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    Quote Originally Posted by xcguy View Post
    Don't ignore the used market, there are deals to be had:
    Buwahhh... I bet after all that photoshop knowledge I dropped on you - you'd be willing to cut me a killer deal!? Ha think ill pass but thanks!


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    Quote Originally Posted by xcguy View Post
    For you, Pau11y, tree fiddy.
    How kind are you!
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    [QUOTE=Kstateskier;9785833]Buwahhh... I bet after all that photoshop knowledge I dropped on you - you'd be willing to cut me a killer deal!? Ha think ill pass but thanks!

    I'm still wading through your tutorial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Your '88 walmart special? Lemme guess, you're trying to get $550 for it?
    If that's an '88, next really was ahead of the curve in design.

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    If you're moving to Colorado, why aren't you looking at a Yeti?

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    Because they are nocturnal creatures, and don't like to be ridden?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bipolarbear View Post
    If that's an '88, next really was ahead of the curve in design.
    Creative licensing... I'm pretty sure I'm off by about an order of magnitude on all values stated. Just playing a "Republican" w/ my numbers
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    Quote Originally Posted by wkd-rdr View Post
    "i wish my bike didn't have a saddle," said no one, ever.
    ftfy.



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    If you're moving to The Front Range™, why aren't you looking at a fully rigid singlespeed 29'er?
    ftfy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbabuser View Post
    Because they are nocturnal creatures, and don't like to be ridden?
    Thanks to headlamps, nocturnal and ridden do not have to be mutually exclusive!

    My Yeti loves to ride in the dark.

    Everything the poster has said so far is screaming for a ASR5 or a SB95 if he insists on the big wheels.


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    With a $5-6K budget, I'd be looking at getting two bikes, one for xc, and one for DH. Just saying, never understood the allure of a $6k bike, unless you are racing.

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    Seriously, does one really need to spend $5-6k these days? I'd have thought $2.5k tops. Where did the estimate of a $5000 range for a top quality bike come from anyway?
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    Go poke around at a bike shop

    Quote Originally Posted by xcguy View Post
    Seriously, does one really need to spend $5-6k these days? I'd have thought $2.5k tops. Where did the estimate of a $5000 range for a top quality bike come from anyway?
    I know you don't ride, but have you actually looked at any bike price tags lately? It's dead easy to spend 5 grand on a bike these days. Hell, a decent fork is a grand now.

    I'm not saying that you need to. There are lots of great options between 2 and 3K depending on what you want.

    So need? No. But if the definition is top quality, yeah, 5-6K is a reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xcguy View Post
    Seriously, does one really need to spend $5-6k these days? I'd have thought $2.5k tops. Where did the estimate of a $5000 range for a top quality bike come from anyway?
    Um, I'm gonna go with people who actually ride bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bipolarbear View Post
    With a $5-6K budget, I'd be looking at getting two bikes, one for xc, and one for DH. Just saying, never understood the allure of a $6k bike, unless you are racing.
    Imagine what a fellar could do at the Swap with 6K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcguy View Post
    Seriously, does one really need to spend $5-6k these days? I'd have thought $2.5k tops. Where did the estimate of a $5000 range for a top quality bike come from anyway?
    You can look at $2500 bikes all day long but coming off an ultegra carbon Tarmac I stare at the substandard components and shudder... I nitpick all day long, "ohh I could upgrade this to this, and that to that. Oh I wish this was fox float instead of shox, too bad the seat stay isn't carbon... The wheels, omg the wheels!"

    See it goes on forever, next thing you know you're checkbook is $6k on the light side!

    I actually swung a leg over a camber comp 29er last night. I liked it at $2600, it's spec'd decent. I think with $800 wheel upgrades, a seat dropper and a chain guide plus tax it will come in around $3500... I really liked that, it'd leave me cash left over for whatever later. Will get ride this weekend along with a stumpy FSR 29er, and an epic comp... Still holding out to test ride a Tallboy LT, Rocky Mountain altitude, a yeti sb95 would be a nice test ride, no dealers near me...


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    Honestly I have bought many bikes in my life, I upgrade almost every year (one year XC/AM bike, the next year DH bike) and I have totally given up on buying a new bike. They are like cars and lose their value so fast.

