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    Best resort in CO!?

    Hey guys,
    Me and a few buddies are planning a trip in Colorado for some sweet resort riding.. I have looked into the resorts and trails you guys have and it's a overload! So I figured the best way to find what we're looking for is to ask the locals!
    Overall we are downhill riders, we want lifts! Some good flowy trails with features. We are planning on a couple days of riding, so maybe a resort with some options so we don't get bored. A kickass night life would be a huge plus! When I say this.... What resort comes to mind?? Thanks in advance! We're stoked for our trip which is going to be middle/late June.
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    I would goto breckenridge without a doubt, hotest chicks around, lots of bars, coolest mountain town in colorado talk about kick ass night life, I don't even know where to start..........

    by the way it's going to be snowing into late may this year so mid june might not be good.

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    Winter Park hands down. In addition to the resort, there are over 600 miles of mtn bike trails in the Frasier Valley and Solvista ski resort is about 30 minutes away and has been building up their DH park over the last 5 years or so too.

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    Lots of options, don't limit yourself

    Ok, so, keep in mind I haven't been on the DH sled in a few years and things may have changed a bit, but:
    -The riding areas are all within about 90 minutes of each other, so hit everything.
    -Keystone: Biggest vert, lots of rocky natural trails, a few manmade things that are IMO kinda lame. Old school DH with a lot of very difficult terrain. Some trails have gotten pretty trashed due to mediocre (fall line) design and limited maintenance. Looooong runs. Almost no nightlife (the Goat!!!) but you can get to Breck in about 15 minutes.
    -Winter Park: Lots of manmade stuff (ie berms, jumps, some wood structures) and more every year. Managed by the same folks who run Whistler, so you know they know their stuff. The place to do safe, fun jumps. I never hear about Sol Vista anymore but it's 20 minutes up the road and has some very well-designed stuff, albeit shorter runs. Downside to the Frasier valley is there is zero nightlife. I mean literally zero.
    -Vail: The situation changes year to year but as unless things got dramatically better recently I would not plan to spend more than a half day here. Vail WAS the absolute best DH in the Rockies for a few years in the early 2000s after Worlds brought a ton of great riders/trail builders to the area briefly, but the FS shut down most of the (illegal) trails. Nightlife is great if you have serious money or hook up with a local who knows where to go.

    A few other places run the occasional lift for hikers and will let you on with a bike (and we should all pour one out for the lovely Stickline at BC, love ya till I join ya) but those 3 or 4 places are the meat of the DH riding that is lift served.

    Keep in mind that the XC riding in all these places is incredible too, even if you're usually not a fan of earning your turns.

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    I think others have pretty much hit it already. Breckenridge is definitely the best town up there from a night life perspective. Nearby to Breckenridge is Keystone which has a lot of great riding. Like Walt mentioned, it's more "old school" though. There are great rock gardens and some very difficult terrain, plus the most man made stunts of any resort in Colorado. Being old school, it's my favorite resort.

    That being said, Winter Park has the best flowy trails. They only have one real (old school) downhill trail, but trails like Rainmaker have some of the best jumps out there.

    Just up the road from Winter Park is Granby Ranch Bike Park (FKA Sol Vista) which has some really good riding too. It's definitely the racer's mountain in Colorado and they have 4 really good downhill courses. They also have a few greens and blues that have really good flow to them. Silky Johnson reigns as my favorite resort trail in Colorado. The trails are short (750 vertical by my GPS) but you can ride them multiple times during a day and really get your lines dialed.

    While the Fraiser Valley (WP and SV) doesn't have the night life that Breck does, it's not awful. Besides, if you're NOT so tired after a day of lifting that you can still go out and party, you're doing something wrong. I'd say to get a place in either WP or Granby and plan on riding both of those resorts. If you can get away to Keystone for a day, even better.

    You might want to reconsider your timing though. It's another crappy winter this year (meaning no snow), but mid June is really pushing it. Usually things open up about the last weekend in June.

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    Awesome! thanks guys! I do have another question... I noticed no one said Aspen/Snowmass... And everything i red online pointed me to that direction... Dont do it? overrated?
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    Snowmass has great trails and has added some good DH and flow trails to the large quantity of XC that they have. Last year they added gondy-served stuff, after a winter the trails should pack in nicely. FWIW, I can't stand skiing there but it's my favorite hill to ride. Aspen (Ajax) does not have much to speak of, but around town there is good XC, and down valley in Carbondale there is quite a bit to ride. We hit Prince Creek last night with a posse of fatbikes. There are plans in the works for a park in Carbondale, but this will take a year or more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooverGiant View Post
    Awesome! thanks guys! I do have another question... I noticed no one said Aspen/Snowmass... And everything i red online pointed me to that direction... Dont do it? overrated?
    Snowmass is known for the Blast the Mass race, but I didn't know they have lifts outside of the race. I know a lot of places are really making a push for summer business so maybe they are going that direction. Steamboat and Crested Butte are also both expanding their summer program, but I don't think that either resort qualifies as being "destination worthy" yet.

