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    Any lights best Magicshines for Winter use?

    Seems like the trend towards the flashlight style light ignores those of use who ride below freezing, or even below zero. Batteries very unhappy outside of jacket!

    So, in the two-piece lights world, is there anything that now beats Magicshine for value? I had some early units and got the replacement batteries and have been chugging along fine since (occasional use) but the battery capacity is dropping and there are lots of brighter models now. Any experience with Magicshine quality of late?

    Quite frankly I think the light reviews here have gotten weak and commuter-centric. I believe this site has mountain in the name.

    Thoughts?

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    Li-ion batteries...I have never had a battery issue related to cold, down to 0 degrees. Battery is always on my head or my top-tube.

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    How about a light built by a local front range Mountain Biker that has been building them for 6 years now? My lights have been used in the Iditarod Invitational by the previous 6 year record holder (his record fell this year due to unseasonable conditions). My lights are more expensive than the cheap Chinese stuff, but that is because I buy quality components that I know I can stand behind for years (I don't care how long you have owned it, I will stand behind it). Here is a pic I got from a customer in Anchorage, Alaska. He said other lights he tried would not even turn on at these temps -

    Any lights best Magicshines for Winter use?-alaska-temps.jpg

    I use quality Li-Ion packs that I rubber dip that seems to help insulate them a bit. Shoot me an email and we can chat about what you are looking for. Here is an example of someone that purchased a Chinese light and was not getting expected runtimes.

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    I know you can get a Chinese light nowadays for $25 but you have to ask yourself how they can possibly do it at those prices. By cutting every possible corner they can.


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    Oh, I have. And not just Magicshine- expensive Niterider Li-Ion set-up went out in a race below freezing. The degree of power loss is related to battery drain rate too. At -10C (14) if you have a light on high you can lose 50%+. Now if the light itself is warming the battery (sounds like you have self-contained units) that is different, but then in hot weather that design can cause premature death of the battery. All a balancing act.

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    Ameoba rocks!! I have had my light from Scar in very cold temps and it worked great! Trust me, his product is well worth the $$!

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    Amoeba for the win: scar offers a high-quality product & the BEST customer service out there!
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    Another vote for the Ameoba!

    A great light in a small package, I run mine on my helmet, battery as well, and don't even notice that it's there. Its a much better setup than keeping the battery in the pack or a jacket pocket and dealing with a long wire between the two. Well over 2 yrs of winter riding on mine and still going strong, not having to worry about it cutting out on me mid-ride is definitely worth the extra money over some of the alternatives. The only problem I've had with mine is forgetting to charge it every couple of rides but I can't blame that on the light.

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    I switched from Niterider to Amoeba this year. Can't say enough good things about the light and the customer service. Go on Co Springs Wed night ride and you will be convinced.
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    Re: Any lights best Magicshines for Winter use?

    Amoeba. Buy local, support local, get the best light for the night!

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    I get SCAR sloppy eighths. It's survived me falling on my head a few times, bitter cold, hot summer nights, well worth it.
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    The only thing you have to figure out is don't fall down. To keep riding the bike.

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    This is turning into the Amoeba thread, but I echo what everyone else is saying about them. I've been running them for 5 years now and had LED upgrades on both my helmet and bar mount (pretty cool that they can be upgraded easily when new LED technology comes out). During that time, Scar has always taken care of me--despite the fact that I really put the lights through their paces. In terms of cold, I've had mine out below 10 degrees once or twice, and I can't count the number of rides I've done less than 30 degrees without ever having a battery issue in the cold.

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    $25 is pretty hard to beat but....

    I have been night riding for ~12 years and Before Scar (BS) used the $80 performance lights (non-LED). They did OK but I had to buy a new one after 2 - 3 years as the battery charge no longer lasted (or was as bright). I am a fairly aggressive night rider (~3 night rides/week throughout winter) and went in with Scar's light 4-5 years ago. No loss of charge or brightness yet. Consistently ride below 30 degrees and often below 20. I could see buying the Chinese lights if you only do occasional night riding but anything more and the higher quality starts to make a big difference. YMMV.

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    I have lots of lights, including an Amoeba that I really like. I also have two of these cheaper SolarStorms, which have served me well:

    SolarStorm/FandyFire X2

    edit: the SolarStorm light heads seem good, but the battery capacity is low. I tend to use my better MagicShine compatible batteries, not the SolarStorm ones...
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    Quote Originally Posted by baker View Post
    I have lots of lights, including an Amoeba that I really like. I also have two of these cheaper SolarStorms, which have served me well:

    SolarStorm/FandyFire X2


    edit: the SolarStorm light heads seem good, but the battery capacity is low. I tend to use my better MagicShine compatible batteries, not the SolarStorm ones...
    Interesting. I think those might be below my quality threshold. Nice design, but lots of problems. My guess is Magicshine is a better value, for me at least.

