be flexible regarding your job situation in order to relocate where you want to be. Its possible that you may need to take a less then ideal job just to get the relocation done and make ends meet. Then once you are where you want to be, start searching, networking, and getting to know local people in conducting a local job search. If you are young, this makes it much more feasible to go through that process before you have kids and such. However, you may need to be flexible and make some sacrifices. Depending how it goes you may need to broaden your options to include other areas than Colorado and focus on whole regions you are interested in.

    Great advice. Yeah, I'm almost 26 and now is definitely the time to do it. The young woman I'll be marrying is, of all things, a photography student and has a knack for action/sports photography (biking, football, kayaking, etc.)- stuff outside of the studio. My dream is for us to be in a place where I can minister and be around people of the same passion (BOMB is great!) and where she will have a wealth of subjects and opportunities.

    Again and again, I'm seriously grateful for the advice as we try to figure this whole thing out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarateChicken View Post
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    Yeah, lots of "heathen" mormans to convert there! Assuming you aren't a morman coming from east texas.

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    Just a warning: We have no crawfish or cajun food here. And most of the seafood isn't even fried.

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    Oh, I'm very much aware of this! That would be a great excuse to visit home Crawfish ettoufee is my favorite dish, after all.

    lol Funny that you would think of that

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    If you're into meth, extra-marital gay sex, and DH, Colorado Springs and the New Life Church is the place for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeytonP View Post
    Oh, I'm very much aware of this! That would be a great excuse to visit home Crawfish ettoufee is my favorite dish, after all.

    lol Funny that you would think of that
    That cajun food and seafood is about all I look forward to when I head down to East Texas.

    But we do have Pappadeaux's in Denver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggs View Post
    If you're into meth, extra-marital gay sex, and DH, Colorado Springs and the New Life Church is the place for you.
    As crazy as it might seem, I'd love to have that explained in a bit more detail

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    Hmmm, I don't know, but am guessing youth ministry work doesn't pay a lot ?? (honest question, I don't know). The thing is, Colorado and particularly resort towns are very expensive precisely because so many people want to live here for the same reasons. There are jobs that need doing (ex: janitorial, etc.) and jobs that people want to do (ex: photographer) and I have seen that many times, particularly in resort towns, there is not a lot of intersection in those two areas. It’s just a very competitive world is all I’m saying. I lived in a semi-resort town for 9 years and worked at a hotel to support myself. We had people new to town apply for front desk jobs who had PHD’s and people who had formerly owned their own businesses. Once coming out and hanging on economically for a few years many people would give up and go back home. It may be possible that you may be more “at home” in east Texas than you believe right now. Recreational opportunities, in themselves, do not make a place home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeytonP View Post
    As crazy as it might seem, I'd love to have that explained in a bit more detail
    One of the larger-than-life hypocrites of our time:
    meet Pastor Ted

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    <table border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="2" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" width="30%">Category</td><td>Children & Youth Programs Specialist</td> </tr> <tr><td valign="top" width="30%">Job Title</td><td>Full Time</td> </tr> <tr><td valign="top" width="30%">Job Description </td><td> Salary: $36,100 - $40,200 Annually
    Organization Name: Foothills Park & Recreation District
    Organization Location: Littleton, CO
    Organization Website or URL to Application: www.ifoothills.org/jobs
    Deadline to Apply - Date: June 8, 2012

    </td> </tr> <tr><td valign="top" width="30%">Contact Name</td><td> Wenonah Macdonald</td> </tr> <tr><td valign="top" width="30%">Contact Phone</td><td>3034092180</td></tr></tbody></table>

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeytonP View Post
    As crazy as it might seem, I'd love to have that explained in a bit more detail
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleTrail View Post
    <table border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="2" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" width="30%">Category</td><td>Children & Youth Programs Specialist</td> </tr> <tr><td valign="top" width="30%">Job Title</td><td>Full Time</td> </tr> <tr><td valign="top" width="30%">Job Description </td><td> Salary: $36,100 - $40,200 Annually
    Organization Name: Foothills Park & Recreation District
    Organization Location: Littleton, CO
    Organization Website or URL to Application: www.ifoothills.org/jobs
    Deadline to Apply - Date: June 8, 2012

    </td> </tr> <tr><td valign="top" width="30%">Contact Name</td><td> Wenonah Macdonald</td> </tr> <tr><td valign="top" width="30%">Contact Phone</td><td>3034092180</td></tr></tbody></table>
    Is proselytizing a job requirement? There's "working with youth" and there's "youth ministry".
    So it seems to me to be, this thing that I think I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquidmantis View Post
    Youth programs, programming youths. Tomayto, tomahto.
    You say "let us pray" I say "let's have dinner".
    So it seems to me to be, this thing that I think I see.

