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    ARGH! weather rant

    so ok, I freely admit I'm a huge puss and don't have a fatbike either but seriously, I am not looking forward to this weekend's weather forecast. I'm supposed to get 3-4 hours in each day according to my training plan and it looks like it's going to be on rollers and/or the trainer because I can't hack this shite.

    the past few weeks has been hell. it won't snow enough for me to go skate ski (conditions at helldora are even worse than usual) and it's going to be super windy on top of highs in the teens this weekend.

    I am sad. I am one of those weak sisters who has a hard time keeping hands and feet warm regardless of what I do, and I've never figured out an adequate glove solution for this crap.

    I'd love to get out and MTB somewhere - I've got exactly 50 miles on my new Niner since November, but I'm thinking it just isn't going to be possible. Please disabuse me of this notion?

    all ideas, fellow rants, kicks in the arse and HTFU solicited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonefrontranger View Post
    so ok, I freely admit I'm a huge puss and don't have a fatbike either but seriously, I am not looking forward to this weekend's weather forecast. I'm supposed to get 3-4 hours in each day according to my training plan and it looks like it's going to be on rollers and/or the trainer because I can't hack this shite.

    the past few weeks has been hell. it won't snow enough for me to go skate ski (conditions at helldora are even worse than usual) and it's going to be super windy on top of highs in the teens this weekend.

    I am sad. I am one of those weak sisters who has a hard time keeping hands and feet warm regardless of what I do, and I've never figured out an adequate glove solution for this crap.

    I'd love to get out and MTB somewhere - I've got exactly 50 miles on my new Niner since November, but I'm thinking it just isn't going to be possible. Please disabuse me of this notion?

    all ideas, fellow rants, kicks in the arse and HTFU solicited.
    Pueblo maybe?

    Gotta head a looong way south to find any warm stuff this year.

    Skip any thoughts of Helldora getting better. Today we got all the wind and cold, but virtually nothing for snow.

    Oh.. and HTFU.
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    Wait. I have constructive advice - move to Texas.

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    Indoor trainer. Put on a Trance station on Pandora and pedal your cares away.
    So it seems to me to be, this thing that I think I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcguy View Post
    Indoor trainer. Put on a Trance station on Pandora and pedal your cares away.
    Screw that. Drinking beer would be preferable to that $hit.

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    Hate to agree with Skeert, but he is right.
    SIUP, move, or both.


    I do wish if it was going to be cold, that it would actually SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    edit - this may be a problem too:
    according to my training plan

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    Training plan... schmaining plan. Winter is for skiing and drinking beer.

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    Training plan, must not deviate, will fail come spring....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Winter is for skiing and drinking beer.
    Actually, that sounds like an excellent training plan.

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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aDUuCSc42NU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Or head to pueblo for the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Wait. I have constructive advice - move to Texas.
    how is that helpful? I moved here from Ohio...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thump View Post
    Actually, that sounds like an excellent training plan.
    For anything.

    And as far as training food goes:


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    Quote Originally Posted by lonefrontranger View Post
    how is that helpful? I moved here from Ohio...
    Fvcking Ohioans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonefrontranger View Post
    how is that helpful? I moved here from Ohio...
    Texas is a right to whine state

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIANTkiller View Post

    I do wish if it was going to be cold, that it would actually SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    edit - this may be a problem too:
    plus one million for wishing it would just f'n snow.

    yea I know the whole training plan idea is frowned upon in here, but I can't help that I enjoy racing, and my husband paid for us to get a coach this year.

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    I'd give you free coaching. In fact... I did. See training food picture above.

    As far as enjoying racing - seek professional help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonefrontranger View Post
    plus one million for wishing it would just f'n snow.

    yea I know the whole training plan idea is frowned upon in here, but I can't help that I enjoy racing, and my husband paid for us to get a coach this year.
    Expensive, highly over rated, not fun, and berated for telling others you have a trainer.

