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    Celebrate the Winter Solstice in Monument Ride 12/22/11

    We're going to meet at the lower Preserve trailhead at the corner of Mt. Herman Rd and Nursery Rd in Monument. This will be the 5th or 6th Monument celebration of the Solstice ride in a row (summer and winter). It usually ends up being a fairly large group, and there will be an appropriate amount of celebrating so dress warmer than you normally would for the conditions. The pace is a no-one-gets-left-behind pace, but if we have a large enough group, we'll split off into a hammerhead group and a slower group.

    Obviously, bring trail riding lights and warm clothing. The conditions are likely to be snow packed trails and temps in the 20s, but it's way to early to say for sure. If you're coming, check on this thread in the afternoon on that day and make sure everything is still a go weather wise.

    If we have folks driving down from up north, it probably makes sense to have a later meeting time of 6:30pm to give a little more time (shoot, anyone driving up from the Springs probably needs that too based on the I-25 traffic lately).

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    I'm out since I will be in Michigan. I hope the weather cooperates for you.

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    Im in like flin, I think Joe needs to go have a chat with the guy that own the brew house up there and see if they want to stay open and "host" us for some drinking after party in somewhere WARM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    Im in like flin, I think Joe needs to go have a chat with the guy that own the brew house up there and see if they want to stay open and "host" us for some drinking after party in somewhere WARM.
    Yes, I would love to be able to enjoy a nice warm brewery after the ride instead of a freezing parking lot.

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    I plan on doing Zone 5 interval training till then and will be rocking an 18lb carbon rocketship, oh yeah, IT'S ON!!!!!!!!!!

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    You make me laugh

    I'm gonna use this quote in the future.

    I plan on doing Zone 5 interval training till then and will be rocking an 18lb carbon rocketship, oh yeah, IT'S ON!!!!!!!!!!

    And yes I will talk to them, if it won't work then I will let you know, hopefully the snow hold off and temp stay cold. Spoke with PBR couple weeks ago about this as well, hope the Denver crew makes it down, will be a good time as always.

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    hell yeah i'm in for this! becca will be outta town unfortunately... hopefully we can get a big ole group going that'd be sweet

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    It was way too cold last time I came, I just don't have the proper gear for such an adventure.
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    You guys do know there is this phenomena known as sunlight. It appears normally during the DAYLIGHT hours. It is great for riding under and it also provides a certain level of WARMTH that is generally appealing. It in no way inhibits the ability to consume malty beverages before, during or after a ride.

    You guys should try it sometime...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonvelocity View Post
    It was way too cold last time I came, I just don't have the proper gear for such an adventure.
    Sure you do. I rode Cap'n Jacks at 20 degrees last Wednesday in the following (don't diss my ghetto setup):

    Core:
    1 long sleeve bike jersey under
    1 old Dainese Safety Jacket under
    1 long sleeve tie dye t-shirt
    I also used a thin windproof vest on the downhill

    Legs:
    lycra shorts under
    cheap tights from Costco under
    khaki shorts from Target with
    knee and shin pads

    Feet:
    wicking bike socks under
    rag wool socks under
    plastic newspaper bags
    in 5.10 shoes

    Hands:
    ordinary fleece gloves from Costco (2 pairs--one to get sweaty on the climbs and a second so they were dry for the downhill)

    I also had a spare fleece and a pair of ski gloves in my camelbak in case anyone got cold (a good idea for winter night riding). My other trick is to keep a pair of latex surgical gloves in my camelbak. They are water proof and quite warm if I need extra warmth for my hands.

    Riding in the cold doesn't require anything special or expensive--just the determination to get off the couch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kchri View Post
    You guys do know there is this phenomena known as sunlight. It appears normally during the DAYLIGHT hours. It is great for riding under and it also provides a certain level of WARMTH that is generally appealing. It in no way inhibits the ability to consume malty beverages before, during or after a ride.

    You guys should try it sometime...

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    That cycleachluophobic guy...
    seems like everyone can't do much daylight riding other than weekends
    i'm usually open for a sunny daytime ride (but my schedule is more flexible than most)

    pm me if u plan on riding in the springs, stuff usually happens short notice too

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    Quote Originally Posted by kristian View Post
    Sure you do. I rode Cap'n Jacks at 20 degrees last Wednesday in the following (don't diss my ghetto setup):

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    Riding in the cold doesn't require anything special or expensive--just the determination to get off the couch.
    I wont diss your set up but you did look fn huge wearing your safety jacket.