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    Youth programs, programming youths. Tomayto, tomahto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterZero View Post
    One of the larger-than-life hypocrites of our time:
    meet Pastor Ted
    Well, that's just incredibly tragic.

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    We have enough believers, but we could use some more thinkers.

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    Tragic probably really isn't the right word for that...

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    To be specific, I am university-trained and have experience working with students within a church setting, but I wouldn't mind branching out into camp settings. More time helping kids, less at a desk = better life in general.
    Tomato, tomah-to, working with youth, youth ministry... I just want to help kids lead a better life than what our culture is programming them to be.

    Also, I want to ride my bike in the mountains, with other people who are just as passionate about it as I am.

    Thank you for those listings, too! I'll see what those are all about.

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    I'm bored and at work or else I would be riding

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    I could be another faceless Bible thumper online, but I'm here and you're here because we love mountain biking.
    I very much enjoy contemplating the cosmic formation of the universe, geology, tech, physics, psychology, the wonders of endemic biology and all manners of scientific advancement. We live in a breathtakingly beautiful and complex world.
    I also claim to have a relationship with Jesus Christ.
    There does not have to be mutual exclusion.

    Anyway, I just want to get to CO and ride my bike with all of you. Thanks again for the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiPavement View Post
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    Ok that's just hilarious! lol

    We all know he would have biked around had they been available. AmIright?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Tragic probably really isn't the right word for that...
    I do remember this deal, now that I see his name. I could share my opinion, but....

    I'd rather just know where everyone loves to ride in CO and get there as soon as I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeytonP View Post
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    I'd rather just know where everyone loves to ride in CO and get there as soon as I can.
    That stuff has already been covered ad nauseum around here...

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    Science and religious belief are mutually exclusive, and to think otherwise requires a disturbing partition of the mind. Science is a search for answers, while religion denies us even the ability to search and instead asks us to rely on faith. For this reason, faith is one of societies largest obstacles to overcome.

    Faith requires constant reinforcement, while science doesn't care if you believe or not.







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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonvelocity View Post
    Science and religious belief are mutually exclusive, and to think otherwise requires a disturbing partition of the mind. Science is a search for answers, while religion denies us even the ability to search and instead asks us to rely on faith. For this reason, faith is one of societies largest obstacles to overcome.

    Faith requires constant reinforcement, while science doesn't care if you believe or not.
    I quite humbly disagree, but I bet we could have some seriously epic conversations were I up there. I'd love to know what initiated the expansion of our universe. I really would. I've read all sorts of theories- the coolest one being that two universal planes happened to bump together and spark a release of energy that resulted in our perceivable universe. *Keanu Reeves voice* "Whoa." I am thankful for people who devote their lives to the search for answers.


    Anyway, we're on this site because we love biking, and I'm very appreciative of all of the help given.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeytonP View Post
    I quite humbly disagree, but I bet we could have some seriously epic conversations were I up there. I'd love to know what initiated the expansion of our universe. I really would. I've read all sorts of theories- the coolest one being that two universal planes happened to bump together and spark a release of energy that resulted in our perceivable universe. *Keanu Reeves voice* "Whoa." I am thankful for people who devote their lives to the search for answers.


    Anyway, we're on this site because we love biking, and I'm very appreciative of all of the help given.
    I don't know how you'll take this but here goes: those who are really into religion (and I'm putting you into that category) think pretty much everyone else is, or if they're not, they really want to be.

    Nothing makes me more nervous than for someone to start talking religion with me. I have a stock saying: I never talk politics or religion. And I never do. It's that simple.

    And, with all respect, I bet you talk religion all the time. If that's the case, just make sure your audience pretty much thinks the same. Not--talking politics with religious overtones, not talking how the youth of today would walk the straight path if there was more religion in their life...you see where I'm going with this? If your audience already agrees with you on this and goes to church and wants to talk religion, well, great, talk on.

    If not, it gets real tiresome real fast.

    I hope I haven't offended you.
    So it seems to me to be, this thing that I think I see.

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    Because I can't sum it up any better myself, here's a quote from my favorite Atheist, Ricky Gervais:

    "Why don’t I believe in God? No, no no, why do YOU believe in God? Surely the burden of proof is on the believer. You started all this. If I came up to you and said, “Why don’t you believe I can fly?” You’d say, “Why would I?” I’d reply, “Because it’s a matter of faith.” If I then said, “Prove I can’t fly. Prove I can’t fly see, see, you can’t prove it can you?” You’d probably either walk away, call security or throw me out of the window and shout, ‘’F—ing fly then you lunatic.”