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    Lots of options:

    No need for a snow bike - I rode 5 out of the last 6 days on my FS; Fatbike parked. Fat Bike is not necessary to fulfill training goals; ride your regular bike in the snow and feel the burn – fantastic work out. Smaller investment in studded tires would probably work and are better than fat tires in some conditions (ice for example).

    Temps were ~40 every night (early) this last week, should be manageable for the sensitive of toes and finger tips – lots of night riding to be had – Green Mountain/Bear Creek Lake park. Probably need multiple laps of somewhat less interesting trails but you’ll get your mileage and hours in pretty easily. In winter you have to max out when the weather is mild (like this last week) to prepare for the tougher times.

    OK, so temps in the teens Sat and Sun may not be doable for you but when you have maxed out in previous days (planning and drive) hit the gym for back to back spin and body pump classes, finish with fifty laps in the pool and your cross-training boxes will be checked.

    If you don’t already have pogies and winter boots then maybe you haven’t tried hard enough. Here's an interesting thread on the 45nrth winter boots - more than what most FR winter riders need but may be just the ticket for you (you're gonna have spend at least a little if you want to hit the training goals over the winter).

    No offense but winter riding takes a different mentality because riding isn't handed to you right now like it is the rest of the year.

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    Quit being so goddammed helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmac View Post
    Lots of options....
    Sheesh. Can't you see you're just being helpful with that response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Quit being so goddammed helpful.
    Or at least make your advice seem helpful, but then not really
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    lonefrontranger, oh my goodness. Maybe you should stick to the ladies forum. Put on your superman underwear and go ride. Suck it up and buy some good poogies, that will keep your hands warm, I promise. Buy some really warm winter boots and ditch your clipless pedals for really cold days. If not warm enough put in a couple chemical toe warmers.

    I rode from Laramie to Ft. Collins this week to have some nicer riding weather. 20 degrees with 15 mph wind when I left Laramie in the morning, 55 degrees in Ft. Collins when I stopped at Full Cycle, back down to about 20 degrees just north of Livermore on my way back in the dark.

    Buy a fat bike and some big boy panties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmac View Post
    Lots of options:

    No need for a snow bike - I rode 5 out of the last 6 days on my FS; Fatbike parked. Fat Bike is not necessary to fulfill training goals; ride your regular bike in the snow and feel the burn – fantastic work out. Smaller investment in studded tires would probably work and are better than fat tires in some conditions (ice for example).
    good intel, I should be more diligent about taking out the MTB. Work is problematic during the week for night rides but I did get plenty of (road) riding in during the day.

    Temps were ~40 every night (early) this last week, should be manageable for the sensitive of toes and finger tips – lots of night riding to be had – Green Mountain/Bear Creek Lake park. Probably need multiple laps of somewhat less interesting trails but you’ll get your mileage and hours in pretty easily. In winter you have to max out when the weather is mild (like this last week) to prepare for the tougher times.
    yea I need better lights for sure.

    OK, so temps in the teens Sat and Sun may not be doable for you but when you have maxed out in previous days (planning and drive) hit the gym for back to back spin and body pump classes, finish with fifty laps in the pool and your cross-training boxes will be checked.
    no gym membership, no plans to get one. I hate the gym worse than the trainer.

    If you don’t already have pogies and winter boots then maybe you haven’t tried hard enough. Here's an interesting thread on the 45nrth winter boots - more than what most FR winter riders need but may be just the ticket for you (you're gonna have spend at least a little if you want to hit the training goals over the winter).
    ok cool I'll check that out.

    No offense but winter riding takes a different mentality because riding isn't handed to you right now like it is the rest of the year.
    yea I know. I was super good at it in my 20s but now that I'm 45 it's getting hard.

    the rest of you guys in this thread are bringing it old-skool MTBR style just like I like it. I need a good asskicking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonefrontranger View Post
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    yea I know. I was super good at it in my 20s but now that I'm 45 it's getting hard.
    Quit blaming age.

    Moar donuts.

    Moar skiing.

    Less racing.

