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    Colorado's beach was nice today... (pics)

    ... since it was ~64 degrees down there. There being Pueblo, of course.


    It was a small group this time. Only Icegeek, ...


    ... nomad_rdr, ...


    ... and myself (photo credit to David Morse)


    My botched attempt at repeating his work. I should know better.


    Icegeek testing a mini tranny


    Rock Canyon rewards those who look around for alternate lines. Icegeek testing an oldy, but goody.


    nomad_rdr searching hidden lines


    Peublo's most photographed feature: the Keyhole. Icegeek threading it


    nomad_rdr showing off perfect Keyhole form


    A slightly different line (Photo credit to David Morse)


    Circus monkeys hard at work (Photo credit to David Morse)


    nomad_rdr doing what he has become great at (nice form, BTW)


    Icegeek on Staircase, Steap and Tech's little sister


    nomad_rdr cleaning it


    a typical Pueblo day
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    The memory of warm sun shininig on my face is going to pull me through the work week. What a great January day.

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    Nice!!!!

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    Looks like the riders had alot of fun today. However, I can't help but notice that some of the pictures taken show riders riding off of the trail (like in Rock Canyon). We are under an agreement with the state park and BOR to stay on the designated trails. Keyhole is not meant to be ridden on top of because the rock out there erodes quickly and is easily broken. There are many archeological sites and fragile vegetation on the bluffs above the arroyos. We love the fact that people are coming to ride Lake Pueblo, but would appreciate if riders stayed on the trails. We have a public forum coming up and if this kind of riding continues it could jeopardize our trails program. Thanks for your cooperation in advance.

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    Stay on the trails. Don't ruin it for the rest of us!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muff
    Stay on the trails. Don't ruin it for the rest of us!!!
    Not sure where I see the problem. Where were these guys causing issues for the mountain biking community?
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    The issue is the trails are not just for MTN bikers. This is a multi use trail system. There are certain things that the local trail group has to abide by in order to have the priviledge to ride on this state land. Furthermore, it is respecting the HARD WORK the locals do to keep the area open and sustainable to all users. That is the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muff
    The issue is the trails are not just for MTN bikers. This is a multi use trail system. There are certain things that the local trail group has to abide by in order to have the priviledge to ride on this state land. Furthermore, it is respecting the HARD WORK the locals do to keep the area open and sustainable to all users. That is the issue.
    Thanks! THANKS A LOT! THANK YOU SO FRREAKKING MUCH! I CANNN'T THANNKKK YOU ENOUGH!!!!



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    pueblo is the new apex


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    That doesn't answer the question

    Quote Originally Posted by Muff
    The issue is the trails are not just for MTN bikers. This is a multi use trail system. There are certain things that the local trail group has to abide by in order to have the priviledge to ride on this state land. Furthermore, it is respecting the HARD WORK the locals do to keep the area open and sustainable to all users. That is the issue.
    Hooray for the local advocates! Good job. Thanks for the hard work.

    I guess I don't understand why there's a burr under your saddle. Isn't the HARD WORK supposed to support trail usage? These guys look like they're having a blast and I don't see what's got your all worked up, it looks like trail to me.

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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! the issue

    All we need is for another trail user to show up to our public forum with pictures of mtb's doing alternate routes and creating spurs. We have worked hard for 6 years to get to this point and we don't need it ruined. We have had issues with other trail users in the past and have been able to resolve them. What we don't need is to give them any ammo to get us restricted from this area. I think our trails offer quite a few techinical sections that riders don't need to create new illegal ones. Also we are planning in the future to possibly develop a terrain/freeride area but this could be impacted by this trail misuse.

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    Seems to me that "Staying on the Trails" is an official given. Don't post photos at least seems pretty reasonable. Beyond that we are all grown ups and should be able to figure it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nOOby
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    Guess I'll chime in. My apologies to the trail builders. I did not know that the keyhole was not meant to be rode through. I thought that was the whole point of the Keyhole trail. I now know bettter. As for Rock Canyon again I was riding established trails, or so I thought. No disrespect to the trail builders was intended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomad rdr
    Guess I'll chime in. My apologies to the trail builders. I did not know that the keyhole was not meant to be rode through. I thought that was the whole point of the Keyhole trail. I now know bettter. As for Rock Canyon again I was riding established trails, or so I thought. No disrespect to the trail builders was intended.
    You can ride thru Keyhole. Too fragile to ride across, on top

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    Quote Originally Posted by hairylegs
    Hooray for the local advocates! Good job. Thanks for the hard work.

    I guess I don't understand why there's a burr under your saddle. Isn't the HARD WORK supposed to support trail usage? These guys look like they're having a blast and I don't see what's got your all worked up, it looks like trail to me.
    The goal is to have fun and ride your heart out. But, after working with three federal agencies and at one point being threatened to have the entire area turned into a "firing range", I don't want to see this happen. Countless hours have been spent out there building trails and building relationships with other trail users (most don't even want mtn bikers out there). So, if people see it as getting a "burr" under my saddle, well so be it. I've ridden these trails for 17 years and I plan to ride them for at least 17 more.

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    I rode out there for the first time today. Awesome trail network, nice work down there fellas. It was soooo nice to get on some dirt.

