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    Buffalo Creek (Pine, CO) route recommendations?

    I just relocated to the Denver/Boulder area I have a few days before I start working. I road Betasso monday, Heil Valley from the Picture Rock trailhead tuesday, and Flatirons Vista/Doudy Draw/Marshal Mesa are yesterday. I took today off to be productive around my new apartment but tomorrow I'd like to check out Buffalo Creek. Since there are trails all over I was hoping to get some input on a good route. I'm on a 1X10 hardtail and coming from living at 500' of elevation, something in the 2 hour range with out any crazy death climbs would be greatly appreciated.
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    Buff creek trail head parking lot, to Shinglemill, to Morrison Creek, to Gashouse, to Charlies cut off, sandy wash. A good fun loop

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    Where would I be able to find detailed info on where the trailhead is? I'm having a hard time tracking that info down. All I could find is this map but it doesn't show parking

    Front Range Mountain Bike Patrol | Maps Page

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    You can park several places for Buff Creek. Pine Valley open space is he first one you come to going south on CR 126. That gives you access to Buck Gulch and Strawberry Jack.

    Go a few miles further wesy and you'll come to the town Buffalo Creek. Turn off onto FR 523 and that gets you to Sandy Wash, Shinglemill, Morrison Creek, etc.

    Go further still on CR 126 and you can park at Little Scraggly which is where the Colorado trail is.

    There are other TH on the West side of the area that you can get to via Bailey.

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    Stop in at a LBS. There is a real nice map out there with Buff Creek on one side and Indian Creek on the other.

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    Fr 543 not 523

    That is a great place to start !
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    Link to map

    Here is a link to a map of Buffalo Creek:

    Front Range Mountain Bike Patrol | Maps Page

    Note: This map doesn't show the new connector trail "Nice Kitty" which connects Sandy Wash to Buffalo Burn.

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    I like climbing Buck Gulch, over to Charlies, left to Rasperry Ridge/Blackjack (skip if you aren't into technical riding), down Sandy right to Gashouse down Strawberry..

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    Park at the small pullout where the CT crosses Hwy126 > go up the CT> Right, Buffalo Burn>Right, CT> Right, Shingle mill> Right on 543 > Right, go up Nice kitty.(Its new and not on the map, this will take you up to buffalo burn, go left on buffalo burn to get back to the car.)

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    http://coloradotrailblazers.org/wp-c...te-8-18-12.jpg
    The only map of nice Kitty I can find.

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    I'm a firm believer in always parking at the bottom, so that you finish on a descent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lubes17319 View Post
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    I'm a firm believer in always parking at the bottom, so that you finish on a descent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lubes17319 View Post
    543 lot
    i'm a firm believer in always parking at the bottom, so that you finish on a descent.

    +1....

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    Can someone give an overview of the new trail, nice kitty?

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    From the Buff creek parking lot,Trail head, it is to the left just past the first gate. You will see the trail there. As others have said, much better going up it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eggdog View Post
    From the Buff creek parking lot,Trail head, it is to the left just past the first gate. You will see the trail there. As others have said, much better going up it.
    That's what I feel as-well. On Nice kitty, there a few sections that are fun going down, but for me, Shingle mill is so much better/fun for the descent. Nice kitty just doesn't flow all that well in a lot of sections. Maybe those better lines will wear in over time.

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    nice kitty

    I finally got some recon on Nice Kitty. I ended up doing it both ways and the views on the descent really caught me off guard. I'm not used to big sweeping views at BC, not sure why, maybe I never look up. It is a great connector, thanks to all that put time/effort into it. For the OP, favorite loop for short mileage is from 543 lot, up 543 to Baldy/Charlies/Sandy back to car - about 15 miles I think. Longer loop from 543 lot, up Nice Kitty/CT/Redskin Creek/Gashouse/Charlies/Sandy Wash back to car. Probably 25ish miles? Don't miss Blackjack if you like technical riding.

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    Sounds like you have a lot of good choices, I'll add one more. There are still a bunch of trails I haven't ridden yet

    Start at Park at Pine Valley Ranch, which is about 6 miles east of the Pine Junction intersection of 285 & 126.