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    Ouch, the gauntlet has been thrown!

    I will have to take some of your ideas and test them before I show up all cold and embarrassed.
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    I'm thinking about making the trek down from Denver. I've never ridden these trails, are they considered singlespeed friendly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopsalot View Post
    I'm thinking about making the trek down from Denver. I've never ridden these trails, are they considered singlespeed friendly?
    OH they are Stoopid fun and SS friendly!
    (wasnt last week ss friendly)


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    Quote Originally Posted by hopsalot View Post
    I'm thinking about making the trek down from Denver. I've never ridden these trails, are they considered singlespeed friendly?
    Before I got the Shinobi, I usually rode my Unit there. Most of the climbs are either flowy, or dirt road climbs so you'll be fine if conditions are dry. There are a few climbs that I usually ended up walking on, but not many. I'm not sure if you're running a suspension fork or not, but some of the trails are on the rocky side. Personally, I dig riding the rigid there, but other people would probably disagree.

    That being said, I suck at climbing in the snow on my SS so that might be a consideration if you're in the same boat and conditions are snow packed (which is obviously too early to tell). I find it really hard to keep momentum up in the snow without breaking traction...

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    FYI i road in Monument last Saturday....on my fat bike. Trails are snow covered pretty good. I road up Mt Herman road (was set as single speed...38t x 16) and choose to ride down Cool runnings. I ride this stuff normally on a 6" rig....don't think I'd take a normal MTB on the trails right now with the snow as it is. I'm more capable rider than many, and the fat bike was a bit tough in some places (gear choice factor excluded).

    just an FYI. Note a few of us fat bike guys will be at La Casa Fiesta around 2pm Sunday drinking margs after our ride
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    Thanks, this helps. I'm leaning towards riding my half fat single speed and packing a thermos of hot buttered rum.

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    Guess a trail update is in order

    Rode there yesterday and here is my opinion. All the lower park that has seen heavy traffic will be perfect, off the trail is 5" of fluff that is like riding in sand. Temps in for Northern El Paso have been colder than normal for December which means the snow has not melted. This has caused a very unique feature which is the snow even packed is soft on the climbs, breaks loose and stops forward momentum, so at this point I am hoping for warmer temps so the trails firm up at night. All the higher stuff like Black Pearl will not be part of the route as of now, but within the lower preserve we will be able to get 8-12 miles with moderate to difficult climbs, I plan on keeping us off the road so all of Stoopid trail is off the list.
    The Friends of Monument Preserve (FOMP) have been working hard the last couple years getting trails improved for all users (close to 56 miles of trails during the summer) so with that said, I guarantee that unless we get a total dump in the next week this ride will be SS friendly, with a great selection of tech and flow, no need for full suspension unless that's all you have, like me.

    I spoke with the owners of Pikes Peak Brew and they will more than happy to stay as long as we have a crowd, nice fire place, good food and some of the best Micro Brew in Colorado, so with that said our ride should be from 6-8:30 then down to the Pub.

    I will ride the entire route on Tues next week and post up a final report, if its gonna be iffy I will let you all know, looking forward to this years solstice ride, always a fun time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOEMTBR COLORADO View Post
    I spoke with the owners of Pikes Peak Brew and they will more than happy to stay as long as we have a crowd, nice fire place, good food and some of the best Micro Brew in Colorado, so with that said our ride should be from 6-8:30 then down to the Pub.
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    The meeting time is at 6:30 this week Joe to give anyone coming down from Denver a little more time. Please plan on that when you're talking to the brewery.

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    I understand the start time but!

    Do you think we can set a wheels on the trail time as 6:30? If we meet at 6:30 start time is usually closer to 7 and that will cut our drinking time, don't want to do that do we?

    For those coming from Denver, I can usually be to the Apex parking lot in 1:05ish depending on traffic and lead in Right Foot. fyi

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    The meeting time is at 6:30 this week Joe to give anyone coming down from Denver a little more time. Please plan on that when you're talking to the brewery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOEMTBR COLORADO View Post
    Do you think we can set a wheels on the trail time as 6:30? If we meet at 6:30 start time is usually closer to 7 and that will cut our drinking time, don't want to do that do we?

