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    Government Legalizes Horse Slaughter for Human Consumption

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    Horse slaughter plants are legal again in the United States. Restrictions on horse meat processing for human consumption have been lifted.

    In a bipartisan effort, the House of Representatives and the United States Senate approved the Conference Committee report on spending bill H2112, which among other things, funds the United States Department of Agriculture. On November 18th, as the country was celebrating Thanksgiving, President Obama signed a law, allowing Americans to kill and eat horses. Essentially, one turkey was pardoned in the presence of worldwide media while in the shadows, buried under pages of fiscal regulation, millions of horses were sentenced to death.

    Horse slaughter has been prohibited in the United States as funding for inspections of horses in transit and at slaughter houses was non-existent. This worked because the horse meat cannot be sold for human consumption without such inspections. The House version of the bill retained the de-funding language and the Senate version did not. The conference committee charged with reconciling the two opted to not include it. The result is that it is now legal to slaughter horses for humans to eat.

    Notwithstanding that 70% of Americans oppose horse slaughter, that President Obama made a campaign promise to permanently ban horse slaughter and exports of horses for human consumption (horses can be sent to Mexico and Canada), that documentation of animal cruelty, slaughterhouse stench, fluid runoff and negative community impact exists, it is taxpayers that will bear the costs!

    Wyoming state representative Sue Wallis and her pro-slaughter group estimate that between 120,000 and 200,000 horses will be killed for human consumption per year and that Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Georgia and Missouri, are considering opening slaughter plants.

    During these trying times, is the only thing that Democrats and Republicans can agree on is that Americans need to eat horses?

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    I never would have guessed Argentina as a major horse meat producer since the beef is soooo good down there(best steak I ever had) but look at Mexico at #2.

    Anyone want to bet those are US horses taken across the border b/c we had no processing plants here domestically?

    It's sweeter than beef like venison so they say.

    <table class="wikitable sortable jquery-tablesorter"><thead><tr><th title="Sort ascending" class="headerSort">Country</th> <th title="Sort ascending" class="headerSort">Animals</th> <th title="Sort ascending" class="headerSort">Production in metric tons</th> </tr></thead> <caption>Major Horse meat Production Countries, 2005<sup id="cite_ref-production2005_24-0" class="reference">[25]</sup><sup class="noprint Inline-Template" style="white-space: nowrap;">[dated info]</sup></caption> <tbody> <tr> <td>China</td> <td>1,700,000</td> <td>204,000</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Mexico</td> <td>626,000</td> <td>78,876</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Kazakhstan</td> <td>340,000</td> <td>55,100</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Mongolia</td> <td>310,000</td> <td>38,000</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Argentina</td> <td>255,000</td> <td>55,600</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Italy</td> <td>213,000</td> <td>48,000</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Brazil</td> <td>162,000</td> <td>21,200</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Kyrgyzstan</td> <td>150,000</td> <td>25,000</td> </tr> <tr class="sortbottom"> <td>Worldwide
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    </td> <td>4,727,829</td> <td>720,168</td></tr></tbody></table>

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    I've wondered how horse meat would taste every time I have to pay the feedstore bill for my daughter's pony.. hmmmm.

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    So... what are you saying Schnauzers? Will I be seeing you on the trail like this at a bike/equestrian encounter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    So... what are you saying Schnauzers? Will I be seeing you on the trail like this at a bike/equestrian encounter?

    That's funny. Just the thought of eating horse meat makes me gag. I suppose if someone slipped it by and said it was lamb, I probably couldn't tell.

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    This story sounds like a plant by the Adopt an Unwanted Pony Foundation.

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    Pretty sad in my opinion that we pay elected officials to waste time on crap like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2wheelsnotfour View Post
    Pretty sad in my opinion that we pay elected officials to was time on crap like this.
    To be fair, this was just a tiny little part of a $125.5B annual appropriations bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hackmonkey View Post
    Horse tastes good!
    Agreed. I have only had it in Europe, for obvious reasons. But a horse steak in a nice garlic sauce with a Belgian Ale. Tasty.