    I haven't ridden any of the three resorts I mention above though. Keystone, Winter Park and Sol Vista are definitely the big players when it comes to downhill.

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    Winter Park... +5

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    Go to Snowmass - there will be *far* fewer ******bags there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripper roo View Post
    by the way it's going to be snowing into late may this year so mid june might not be good.
    It's going to snow until late May?!? Lord knows we need it, but how can you know in December that it's going to snow until late May?

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    Also being a DH based rider, living in CO, I would suggest, as others have done, is to hit Winterpark the 1st day, lots of fun trails, not too much in fast, tech, other than Trestle DH, which is fun to tear out 3-4 runs in a row on, buts lots of flowy, jump trails, cool, well build wood features & some nice drops & bigger new jumps at the bottom. Nightlife sucks at the resort, but great daytime restaurants with plenty to offer in booze & grub in the village. We usually head into town to Deno's for food & brews after riding, then over to ULRS Pub (that is the name, I swear) for some pool & local music & such.

    Day 2, if you are done with WP, hit up Keystone for straight up DH trails. Not too many people like it, but being a long time DH racer, I love the place, loooong runs, steep a$$ rock garden sections, some big jumps thrown in, great place! 7-8 runs & you are worked, great place. Don't know about the night life though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad View Post
    Also being a DH based rider, living in CO, I would suggest, as others have done, is to hit Winterpark the 1st day, lots of fun trails, not too much in fast, tech, other than Trestle DH, which is fun to tear out 3-4 runs in a row on, buts lots of flowy, jump trails, cool, well build wood features & some nice drops & bigger new jumps at the bottom. Nightlife sucks at the resort, but great daytime restaurants with plenty to offer in booze & grub in the village. We usually head into town to Deno's for food & brews after riding, then over to ULRS Pub (that is the name, I swear) for some pool & local music & such.

    Day 2, if you are done with WP, hit up Keystone for straight up DH trails. Not too many people like it, but being a long time DH racer, I love the place, loooong runs, steep a$$ rock garden sections, some big jumps thrown in, great place! 7-8 runs & you are worked, great place. Don't know about the night life though.
    +1. Love the Keystone trails.

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    Here is a list of local bike parks and associated lift prices. I have not updated this list, and probably won't until speculation begins in March 2013.
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    Only 3 places to hit in CO for a DH is WP/Trestle, Keystone, and Granby Ranch/Sol Vista.

    Others suck, Vail is balls, Snomass has some legit DH but waaay out there for small payoff. Breck blows nuts. Others are far far behind the curve.

    Mind you I ONLY ago for riding, nightlife for me is a tent and a bottle, maybe some boomers...


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    Warm up at Winter Park, then ride real terrain at Keystone. Choppy and unrelenting black diamond trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooverGiant View Post
    Awesome! thanks guys! I do have another question... I noticed no one said Aspen/Snowmass... And everything i red online pointed me to that direction... Dont do it? overrated?
    Snowmass has an awesome DH course...but it's a race course and only open for races. Otherwise they don't have much. Crested Butte and Telluride have several very fun trails but probably not worth the drive, I've only been there for the races.

    Vail is fun, but their trail map is never up to date and even then it's hard to find the good stuff. Best to ride with a local there.
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    Crested Butte would be worth the drive during Crested Butte Bike Week. Crested Butte Mountain Resort | Crested Butte Bike Week & Wildflower Rush
    Is happens mid to late June. No 2013 dates announced yet. You will have the most fun if you do some racing too.Super D and DH are both good. Some of the best trails are block off for racing. The chainless DH is lots fun. Free live music. Okay night life. Great Beer!

    Other than that I would say Trestle bike park and Sol Vista. Then if you still want your ass kicked go to Keystone on the way back home.

