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    Blackjack, Buffalo Creek -Video-

    ErictheRed, DangerDan and and I rode it this past weekend. It was simply outstanding. here is our video

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    looks sweeet! I hope I get up there this weekend.

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    Granted I have no idea what I am doing, and doubt I will ever ride that 1st feature (or 90% percent of the rest of that trail), but it makes me laugh every time I watch the photog at the bottom catch the bike, and let rider tumble an extra 1/2 roll or so!

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    I need to camp down there again...

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    Nice video...thanks for sharing.

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    Killer vid, Rich! I can't wait to find some time to head out there.

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    Man I have to get out there. I want to ride that area so bad

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    Looks incredible. And way out of my league.

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    I honestly wasn't that interested in hitting "the freeride trail at BC" because I figured they were going to build some wooden stuff and jumps. However, after watching all the videos, that looks like my DREAM TRAIL! I have got to get up there soon!

    Thanks for sharing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    ErictheRed, DangerDan and and I rode it this past weekend. It was simply outstanding. here is our video.
    Well done vid, though I could be a little biased.
    Down is the new up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad andy!
    Granted I have no idea what I am doing, and doubt I will ever ride that 1st feature (or 90% percent of the rest of that trail), but it makes me laugh every time I watch the photog at the bottom catch the bike, and let rider tumble an extra 1/2 roll or so!

    Skin and bones will heal. I didn't notice in the vid, but Dan cut his side wall on that tumble, and a nice explosion of some stans to the non drive side.

    That first feature sure is a good filter feature. I expect it will get harder with time as well. You'll want to conserve speed on the downs and into the transitions as well to help with the next quick up. Its a great trail, especially if you like rocky technical rides.
    Down is the new up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricTheRed
    Its a great trail, especially if you like rocky technical rides.
    How does it compare to the technical rocky section at Hall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kristian
    I honestly wasn't that interested in hitting "the freeride trail at BC" because I figured they were going to build some wooden stuff and jumps. However, after watching all the videos, that looks like my DREAM TRAIL! I have got to get up there soon!

    Thanks for sharing!
    There was a lot of discussion about man-made features early on but we went to painful lengths to use only natural features and materials. As a result, there are no wooden structures on this trail. As the trail gets ridden in, COMBA will be doing maintenance and hardening work and adding a few features over the summer. Work days are scheduled for 7/23, 8/20 and 9/17.

    Thanks for the video Rich and glad you guys had a good time.

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    Where is the helmet cam footage from the slot machine crash?

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    It looks as if the rider in the video takes slot machine far left, was he following this advice...

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    Rode it yesterday. Great trail! Steep, technical (no seriously, technical), climbs, rock faces, drops. There are two nice natural wall rides on Raspberry, one is pretty big to a flat landing. That last roll out is steep. A nice big berm at the bottom of that thing would allow it to be rolled faster, which would make it easier. A lot of front brake action on those long rock faces to save that rear tire from being shredded on that granite. The three lines on slot machine are interesting. The far left line is easiest, right is tricky avoiding the large rock on the right of the trail, the middle line, well, that little finger of rock sticking out makes things interesting: land, brake, turn left

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    Quote Originally Posted by dngrcnnn
    How does it compare to the technical rocky section at Hall?
    Better I think what puts Black Jack in a different league is the amount of on rock riding you do. At hall there are long patches of dirt between rock sections, at BJ there are long sections of rock between dirt sections. I think a little better comparison is Charlies cutoff rock sections. Though in general BJ is steeper, and more technical. You've got to pay attention, there a bunch of tight sections, steep downs to a tight left or right turn.

    I was constantly thinking "damn I'm going too fast, sh1t, I'm def' going faster than I want to" on the long fingers of rock.

    Lot of fun, can't wait to get out there again, and start learning all the lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pocgnikcuf
    It looks as if the rider in the video takes slot machine far left, was he following this advice...

    imaorobbie
    The three lines on slot machine are interesting. The far left line is easiest, right is tricky avoiding the large rock on the right of the trail, the middle line, well, that little finger of rock sticking out makes things interesting: land, brake, turn left
    I thought the middle line looked easiest, though I was concerned about the "endo" rock at the end of that route. I was shaking at the end of that, and I'm glad we hung out there a bit just to calm the nerves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EricTheRed
    I thought the middle line looked easiest, though I was concerned about the "endo" rock at the end of that route. I was shaking at the end of that, and I'm glad we hung out there a bit just to calm the nerves.
    That is the first section i worked on and you guys are more of a man than i !

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    Great video Rich. Thanks!

    Nice riding guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dngrcnnn
    How does it compare to the technical rocky section at Hall?

    It is not in the same league... BJ has sections that are far steeper than Hall.

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    Looks sweet. Thanks for sharing.

    I shot this a couple weeks ago. This trail puts me in the "zone" every time I ride it.



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    I don't know what to think. Three weeks ago, this would have looked awesome to me. Now, 1 week after having a plate tie my clavicle back together after my last wreck, all this 40-something guy can do is cringe. It looks awesome--I hope my balls drop again, I am too young to get all conservative... Great trail stoke, thanks!

