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    Conditions: Hall, Bobcat, Backbon, Coyote, Maxwell, Horsetooth...

    Ladies and Gents,

    It is predicted to be near 50 for the next three days! I know that many of us are planning some sweet rides. Lets keep a consolidated conditions thread for those of us in the Fort Collins/Loveland areas. Im going to be at Bobcat w/ in 2hrs and will pony up the results ASAP.

    Hall, Backbone, Coyote, Blue Sky, Bobcat, Horsetooth, Maxwell, Foothills, Michaud, Lory, etc....

    Hell yeah!

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    Devils backbone was great last weekend

    Pics and discussion here.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSLICE
    Im going to be at Bobcat w/ in 2hrs and will pony up the results ASAP.
    Hell yeah!
    My prediction is that it will be muddy with the recent snow and warm temps. But let us know. I personally won't be riding until the trails are dry or the temps are cold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jl
    My prediction is that it will be muddy with the recent snow and warm temps. But let us know. I personally won't be riding until the trails are dry or the temps are cold.

    Agree. It's not going to be warm enough for long enough to melt AND dry all the stuff out facing north or in the shade.

    I'd rather have it cold and icy than warm and muddy.

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    Still gotta go out there and look. The DBB/BS system dries out quickly and has relatively few hold-out pockets of snow and wet, so it dries faster than one might think.
    Ginny is still an unknown to me, and I have high hopes it will dry quickly too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    I'd rather have it cold and icy than warm and muddy.
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    Nice to see your new website, ignazjr.
    You gonna be around Saturday?
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    Just got back from a short ride at Maxwell and it's in good shape with a few short muddy sections, but not bad to ride through. Was planning on checking out shoreline and michaud but pussed out because of the wind by the reservoir. I was getting blown all over the place. Rode through the eastern side of dixon reservoir in pineridge to get there and it was an icy rutted mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WKD-RDR
    Nice to see your new website, ignazjr.
    You gonna be around Saturday?
    I will. I recently restocked the beer in the fridge, too. With any luck, there should be some left yet tomorrow...
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    Here is what Maxwell looked like today.



    I wish!
    Deterred by the winds and skiing tomorrow.

    I must say however that I have ridden Bobcat 5 times since the 1st and the trail is pretty much bone dry with the exception of two short snow/ice sections until ~.5 miles before the end of Ginny. There was much less snowfall out of the last system near the Fort than Denver area. What fell was gone in ~2 days so I would imagine that good riding is there for the taking.

    Im sure that I'll make it Sunday...

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    Hewlett this morning

    Some pics from this mornings ride w/ dogs. Wouldn't be good if it's too warm, but it was primo early.
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    couple more

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    Quote Originally Posted by front range migz
    Hewlett Gulch cont.
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    Maxwell is good

    Just finished a ride up maxwell. Came in from the end of prospect road and the gravel road has about 100 yd. stretch of ice that was fun (sketchy). Not sure how it is if you come in from pineridge side. A little muddy/icy by the fence and up on the switchback at the top but other than that it was totally rideable. First time on a bike in about 6 weeks and it was great to ride again.

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    Rode HTMP last Sunday. Mostly ridable as the temps were <32 that day. There was a lot of ice in the usual places (northern exposure/shady) making it more sketch/tech ride than normal especially the descents. I assume conditions are pretty much same this weekend if you get your butt up there before the ice turns to a muddy mess.

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    I just got back from a quick Hall Ranch ride. Antelope was a total mixed bag - dry, snow, ice, deep snowpack. It wasn't bad when it was shaded and frozen, but it could get sloppy if it really warms up. From Antelope up to the loop was good, there was just a little ice on the final approach to the loop. I rode out on the loop a little bit, but it got too snowy/icy/chunky so I turned around. Between the top bench and Antelope was snowy/icy and will be muddy if it warms up quite a bit. The descent down the front side was bone dry and good.
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    So did anyone hit Bobcat yesterday? Conditions?

    I know Backbone is fine, but would prefer to hit Bobcat if it's good.

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    Bobcat is fine. A fair bit of snow on sections of Powerline. Gennie is mostly dry and clear. Just one section of thin snow on the lower part. Probably 300 yards.