    Ride Narrow Gauge Trail (starts at the bathroom) to the 2nd bridge (1st bridge is right at the bathroom), left over the bridge and then stay right. Follow to the intersection of Buck Gulch & Strawberry Jack. Follow Buck Gulch (right fork) Up Up Up Up Up to Skipper. Left on Skipper to the 4-way intersection with Homestead & Strawberry Jack. Turn right here until you see the sign for Charlie's Cutoff (this could be the most fun in the whole park, but it is all pretty damn good). Left onto Charlie's cutoff. At the bottom of Charlie's, turn right onto Homestead, continue past stream crossing and trail turns into Sandy Wash. Plan to change your underwear if you have any on because you've had so much fun up to this point and will be having lots more. Continue on Sandy Wash to the forest road and turn right. Go about 2 miles on the forest road to Shinglemill on the left. Here's a fun climb. Go about 2 miles to a right turn onto Morrison Creek back to the forest road. Turn left to continue on the forest road. Just ahead, maybe 1/2 mile on right is access to Baldy & Gashouse. Go up a couple hundred yards to the junction of Baldy & Gashouse. Take either one up (Gashouse is longer, less steep & more fun - Baldy is shorter, steeper & more fun). Yes, they are both more fun. When you get to the top intersection of Baldy & Gashouse...on gashouse keep going straight, baldy, go right to Miller Gulch. Right onto MIller Gulch, then quick left on Homestead. Holy Cow, what do you know, you're back to the top of Charlie's Cutoff...YEAH!!! Right on Charlies...again!!! Left at the bottom on Homestead....back to the 4-way intersection with Homestead. Right to Strawberry Jack at the 4-way and then back to Pine Valley Ranch Park...about 26 miles. Man, it was fun just writing this up.

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    I parked at the lot off Buffalo Creek starting from there I went down Buffalo Creek, left on Shinglemill, right on Colorado Trail, right onto Redskin Creek, right on Gashouse, left on Baldy, right onto Miller Gulch, first left then first right onto Charlies Cutoff, merge right onto Sandy Wash and take it back to Buffalo Creek Road, take a left and the lot is down the road.

    Awesome ride, I was not expecting 3800+ feet of climbing, it was a rough ride but the trail was great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan The VW Tech View Post
    I parked at the lot off Buffalo Creek starting from there I went down Buffalo Creek, left on Shinglemill, right on Colorado Trail, right onto Redskin Creek, right on Gashouse, left on Baldy, right onto Miller Gulch, first left then first right onto Charlies Cutoff, merge right onto Sandy Wash and take it back to Buffalo Creek Road, take a left and the lot is down the road.

    Awesome ride, I was not expecting 3800+ feet of climbing, it was a rough ride but the trail was great!
    Thats one of my favorite loops in BC! You really can't go wrong there...
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    Anyone know if these trails are clear right now?

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    Hey cytoe, it's Andy - talked to you briefly at the Thankspinning ride about lights, Scar, etc.

    These trails are great to ride pretty much year round, and should be really good right now.
    Someone else will probably chime in that actually knows within the past day or 2, but they are mostly decomposed granite, so they hold up great with a little moisture.
    Watch out for any lurking/hidden ice patches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIANTkiller View Post
    ...Watch out for any lurking/hidden ice patches.
    ...and coyotes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lubes17319 View Post
    ...and coyotes.
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    Coyotes??

    Did I just hear coyotes? CRAP! I got get outta here!!!!


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    Buffalo Creek Gashouse trailhead.

    Uhhh, clear all year? Really? There was about 6" on most every trail. I could see this area being snow packed from October 31- May 1 every year. That sucked.

    PS: So we bailed on Buffalo Creek and went to Deer Creek... disappointing again. After maybe 200 yards "clear" trail, the entire ride from then on was snow packed. But that wasn't bad. That trail is boring. Great views, but zero tech (beyond the wall) and textbook 101 trail building (sidewalk width, story-board tread angle and no tech) . But maybe I am just bitter after 4.5 hours of driving for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIANTkiller View Post
    Hey cytoe, it's Andy - talked to you briefly at the Thankspinning ride about lights, Scar, etc.