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    Great vid on a sooper fun trail. Certainly adds a smile to your day.
    I only wish it were longer, and a bit bermier.

    I definatelty had my cheeks skwuz tight on the Slot Machine
    the drugs made me realize it's not about the drugs

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    Quote Originally Posted by WKD-RDR
    Great vid on a sooper fun trail. Certainly adds a smile to your day.
    I only wish it were longer, and a bit bermier.

    I definatelty had my cheeks skwuz tight on the Slot Machine

    Blackjack rates a 6-7 on the tight-butthole scale...

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    sweet video, but you should have just used the Zappa original

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    Awesome vid!

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    Good riding, Rich!

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    Sweet video and awesome riding. I rode (and walked portions of) that trail a couple weeks ago. Riding that trail solo on the rigid singlespeed is not highly recommended, but I sure had a blast. I think next time the 575 would be the better choice for unskilled fat guys like myself - maybe some armor - maybe some spotters - maybe some stunt riders.

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    Just curious, where did posts #2 --> #21 of this thread go?
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    Anyone know the current conditions up there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad andy!
    Just curious, where did posts #2 --> #21 of this thread go?
    They got raptured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad andy!
    Just curious, where did posts #2 --> #21 of this thread go?
    There are posts missing on the Passion Blackjack thread too. That's weird. Anyone at MTBR care to explain?

    Changing gears, looks like Conifer and the 285 corridor got some snow yesterday but that doesn't mean BC got it too. Either way, I'm sure any snow will melt quickly and the soil, if you want to call it that, will shed the moisture quickly. Might be a few wet spots tomorrow but Sunday should be perfect. Maybe our local weather spotter will chime in. Paging Capt. Amerricka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moustache rider
    They got raptured.
    I wish that brake noise from the video would.....

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    Your Video is Famous!

    I'll be making a lidarman fan page on Facebook any second now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad andy!
    Just curious, where did posts #2 --> #21 of this thread go?
    Yeah. WTF?

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    Nice video and cool trail but where's the Black Diamond section?

    No drops? No jumps? Nothing technical? Actually a little disappointed.
    Sorry just my lame perspective.

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    it's all relative, but still...

    Quote Originally Posted by toHELLuRIDE
    Nice video and cool trail but where's the Black Diamond section?
    No drops? No jumps? Nothing technical? Actually a little disappointed.
    Sorry just my lame perspective.
    ...have you bothered to check it out yourself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gotdirt
    ...have you bothered to check it out yourself?

    Not yet so judging a trail from a video certainly isn't very fair.
    When I get out there I'll bring the HT 29er. Should be plenty of bike for that ride and the rest of the Buff.

    Cheers to the builders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toHELLuRIDE
    Nice video and cool trail but where's the Black Diamond section?

    No drops? No jumps? Nothing technical? Actually a little disappointed.
    Sorry just my lame perspective.
    What is up with the Debbie Downer? Let me know when you go; I'd like to watch you guinea all that non tech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toHELLuRIDE
    just my lame perspective.

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    I updated the video from my android phone here in rainy Fruita....I wonder if there is a weird bug that killed the posts....just speculating.

    But its a mtbr problem, I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toHELLuRIDE
    Not yet so judging a trail from a video certainly isn't very fair.
    When I get out there I'll bring the HT 29er. Should be plenty of bike for that ride and the rest of the Buff.

    Cheers to the builders.
    Please post a helmet vid! I have seen most of the features ridden on a rigid! but put your $ where your mouth is!
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    Oh that looks like it would have been a great ride. Thanks for the stoke. Looking forward to riding with you guy again someday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toHELLuRIDE
    Nice video and cool trail but where's the Black Diamond section?

    No drops? No jumps? Nothing technical? Actually a little disappointed.
    Sorry just my lame perspective.
    There's an optional ~5' drop and the slot machine roller is pretty steep. Video and cameras make it look a lot easier than it is when you're actually there. A good rider that's used to dh riding shouldn't have a problem cleaning it on a "small" bike, but it's still a lot of fun and a step in the right direction for trail building on the front range... you should ride it before you judge it. Anyway, if you consider it a single black diamond xc trail, then I think the rating fits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountaindavis
    I don't know what to think. Three weeks ago, this would have looked awesome to me. Now, 1 week after having a plate tie my clavicle back together after my last wreck, all this 40-something guy can do is cringe. It looks awesome--I hope my balls drop again, I am too young to get all conservative... Great trail stoke, thanks!
    It seems like it's a price you pay, everyone I know that's progressed to more advanced riding gets at least one major injury. I think it's something to learn from, and move on... I broke my arm into several pieces a couple years ago and recently broke a coupe ribs but it was 100% due to my lapse in judgment. Being in really good shape and learning to fall (best learned from martial arts, IMO) are a couple things you can do to prevent injury.

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    Were you guys backcountry camping after the ride? What's up with the packs? You guys should hire Sherpas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toHELLuRIDE
    Nice video and cool trail but where's the Black Diamond section?

