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    Cyclist assaulted by police officer @ Critical Mass

    This is a nice reminder of how many people think that problem cyclist should be dealt with............

    http://gothamist.com/2008/07/28/cop_...lting_cycl.php

    I am not defending or condeming the cop or cyclists' actions, just trying to raise awareness of where this 'user conflict' has gone in other (albeit different circumstances) parts of the country

    I thought it appropriate given all of the JEFCO *****fest threads as of late.

    Once again, my opinion is that WE (read the cyclists) need to police our own actions before we are forced to by the PTB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsalty
    This is a nice reminder of how many people think that problem cyclist should be dealt with............

    http://gothamist.com/2008/07/28/cop_...lting_cycl.php

    I am not defending or condeming the cop or cyclists' actions, just trying to raise awareness of where this 'user conflict' has gone in other (albeit different circumstances) parts of the country

    I thought it appropriate given all of the JEFCO *****fest threads as of late.

    Once again, my opinion is that WE (read the cyclists) need to police our own actions before we are forced to by the PTB.

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    I'd condem his actions; What he did is so incredibly effed up not to mention illegal.

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    I had a tree do that same sh!t to me not too long ago.
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    That was messed up. Hopefully that cop is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
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    Upset Wtf..........

    ...... are you a pansy or stupid, how could you not condem that police officers actions Seems that the officer in question has been suspended or the like pending an ivestigation what sort of investigation needs to be carried out to see that the cops an ass who was clearly wrong and compesating the cyclist with some serious cash. I mean seriously, there's audio and at no point do you hear him give any order/warning for the cyclist to stop/yield or see him signal any such action.

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    ...................................I am not defending or condeming the cop or cyclists' actions,...........................

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    WTF!!!!! So what am I missing that the cyclist did differently than the other cyclists? From my point of view, that piece of **** cop just played whack a mole and the cyclist was in the wrong part of the street at the wrong time.

    What a prick, looks like the cyclist just fell back towards the curb too. F!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    ...... are you a pansy or stupid, how could you not condem that police officers actions
    I read that as "I'm not stating my opinion here in an effort to avoid being called a pansy or stupid by my peers."
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    Welcome to New York City! Now get yer can off my sidewalk and get outta my sight before I pull out my night stick you piece o crap!

    Anyone who is "shocked" by this has never been to NYC. Without that video, there is not one chance in a million that a hundred witness could get that police officer sanctioned in any way. All he has to do it say the cyclist flipped him off. The other cops would laugh and say "good job Joe....I'da given him the night stick".

    This is not a commentary on what is right, just how (IMO) it is. NYC Finest.

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    ****ed up.

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    That's freaken crazy!

    It almost seems that both the cops new it was coming though, and then there is a dude at the end that rides up and picks up that dudes bike like it was a normal thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    ...... are you a pansy or stupid, how could you not condem that police officers actions Seems that the officer in question has been suspended or the like pending an ivestigation what sort of investigation needs to be carried out to see that the cops an ass who was clearly wrong and compesating the cyclist with some serious cash. I mean seriously, there's audio and at no point do you hear him give any order/warning for the cyclist to stop/yield or see him signal any such action.
    My interpretation is that he's trying to balance the rights of a cyclist with the annoyance of critical mass and its participants who (generalization here...) are usually breaking the law in some form or fashion.

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    Hmmm... I'd like to see the rest of the video. It appears the cop targeted that specific cyclist, maybe the cyclist did something the videographer chose not to record? Maybe the videographer was in on it? With all the cyclists and recorders, along with the pedestrians, it seems a little absurd that the cop would do something like that to get fired. Then again maybe he didn't like his hipster fixie.
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    Did you guys read what the cop put in his report, "Long rode his bike straight into him, knocking them both down and causing a ďlacerationĒ on his arm"

    If that's straight into him I must have failed geometry and not even realized it.
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    Saw that on the news last night.. the cop has been suspended to desk duty pending investigation and has had his badge and gun taken for the time being.

    The real ****e part is they are charging the cyclist with 3 charges for something like "impeding traffic". You have to love police abuse.. they assult this guy and then stick him with some crap charges to make it look justified. If this wasn't caught on tape he'd be just another guy getting screwed on both ends.

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    That's par for the course. Our finest have become the biggest law breakers out there and are clearly abusing their badges. (Other examples, the off duty Chicago police officer that assaulted a bartender on camera, the Florida deputy that dumped an invalid out of his wheelchair for no apparent reason, I have many other links and stories). My friend was a NYC cop and he said the general attitude by all was to get through the shift without confrontation and putting his a$$ on the line which meant driving the opposite direction when shots were fired and only responding to incidents that dispatch assigned to them. The unfortunate truth is that this video captures one incident, but thousands of other abuses of power are never captured and the victims don't have any course of action.