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    I would aim for 4th of july week. Breck has bike week that week and it is a cool atmosphere. I would stay in Breck, if you come in June the nightlife will be limited. 4th of July week will bring in the tourists and will add to the nightlife. Dont come for the nightlife come to ride, if you want nightlife stay in Denver a night or two. Breck gives you good access to all the lifts and they are close enough so you could hit them all, except Aspen it is a good hike from Breck. The mountains dont have ladies night they have lady night and it is 10 dudes watching 1 girl drink so dont come for nightlife come to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Ok, so, keep in mind I haven't been on the DH sled in a few years and things may have changed a bit, but:
    -The riding areas are all within about 90 minutes of each other, so hit everything.
    -Keystone: Biggest vert, lots of rocky natural trails, a few manmade things that are IMO kinda lame. Old school DH with a lot of very difficult terrain. Some trails have gotten pretty trashed due to mediocre (fall line) design and limited maintenance. Looooong runs. Almost no nightlife (the Goat!!!) but you can get to Breck in about 15 minutes.
    -Winter Park: Lots of manmade stuff (ie berms, jumps, some wood structures) and more every year. Managed by the same folks who run Whistler, so you know they know their stuff. The place to do safe, fun jumps. I never hear about Sol Vista anymore but it's 20 minutes up the road and has some very well-designed stuff, albeit shorter runs. Downside to the Frasier valley is there is zero nightlife. I mean literally zero.
    -Vail: The situation changes year to year but as unless things got dramatically better recently I would not plan to spend more than a half day here. Vail WAS the absolute best DH in the Rockies for a few years in the early 2000s after Worlds brought a ton of great riders/trail builders to the area briefly, but the FS shut down most of the (illegal) trails. Nightlife is great if you have serious money or hook up with a local who knows where to go.

    A few other places run the occasional lift for hikers and will let you on with a bike (and we should all pour one out for the lovely Stickline at BC, love ya till I join ya) but those 3 or 4 places are the meat of the DH riding that is lift served.

    Keep in mind that the XC riding in all these places is incredible too, even if you're usually not a fan of earning your turns.

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    can you talk a little bit more about what vail was like in the early 2000s? As a follower of the world cup like most follow NFL, etc, I find it so hard to believe a place like vail hosted World's just 10 short years ago.

    I first rode DH at vail back in 2008. trails like PMT, 94 DH, and old 9 line got me hooked on mountain biking, so it is always fun to go back there. It seems like every year they work on some new trail, and forget the others, and the trail map never is up to date (ride w/ someone who knows the area). Vail built two "flow" trails this year, as did Steamboat (Gravity Logic helped w/ steamboat, some fun trails). A flow trail was also built at Aspen w/ the help of gravity logic as well.

    WP (gravity logic) and Keystone are great, so is Sol Vista. Crested Butte does have some really fun trails, but the resort is so far from all the rest. I will be sure to go back to Crested Butte some time soon.

    It is best to check out a few resorts if you have the time. If you need to just smash out runs and get your money's worth, I would for sure hit up WP and keystone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xjrides View Post
    I first rode DH at vail back in 2008. trails like PMT, 94 DH, and old 9 line got me hooked on mountain biking, so it is always fun to go back there. It seems like every year they work on some new trail, and forget the others, and the trail map never is up to date (ride w/ someone who knows the area).

    Vail built two "flow" trails this year, as did Steamboat (Gravity Logic helped w/ steamboat,
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    PMT was a pirate trail. If you like that one, you'll love the others!

    Good luck with that though, those new "flow" trails over the last 2 years trashed 3 of them. The FS is an evil genius. They allow new lame groomers and trash great single track in the same move. They also logged out Magic Forest in 2011, it may be open but it is absolutely not the same. And 2001 Worlds is only partially rideable; they put a fireroad over the entrance years ago.

    There's still fun stuff there; but I'm glad I rode Vail before things were relatively popular again and I am sure you are too.

    *I never post "Fight Club" DH trails on the Internet. But as Vail is plowing them under so who cares right? Anyone want to poach Beaver Creek?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithnu View Post
    PMT was a pirate trail. If you like that one, you'll love the others!

    Good luck with that though, those new "flow" trails over the last 2 years trashed 3 of them. The FS is an evil genius. They allow new lame groomers and trash great single track in the same move. They also logged out Magic Forest in 2011, it may be open but it is absolutely not the same. And 2001 Worlds is only partially rideable; they put a fireroad over the entrance years ago.

    There's still fun stuff there; but I'm glad I rode Vail before things were relatively popular again and I am sure you are too.

    *I never post "Fight Club" DH trails on the Internet. But as Vail is plowing them under so who cares right? Anyone want to poach Beaver Creek?


    I rode magic forest this past year and it seemed like nothing had changed. . . same unmaintained jumps, quite loamy actually as no one rides it.

    Which trail was used for 2001 worlds? Was it the same as the 94 DH? Did 94 start at the top of the mountain originally? Crazy to imagine minaar pinning it down our washed up, forgotten bike park. I still enjoy it though! I just saw a thread of you raving about vail back in 2008, the good ol days!

    I'm still interested to hear of how Vail came to be a World's destination. Did they have trails beforehand? I mean, Windham, NY hosts a round of the world cup now and they don't even have a bike park as far as I understand. It is just interesting that this used to be THE place to ride 10 years ago and people now hardly associate vail with DH. Angelfire as I understand is one of the only other places in the US to host a world cup round, and they are still building and growing like Trestle!