    No drops? No jumps? Nothing technical? Actually a little disappointed.
    Sorry just my lame perspective.
    How dare you not follow suit with the rest of the sheep on MTBR. You should damn well know if you have an opinion that differs from the rest, that you should friggin keep it to your self.

    It's good to see some more creative trail being cut on the front range. Especially in an area that is known for it's easy, buff, XC trails. Keep up the good work builders and thank you.

    Can't wait to get at that trail on the HT 29er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    I updated the video from my android phone here in rainy Fruita....I wonder if there is a weird bug that killed the posts....just speculating.

    But its a mtbr problem, I'm sure.
    Looks like the final slash iframe is missing from the youtube embed code in your original post. If you edit and add the slash iframe those posts should show again. Same for the passion thread.

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    Was trying to fix the missing posts 2-21 but it didn't work...

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    Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonb
    Looks like the final slash iframe is missing from the youtube embed code in your original post. If you edit and add the slash iframe those posts should show again. Same for the passion thread.

    jason
    I'm back. But no can't edit now. Amazing that smartphone edits can mess up MTBR posts.

    Not good for mtbr or anyone.
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    That trail actually looked pretty sick, I will definitely be checking that out.

    But whens the front range going to get a good set of REAL high speed type freeride trials? Theres plenty of techy stuff to be found, but i want the flowy big bermed high speed jumps! (Yes I realize there's lift service in the mtns, but thats only 3 months of the year!)

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    Nice, man!!

    That looks awesome! Great vid!!
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    Nice! Reminds of the "Bone Collector" in the Black Hills. Actually lots of BH trails are similar." I guess I better get up there Buff Creek!
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    Yeah! Sick video and riding! Nice skills for sure. I'm excited to check this out sometime this season. Looks quite challenging for sure. I'm with FJDan that we could use some super fast/flowy trails with massive berms and airs!

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    I wanna ride Buffalo Chips and be in a MTB vid...

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    Very nice vid Had to share over on the Facedboook. I NEED SOME BUFF CREEK FIX NOW!

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    wow

    you guys rip! rode this trail solo 2 weeks ago. not smart. popped my shoulder out, broke my phone and popped my front tire bead. lots of steep rocks to flat. i rode 70% of it but looks like you guys owned all of it. nice job.

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    Yeah, I rode this solo too, yesterday. I "walked" down the slot and one other questionable drop but most was fairly manageable. You never know what can happen (mechanical or human error) and there wouldn't be many folks on that trail who wound find you anytime soon. I was able to get a signal from out there, however. Fun trail! Nice diversion from the usual rolling terrain at BC.

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    Man, last two post definitely give you an idea of the intensity of this trail! I still have yet to hit BC this season but plan on it soon. Hope you recover ok from that crash! BC is a big place so it is probably best if you carry a phone while riding. It's about the only place I take my phone with me.

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    The last steep roller is very similar to one in Utah, somewhere around the Monitor/Merrimack trail system.

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    Great vid, you guys made that look easy! I just rode the trail for the first time yesterday and the video really doesn't do it justice. There are some steep spots out there!
    Has anyone noticed that at the top of the climb there is a cairn and you could go left or right? Both are well worn trails. I went left and that took me to the slot machine, where does the trail to the right go?

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    I went right to check it out. I looks like it dead-ends, however it's a nice spot for chillin/snackin with great views...

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoryan25 View Post
    Great vid, you guys made that look easy! I just rode the trail for the first time yesterday and the video really doesn't do it justice. There are some steep spots out there!
    Has anyone noticed that at the top of the climb there is a cairn and you could go left or right? Both are well worn trails. I went left and that took me to the slot machine, where does the trail to the right go?
    The trail to the right is a 5 min asend to a great overlook of the entire area, trail ends there however. Bring your camera!

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    Rode this trail on Monday--a couple of the obstacles I can't imagine riding. Ever. That one 8' steep slot? f-that. I've gone down some black diamond trails, but those double black obstacles had me checking my religion. Awesome trail--I am glad it exists for those willing to ride it as well as those willing to film those riding it :-) Great work folks on an awesome trail addition...

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    Quote Originally Posted by toHELLuRIDE View Post
    Nice video and cool trail but where's the Black Diamond section?

    No drops? No jumps? Nothing technical? Actually a little disappointed.
    Sorry just my lame perspective.
    Trust me, there's drops, and tech lines to be had: here's proof:

    In the first min you'll see a drop and one of the steepest rollers on the front range. I call it the "high roller."

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimat99 View Post
    Trust me, there's drops, and tech lines to be had: here's proof:

    In the first min you'll see a drop and one of the steepest rollers on the front range. I call it the "high roller."
    Also known as Slot Machine, slimat99 is only one that I have seen or heard of riding the high line. Way beyond me but you make it look soooo easy. Love the vid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by casey View Post
    Also known as Slot Machine, slimat99 is only one that I have seen or heard of riding the high line. Way beyond me but you make it look soooo easy. Love the vid!
    Thanks Casey! I would love to see more trials like BJ making use of the front range's unique topography. Now we need a front range freelunch.

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