    Rode it yesterday. A feast: Up Powerline down Gennie. (Or however that is spelllledd)

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    Larry,

    DBB is fine although Blue Sky headed North to Indian Summer was pretty muddy.
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    Devil's Backbone

    Rode DBB this morning. It's in good shape--just a few short muddy spots before you start the climb that aren't a big deal. The upper loops are almost completely dry. We checked out the first part of Blue Sky as well. It is a muddy mess and not worth riding right now. Big mud holes with ruts and people widening the trail to get around. I would say we're going to need a bit more warm weather to dry it out. I'd say it could be ridden right now on a cold morning before it thaws.

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    Ha, I was riding the road bike yesterday and saw a group turning from the tunnel at the end of Blue Sky heading back to town. They were really brown and the trail looked really bad on the east side of the tunnel. Went the bathroom at HTMP and the few bikes I saw being loaded on the car looked like more post-ride cleanup that I like to do right now...

    It's 55 out now, so historically the backbone should be real dry and the best ride in the FtC Loveland area. Blue Sky might need another week or so (or at least more of this warm windy weather to melt some more.)
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    Sunday at Bobcat:

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    Just bump'n this to the top. With highs in the upper 50's this weekend, conditions could be fair or slop. Lets hear it.

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    How are conditions @ Devil's Backbone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by weimie
    How are conditions @ Devil's Backbone?
    Good chance that it will be dry by the weekend, but a bit snowy now. Pics from 4:30-5:30pm yesterday....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSLICE
    Just bump'n this to the top. With highs in the upper 50's this weekend, conditions could be fair or slop. Lets hear it.
    I hiked up Maxwell this morning ... still plenty of snow on the trail. Not packed down too much just yet so maybe it will melt a little quicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSLICE
    With highs in the upper 50's this weekend, conditions could be fair or slop. Lets hear it.
    There was a ol' school biker (KB) that use to say "strong, cheap, light--pick two."

    I think the same sort of model can apply mountain biking in CO--winter, warm, mtb--pick two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ventanarama
    Good chance that it will be dry by the weekend, but a bit snowy now. Pics from 4:30-5:30pm yesterday
    Thanks for the update....maybe I'll give it another week.

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    I just ran Maxwell and lower Foothills. There is still ~ 3/4 of an inch on the trails and with the winds it is drifting in spots. Should be dry by Sunday if the "spring" spell hits as predicted.

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    Here's what it looks like where the Coalton Trail meets the High Plains Trail (as of 2/9/08):

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    Where is Bobcat?

    I would like to check out Bobcat, but can't find it on any searches or any of the guide books I have. I would definitely appreciate some help, current conditions a bonus. Thanks. By the way, I'm new to Mtbr and I think the forums are helpful and interesting. It is also nice not to see al the negativity that is prevalent so many other places where people can post anonymously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Train
    I would like to check out Bobcat, but can't find it on any searches or any of the guide books I have. I would definitely appreciate some help, current conditions a bonus. Thanks. By the way, I'm new to Mtbr and I think the forums are helpful and interesting. It is also nice not to see al the negativity that is prevalent so many other places where people can post anonymously.
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    Not sure about current conditions. Looked a little soggy yesterday (based on the sight of the bike I saw on a rack...).

    Here is how to get there: From Fort Collins leave via Harmony Road towards Masonville. In Masonville take a left towards Loveland at the two Western Shops (no worries, that is the only intersection in Masonville). Follow the road for probably a mile. During the mile the road does a right turn, over a little bridge and a left turn. You arrived.... Bobcat is on the right.

    From Loveland take Hwy 34 West. Take CR 27 towards Masonville. At the intersection Hwy 34/CR 27 you'll see a school right at the corner (you turn right before it, yellow building). Follow Cr 27 for 3-4 miles. Bobcat is on the left. You know you went too far when you do a left turn , go over a narrow bridge and up into Masonville...

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    Any word on hall ranch or Heil?

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    Just got back from a sweet ride. Rode from FC (8:15) to Coyote Ridge,S. on Blue Sky thru DBB, then flipped it & went N. on Blue Sky with a quick detour on Indian Summer loop, I got to the Nomad turnoff on Towers Rd. (11:30) and ran into a couple runners who had some pretty muddy shoes and decided to call it a day and rode back to FC on the road.