    Either way, good luck with the move. Enjoy the trails and all the state has to offer. Just please don't ask me to talk about Texas or religion. I've got no use for either one.

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    I hope I haven't offended you.[/QUOTE]

    Not at all, dude. I completely understand that.
    That's why I'm not throwing down my theology or spouting out Bible verses.

    I just want to help kids overcome struggles and live healthy lives.

    I'd love the chance to do that in CO.

    Thanks for offering your polite discussion.

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    I guess I find it kind of funny that I had no intentions of sharing anything about my faith on this thread, yet I'm the one reading all the preaching.

    I just want to get to beautiful CO, ride my bike, and maybe help some kids make it through life who might not have any other shoulder to lean on.

    I trusted the open minded mountain bike community to maybe help me along the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeytonP View Post
    I quite humbly disagree, but I bet we could have some seriously epic conversations were I up there. ......
    You seem to be be coming on a bit too strong there, IMHO.

    Colorado already has tons of mountain bikers. It's not like we are just hurting for new people to ride with and crowd the trails more.

    And It does make some folks uncomfortable to have their kinds "programmed" the way you mention (religiously) as opposed to just sending them off to a non-religious day camp (ile Foothills Park & Rec District job posting). Foothills P&RD is a "special District" and therefore a government entity and any religious leaning expressed through that avenue would not be OK.

    Just saying: "programing" is all based on your point of view. The Christian slant is looked at as programmimng by many around the world and to be honest, it's probably a lot more accepted in east Texas than it is around here (hence my original comment that you might feel more at home there than you realize)- not that there are not many christians here, but per capita, probably significantly less than east Texas.

    Most folks realize that you mean well, but sometimes you have to take a step back and look at the big picture to see that what you and those close to you believe as absolute truth, others see as willful ignorance. If you stick to the MT biking angle and left the religion out, you not only would be more "on topic" with what this forum is about, but would probably have better luck here..

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    Yeah, good points for sure, and I'm aware. I just know if a rider posted on the Texas forum that they were moving here and had a certain occupation in mind, I'd be compelled to offer some advice and to show them the trails.
    I was just hoping for the same.

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    LOL
    I have no idea how that text from my gf was pasted in that other post. Oh man lol lameness

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeytonP View Post
    Yeah, good points for sure, and I'm aware. I just know if a rider posted on the Texas forum that they were moving here and had a certain occupation in mind, I'd be compelled to offer some advice and to show them the trails.
    I was just hoping for the same.
    Who in GOD'S NAME would do something like that?

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    I have to say, PeytonP seems like an all right dude.
    I am not religous and could agree and double down on the anti-religious posts that have been posted.
    But, I try to give people respect for their own very personal beliefs.
    Peyton's not preaching, and he wants to help kids. That's great.

    Now, in comparison, I'm on this other forum arguing with a couple of complete retards who say blacks were marked by God to show their inferiority, that Jesus was white, not dark skinned or middle eastern looking. That God is white and white people are in his image, not other types of people etc.
    Now I'm all over their ****. They are the evil kind of religous people. Peyton doesn't seem like that.

    I called those guys retards, but maybe I'm the retard. After all, I'm arguing religion on the internet!!

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    For example:

    Saying to just about anyone in East Texas "my main passion, life's endeavor, and educational background is Christian youth ministry" you'd probably receive congratulations on doing the Lord's work and get loving knowing looks--he's one of us! Such a good man!

    Here, the usual reaction is going to be "Huh?" A real culture shock for you! I think you've already gotten that here, and we're all normal Colorado folks right here on this forum. Am I right, forum?
    So it seems to me to be, this thing that I think I see.

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    My "youth programs, programming youths" comment was just me unable to pass up a chance for wordplay. As an agnostic, I think your comments have been perfectly fine, PeytonP. Frankly I'm surprised at the attitudes expressed here when all you've done is explain what career you were looking for. Good on you for taking them in stride.

    You'll have to realize that there's a lot of ribbing about Texan immigrants, (I think) it's mostly in fun. Just don't let them know I came here from Austin and was born in Nederland. Jefferson County to Jefferson County has to be good for some acceptance, right?

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    "Just don't let them know I came here from Austin and was born in Nederland"

    What are you, twins?
    So it seems to me to be, this thing that I think I see.