    Moar travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonefrontranger View Post
    so ok, I freely admit I'm a huge puss and don't have a fatbike either but seriously, I am not looking forward to this weekend's weather forecast. I'm supposed to get 3-4 hours in each day according to my training plan and it looks like it's going to be on rollers and/or the trainer because I can't hack this shite.

    the past few weeks has been hell. it won't snow enough for me to go skate ski (conditions at helldora are even worse than usual) and it's going to be super windy on top of highs in the teens this weekend.

    I am sad. I am one of those weak sisters who has a hard time keeping hands and feet warm regardless of what I do, and I've never figured out an adequate glove solution for this crap.

    I'd love to get out and MTB somewhere - I've got exactly 50 miles on my new Niner since November, but I'm thinking it just isn't going to be possible. Please disabuse me of this notion?

    all ideas, fellow rants, kicks in the arse and HTFU solicited.
    Hiking with some 5-10 minute intervals is good. Snowshoeing a few hours is some of the best cardio you can do as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenboy View Post
    Sheesh. Can't you see you're just being helpful with that response.
    We need at least one helpful response so everyone else can pile on with the wo-man up comments.

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    Really lonefrontranger, you are only 45. Heck, when I was 45, this stuff was easy. What are you going to do when you are in your fifties? You might as well trade your bike in for a good television now while your bike is worth something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmac View Post
    We need at least one helpful response....
    "We" do?
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    Colorado has beautiful weather, ride the rollers {{drink beer/watch football}} and wait 3 days.
    Gone are the days we stopped to decide,
    Where we should go,
    We just ride...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndecentExposure View Post
    Screw you guys, I'm going home.
    I bet $9 you *are* home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    As far as enjoying racing - seek professional help.
    um, I just did??

    //thanks you guys in all honesty this is helping. I rode rollers for a bit and just did a huge core/weights workout which I was entirely NOT motivated to do. tomorrow I'll see if I can hack taking the Niner out to Marshall Mesa or something lame-ish like that. hopefully it's not packed ice yet.

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    I was suggesting more along the psychiatric line...

    A trainer isn't going to provide the help you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Fvcking Ohioans.
    Yeah, we buckeyes suck. First I move from Ohio to WNC and intrude on the locals that ride Pisgah, who don't want anybody else here. Then I start poaching your Front Range forum planning, for a visit out there, where I'll ride all your trails and drink all your beer. However, I do plan to drop a $hitload of cash while I'm there.

    I'm just glad I'm not there THIS weekend. It's gonna hit 70 here in Asheville tomorrow (where half the residents are originally from Ohio).
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    My revelation was flipping my thinking from"how can I pick winter clothes that work on the bike?" to "how can I pick a bike that works with winter clothes I already have?".

    So I wear snow boots and break out my skiing clothes, and set up my old mountain bike as a "snow bike" with flat pedals, a taller stem (more comfortable with big layers) and a low fixed gear and I just ride around and explore town for a couple of hours. Way better than rollers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonefrontranger View Post
    I moved here from Ohio...
    Wait a minute...your from Ohio and you think its cold outside. I'm from Ohio and can't believe how great the winter weather is on the front range. Remember that there is no lake effect snow and 99% humidity blowing off Lake Erie to keep you off your bike. Count your blessings that you don't have to ride at Ray's Indoor Mountain Bike Park (although it is very cool and everyone should go at least once) because the trails are under three feet of slush. Ride on, ride fast and enjoy not overheating.

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    Yep, I'll echo the HTFU that the others said.

    I'm headed to DR tomorrow morning before football, even though I know that I'll most likely end up in the fetal position in a hot shower afterwards.

    You'll never know if it's worth it if you don't try.

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    My revelation was flipping my thinking from"how can I pick winter clothes that work on the bike?" to "how can I pick a bike that works with winter clothes I already have?".
    That is it right there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    "We" do?
    Probably not now that you make me think about it.

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    "no gym membership, no plans to get one. I hate the gym worse than the trainer."