    Hopefully dog food is next.

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    Generally, I just pick the oats out of the horse droppings and eat those. Spare the horses and recycle at the same time is my motto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka View Post
    Generally, I just pick the oats out of the horse droppings and eat those. Spare the horses and recycle at the same time is my motto.
    I refer to really hawt weemon as "peanuts" under the same premise, but at least wee bee the same species
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    I refer to really hawt weemon as "peanuts" under the same premise, but at least wee bee the same species
    Hey, the people in the Nazi death camps did it, so I figure it's good enough for me. Plus, it gets rid of any invasive plant species that might have sneaked into the horsey food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka View Post
    Hey, the people in the Nazi death camps did it, so I figure it's good enough for me. Plus, it gets rid of any invasive plant species that might have sneaked into the horsey food.
    Man, you invoked the Nazis card pretty quick! This would be an discussion ender, except...
    The only flaws, you're not endangered of being melted and you also have grocery stores...even if they'll start having Seabiscuit (sp?) steaks in the butcher display.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka View Post
    Hey, the people in the Nazi death camps did it, so I figure it's good enough for me. Plus, it gets rid of any invasive plant species that might have sneaked into the horsey food.
    Uh, yeah... Let' me point out an important distinction here. Jews are human beings, like you and me. Horses are livestock, like cows pigs goats sheep birds and deer elk antelope that we already harvest by the million.

    WTF? I was raised in a religion effing pretty close to Jew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anomad View Post
    Uh, yeah... Let' me point out an important distinction here. Jews are human beings, like you and me. Horses are livestock, like cows pigs goats sheep birds and deer elk antelope that we already harvest by the million.

    WTF? I was raised in a religion effing pretty close to Jew.
    Hello, I AM Jewish.

    Let me explain. I'm vegetarian. I like the horses, don't mind them on trails. I think it's just as absurd to resort to eating their droppings as eating them. That's my attempt at sarcasm that obviously did not come across. In other words, I'd rather eat the recycled oats than the horse.

    Now it's time to bash vegetarians... I've opened two cans of worms.

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    Being a vegetarian for health reason is different than being vegetarian for political reasons. Also, a vegetarian diet is not one of necessity, rather one of choice.

    I'd say this might go a long way to eliminating the feral horse and burro populations that are destroying natural places in the West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogbie View Post
    I'd say this might go a long way to eliminating the feral horse and burro populations that are destroying natural places in the West.
    Ah, but the burro population in Red Rocks, Nevada is protected. No eating them. Also, the wild horse population on top of Grand Mesa outside of Grand Junction is protected. The only way you're going to get to eat a horse is if you choose to eat Susie the quarter horse who stepped in a prairie dog hole and went lame.

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    The feral horses/burros should be eliminated. They cause more harm than their history and heritage make up for. Not to mention the cost for managing the feral horse/burro population is far greater than the amount spent on protecting the endangered species whose habitat the feral animals destroy.

    The BLM may as well make a profit off these destructive animals, since they cost hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to manage.

    Currently the West is 12,000 animals over its manageable limit. If deer/elk populations were that far over their limits extra hunting licenses would be issued to bring it down, why not the horses as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogbie View Post
    The feral horses/burros should be eliminated. They cause more harm than their history and heritage make up for. Not to mention the cost for managing the feral horse/burro population is far greater than the amount spent on protecting the endangered species whose habitat the feral animals destroy.

    The BLM may as well make a profit off these destructive animals, since they cost hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to manage.