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    Nice looking product. I really like to support local but I am an occasional night rider and I need bar and helmet. $450 is just not in the game plan for something I use a few times a year. If I were a commuter, I'd be on that!

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    It's pretty Cliche but true. I buy a little more than I can afford. In the end it turns out being cheaper.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hernando Gutierrez
    The only thing you have to figure out is don't fall down. To keep riding the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVO View Post
    Nice looking product. I really like to support local but I am an occasional night rider and I need bar and helmet. $450 is just not in the game plan for something I use a few times a year. If I were a commuter, I'd be on that!
    Everyone seems to really like their Amoeba lights but if they're not in the cards....

    Amazon.com: NEW Cree XM-L T6 LED 1600-Lumens Bicycle Headlight 3 Mode Rechargeable Bike Light +battery+Charger+head strap: Sports & Outdoors

    I don't own one, but for the price, I think I'll give it a go myself. I've bought some really cheap ( < $4 shipped), direct from china LED flashlights, and they've worked really well... much better than most made in china crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaycastlerock View Post
    It's pretty Cliche but true. I buy a little more than I can afford. In the end it turns out being cheaper.
    I generally follow that rule (my Ti hardtail with ancient X.O. would be testament) on bike stuff but I'm going to disagree on lights. I've gotten a lot of good use out of my Magicshines over several years. And LED technology is moving at a really fast clip. Now if Amoeba has a good upgrade path that might change the equation, but I still don't have $450 to drop on these. I might just DIY new battery packs and be done with it.

    Good ten year old bikes can still ride great. Good ten year old lights either no longer work or suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVO View Post
    Now if Amoeba has a good upgrade path that might change the equation....
    Kristian and PBR just had their drivers and bulbs upgraded after 5-6 years of running the same stuff.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hernando Gutierrez
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    Quote Originally Posted by SVO View Post
    I generally follow that rule (my Ti hardtail with ancient X.O. would be testament) on bike stuff but I'm going to disagree on lights. I've gotten a lot of good use out of my Magicshines over several years. And LED technology is moving at a really fast clip. Now if Amoeba has a good upgrade path that might change the equation, but I still don't have $450 to drop on these. I might just DIY new battery packs and be done with it.

    Good ten year old bikes can still ride great. Good ten year old lights either no longer work or suck.
    Please see post #12 below regarding the upgrade topic. Or better yet - just email scar and talk with him. He's good people.

    Here's a thought - get a good Amoeba light for the bar and a cheap-o for the helmet (or da other way 'round).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve71 View Post
    Everyone seems to really like their Amoeba lights but if they're not in the cards....

    Amazon.com: NEW Cree XM-L T6 LED 1600-Lumens Bicycle Headlight 3 Mode Rechargeable Bike Light +battery+Charger+head strap: Sports & Outdoors

    I don't own one, but for the price, I think I'll give it a go myself. I've bought some really cheap ( < $4 shipped), direct from china LED flashlights, and they've worked really well... much better than most made in china crap.
    Yeah, that's a version of what I have now. Reviews griping that it doesn't meet the lumen spec- hilarious! Very questionable QC. It is what it is. At that price it wouldn't pay to even DIY new batteries. Silly cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVO View Post
    I generally follow that rule (my Ti hardtail with ancient X.O. would be testament) on bike stuff but I'm going to disagree on lights. I've gotten a lot of good use out of my Magicshines over several years. And LED technology is moving at a really fast clip. Now if Amoeba has a good upgrade path that might change the equation, but I still don't have $450 to drop on these. I might just DIY new battery packs and be done with it.

    Good ten year old bikes can still ride great. Good ten year old lights either no longer work or suck.