    I've worked out in gyms all my life and have ridden a trainer (indoors ) since breaking my right wrist back in 2006.

    Hope that helps.
    So it seems to me to be, this thing that I think I see.

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    Spin class for really cold days?
    Theres one at 7:15 this morning at Green Mtn Rec Center. Get there early because the cold weather will guarantee a full class.
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    This weather bad? No way. I'd rather ride in the dry snow and single digit temps then 35 degrees and freezing rain. Going out in a bit for a couple hours of riding.

    This is my buddy Jerry. 65 years old and dude is still kicking azz on a bike. Pics are from Huntsville, Alabama last January. What you don't see is its hovering around 34-35 degrees and we are soaked from freezing rain.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/goatshell/6746656217/" title="P1060981 by Goat in a Turtle Shell, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6746656217_113f3f8d09_z.jpg" width="480" height="640" alt="P1060981"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/goatshell/6746664279/" title="P1060984 by Goat in a Turtle Shell, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7148/6746664279_03ba30fa1f_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="P1060984"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/goatshell/6746609087/" title="P1060932 by Goat in a Turtle Shell, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7158/6746609087_515e58ba57_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="P1060932"></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Moar donuts.

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    11:00 am Rattle Snake Trail @ Deer Creek, should be perfect conditions ! No whining

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    Quote Originally Posted by danaco View Post
    11:00 am Rattle Snake Trail @ Deer Creek, should be perfect conditions ! No whining
    Make that 10am and I would see you there. Wife's gotta work this afternoon so heading out soon for an am ride. Had considered Dakota, Red Rocks but this I may go for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopsalot View Post
    Wait a minute...your from Ohio and you think its cold outside. I'm from Ohio and can't believe how great the winter weather is on the front range. Remember that there is no lake effect snow and 99% humidity blowing off Lake Erie to keep you off your bike. Count your blessings that you don't have to ride at Ray's Indoor Mountain Bike Park (although it is very cool and everyone should go at least once) because the trails are under three feet of slush. Ride on, ride fast and enjoy not overheating.
    I should clarify: I'm from Cincitucky, by way of Washington D.C. actually.

    been out here 10 years. The weeks between Xmas and Feb 1 are always difficult weather for riding here, true it can go up to 60 and sunny tho. HTFU accomplished, I'm thinking of ways to make it work for a ride this afternoon while the boys are watching football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbug View Post
    Yep, I'll echo the HTFU that the others said.

    ...You'll never know if it's worth it if you don't try.
    I was off work yesterday and was planning to go ride 4 or 5 hours in Pueblo. Until I saw the forecast for gusts to 70 mph. Punt.

    Went snowshoeing. Doesn't feed my soul, but it's a great workout and it is quite beautiful in the snowy woods at 11K.







    But, I would have rather been riding singletrack.

    Would I like a fatbike? Probably for the next 8 weeks, sure. Not going to buy one just for that.

    We got an insignificant amount of snow up here in Salida. It's not supposed to get above the teens until into this week so I'm iffy to try to ride. I'm doing solo at the 24 in the Old Pueblo in 5 weeks, so I need hours of saddle time. I see some roller time happening today.



    And probably tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mountaingoatepics View Post
    Make that 10am and I would see you there. Wife's gotta work this afternoon so heading out soon for an am ride. Had considered Dakota, Red Rocks but this I may go for.
    Sorry we missed you, six of us @ 11 this morning, 9 degrees, the new Wolvhammers got me through 2:15 hrs exposure. A great ride !

    BTW I see your building a fatty, very cool, I've got a Muk 2. It's a lot of fun but I won't ride with others on usual faire mtb's unless there's enough snow to make it difficult for them, I simply can't keep up the pace !

    Look forward to seeing your new rig, wheels look good. Give a shout, I'll ride fatties with you. Met another guy last week on Falcon on a BG he'll come out too !

    I'd post a pic if someone can help me figure out how to use Tapatalk

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