    Currently the West is 12,000 animals over its manageable limit. If deer/elk populations were that far over their limits extra hunting licenses would be issued to bring it down, why not the horses as well?
    It's the same damned reason I get in trouble pestering the prairie dogs: people think they're cute. Well, you take a big animal like a horse or burro that people can romanticize about being "wild", and you've got a problem convincing those people that the animals have overpopulated or are causing a lot of destruction. Deer and elk are ubiquitous in the west; therefore, killing a few thousand is not going to make a difference. We'll still see them. But most people believe that horses and burros are limited in number and are in isolated locations (read "far from people"), so they are not causing any problem. Out of sight, out of mind. You don't get many people complaining that the wild horses are eating the bark off their trees and killing them. Put another way, the statistics don't impress unless there is constant, visible evidence.

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    So, why is it we here in this nation can become so incensed w/ eating horses and/or dogs and not give a flying phvck about cows, while Hindus get so bent out of shape about cows?

    I say, do as my culture does (Chinese)...if it has a circulatory system, it has been in a wok and then a dinner plate at some point in history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    So, why is it we here in this nation can become so incensed w/ eating horses and/or dogs and not give a flying phvck about cows, while Hindus get so bent out of shape about cows?

    I say, do as my culture does (Chinese)...if it has a circulatory system, it has been in a wok and then a dinner plate at some point in history.


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    conspiracy?

    Allowing horses to be slaughtered in the US for human consumption may be a sneaky way to Eventually add Horses to the Endangered Species List and prohibit the killing of horses and end development/exploration on gazillions of acres of public land where said horses roam.

    ...Naw - I'm sure allowing horses to be slaughtered for human consumptions is all about creating Jobs. Yeah, that's the ticket. Forget about what I wrote above - go Occupy a Horse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    His culture has a few thousand years on yours.. they've had time to figure out recipes for more stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Associating "success" to humans is a bit premature, yeah?

    I'd use "lucky".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Associating "success" to humans is a bit premature, yeah?

    I'd use "lucky".
    Well, when it comes down to evolution, "success" and "luck" are interchangable nouns, dontcha think?

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    i wish someone with a brain would go work in washington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Well, when it comes down to evolution, "success" and "luck" are interchangable nouns, dontcha think?
    By success, I thought you were referring to things we humans have done, or not done, to promote or demote the propagation of the species. By this metric, I'd say we're fertile...you know, vagina == clown cars...and not so much on success. And, what we're doing to the planet is basically the same as taking a dump on our own dinner plate. So, I'm on the page that the jury is still out on success.

    By luck, I mean things like 2005 YU55. We came out of last of the 5 known E.L.E.s and nothing super big has hit us in a while. That huge hole in AZ is rumored to have been made by something only 100ft in diameter (or was it 100m?)... Anyway, it won't take a very big rock to end us...and there are a lot of big rocks floating out there.

    But back on pony steaks...who knows, maybe it'll taste good. Considering how many other nations around the world eat it, maybe they know something we don't. Hell, how do you tell a Hindu that a shredded beef burrito smothered in green chili is just bomb-diggidy?! I mean, who woulda thunk emus are tasty!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by getupgetdown View Post
    i wish someone with a brain would go work in washington.
    You may get your wish. Picture this:

    Newt rides his stallion up onto the platform to be sworn in. He takes the oath of office. Then he immediately consumes his stallion. Everyone claps and whistles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    By success, I thought you were referring to things we humans have done, or not done, to promote or demote the propagation of the species. By this metric, I'd say we're fertile...you know, vagina == clown cars...and not so much on success. And, what we're doing to the planet is basically the same as taking a dump on our own dinner plate. So, I'm on the page that the jury is still out on success.
    I'd say your definition of evolutionary "success" is way too narrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka View Post
    You may get your wish. Picture this:

    Newt rides his stallion up onto the platform to be sworn in. He takes the oath of office. Then he immediately consumes his stallion. Everyone claps and whistles.
    If he promises to do this, he has my vote on pure shock factor alone!! However, he must marry, then divorce or cheat on the horse first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snigs View Post
    If he promises to do this, he has my vote on pure shock factor alone!! However, he must marry, then divorce or cheat on the horse first.
    Can the horse be on its deathbed with cancer? If so, then it's ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by getupgetdown View Post
    i wish someone with a brain would go work in washington.
    Yeah, good luck there!
    Oh wait, I'll write in SS, yeah?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Yeah, good luck there!
    Oh wait, I'll write in SS, yeah?
    I'm not going anywhere f**king *near* Washington. You get some other dumba$$ to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    I'm not going anywhere f**king *near* Washington. You get some other dumba$$ to go.
    See getupgetdown, anyone w/ 1/2 a brain will have this kind of response. SS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka View Post
    Also, the wild horse population on top of Grand Mesa outside of Grand Junction is protected.
    BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!

    There is no wild horse herd on the Grand Mesa.

    There is one on the Little Bookcliffs though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarateChicken View Post
    BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!

    There is no wild horse herd on the Grand Mesa.

    There is one on the Little Bookcliffs though.
    Grand Mesa, Bookcliffs, Unaweep, what's the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka View Post
    Grand Mesa, Bookcliffs, Unaweep, what's the difference?
    I'm sorry, sir, your answer was not correct==Alex "chickenman" Trabek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka View Post
    It's the same damned reason I get in trouble pestering the prairie dogs: people think they're cute. Well, you take a big animal like a horse or burro that people can romanticize about being "wild", and you've got a problem convincing those people that the animals have overpopulated or are causing a lot of destruction. Deer and elk are ubiquitous in the west; therefore, killing a few thousand is not going to make a difference. We'll still see them. But most people believe that horses and burros are limited in number and are in isolated locations (read "far from people"), so they are not causing any problem. Out of sight, out of mind. You don't get many people complaining that the wild horses are eating the bark off their trees and killing them. Put another way, the statistics don't impress unless there is constant, visible evidence.
    You're right about the romanticizing of the feral horses/burros. Part of that comes from the official name of "wild". There is a large difference between "wild" and feral. As for their heritage and history, horses and burros are turned loose by owners unable to care for them, every year. The notion that these horses are descendants from Spanish horses of the 1500s is plain wrong. There may be some ties, but at this point the genes are so watered down.

    As for prairie dogs, they need the protection. They are wild animals. Also, they are a keystone species (they being near the bottom of the food web). That fact and the fact that the black-tailed prairie dog is no longer present in 98% of it original habitat, mean they need protection. Not to mention the yearly budget for managing a feral animal outweighs the spending spent on protecting endangered/threatened/species of concern (the 5 species of prairie dogs, sage grouse, black footed ferret, and the disappearing flora of those animals' habitats).

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokefork View Post
    I'm sorry, sir, your answer was not correct==Alex "chickenman" Trabek.
    They migrated since I lived there a million years ago. That's my excuse for getting it wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka View Post
    Grand Mesa, Bookcliffs, Unaweep, what's the difference?
    The difference is geologic and spans hundreds of millions of years.

    Grand Mesa: Tertiary basalt flows (~10 Mya).

    Bookcliffs, Unaweep Canyon: primarily Cretaceous sedimentary facies (~145-65 Mya).

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    thanks rog^

    as for brokedork/immaturd, thanks for moar lulz

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    Hey chickenpoop, you must not have seen it, but they're making fun of you over on the BCOS thread. You better get over there and say something unintelligible to make yourself look even dumber. Have a nice one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarateChicken View Post
    thanks rog^

    as for brokedork/immaturd, thanks for moar lulz
    There's a button under the username for reporting posts.

    If everyone hits that button enough when ChickenDork violates TOU, which he does on most of his posts, maybe 2Melow will stop being so mellow and ban this waste of bandwidth
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarateChicken View Post
    thanks rog^

    as for brokedork/immaturd, thanks for moar lulz
    The Pa1sy musta been acting up, but my engrish can't make heads/tails of this Chicken scratch
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