    Sorry I am just getting around to answer your question, been carting the family around in the weather this evening. Hard to tell what the future holds as far as form/fit factor. I can currently upgrade any light I have built in the last six years to the most current release of LED's and reflectors for $60. I am currently using Cree XP-G2's and XM-L2's. I have been using these versions for about a year now while most manufacturers are just transitioning to them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scar View Post
    I can currently upgrade any light I have built in the last six years to the most current release of LED's and reflectors for $60. I am currently using Cree XP-G2's and XM-L2's.
    One of the coolest parts about upgrading is that each upgrade has had noticeable increase in light, yet still uses the same battery, and has had the same run time (gotta love the heroic pace of LED technology!). My helmet light has had the same battery the whole time I've had it (5 seasons), and it's still going strong. This saves $$ in the long run, and is certainly better for the environment than getting a new $40 light/battery every season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVO View Post
    Nice looking product. I really like to support local but I am an occasional night rider and I need bar and helmet. $450 is just not in the game plan for something I use a few times a year. If I were a commuter, I'd be on that!
    With an Amoeba or two you just may become addicted to the night like we all are!! Granted I have fallen off of the t.i.t.s. Rides for a bit but they light the $hit out of my local trails a lot!! And I bought my gal one too and she loves riding at night ! As long as it's not too cold ;-)
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    OP SVO

    If you ever want to ride ridgeline sometime or a t.i.t.s ride I'd be happy to loan you one of my amoebas to try out for the night - of course after this snow packs down!

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    I run an Amoeba for my helmet and a Magicshine on my bars.
    The Amoeba has taken a beating, it's going on it's fourth winter and is still kicking. I can't recommend it enough.
    With that being said, I also recommend the Magicshine lamp. It too has taken a beating and is very dependable.
    Here's the Magicshine I would recommend, and several other Inflexibles would too as they run the same lamp.
    Action-LED-Lights ? Magicshine MJ-880-L2*, 2400 lumen bike light set

    Although because of it's weight and size I would not run this as a helmet lamp, that's where the Amoeba shine's due to it's small size.

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    'Meeba. Scar's the man.
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    Any lights best Magicshines for Winter use?

    Get the amoeba... You won't be sorry. Only regret I have is not enough funds for a second light....


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    Quote Originally Posted by scar View Post
    I can currently upgrade any light I have built in the last six years to the most current release of LED's and reflectors for $60. I am currently using Cree XP-G2's and XM-L2's.
    Very good to know!
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    I'll add another ++ for the Amoeba lights. High quality, light weight built locally - hard to beat. I had used a Niterider light previously and have no interest in going back. Scar is the man!

    I am more than happy to endorse a quality product that is made locally by a fellow rider.

    Full discloser, I have not been paid or coerced to provide positive feedback on the Amoeba lights, they are just that good!!!

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    Ok, I'll have to go +++ on the Amoeba lights. Everything everyone else here and beyond have said. Excellent lights, excellent service, excellent guy. Can't vouch for his riding ;-)
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    My little $27 made in china amazon light arrived, along with the (self proclaimed) king of helmet lights - cyclops solstice HID (huge and heavy for a helmet light).

    I just braved the 0 deg temps to do a little comparison.

    Gotta say, while the solstice produced more light with a longer throw, the $27 light could still hold it's own up to ~80 yards or so. No it wasn't quite as bright - guessing around 1/2 - 3/4 of the perceived light of the HID. But it was significantly smaller and lighter. The solstice was $250 sans any batteries (I'm going to run it off my KTM's stator).

    I wanted to use the Amazon light as a headlamp, but the included hardware sucks for that application. The elastic head band could only fit a small child's head WTF!!??

    Who knows how the cheap-o light will hold up over time, but it's very impressive for $27. A no brainier if you're not ready to shell out the big $ for a quality light, or you just want a nice light for your commuter or beater bike.
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    Jeez....Scar/Amoeba's customer service is unmatchable...especially if you live in the front range area.

    I asked him to send me a car charger 2 years ago. He calls me to ask where I work, and meets up with me during lunch. He pretty much wouldn't take no for an answer. And to make that clear...I never met him before that meet-up.

    I am on 3 years with my Amoeba, and plan on buying a 2nd in the next month. I need some handlebar lighting.

    Scar...get that rear red light up for sale...I'll buy one immediately!

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    The Red Amoeba is ready. Got one process right now for a guy in Italy. Shoot me an email (address below in my signature) and I can give mine to demo.


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    I have pondered the red, now with a new location of work I may look more into it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scar View Post
    The Red Amoeba is ready. Got one process right now for a guy in Italy. Shoot me an email (address below in my signature) and I can give mine to demo.