    I find what I want and search craiglist, pinkbike and ebay for the bike I want in the condition I want it to be in and then I pull the trigger. So far this has worked out great with one exception of a bike not as advertised and I filed a paypal dispute and amicably we came to an agreement and I got my money refunded.

    Last winter I found a slightly used 2011 spesh Demo 8 on ebay for a great price, I could sell it for probably 600-1000 more today after a seasons use, but I will keep it.

    This fall I upgraded my 2010 enduro to a 2012 enduro that I found on craiglist for a great price, the upgrade cost me $150 after selling my old bike.

    So many people buy bikes and don't ride them much, look around, be patient. I can't say that i will never spend 5-6k on a bike, but I really can't imagine doing that, seems wasteful when there are so many used ones out there.

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    OP,
    Have you looked at the used market lately? Those TBLTcs are starting to show up. There's at least a couple of them on the Denver CL. This one's in Steamboat: 2012/13 Carbon Santa Cruz Tallboy LT size L
    Looks like the same build KerryN's bike, and it isn't even $5K
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kstateskier View Post
    I actually swung a leg over a camber comp 29er last night. I liked it at $2600, it's spec'd decent. I think with $800 wheel upgrades, a seat dropper and a chain guide plus tax it will come in around $3500... I really liked that, it'd leave me cash left over for whatever later. Will get ride this weekend along with a stumpy FSR 29er, and an epic comp... Still holding out to test ride a Tallboy LT, Rocky Mountain altitude, a yeti sb95 would be a nice test ride, no dealers near me...
    You would do better to wait until you get here and either rent or demo the
    bikes you are interested in and ride them on local trails.

    You can rent or demo almost all the bikes you mentioned.

    FWIW I have heard the geometry on the TB isn't so great for our type of
    riding and I can vouch for the Yeti's being dialed in for local trails. They
    are local. They do R&D on the same trails you will be riding on. Very nice
    bikes.

    Besides, when you buy local your sales tax supports Open Space
    Parks and Trails.


    With that said. I have a friend who just bought the Camber HT. I think he
    paid about $1K less than what you are looking at.

    And you really don't need XO or XTR. You're going to tear equipment up so
    fast that buying mid-range parts is the way to go IMHO. It's your money
    though.

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    Anything with two wheels that you can pedal.

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    Wut chu talkin' about Willis?!

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleTrail View Post
    FWIW I have heard the geometry on the TB isn't so great for our type of
    riding and I can vouch for the Yeti's being dialed in for local trails. They
    are local. They do R&D on the same trails you will be riding on. Very nice
    bikes.


    Maybe the TB... But the LTc flavor of that bike...me likey lots!
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    I'll throw in my two cents... Pivot Mach 5.7. Great all-arounder. Super stiff laterally. Great climber ( dw link). Competent/Fun descender. I think it has a snappier feel to it compared to other mid-long travel FS bikes I've tried. And you don't see a lot of them out there (a trait I like).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post

    Maybe the TB... But the LTc flavor of that bike...me likey lots!
    Sorry I didn't mean to diss your bike. Everyone has their preferences.
    And speaking from experience. What works well in Texas may not
    work very well here.

    Like for me. I love riding my Dekerf. But my back hurts like **** after 3
    hours of climbing to somewhere like Frosty's. On my Yeti I can ride 6 hours
    without the pain... a little heavier, but it's an easy tradeoff.

    You really need to ride it up/down a 10%+ slope trail to get the feel for
    sitting in the saddle. Remember you're going to be in the saddle climbing for
    30 minutes to several hours at a time depending. Downhills are long too.

    I think that's the point I was trying to make.

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    You have to spend at least 5-6k if you want carbon wheels. And who doesn't want carbon wheels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbabuser View Post
    And who doesn't want time bombs?
    Fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Looks like the same build KerryN's bike, and it isn't even $5K
    I hate you. I did not want to know about that!

    I could get a pretty decent hardtail for the price difference between that and what I paid for mine. Anyway my bike is better. I have a 3x10 transmission not that fad of 2x10. That's why the bike is cheap. It's missing a chainring...

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