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    I hope Long sues the living b'jesus out of that cop in a personal suit...as well as the NYPD!

    ...and maybe even the dad for making such a head-in-a$$ comment!

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    I must have missed that part, who's the "dad"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ban'd4life
    I must have missed that part, who's the "dad"?
    I thought the dad of the cop said, 'you gotta do what you gotta do to get an arrest.'

    It was in the 7/29 update. Direct copy from the update:
    Pogan was stripped of his gun and badge pending an investigation. But his father defended him to the Daily News, saying, “You gotta do what you gotta do to make an arrest.”

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    That's so funny. Good old NY style arrest.

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    Remember, cops are people too. Which means they can be just as lazy and bad at their job as anyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithnu
    Remember, cops are people too. Which means they can be just as lazy and bad at their job as anyone else.
    ...and get sued for being bad at their job that has consequences w/ the general public, especially when the motto is to serve and protect w/ respect to the general public. Maybe motto should be changed, 'To beat and bludgeon'?
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    Instead of stereotyping an entire group of people because of the d!cktard antics of a few I try and use my first hand experience with people when judging them, that being said there are some great police men and women out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithnu
    Remember, cops are people too. Which means they can be just as lazy and bad at their job as anyone else.
    That's the most intelligent thing said yet.
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    officer.....

    I would've pedaled right up beside officer cockknuckles and gave em a piece of my Atomlabs right in his porky calves........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stinkyfan
    I would've pedaled right up beside officer cockknuckles and gave em a piece of my Atomlabs right in his porky calves........
    And that was the least intelligent thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y
    ...and get sued for being bad at their job that has consequences w/ the general public
    Exactly
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    Quote Originally Posted by jugdish
    Instead of stereotyping an entire group of people because of the d!cktard antics of a few I try and use my first hand experience with people when judging them, that being said there are some great police men and women out there.
    Just like I said, they're people too. There are crappy and fantastic people across all walks of life, cops included. And when you fudge up your job like this, you should be punished/fired/sued whatever fits.

    I think in this case there needs to be some more input other than just the video. But I'd guess something along the lines of suspended for while, then a desk job for significant amount of time, and probably a law suit thrown on top of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx[B
    ]...... are you a pansy or stupid, [/B]how could you not condem that police officers actions Seems that the officer in question has been suspended or the like pending an ivestigation what sort of investigation needs to be carried out to see that the cops an ass who was clearly wrong and compesating the cyclist with some serious cash. I mean seriously, there's audio and at no point do you hear him give any order/warning for the cyclist to stop/yield or see him signal any such action.
    I am still chuckling about the irony of this statement...........

    apparently both, as I am replying to someone on the 'internets'

    well, since I was not there, and had no idea what was done/said (jeered the cop, ran a red light, did something out of camera range, did nothing, JRA, etc.)
    I figured I would give them BOTH the benefit of the doubt, and simply let the merits of the video be discussed.

    in conclusion..................ease up there bed wetter'

    however, I do think the real issue is that non cyclists are 'fed up' with the behavior of a few 'bad apples' if you will, and this is part of what has shown itself lately with increased enforcement of (sometimes absurd) trail codes.

    I personally could give a crap about the user conflicts on most trails, as I don't ride the highly congested metro denver region for that reason.

    what I do care about is a group of retarded cyclists behavior causing draconinan enforecement of common sense trail etiquette because some people never learned the priniciples taught in kindergarten.

    so if you could get over your indignant outrage long enough to come to grips with the fact that we are at a critical time in terms of what the future will mean to ALL cyclists' trail and road rights.

    the people on these boards ARE the first step in responsible trail use education and diplomacy.
    whether you like it or not, YOU are an ambassador for all MTBikers when you encounter other trail users.

    pansy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    That's the most intelligent thing said yet.

    You've brought so much to this thread. You,douche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stinkyfan
    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    That's the most intelligent thing said yet.
    You've brought so much to this thread. You,douche.
    I never thought that my agreeing with Ithnu would anger you so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    I never thought that my agreeing with Ithnu would anger you so.
    Does that make me a douche indirectly?

    I sir am not a douche, I lean more towards sarcastic A-hole
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    in slow motion, it appears that the video could be fair example of being "de-cleated" to use a familiar pigskin term ;-)
    .........seems things are getting testy around here. maybe too many days over 90?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bull_D
    in slow motion, it appears that the video could be fair example of being "de-cleated" to use a familiar pigskin term ;-)
    .........seems things are getting testy around here. maybe too many days over 90?
    Yeah, its hard to stay drunk and happy when you sweat the booze out so fast
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bull_D
    .........seems things are getting testy around here. maybe too many days over 90?
    Screw you!