    Have you ever though about marketing to OHV users? Requirements would be a little different due to the increased speed, but I'd imagine it's a pretty big market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve71 View Post
    Have you ever though about marketing to OHV users? Requirements would be a little different due to the increased speed, but I'd imagine it's a pretty big market.
    I have a few local OHV (motorcycle) guys running my lights on their helmets powered by Li-Ion batteries. But I agree this is a large market. I can get a driver that would work off the power of the motorcycle, probably be more suited for a bar lamp. I can tailor the LED/reflector combos for either a spot or a flood beam pattern. Shoot me an email, I would be interested in what kind of voltage requirements are coming off today's motorcycles as well as what type of beam pattern is preferred (I know this varies from person to person)

    I also have one on an airplane in Canada being used as a landing light

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    This is from his email -

    I finally was able to get some night shots of my landing light setup. I am using duo mode with 1000 mA for high beam, L2 for low beam. It is ideal for my application. High beam lights up what I need while low beam is reduced enough not to destroy the night vision of every pilot in the region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scar View Post
    I also have one on an airplane in Canada being used as a landing light
    Awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Funrover View Post
    I have pondered the red, now with a new location of work I may look more into it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scar View Post
    I have a few local OHV (motorcycle) guys running my lights on their helmets powered by Li-Ion batteries. But I agree this is a large market. I can get a driver that would work off the power of the motorcycle, probably be more suited for a bar lamp. I can tailor the LED/reflector combos for either a spot or a flood beam pattern. Shoot me an email, I would be interested in what kind of voltage requirements are coming off today's motorcycles as well as what type of beam pattern is preferred (I know this varies from person to person)

    I also have one on an airplane in Canada being used as a landing light

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    This is from his email -

    I finally was able to get some night shots of my landing light setup. I am using duo mode with 1000 mA for high beam, L2 for low beam. It is ideal for my application. High beam lights up what I need while low beam is reduced enough not to destroy the night vision of every pilot in the region.

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    Cool pic of the plane!

    Stators put out ~12v, but most (all?) of the LED and HID lights require DC, so if you have an older bike like mine that's not electric start, you need to add batteries. Then of course you just hook the light straight to the battery.

    I can't say what works best for motos since this will be my first light. Thumper talk / KTM talk and Snowest are all active forums that would be able to answer that better that I could.

    But from everything I've read, the Cyclops Solstice is the best helmet light according to the moto crowd. That would be you main competition.

    Since everyone here vouches for you, I don't mind lending you my Solstice for a week, so you can check out the competition. I can't use it right now anyway. I live up near Kenosha Pass, but I'll be down in Lakewood on Thursday around 1:00pm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaycastlerock View Post
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    Any lights best Magicshines for Winter use?

    I'm sure scar's lights are good but I went the mass market approach. I like my Cygolite TridenX 1100 Xtra. With the extra large battery I can run the light on high and still get a 3+ hr ride in on cold wrinter nights. Please note that most if not all li-ion batteries will lose a good 50% of their charge in frigid weather.

    With the normal batteries it would be touch and go on the lights staying up in the depth if winter. Now, with the Xtra battery, it is not a concern. Btw there is now a brighter 1300 version of this light.

    I balance this light with a Cygolite MityCross on my helmet. Good combination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNormsk View Post
    Please note that most if not all li-ion batteries will lose a good 50% of their charge in frigid weather.
    I am not trying to start an argument, but I am going to have to disagree with this statement (at least based on my experience and others that use my lights). Yes, you can expect a decrease in run times in extreme cold weather, but from my experience with my stuff it is only about a 10% loss. It is just a theory, but I believe that the rubber coating that I use on my batteries helps protect/insulate them from the cold (once again, just a theory).

    I can do many configurations of batteries, 2600mah packs, 5200mah packs, 7800mah packs, and larger. Just depends on how big of a battery pack you want to lug around.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve71 View Post
    Cool pic of the plane!

    Stators put out ~12v, but most (all?) of the LED and HID lights require DC, so if you have an older bike like mine that's not electric start, you need to add batteries. Then of course you just hook the light straight to the battery.

    I can't say what works best for motos since this will be my first light. Thumper talk / KTM talk and Snowest are all active forums that would be able to answer that better that I could.

    But from everything I've read, the Cyclops Solstice is the best helmet light according to the moto crowd. That would be you main competition.

    Since everyone here vouches for you, I don't mind lending you my Solstice for a week, so you can check out the competition. I can't use it right now anyway. I live up near Kenosha Pass, but I'll be down in Lakewood on Thursday around 1:00pm.