    It was 100% dry or frozen trail, however, if it hadn't been for the temp inversion I don't think it would have been the same story. There are some rutted sections, especially on the N. end of BS, that are obviously a good weeks worth of sun away from drying up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nOOby
    Any word on hall ranch or Heil?

    Hall is good up to the bench, and looked good up to the loop this morning.
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    Dixon, Foothills, and Maxwell

    Rode Dixon, Foothills, and Maxwell, yesterday... Everything is pretty nice and dry EXCEPT the trails around Dixon lake/resivoir which are a total mess... Don't ride it if you follow the "tread lighty" rule.
    Foothills trail from the stadium north to Resivoir Ridge seems pretty good. Maxwell had a couple little stretches that were muddy, but nothing too bad. Also last weekend I hiked Resivoir Ridge and it was probably about 90% dry, with a little snow/ice here and there.
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    I rode Coyote Ridge/Rimrock/Indian Summer and back this morning. It's pretty dry for the most part (frozen solid.) I can't believe you guys who are trying to ride off road 5 days after we get snow and a few 50 degree days. Some sections are so chewed up and rutted it's sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2melow
    Some sections are so chewed up and rutted it's sad.

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    I've only been here 3 winters yet somehow managed to pick up over the first one that you can only ride in the winter in the Front Range:

    a) when its frozen
    b) when its not winter in the front range

    While I appreciate the enthusiasm of riders around town its also mind boggling that they go out and ride in conditions that are obviously detrimental to the trails. I went out to MM this past week (in the morning when it was still frozen) with my dog and was dissapointed (but not shocked) to see that people are already riding and destroying the trails.

    rant over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2melow
    I can't believe you guys who are trying to ride off road 5 days after we get snow and a few 50 degree days. Some sections are so chewed up and rutted it's sad.
    I rode DBB on Sunday. It was in good shape except for 2 very muddy parts about 10-15 yards each. I did my best to ride slow in the middle, but I was still not happy about it.

    All I know is that I'll take the this forum's "good-to-ride" advise with a shaker of salt. I also think I'll stick to the below 32 rule for a while.

    Anyway, this po' gal followed her BF (who was trail running) from Lory to DBB. As soon as I saw this, I knew there was no reason to try to ride blue sky. Might as well do the loop backwards...



    This was after her BF "cleaned" the mud off her bike. Anyway blue sky will probably be a bad choice until Cinco De Mayo. I know everyone is itchin' to ride, let's just be smart about it. Maybe the tarmac isn't so bad if you don't like the sub-freezing weather?
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    so anyone know what the chances are of Devils Backbone being dry this Saturday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooner518
    so anyone know what the chances are of Devils Backbone being dry this Saturday?
    I wouldn't guess that the chances would be good. If Loveland got as much (or more) snow as Longmont did, its gonna be sloppy at best.

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    I highly doubt the backbone will be dry by Saturday. But, with forecasted temps of mid-40's on Saturday, Sunday might be rideable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jl
    I rode DBB on Sunday. It was in good shape except for 2 very muddy parts about 10-15 yards each. I did my best to ride slow in the middle, but I was still not happy about it.

    All I know is that I'll take the this forum's "good-to-ride" advise with a shaker of salt. I also think I'll stick to the below 32 rule for a while.

    Anyway, this po' gal followed her BF (who was trail running) from Lory to DBB. As soon as I saw this, I knew there was no reason to try to ride blue sky. Might as well do the loop backwards...



    This was after her BF "cleaned" the mud off her bike. Anyway blue sky will probably be a bad choice until Cinco De Mayo. I know everyone is itchin' to ride, let's just be smart about it. Maybe the tarmac isn't so bad if you don't like the sub-freezing weather?
    Wow, that's lame. She should be hiding her face in shame not smiling for the camera.

    Yeah, people need to learn that Blue Sky takes a lot longer to melt/dry. It needs at least several days of warm weather after the Backbone is rideable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ventanarama
    Wow, that's lame. She should be hiding her face in shame not smiling for the camera.
    I really don't blame her for the 'bad decision' she really isn't a mountain biker, and she was tagging along with her trail running buddies. They are the ones that really should of known better. Hopefully she won't repeat her mistake.

    For those of us that are avid mtb'ers, we should definitely know when and when not to be riding.

    I know I won't be riding the backbone in the middle of the day this weekend
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ventanarama

    Yeah, people need to learn that Blue Sky takes a lot longer to melt/dry. It needs at least several days of warm weather after the Backbone is rideable.