    For those coming from Denver, I can usually be to the Apex parking lot in 1:05ish depending on traffic and lead in Right Foot. fyi
    Don't forget the fact that this is a large group ride. If we're rolling before 6:45 I'd be surprised. If that doesn't work for the brewery, then we need to ditch that plan. I would rather have a decent ride than be forced to cut things short just to drink when we could just as easily drink in the parking lot.

    Anyone driving down from Denver should expect evening traffic to be different than weekend traffic since half of Colorado Springs is now employed in Denver...

    (Besides, I will need to run home to retrieve the front wheel that I'm going to forget ).

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    ok

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    I think the denver folks need to speak for the denver folks that are coming down. So far Its one in and two maybes. If they cant make wheels down and riding by 630 then please speak up. I for one do enjoy riding some nice trail in the cold but i figure 2 hours ( with wheels down at 630) is plenty so I can go warm up inside and enjoy what Joe has set up for us. Or for those that would rather ride longer and be cold drinking beer in a parking lot they can do that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    I think the denver folks need to speak for the denver folks that are coming down. So far Its one in and two maybes. If they cant make wheels down and riding by 630 then please speak up. I for one do enjoy riding some nice trail in the cold but i figure 2 hours ( with wheels down at 630) is plenty so I can go warm up inside and enjoy what Joe has set up for us. Or for those that would rather ride longer and be cold drinking beer in a parking lot they can do that too.

    Understand completely - i will try and get some definite's in or outs! we'll discuss after the t.i.t.s. ride and let ya know- i say set a time and that is what it is.

    spoke with joe this eve and sounds like good times as always and sounds like the beer is good too!
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    Winter Solstice => Wednesday, December 21, 2011 at 10:30 PM in Colorado Springs

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    Quote Originally Posted by pastajet View Post
    Winter Solstice => Wednesday, December 21, 2011 at 10:30 PM in Colorado Springs
    Well, I guess we're going to be a day late then...

    Regarding the start time, I'm fine with a 6:30 wheels on the ground time if everyone is able to make that work from up north (assuming you guys can make it). If the northern contingent isn't able to come, we could do the usual 6:00 for all I care unless there are objections.

    Post up if you're coming, and make sure you have contact info for either Joe or I in case you're running late, or get lost.

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    Kristian I'm pretty sure your solstice date is correct, it's on the 22nd.
    I'm a maybe at this point, I hope to make it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pastajet View Post
    Winter Solstice => Wednesday, December 21, 2011 at 10:30 PM in Colorado Springs
    Your correct going from UTC time minus 7 hours, But seeing as how we all celebrate new years at midnight in our time zone not when Russia hits midnight So I figure our riding on the night of the 22 is just as good as saying happy new year at midnight in our timezone. So I think we are in the clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    Your correct going from UTC time minus 7 hours, But seeing as how we all celebrate new years at midnight in our time zone not when Russia hits midnight So I figure our riding on the night of the 22 is just as good as saying happy new year at midnight in our timezone. So I think we are in the clear.
    Exactly! Besides, the point of this ride is to celebrate that the days are going to get longer, and we'll already be celebrating on the upward swing .

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    PBR said he's definitely in on last night's ride and there was definitely interest from other folks as well. I need to run it past the LBG (my Traveling Companion™) and let her know what's up. She'll likely not come down, but I'm leaning towards a YES. I can likely boogie outta work ~4:30 and make whatever start time is necessary, but it didn't sound like the other cats would be able to cut loose much before 5. Hopefully we can make it and have 'em wheels down in time.

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    Ouch, the gauntlet has been thrown!

    I will have to take some of your ideas and test them before I show up all cold and embarrassed.
    Especially if you're is gonna show up... it'll be fun to heckle you on pedal-y bikes, not just my normal heckling of you on downhill-y bikes.
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    Does anyone have a light I could borrow? It just occurred to me I am completely unprepared.
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    I am sorry that I have not committed to this yet...

    I really, really want/am trying to figure out a way to come down for this ride.