    Hey Steve, I took a look at the Cyclops Solstice spec's, kind of surprised that HID is preferred. I am not real familiar with HID, but I have heard that "hot starts" (reigniting the bulb/ballast) can be a problem when stopping and trying to turn on the light again. The bulbs are also fragile and expensive to replace because of the ballast (looks like it is $80 for a replacement Solstice bulb ). They are also very power hungry like halogens are. Used to be that all HID's were real blue in color, looks like Cyclops is using a 5500K tint which is more yellow like that of halogen. I use 6500K tint in my lights which is a nice white tint which I think is closer to daytime light. I can do any tint you want if you prefer something other that 6500K.

    If you are still going to be down in the Lakewood area tomorrow, I would love to hook up with and meet you! I can bring my demo kit with me and give you a set-up in exchange for the Cyclops to give you an idea of what I can do. I work off of 6th and Simms. Please shoot me an email (my email is below in my signature) and we can arrange a meet-up I will give you cell phone number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Funrover View Post
    I have pondered the red, now with a new location of work I may look more into it!
    Hey Aaron, just wanted to clarify as far as what I can do for a rear tailight. The one that I have just recently been offering and is pictured above is using Red Cree XP-E2 LED's with a driver that offers multi mode in steady and strobing outputs. This version is a little more expensive than my standard set-up as the driver is a bit more expensive. That saying, I can still do a standard set-up (on/off only) using the red LED's for a rear light if that is what somebody wants. That is what is so great about my stuff, it is all "custom built" to order, just tell me what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scar View Post
    That is what is so great about my stuff, it is all "custom built" to order, just tell me what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scar View Post
    Hey Steve, I took a look at the Cyclops Solstice spec's, kind of surprised that HID is preferred. I am not real familiar with HID, but I have heard that "hot starts" (reigniting the bulb/ballast) can be a problem when stopping and trying to turn on the light again. The bulbs are also fragile and expensive to replace because of the ballast (looks like it is $80 for a replacement Solstice bulb ). They are also very power hungry like halogens are. Used to be that all HID's were real blue in color, looks like Cyclops is using a 5500K tint which is more yellow like that of halogen. I use 6500K tint in my lights which is a nice white tint which I think is closer to daytime light. I can do any tint you want if you prefer something other that 6500K.

    If you are still going to be down in the Lakewood area tomorrow, I would love to hook up with and meet you! I can bring my demo kit with me and give you a set-up in exchange for the Cyclops to give you an idea of what I can do. I work off of 6th and Simms. Please shoot me an email (my email is below in my signature) and we can arrange a meet-up I will give you cell phone number.

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    I just sent you an email with my cell number and details on where we can meet up.

    LEDs have a ton of advantages over HIDs for all the reasons you mention. But the cyclops guys were pretty adamant that their HID is a better light than their current LED offerings (they do sell a LED helmet light also).

    He calls the Solstice a 6th gear light - as in you can ride in 6th gear without fear of out-riding your lights. 6th gear on my KTM tops out at around 80mph. Supposedly the HID just projects further.

    According to cyclops, guys are winning night races with just their HID helmet light. I think it's 35watts.

    Anyway, you can play with it and see what you think. I'm sure it's the wrong tool for mtbing (no enough air flow for cooling) and the wrong beam pattern (who does 80 on an mtb!). But if you're thinking about the moto and sled market it should give you an idea of what the current top dog is.

    I also like that I can run it off the stator, so I don't have to worry about reduced battery performance in the cold weather we get up here at 10Kft. Then again maybe the cord will be a total pita.
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    Any lights best Magicshines for Winter use?

    [QUOTE=scar;10870196]I am not trying to start an argument, but I am going to have to disagree with this statement...
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    Oh yes you are

    Okay perhaps 50% is not accurate. It's a number pulled from a memory in my head for something I vaguely remember reading.. Regardless batteries do lose power in cold weather and I'm not talking about only light batteries - cameras, cars etc.

    I think the Cygolite batteries are high quality and I am still riding with some that are over 5 years old that power my helmet lights and those on my cross bike.

    I still stand by my original statement however to the OP. Irrespective of which lights he/ she eventually gets if they are to be ridden primarily in the depth of winter then be on the conservative side when it comes to battery time. If you plan to ride for 2 hours have a battery that can last 4 hour. Better yet, have a back up light.

    When I do my epic night rides (those around 4 hours) I carry 3, sometimes 4 lights.

    The Cygolite TridenX 1100 on my bars. A Cygolite MityCross 480 on my helmet, a backup MityCross 350 in my pack and a smaller flashlight, rated around 200 lumens.

    Recently though the lights have been so reliable that I'm tending to ride with just the main two these days.

    For now my lights are on charge for a chilly ride tomorrow night.

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