    No kidding. I saw a few guys coming off Blue Sky north via the tunnel looking like her if not worse a few weeks ago.

    Blue Sky doesn't get sun until probably after 12:00 - if at all on many spots this time of the year. It really needs three 50 degree plus days in a row to melt snow. Stay off it this weekend, it's gonna be muddy again unless you ride it super early.
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    Pineridge, Maxwell, Shoreline

    I got out this morning at about 8am. I rode Pineridge, it was frozen but really rutted up. On my way out, Rangers were closing Pineridge entirely until all the moisture drys up--it is needed there.

    I then headed over to Maxwell-Still frozen, but I bet even when the ground thaws it will be okay to ride. There was no snow and it was pretty windy (drying the trail).

    Shoreline-needs a couple more days, it was pretty rutted up (frozen when I hit it), and will be messy when it thaws

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    Backbone Tuesday Feb 19

    I was there around noon. It was perfect, better than it's been the last three weekends. I never made it to the Indian Summer loop today but the Backbone had very little water on it. Most of the softer, lower spots in the opening valley are firming up nicely. I wore my summer gear and it was very comfortable...

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    DBB....keep posting the conditions. Hopefully we won't get any snow tomorrow and it'll still be rideable this weekend!

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    Foothills, Maxwell, Shorline, Michaud

    These trails are in good shape. Maxwell, Shoreline, and Foothills from the stadium to Michaud are golden. Michaud has some wet spots but nothing to worry about as long as they are ridden slowly and in the center. Regarding Foothills tr: I diddnt ride down to the ERC and back to the ridge so I cant comment on this section.

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    Foothills Trail from ERC (end of Laporte Ave) toward Michaud (riding north) had a few short muddy sections at the bottom as of last week, so I expect it's in pretty good shape by now.

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    Poudre Canyon Trail Conditions?

    Anyone know how the conditions are at Hewlett Gulch? Thinking about heading up the canyon on Sunday but don't want to ride mud (not counting creek crossings).

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    The Gultch

    I haven't been there lately but I live in the Canyon and the is quite a bit of snow left att that altitude. I wouldn't try it unless the soil is frozen.

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    Thanks. I'll wait until it dries up.

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    if im reading this correctly, Devils Backbone is clear. I think Ill drive up from Denver and hit that tomorrow. NEver been there before but Im itching to get out and ride

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    Devils Backbone

    Yes, It's in great shape. I was there again today and it was still looking good. Very few soft spots and no wet spots. I didn't get a chance to make it to blue sky or Indian Summer but some of my friends did and they said it was dry as well. If anyone wants to ride with me this weekend let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooner518
    if im reading this correctly, Devils Backbone is clear. I think Ill drive up from Denver and hit that tomorrow. NEver been there before but Im itching to get out and ride
    What time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgltrak
    What time?
    me and a buddy are looking to leave Denver around 230 or 3. so get to the TH around 4 and go for maybe 1.5 or 2 hours. ill be on a light green Superlight. I forgot what he's on, but its a HT with an older Talas. i'd invite you to go up with us, but we've only got room for 2 bikes. youre welcome to ride with us, although you might be leaving me in the dust. ive ridden once since November.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgltrak
    What time?
    You wanna ride in the morning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooner518
    me and a buddy are looking to leave Denver around 230 or 3. so get to the TH around 4 and go for maybe 1.5 or 2 hours. ill be on a light green Superlight. I forgot what he's on, but its a HT with an older Talas. i'd invite you to go up with us, but we've only got room for 2 bikes. youre welcome to ride with us, although you might be leaving me in the dust. ive ridden once since November.
    No problem on the carpool. I live 15 minutes from the trail head. Thanks for the invite. May be doing a lunch ride, but could change plans. If I show, I don't know what I'll be riding, but I would be driving a red Toyota pickup. Don't wait for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash5twelve
    You wanna ride in the morning?
    Hey S. How early? I have an 11:00 meeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgltrak
    Hey S. How early? I have an 11:00 meeting.
    I'm off tomorrow...so, whenever. I can go early, or meet you for a lunch ride if it works better for you. -G.

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    how is Hall? i'd ride that even if it were just the tech rock garden climb up to the loop and turn around.