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    I guess we are a little protective of our area. I have spent countless hours in meetings trying to make this area viable and we are so close to getting it approved it is scary. I have witnessed other areas closed to mtb's and have fought to keep this area open. We just need your help and a little time. Most of the lines you rode in the pics were OK and built by us but lines off the top of the rim are not. I know it may be hard to tell because other riders may have peeled off there and started a new line. Just keep in mind if it is on hard surfaces its usually OK, if it not a well established line, soft and shale/soil are sloughing off, it usually is not. We really do want everyone to enjoy this area, just work with us and we can create something special. If you have ideas on the trails, blog in and let us know. Our web site should be up it a couple weeks so you can respond to our club. This will help us in our future plans and give the powers that be valuable input.

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    Ozzie and Muff, you both bring up some good points. While I did not see any issue riding those lines at the time, especially the stone sections, I do see where you both are coming from and understand your investment in that trail system. I cannot change where I have already ridden, but I can change what I will ride the future. Next time I am down that way I will be more conscientious of what lines are ok and what lines should be left untraveled. I apologize for the slip up.

    Hope to ride with you guys down there someday.

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    Nice pictures Nickle. Man, that Ventana sure does get around!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    Ozzie and Muff, you both bring up some good points. While I did not see any issue riding those lines at the time, especially the stone sections, I do see where you both are coming from and understand your investment in that trail system. I cannot change where I have already ridden, but I can change what I will ride the future. Next time I am down that way I will be more conscientious of what lines are ok and what lines should be left untraveled. I apologize for the slip up.

    Hope to ride with you guys down there someday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edemtbs
    Pffft, way to kill a thread Nickle; civility, humility, respect and maturity....

    Agreed. There's no place for that in this internet!
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    Ozzie and Muff, I'll ride anywhere I d@#m well please.

    Hope to ride with you guys down there someday.

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    OK, fixed... now flame on

    Nickle, I like your pic better than IG's (sorry IG )... better sense of action. I'll have to make it down to Pueblo sometime this winter I guess, looks like fun.
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    Pueblo? never heard of it

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    You guys are tooo! radical for me I had a total knee replaced with cadaver grafts lastay so I'm stuck to the rollers like Voodoo, but some of my riding buddies like Wilbury 1 and Muff would be OK to "huck" up with.

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    Hey Nickle and Nomad rdr

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    While I did not see any issue riding those lines at the time, especially the stone sections, I do see where you both are coming from and understand your investment in that trail system. I cannot change where I have already ridden, but I can change what I will ride the future. Next time I am down that way I will be more conscientious of what lines are ok and what lines should be left untraveled. I apologize for the slip up.



    -Nicholas
    Dudes- please accept my heartfelt apology for going all LOCO yesterday. I got a call from Ozzie today and he felt I was... a little overkill.... He also wanted to know if I was holding anyone hostage or if I was holed up somewhere with a years worth of food and ammo. Anyway, please don't let my bad manners deter you from visiting the great trails here.

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    No worries, Muff. If you put enough time and effort into the local trails, they easily become your trails. When you see tourists tromping around on everything that you worked so hard to establish, it's easy to get defensive. I think I've probably done the same thing with these local trails, and I have made much less contribution to them. So no harm done.

    I'd still like to ride with you local folks sometime. Maybe we can put a ride together in the future.
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    Enough of all this reasonableness!
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muff

    Dudes- please accept my heartfelt apology for going all LOCO yesterday. I got a call from Ozzie today and he felt I was... a little overkill.... He also wanted to know if I was holding anyone hostage or if I was holed up somewhere with a years worth of food and ammo. Anyway, please don't let my bad manners deter you from visiting the great trails here.
    Please remembewr that THIS IS an OPEN forum. Though you may never see them post here, USFS and State Park/Forest officials do visit here from time to time. Just be a little conscious of what you post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzers
    Please remembewr that THIS IS an OPEN forum. Though you may never see them post here, USFS and State Park/Forest officials do visit here from time to time. Just be a little conscious of what you post.

    You mean my tax dollars go to pay folk to sit around, drink coffee/beer and surf the internet? THAT'S AN OUTRAGE!


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    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    Um, I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed.... I guess I don't understand what you're getting at?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muff
    Um, I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed.... I guess I don't understand what you're getting at?!
    I don't understand half of what he posts either .

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    Quote Originally Posted by athalliah
    I don't understand half of what he posts either .
    One third here on a good day. Half if I really think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickle
    One third here on a good day. Half if I really think about it.
    i thought it was just me.

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    Thanks guys and gal, I feel better!!!!

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    Excellent Shot

    The shot tagged "a slighlty different line" is outstanding. Perhaps a good candidate for a the monthly rider shots published by Dirt Rag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nOOby
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    So, does that mean we can start shuttling it
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    If he goes on for more than about two lines I typically don't bother reading it.
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    I honestly thought the photo of the rider on top of the keyhole was a photoshop job.....

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    nope
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by weimie
    I honestly thought the photo of the rider on top of the keyhole was a photoshop job.....
    ooooo...burn.

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    Isn't that what ALL of IG's photos are created in PhotoShop?

    ooooo... double burn. :P

    If there's one thing I know about photography, it's that worst thing you can say to any photographer is that they are good at Photoshop.
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    Hey what kind of camera did you use?

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    I meant no disrespect

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    Quote Originally Posted by athalliah
    Hey what kind of camera did you use?
    A Holga. Can't you tell?
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
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    ha....i had go google manpris

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