    Having trouble finding a big enough shovel do dig myself out of the doghouse at home!


    If either myself /PBRme!/or both come down for this we will have extra lights.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonvelocity View Post
    Does anyone have a light I could borrow? It just occurred to me I am completely unprepared.
    I'm not gonna be able to make this ride so you can borrow mine if you need to Jason, I have a pair of Amoebas for the helmet and bar. You will need a piece of velcro(furry side) on your helmet and you will be good to go, and maybe a six pack

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder View Post
    ...and maybe a six pack
    Six pack? He's got a keg! Wait... what?
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    I really just need to buy one, and oddly, my girl agrees. When will you offer the purple anno model?
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    Bump up! I hope scar will make you some Jason.


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    Originally posted by jasonvelocity
    When will you offer the purple anno model?
    Sorry , no plans for purple yet.

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    Bump up! I hope scar will make you some Jason.
    Jason, by all means I will make you up something. Shoot me an email (see my signature) and we can figure out what you want. Don't forget you got a credit coming for your rental earlier!


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    This snow should add some fun too the ride on Thursday and there is more coming according to the weather guessers. Should be a fun time.

    So did we decided on " wheels down" at 630 or meet at 630?


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    You guys are gonna need fat bikes after yesterday's 4" and Thurs 3-6"

    I will be snowshoeing hopefully

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    Nah, it willbe fun. We rode jacks just fine with that much snow ( you were there)


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    you need to ride

    Should be a good time. I am gonna ride the route tomorrow and post up a report, looking at the track of the next storm I am not expecting much from that.

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    You guys are gonna need fat bikes after yesterday's 4" and Thurs 3-6"

    I will be snowshoeing hopefully

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    denial, not just a river in Egypt......

    "The national weather service in pueblo has issued a winter
    weather advisory for snow and blowing snow...which is in effect
    from 5 pm this afternoon to 5 pm mst thursday. The winter storm
    watch is no longer in effect.

    * location...teller county and northern el paso county.

    * cause and timing...a winter storm system will move across the
    rockies tonight and thursday...sending a cold front through the
    eastern plains. This will produce a period of light to moderate
    snowfall over the pikes peak region and palmer divide.

    * snow accumulation...accumulations of 6 to 12 inches across
    teller county...with 5 to 9 inches across northern el paso
    county."

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder View Post
    denial, not just a river in Egypt......
    Yeah, this might not be the best ride for the Denver crew to come down for if the prognosticators are correct (which they rarely are).

    The nice thing about Monument is that we can ride up the road in someone's tracks (there is always someone who wants to drive up and play in the snow) and then ride down trails.

    Seriously though, if there for some reason really ends up being too much snow to ride, I'm up for a snow shoe, and I have a pair to lend.

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    My only though

    Like I said, I am gonna ride the route today and see how conditions are, as for the storm coming in tonight I am throwing you my weather nazi guess.

    The storm is coming out of the N.W with temps dropping quickly, in my limited time on the Palmer Divide these seem to turn out as storms that almost, but never pay off. The colder it gets the less it will snow and being on the South side of the divide we will see less accumulation, instead of guessing and scaring people lets wait till tomorrow and I will post what actually happened then make our decision from there, fair enough.

    As for snow shoeing, I am game and can bring 2 extra pair if needed, until tomorrow.

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    Hey guys, I'm not going to be able to make it from Denver. Caught myself some sort of nasty bug and can't seem to shake it, I don't think playing in the cold snow (as much fun as it sounds) is gonna be good for me. Not sure if the other guys are still in or not, PBR might know.
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    Sorry, but I am going to have to bail on this ride

    I was really looking forward to coming down and hitting the trails with the Springs crew for the Winter Solstice ride in Monument tomorrow night, but due to the weather forcast, I am staying up north. On a good day when the streets are dry and the traffic is flowing, it usually takes me 1 1/2hrs to get from my house in Brighton down to the Springs. Don't even want to know how long it might take in a snow storm.

    Hope you guys are able to hit the trails. The FIFO crew did our Winter Solsitce ride this morning, was a great time. I am expecting to see pictures, or it didn't happen.



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    If we get this snow we will never make it from Denver with traffic, but I'm thinking about bringing a bike and heading over to IW for a quick trip up Green Mountain.

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