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    I could be in for a ride tomorrow.... if you guys come up with a time post it here or PM me. I live about 10 min from the trailhead and can execute local plans quickly.
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    backbone cond. 2/22

    Rode backbone and Indian Summer this morning, and backbone has one small mud spot about a .5 mi in, and then a couple mud spots near tree on Blue Sky. Indian Summer, if ridden clockwise, is great on way up, but has a few really muddy spots on way down, and the rd is muddy in spots as well. Few shots from today and Wed. Good meeting and riding w/ you Adam.
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    Pineridge Open Space

    Rode through Pineridge today. The ridge and valley trail were dry. Timber trail is closed.

    The trail that cuts from the valley around the west side of Dixon is dry to the parking lot. North of the parking lot through the trees is really sloppy mud. Along the trees on the east side of Dixon is muddy as well with some remaining snow. I would avoid these two spots.

    If you are wanting to ride through to link up to Maxwell, I would ride around the west side of Dixon and through the parking lot to the road. Avoid the trails close to the reservoir until they dry up some more.

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    Looped Horsetooth reservoir this afternoon. Pineridge is as reported above. Maxwell and Shoreline are fine. Upper Michaud has some wet spots on the east side of the ridge and just below the saddle.

    A call to the ranger in Lory prior to heading out assured us that the east side of South Valley loop was dry beyond the Arthur's Rock parking lot so we rode the dirt road to that point. The first mile of the east side of the loop toward Nomad was great, but it was awful after that. Don't even bother riding the valley in Lory or Nomad / Shoreline in HTMP unless frozen, or until we have had several days of drying.

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    Bobcat is rideable - some soft spots

    Rode this morning Powerline and Ginny. Both are rideable but have some soft spots. Expect a couple of yards mud slinging every now and then. Most of the trails is bone dry, though.

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    rode the HTMP service rode today, it was a muddy mess. If the temp's keep up i would give it another week or two

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    Checked out DBB today... Lot was full. Completely full. Even the expanded part with cars overflowing into the trailer parking area. Someone out there commented that it looked like a migration. Yikes.
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    Sunday PM. Powerline and Ginny at Bobcat are good. A few wet areas at the top of Powerline and the beginning of Ginny, but what a fun day. Serious wind on the ridge!

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    I rode the standard Maxwell, Shorline, Michaud combo again today. It was good and looked even better when I hiked the same route a couple of hours later.

    Im glad to hear that Bobcat is good.

    Can anyone give me a Hall Ranch update? How is the upper loop drying out?

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    Anyone up for Ginny tomorrow, noonish before the wind gets too crazy?
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    Hall was in great shape on Sunday, all the way up to the bench. Dropping over the back side, there is still a large mud pit near the Antelope trail intersection, but then it's 98% dry up to the loop. The entrance to the loop looked like a mud-fest so I didn't attempt it.
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    Bobcat had several muddy spots yesterday that required walking. The clay fraction of the soil prevented any traction. Should be better by the weekend though. The herd of 50-60 elk that I saw should be packing the trail down for us over the next few days.

    I did notice one spot in particular that was getting wide from people trying to ride around the mud. Keep it up and they will close the trail...

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    Tower road and such...

    Rob here from Singletrack Mind. I started at Lory today from the southern most parking lot at 10:30 or so. I rode Nomad, Tower road, and Loggers back to the parking lot. The Lower valley was a little muddy but not too bad. Not nearly as bad as I expected it might be. The soft stuff was only on the topsoil and didn't appear to rut out when you rode over it. Tower road was great! There is some snow in some of the shady areas but for the most part it was dry. The snowy areas where not deep and I still got great traction. I decided to drop in at Loggers road cause it's so shady up there and I had a hunch there would still be a lot of snow. I was right, it was pretty bad in some areas as you might expect. The good news, even the deeper snow provided decent traction because it was older crunchy snow. The bad, lots of snow and some icy descents. It was still a great ride. I rarely had to get off my bike because the snow and the ground seemed solid enough that it wasn't destroying the trail. On a side note, the trail might get worse as the day progresses, so if your going to make the trip you'd be better off doing it early. It was nice to get a quality ride somewhere other than the backbone for once. I can't hardly wait to be ridding Mill creek again...

    Leaving, I did see someone ridding the pump track and it looked to be pretty dry.