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    Interesting video. Have any of you ever taken part in a critical mass ride? It's not just to be a-holes to car drivers (though that part is fun..) the idea is to show how much space is devoted to cars and how many more bikes can be in that same space. With gas getting so expensive this is gaining a lot of relevance.

    I used to ride the one in Fort Collins all the time until the SAME THING in that video happened up here. Three of my friends were forcibly knocked off their bikes and arrested by FCPD on Mason street right in front of Avos. When you step back and look at how absurd it is to use violence against someone on a bike exercising civil disobedience it sort of boggles the mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andykrow
    I used to ride the one in Fort Collins all the time until the SAME THING in that video happened up here. Three of my friends were forcibly knocked off their bikes and arrested by FCPD on Mason street right in front of Avos. When you step back and look at how absurd it is to use violence against someone on a bike exercising civil disobedience it sort of boggles the mind.
    Ahhh Avo's...home of the $1 Huber. Good times!

    I'm thinking that Long did do something illegal that caught the attention of both officers. Both of them seemed to have homed in on him at the same time. None-the-less, as for the officer...I say we stab him, then we hang him, then we shoot him, and then we kill him!

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    I wish they still had that! Their supplier stopped carrying it. I moved out here after going to college in southern Wisco and drinking $1 Hubers all the time. Couldn't believe they had it there of all places.

    As for my Crit Mass experience, it started with cops yelling at us with megaphones to stop and be ticketed. No one of course would do that. Bear in mind that crit mass is supposed to obey all rules of the road except obstructing cars in a lane and that's what we were doing. Stop at stop signs and lights, etc. Anyway they would block the road, we would all (300 of us!) turn on the street before them. This happened several times until we eventually got into CSU and they wouldn't follow us in. When we popped out on Mason they were waiting on foot, shot mace at a couple people and violently knocked down several more, all of whom I knew personally. They all got tickets for resisting arrest, nothing related to traffic offenses or what have you. The cops were violent enough that most people just scattered, including myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SylentK
    ...I say we stab him, then we hang him, then we shoot him, and then we kill him!

    (relax, it's a quote from a movie)
    I like the way you think.

    (relax, it's just that I happen to agree with the guy in the movie)
    Now with more vitriol!

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    Seattle Too

    I'm in Seattle this week and a critical mass story hit the front page newspaper today...check it out

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...almass29m.html

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    Typical cop mentality if you ask me. Yeah sure, there are some good cops out there but the majority of cops that I've had the displeasure of meeting are a bunch of power-hungry pricks.
    Last edited by rep_1969; 07-30-2008 at 11:13 AM.

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    It looks like the good sherrif in Larimer County has no love for you boulder cyclists in his neck of the woods.

    http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...ts-in-larimer/

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    Yeah, I've been on one CM ride for about 10 minutes until I realized that the route they were taking could have been traveled on bike paths and lanes that were already provided, thus NOT pissing off the great majority of motorists.

    Gotta love the CM events that take place in towns like FC and Boulder. Towns that already have a pretty decent amount of bike paths and lanes. Nothing like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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    Yup

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    Wtf?

    I can't believe a thinking person could see that and even think there could have been justification. If the officer need the guy to stop, there were about a thousand better ways he could have done it. I kind of wish someone on the sidewalk had been injured so there would be two big f'in lawsuits instead of just the sure one.

    In Chicago or Denver the cop would be history already. I know the people in NYC like their cops in the ******* flavor, so maybe he gets a medal out of it?

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    If this wasnt' recorded, the cop would have never gotten in trouble and this statement that the cyclist hit him would have held, making the cyclist at fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    If this wasnt' recorded, the cop would have never gotten in trouble and this statement that the cyclist hit him would have held, making the cyclist at fault.
    Makes you wonder if the bad guys are all that bad, or the good guys are all that good... or was it the good guys are just the bad guys that haven't been caught yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    If this wasnt' recorded, the cop would have never gotten in trouble and this statement that the cyclist hit him would have held, making the cyclist at fault.

    Exactly!!

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    This ish happens all the time. Geez look at what Denver PD gets away with. Tazed a guy to death who was brandishing a wallet.

    Talk about police state...I saw four state troopers and one sheriff Saturday in between FC and Hewlett gulch. I feel so safe!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by andykrow
    This ish happens all the time. Geez look at what Denver PD gets away with. Tazed a guy to death who was brandishing a wallet.

    Talk about police state...I saw four state troopers and one sheriff Saturday in between FC and Hewlett gulch. I feel so safe!!
    http://www.cyclelicio.us/2008/08/den...teeth-for.html

    And here's another one closer to home.

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by SylentK
    Ahhh Avo's...home of the $1 Huber. Good times!

    I'm thinking that Long did do something illegal that caught the attention of both officers. Both of them seemed to have homed in on him at the same time. None-the-less, as for the officer...I say we stab him, then we hang him, then we shoot him, and then we kill him!

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