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    I've spent lots of time in CO and know exactly what's thought of my state! I guess I just can't help that I wasn't lucky enough to be born in CO.

    Smilinsteve- those people make my life and work hell, let me assure you. There's a big difference in studying a philosophy and its writers' works, devoting time to understanding their messages, and then discussing the ideas with others, and then there are those hateful people who use those ideas out of context, as you said, to play their own agenda, take advantage of others, and completely launch an ignorant war on what they can't comprehend by using tidbits of ideas they can't comprehend. It's pathetic and pitiful.

    Anyway! This thread has taken a whole new direction.
    If anyone has more advice on where I might want to look as I figure out this whole wanting to move thing, please feel free to chime in.

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    Utah.

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    I want a refund.
    I went to the circus tonight and I could have just stayed home and read this thread.

    Where I grew up, in the middle of August. 105+ in the shade. Welcome to hell. Can't blame anyone for wanting out.
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    If you are all about moving somewhere for riding, I suggest you look into Granby. I can't say how the job market is up there, I would take a guess it may be quite horrible going off the housing market. However, there is a ton of trail riding and 2 resorts for DH riding nearby. You could try looking for work at the YMCA between the two. Grand Lake is down the street and may contain some summer time youth camps. IMO, don't focus on resorts. Focus on the main towns outside the resorts if you want to be in the mountains.

    If you want to live in the mountains you may have to combine several low paying jobs to make ends meet. If you can find a golden egg job up there, kuddos. But I have a feeling your search will be endless unless luck is on your side. Keep in mind, there are also a fair amount of people living here in the Front Range keeping ears open for the right job up there to come up and move out of the city. I know several people who work for nonprofits in/around Boulder helping kids. It is a tough market and right now, they are struggling to keep the doors open. I applaud your work, however this is a rough time to be in your business.

    Living here my entire life, most all of my jobs have been referrals. From my experience, much of our job market is founded on this unless you have some unique skill which is highly demanded. You may find that your best bet is to choose a place you like, take a crappy job. Start to meet some people/volunteer where you think may be a place you would like to end up and start networking there. Ultimately, sack away some cash, hit up a few places in person. We all have our own ideas on what we think is the best place, both on the FR and in the mountains. I think there is a whole thread about moving out here as well.

    As you can see, there is a good amount of push back when it comes to outsiders. And that is just here on the Front Range (though I always wonder how many of these people are really from here). Go in the mountains and this can be even worse (since you are takin' der jobzzz!). Mainly because there has been a huge influx of people over the past 15 years with poor urban planning. So there are a lot of transplants (who love to tell you about where they are from and how great XYZ was back home) Thus why you see people driving around with Native stickers on their car (a bit pretentious, but I assume they are just proud of where they come from. Though the Colorado flag is becoming more popular now which I think is cool for anyone just proud to be here)

    It used to be a slower pace, we have to deal with what it is now. Open space is a valuable resource here, and becoming more and more crowded. It is not an endless quantity of desired space. However, once you show up, meet some people, make some turns, no one cares that much where you came from. There is some advice, ranting and random thoughts you can take for what it is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctasset View Post
    If you are all about moving somewhere for riding, I suggest you look into Granby.
    If you like that idea, there is a Young Life camp outside of Fraser (close to Granby):
    Crooked Creek Ranch - A Young Life Camp

    There are many Christian Youth camps in the mountains around here. If that interests you, here are a couple others.

    Camp Como - Christian youth camps, youth adventure camps, adult camps and retreats in beautiful Colorado. | Camp Como

    IdRaHaJe Camp and Retreat Center in Bailey CO

    REDCLOUD | Christian Mountain Adventures | Colorado Christian Camp & Retreat Center

    Redcloud is in amongst one of the most amazing settings you will see in your life. Close to Lake City and in the San Juan mountains. Hands down the most beautiful mtn areas in the state. This area would be great for your photographer wife to be.
    Of course, working for camps may be a lot of low salary and raising financial support, but I am sure you're aware of that, and it doesn't sound like you're in it for the money!

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    GIANTkiller- I really hope your forum handle isn't about Giant bikes!

    but THANK YOU for that wealth of info. I'll definitely see what those camps are all about.

    Thanks to you others for the good advice, as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleTrail View Post
    I want a refund.
    I went to the circus tonight and I could have just stayed home and read this thread.

    Where I grew up, in the middle of August. 105+ in the shade. Welcome to hell. Can't blame anyone for wanting out.
    Is that a sidewalk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    Is that a sidewalk?
    Entrance road/driveway.
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