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    First time up to DBB today, what a great day and was very impressed w/the trail. Plenty for everyone, rocks, up and dn, switchbacks. They do a great job of trail maintenance also. Everyone I met was friendly, just a few bikes but I went pretty early.

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    question:

    can you connect DBB to the Horsetooth trails? If so, how and what is rideable up by Horsetooth.

    Thanks for helping out this JONG.

    durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr a google search answered that question. is blue sky dry? is it worth the ride to connect to Horsetooth?
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    Sunday, (02.24.08) Blue Sky was very muddy about a 1/2 mile from the North end. We turned around so we wouldn't tear up the trial. We rode DDB to Blue Sky (turned around at the mud) and back and Indian Summer as well and all were 99% dry.

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    Ginny Trail: Dry with several damp spots (not mud, just a little soft) several yards long. Beautiful. Get on it before the snow comes back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelninja
    Hall was in great shape on Sunday, all the way up to the bench. Dropping over the back side, there is still a large mud pit near the Antelope trail intersection, but then it's 98% dry up to the loop. The entrance to the loop looked like a mud-fest so I didn't attempt it.
    I was out early yesterday morning and when I hit the loop it was mostly frozen mud so decided to ride it. Haven't ridden it in many years and didn't recall exposure to sun. Anyway, I went counter clockwise, and turned out to be more mud than I had expected. I did manage to stay on the trail the whole way, but had to give it my all to spin up some of the gullies. Prediction for Saturday: it will still be fairly muddy in spots. I'd guess clockwise would be best but be prepared to walk up the shaded north facing part, it was still a few inches of snow on Thurs AM and will probably be a mudfest.

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    hall, friday afternoon, good up to the loop with the exception of the downhill from the first bench to antelope some 3-4 ft long mud sections. No new news really. The loop looked bad so I didn't do it.

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    bobcat

    So goin for a ride tomorrow (saturday) morning, and was thinking about heading out to bobcat ridge. Has anyone been out there recently? Is it dry?

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    Did Hall Friday. Same as the poster above me. We did about half of Antelope then decided to head back because it was almost kind of getting dark. A little bit of mud to get the bikes a little spotted but nothing really worth mentioning

    How is this the first time Ive ever done this trail? It is an absolute blast. Lots of pretty technical sections but nothing that is impossible to get up or down. Lots and lots of speed. I felt like I was hardly on my brakes at all. The climbs were not super steep and I never got the "Im gonna puke" feeling. It rivals Dakota Ridge for me as favorite front range trail. If only it werent an hour from Denver.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rontele
    question:

    can you connect DBB to the Horsetooth trails? If so, how and what is rideable up by Horsetooth.

    Thanks for helping out this JONG.

    durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr a google search answered that question. is blue sky dry? is it worth the ride to connect to Horsetooth?

    I am HOPING it is mostly dry, but I will be finding out shortly. As far as its worth.... it is a fairly quick, rolling trail with no technical sections; so mostly just a ride extender, connector. I am not sure there are many who would choose Blue Sky as a destination.

    There are a couple of off-shoots in Rim Rock / Coyote Ridge, and Indian Summer also. So with Devil's BBone, BS, Coyote/RimRock, Indian, and HTMP, there is probably more trail than would be possible in one day's ride. That said, Backbone and Horsetooth would be my main focus. Too bad it sounds like HTMP is still too messy to ride.

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    Pineridge--Ft. Collins

    For what it's worth. I just got off a little night ride at Pineridge, and the Timber trail is open and dry.

    I'm sure that will all change with the weather coming in...

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    Weekend Update

    It looks like Ft. Collins/Loveland didn't get the snow that areas south did. Some snow did fall in the foothills, but the ridges furthest east are dry. This means Devil's Backbone, Bluesky, Coyote Ridge and the lower trails at Horsetooth and Lory are dry. Also, Pineridge, Maxwell, Shoreline, and Michaud will be good.

    I drove to the parking lot of Bobcat this evening, and there is snow on the top third of the mountain as well as in the shady northern aspects. The upper parts of Horsetooth got snow as well. I would think that Bobcat is ridable, but Horsetooth hadn't dried out completely yet before the new snow.

    Saturday looks like good weather. Anyone else have trail info?

