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    Apex Flood Damage Photos - Closure to continue well into 2014

    There was a guided tour conducted by JCOS staff this morning, to view the extent and nature of the flood damage at Apex Park.

    The damage has to be seen to be believed. It is expected that repairs and reconstruction will begin next year. The complete assessment and general plan for moving forward will likely be done in the next few months. But it is known that the significant nature of the work which needs to be done, not to mention the sheer volume, will require materials and equipment which is not going to be allowed to weather and degrade under the snow over the winter. Significant work is not expected to begin until spring.

    Patience will be required. This isn't going to get fixed any time soon.

    In addition to the numerous examples of damage one might expect after a significant rain event, there are at least 5 places on Apex trail proper which evoke that "Oh... wow..." reaction. See a couple examples below.

    20 photos can be seen here: Apex Flood Damage Tour - 2013.10.24 - a set on Flickr

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    Doesn't look like such a big hole ...


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    ... until you are down in it, looking back up at the trail.


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    Thanks for sharing your photos; it helps to see the scope of the mess.

    Holes like that are part of what make the 401 trail in CB so much fun!


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    Hole'y hell thats nuts

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    Eh, just bunny hop it
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    Whoa! That's some serious damage. Didn't realize it was so bad. How bad is Enchanted Forest? Guess I won't be going there anytime soon. Thx for the update.

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    Mother nature is so environmentally unfriendly at times.
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    A few wood skinnies heading up and some gap jumps coming down - problem solved
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    I get there is a lot of damage but I don't see why they need to completely close the park. Even if trails are unrideable, they are hikeable. Let people deal with it however they want. It's nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    I get there is a lot of damage but I don't see why they need to completely close the park. Even if trails are unrideable, they are hikeable. Let people deal with it however they want. It's nature.
    Unfortunately people will start making their own paths to get around the damage rather than hike through it and "crowd sourced" trails aren't necessarily the most sustainable.

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    That's it? seriously. Mini-x a few days of hard work and it's good as new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve71 View Post
    Mother nature is so environmentally unfriendly at times.
    ...or is it the beauty of Mother Nature at work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by liqwid View Post
    Unfortunately people will start making their own paths to get around the damage rather than hike through it and "crowd sourced" trails aren't necessarily the most sustainable.

    I suppose that's sort of a good excuse, kind of.

    I think it's a bit ridiculous to take a year on this though. And to not do any work until spring? Sheesh. There are plenty of workable days during the winter that they could be making progress on it, while there is less demand for the park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    I suppose that's sort of a good excuse, kind of.

    I think it's a bit ridiculous to take a year on this though. And to not do any work until spring? Sheesh. There are plenty of workable days during the winter that they could be making progress on it, while there is less demand for the park.
    Yeah part of me thinks they're happy to have it shut down for a bit thinking they'll deal with less complaints. But thats what my tinfoil hat tells me.

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    i agree, the time those 20 people spent gawking at the hole coulda been spent shoveling and filling in the holes.

    i do respect that you "gotta see it to believe" kind of things. I just can't fathom how that much water formed rushing rivers like that. . . the top of the mountain above is only a few hundred vertical feet above.

    thanks for sharing. i volunteered yesterday to help at lair o' the bear and was not stoked to be told we were redoing the picnic area at the base of the park. "oh, the trail is fine" said the ranger. so i said. . . "what about apex??" they really have limited staff to help manage the projects and are tying to knock out the easy ones first.

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    Impressive amount of Monday morning quarterbacking around here. Think about it this way - JCOS has an impressive amount of damage to deal with in *ADDITION* to the work that they already had.

    Unless, of course, you assume JCOS is sitting around twiddling their thumbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post

    Unless, of course, you assume JCOS is sitting around twiddling their thumbs.
    Yes I do imagine this.

    I also imagine that there is all kinds of money laying around to contract this work out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post

    I also imagine that there is all kinds of money laying around to contract this work out.
    As a JeffCo county taxpayer... I'm pretty sure this is not the case.

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    What about all the flood relief money? Stimulus money? Let's stimulate the economy and fix that park!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by billybobzia View Post
    A few wood skinnies heading up and some gap jumps coming down - problem solved
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    Apex Flood Damage Photos - Closure to continue well into 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    What about all the flood relief money? Stimulus money? Let's stimulate the economy and fix that park!!!!
    Must be a fun time in ignorance land. How does the coffee taste there?

    Apex is near the bottom of the list dude. When Jeffco sends you the email for trail work make sure you respond quick because the tools will get picked up quick by the rest of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleTrail View Post
    ...or is it the beauty of Mother Nature at work?
    No, it's a grand conspiracy of anti bike, anti fun people at JeffCo - They manufactured this to keep bikes out.

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    This is a neighborhood park, after all. How can that be closed for a year? JCOS should provide legal releases and then allow us in. BTW most of the trails are in great shape. Sure the gulch is damaged but that is only a small fraction of the park. I guess being an old timer when back in the day folks accepted reasonable hazards and and didn't just roll over when the man said to.

    The idea about crowd sourcing the repair is a good idea too. I've participated and I am sure many more would too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve71 View Post
    Mother nature is so environmentally unfriendly at times.
    That occurred to me too. JCOS needs to ban mother nature from these trails in order to preserve them from now on. Or at least have them direction for rain on certain days.
    You have just been mentally Rick Roll'd. Yup you're thinking about it right now aren't you? Don't fight it.

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    The east trailhead at White Ranch is open again. There were a few obvious spots they fixed, and there's a pretty narrow stretch of Shorthorn, but overall in good shape.
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