    These trails are great to ride pretty much year round, and should be really good right now.
    Someone else will probably chime in that actually knows within the past day or 2, but they are mostly decomposed granite, so they hold up great with a little moisture.
    Watch out for any lurking/hidden ice patches.
    I wouldn't call BC year round riding at all. This year has been pretty extraordinary as far as lack of snow. Generally you can stick a fork in it by mid - late November until mid - late March at the earliest. Of course it all depends on the year, but year round? If it's year round then there are going to be some serious water/drought issues.

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    Yea sorry about that. Not sure what I was thinking when I said "great to ride pretty much year round".

    I think this winter so far has skewed my normally clear thinking.

    What I probably meant was the trails there hold up better than most when moisture is involved.

    I owe you, mtn hack - SORRY!

    I did say "Someone else will probably chime in that actually knows within the past day or 2".
    And from that pic it looks like they must have gotten quite a bit from that last storm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtn hack View Post
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    PS: So we bailed on Buffalo Creek and went to Deer Creek... disappointing again. After maybe 200 yards "clear" trail, the entire ride from then on was snow packed. But that wasn't bad. That trail is boring. Great views, but zero tech (beyond the wall) and textbook 101 trail building (sidewalk width, story-board tread angle and no tech) . But maybe I am just bitter after 4.5 hours of driving for that.
    Have you considered moving to the North Shore? It sounds like Colorado may not be for you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIANTkiller View Post
    Yea sorry about that. Not sure what I was thinking when I said "great to ride pretty much year round".

    I think this winter so far has skewed my normally clear thinking.

    What I probably meant was the trails there hold up better than most when moisture is involved.

    I owe you, mtn hack - SORRY!

    I did say "Someone else will probably chime in that actually knows within the past day or 2".
    And from that pic it looks like they must have gotten quite a bit from that last storm.
    Meh, at least there is a conditions report now.

    I thought with how dry it has been, we should have been fine, but I had never been up in that area.
    Honestly, by the time we got in there, I was convinced you must have been thinking of something entirely different.


    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Have you considered moving to the North Shore? It sounds like Colorado may not be for you...
    Oh, I am no nut, but deer creek was nothing special. If I lived nearby, I might ride it once in a while, but that is not worth a trip down. Or maybe the snow just muted it? The wall was not even attempt-able with the snow on it.

    We hauled out of there and hit Dakota Ridge on the way back. I forgot how tough that SOB is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtn hack View Post
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    Oh, I am no nut, but deer creek was nothing special. If I lived nearby, I might ride it once in a while, but that is not worth a trip down. Or maybe the snow just muted it? The wall was not even attempt-able with the snow on it.
    Did you ride the singletrack loops up top? I suspect the conditions may have had a *significant* impact on your experience...

    Wait - did you come down from Ft. Collins to ride these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtn hack View Post
    Meh, at least there is a conditions report now.

    I thought with how dry it has been, we should have been fine, but I had never been up in that area.
    Honestly, by the time we got in there, I was convinced you must have been thinking of something entirely different.



    Oh, I am no nut, but deer creek was nothing special. If I lived nearby, I might ride it once in a while, but that is not worth a trip down. Or maybe the snow just muted it? The wall was not even attempt-able with the snow on it.

    We hauled out of there and hit Dakota Ridge on the way back. I forgot how tough that SOB is.

    I like Deer Creek.....rode there last weekend. Including some of the lower loops and upper loops we did a couple hour ride. Front Range MTB: Deer Creek

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIANTkiller View Post
    Yea sorry about that. Not sure what I was thinking when I said "great to ride pretty much year round".

    I think this winter so far has skewed my normally clear thinking.

    What I probably meant was the trails there hold up better than most when moisture is involved.

    I owe you, mtn hack - SORRY!

    I did say "Someone else will probably chime in that actually knows within the past day or 2".
    And from that pic it looks like they must have gotten quite a bit from that last storm.

    I think a lot of people are getting their sense of seasons skewed by the last couple years. Who knows, maybe this will become the norm. I hope not though, the state will be a ver different place if it stays as dry as it's been the last 18 or so months.

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