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    conditions

    Riding Bobcat tomorrow around 11 am ...i'll let you know....hopefully the wind will die down
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    Saturday 3/8/8 HTMP.

    Not worth it. Only went up HT side service road, Spring Creek, and Wathen, but there was a lot of mud and quite a few patches of snow yet to melt.

    I will wait a while before going back there. Stupid winter.

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    Funny, we went up the HTMP main lot side and I thought the conditions were pretty good. Definitely a few snowy patches, but Herrington was primo and the Tower Road was great up to just before the towers themselves. Didn't ride some of the trails you mentioned, but we were pleasantly surprised during our ride. Very little mud on my bike in the parking lot. I'm glad we went the way we did!

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    Rode DBB and BlueSky and Indian Summer and rimrock and some other stuff I can't remember today... conditions were excellent! First time riding those trails - it won't be my last... saw brg down there on a Sheep and VAHardtail rocking a full squish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truepatriot09
    Funny, we went up the HTMP main lot side and I thought the conditions were pretty good. Definitely a few snowy patches, but Herrington was primo and the Tower Road was great up to just before the towers themselves. Didn't ride some of the trails you mentioned, but we were pleasantly surprised during our ride. Very little mud on my bike in the parking lot. I'm glad we went the way we did!
    I have definately seen worse, but I was just saying that it isn't worth the trouble or a one day pass.

    I am just definately ready for summer

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    Rode Heil Saturday, and Hall Sunday.

    Heil was pretty muddy up top, and had patches down on the fire road. Enjoyable, but some mud holes were getting pretty beat up/rutted.

    Hall was nearly completely dry on Bitterbrush up to the bench, as in, I think there was one spot with damp dirt. On the switchback down to the second bench, it was muddy, but easily avoided. (to prevent rutting) I only went to the loop, as the y at nelson was definitely muddy, although I cant tell you how bad as I didnt ride it. Excellent ride up to that point though, glad to be back out there!

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    Avoid HTMP at least Wathan, its still a little sloppy and will be for the next couple of days there is still a fair amount of snow for the first section.

    Coyote Ridge was bone dry and loose, good riding

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    FC area Weekend Report (3/8, 3/9)
    Maxwell - dry
    Shoreline - dry
    Reservoir Ridge - dry
    West Valley (Lory) - wet spots in ravines, but drying fast
    Nomad (HTMP) - dry
    Blue Sky to Coyote - dry
    Coyote - dry

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    first time to Larimer, what to ride? + Hall report

    Quote Originally Posted by sgltrak
    FC area Weekend Report (3/8, 3/9)
    Maxwell - dry
    Shoreline - dry
    Reservoir Ridge - dry
    West Valley (Lory) - wet spots in ravines, but drying fast
    Nomad (HTMP) - dry
    Blue Sky to Coyote - dry
    Coyote - dry
    Was thinking of heading up to Larimer this weekend. Any recommendations for a first timer looking for technical. Coyote/Devil's Backbone/Blue Sky Area, HTMP, or put the 2 together? What would be a good 4 hour, 25 mile or so ride with technical?

    Hall report: Only a few wet spots left on Nelson loop when I rode today. Antelope just has one wet section. Bitterbrush is bone dry. All can be easily ridden with minimal trail impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geeride7
    Was thinking of heading up to Larimer this weekend. Any recommendations for a first timer looking for technical. Coyote/Devil's Backbone/Blue Sky Area, HTMP, or put the 2 together? What would be a good 4 hour, 25 mile or so ride with technical?
    For technical, Backbone and the upper Coyote loop. You can connect them with Blue Sky. To add mileage, do Indian Summer (between DBB and Coyote). For more mileage, continue north on Blue Sky from Coyote to HTMP and Lory. It would be just for the mileage, however, as Blue Sky north is pretty smooth single track and the stuff in HTMP / Lory is still pretty wet above the valley.

    If you haven't had enough, you could drive over to Bobcat Ridge and ride Ginny out and back. It is about 5 or 6 miles each way to Mahoney Park.

    There is also some pretty fun stuff on the front side of Horsetooth Reservoir with a little technical mixed in: Maxwell / Shoreline / Foothills / Michaud. From the Maxwell parking lot, this is roughly 10 miles each way out and back.

    Another option with some technical is to loop Crozier, but I haven't been up there in a while, so couldn't give conditions.

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