    I feel like vail could still be top 3 or 4 if they put time into their trails. All I hear out of the keystone camp is they have "big plans" to build more trails, but they haven't put anything new out in several years (except for this summer with the paid n full reroute). Every year at trestle you see like 2 or 3 new trails.
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    The 01 course was never opened to the public, was actually used in 00 too as I recall, but it wasn't for the WC finals--it was a WC regular race. I went to both races (one of them in a cast) and the course was really cool.

    It was never opened to the public. After both races they closed it down by putting obsticles in the path. I have heard of a few people who poached it before it was closed, but Vail's intention was never to have it be ridden by anyone not on the World Cup scene. In their defense, the course was pretty aggressive (for the time at least) and would be an injury magnite if average riders went down it. Still, I would think that they would want to use the publicity bump generated by the race and build up their DH business.

    There is a video that Shawn Spomer did of the rocky mountain race scene that year that has excellent coverage of the World Cup. I did some searching and found this:
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    Kristian, that was awesome! i have not seen any of that footage!

    From the looks of it, it appears the track ran under the vista bahn and ended down in vail village? Did it start at the top of the gondola?
    Looks like a pretty good crowd came out. would have been awesome to be there!
    That track looks legit by todays standards even! what a great part of vails history. If only they had taken that momentum and ran with it!

    It is cool to look at a resort's history as DH parks are recently starting to become more popular. Did vail have an active bike park around 2001? or were most of the trails pirate trails?

    I figure around 2001 keystone didn't have too many trails? That being said, Keystone has trails that are more along the old school style, as they likely started building early on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjrides View Post
    I rode magic forest this past year and it seemed like nothing had changed. . . same unmaintained jumps, quite loamy actually as no one rides it.

    Which trail was used for 2001 worlds? Was it the same as the 94 DH? Did 94 start at the top of the mountain originally? .
    The last time I was on Magic Forest they hadn't removed the logs yet, the whole thing was rerouted into the ski run. And as they had heavy equipment in there I couldn't even see the trail under those tracks/logs. 2001 WC is only partially rideable, maybe 60 seconds of it. And it is a poacher trail with no maintenance so there's dead fall on it. At least on 94' they removed dead fall. Vail has a lot of potential that isn't being used.

    Telluride and Durango have hosted.

    2000,2001 Vail
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    Video Vault: 2001 UCI World Cup, Durango Colorado - Mountain Biking Videos - Vital MTB

    Oh and I was talking with a friend recently who's been racing since the 90s. I believe he said Keystone had races then. And he said Wild Thing used be be smooth! Full Trucker should pipe in here; he's 40 gagillion years old and has been racing for most of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjrides View Post
    Kristian, that was awesome! i have not seen any of that footage!

    From the looks of it, it appears the track ran under the vista bahn and ended down in vail village? Did it start at the top of the gondola?
    Looks like a pretty good crowd came out. would have been awesome to be there!
    That track looks legit by todays standards even! what a great part of vails history. If only they had taken that momentum and ran with it!

    It is cool to look at a resort's history as DH parks are recently starting to become more popular. Did vail have an active bike park around 2001? or were most of the trails pirate trails?

    I figure around 2001 keystone didn't have too many trails? That being said, Keystone has trails that are more along the old school style, as they likely started building early on.
    The trail started by the top of the Vista Bahn (I think--I didn't walk that high) and then dropped down to that base area. Most of the spectator friendly stuff was towards the bottom half of the course so it was a really fun race to watch.

    Even back then, Keystone was the best resort in the state. They had the best DH course (Cowboy Up, TNT (FKA Logger's way), Wild Thing), in addition to Mosquito Coast and Let It Ride. In the early 00s they started adding Motorhead, Jam Rock etc so they were really the focus of Vail Resorts back then.

    Vail had the 94 course and a few cheezy trails at the bottom, but the 94 course was full of off camber corners (which they later added berms to) so it wasn't a very fun trail. That was about the time that the pirate trails really started to boom though so there was a fair bit that was off the official radar. PBR, Radio Flyer and Matterhorn were some trails that I was exposed to. They were a lot of fun, but were unsustainably steep (or not built up enough for as steep as they were). It's hard to fault the Forest Service for wanting them closed.

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    Maybe you could have XCguy suggest a camera that takes better photos!




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    Great pics Andy. -Giant Killer for the rest of you, Andy creates a new user name every other year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scar View Post
    camera that takes better photos!

    Those action ones are just the crappy ones. You should see the BAD ones!
    And, trust me, it's the photographer, not the camera!

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    Hmmm, contribute to thread.
    I have only done xc at all the resorts, and I think I would probably go with Breck for that. But I know it's not good for or necessarily even meant for the DHers.
    Like some others have said for what it sounds like you want, stay at Breck, travel to the other spots for riding and Breck for night life if you're not too tired.

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