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    3rd Annual Kenosha-Georgia Pass ride

    Let's make it official: the 3rd annual Kenosha ride will be Saturday, September 29th.

    Typically, we meet at the dirt lot across from the Morrison Conoco at 7:30am. We'll get the carpooling taken care of and hit the road by 8am to get on the trail by 9am. If people want to get an earlier start, it would be fine with me. Likewise, if you want to just meet at the trailhead, that works too.

    For those who haven't ridden this section of the CO trail before, plan for a ride of about 5-6 hours (except for you speed demons, you know who you are) and changing conditions. Last year was sunny and warm, the year before that, windy and rainy. This is a late season, high-country ride, so anything is possible, including snow. The full out-and-back is about 25 miles with a good bit of climbing, all pretty much over 10,000 ft. It's a great time, but be prepared. More info here: http://www.trailcentral.com/trail/tr...o.php?trail=76

    I think it's gonna be a fantastic ride this year. See ya in a month!

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    I'm in and this time, I'm better acclimated since I have been here a few months. I'll also be training with longer rides and plan on going to Georgia Pass. Hopefully that Titus (titanium Racer-X or ML?) rider is in as well as all who did it last year. That was a good group.

    Thanks for setting this up again.

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    All this hoopla, why not do Kenosha->Breck.
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by icegeek
    All this hoopla, why not do Kenosha->Breck.
    Pfft... Real men do Breck->Kenosha.
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    I'd rather Kenosha to Breck.

    Nickle, you can meet us in the middle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by athalliah
    I'd rather Kenosha to Breck.

    Nickle, you can meet us in the middle.
    Hey, I never claimed to be a "real man," did I?
    A trail thatís too difficult wouldnít exist because itíd never be used. But, trails can exist thatíre too difficult for you.

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    What's the advantage of going to Breck over Georgia? I'm just curious and would do that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer
    What's the advantage of going to Breck over Georgia? I'm just curious and would do that as well.
    Just some of the best single track in the state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer
    What's the advantage of going to Breck over Georgia? I'm just curious and would do that as well.
    There and back in one day would be some monster mileage, 65+.
    I did the Kenosha-Breck-Kenosha as an over night a few weeks back, took the trail alway to Tiger Run RV, was over 35 miles, cut some distance by returning to Colorado trail via middle fork road, second day mileage was 28 miles.
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    I'm sure we can work out a shuttle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by athalliah
    I'm sure we can work out a shuttle.
    Given the planning and coordination that was evident in this ride last year, I am confident that working in a shuttle from Breck would not be an issue.

    I did not make it last year, was hoping to join the group this time, but it looks like I will in Fruita that weekend.
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    Sweet- I looked it up. I'm in with a shuttle arrangement, of course. I would never make it back in one day

    I'm in either way.

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    Shuttle's possible

    The standard ride we've done is Kenosha-Georgia and back, but there have been people who've gone on to Breck in the past. If people want to set up a shuttle, go for it. This isn't a ride where everybody has to stay together and follow the itinerary, it's fun and freeform. The group seems to split up into 3 parts according to fitness, which is fine. That way everybody can find a group to ride in. My only concern is that nobody gets left on the trail.

    This ride's more like "hey, we're riding this trail on this day, hope to see ya there." It's a chance to have some fun and meet some fellow riders that I may only know from the forums. The more fit and experienced riders can go on ahead, try alternate routes and, yes, even continue on to Breck if they wish. The slower riders (like me ) can hang back at our own pace and keep each other company, then return to the car to have a beer and watch the near misses on 285.
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    I'll remember to bring a cooler with some food and beer.

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    kensoha to breck is really sweet...did it last weekend. the single track down to middle fork is STELLAR. it's not any harder at all to do it that way verses out and back..imo.

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    Do you think Kenosha to Breck would be doable that late into fall ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by icegeek
    All this hoopla, why not do Kenosha->Breck.
    BUMP.

    Also interested in a K -> B

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    is there like an email masta' blasta' for this ride?

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    Real men do Kenosha to Vail.

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    For Kenosha to Breck, where in Breck do you guys park? Also, how long does it take to drive from Kenosha to Breck?

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    Maybe I'll consider becoming a real man sometime next year

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    How long is the Kenosha to Breck ride - mileage, total climb, etc? I'd love to do it also, if'n I'm strong enough...

    Can't do the 29th... will be in Kansas for Kara's reunion. If there is another ride forming for another weekend, I'm down!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nOOby
    is there like an email masta' blasta' for this ride?
    This ride is a project of the Front Range Mountain Bikers Yahoo group.
    http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/FRMB/

    I was planning on doing the Kenosha-Georgia, but going on to Breck is beginning to sound very interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSD303
    How long is the Kenosha to Breck ride - mileage, total climb, etc? I'd love to do it also, if'n I'm strong enough...

    Can't do the 29th... will be in Kansas for Kara's reunion. If there is another ride forming for another weekend, I'm down!
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    I believe the millage from Kenosha > Breck is in the mid 30's. Very tempting. I'll have to see if I can get all my chores done so i can join ya'll.
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    "how long does it take to drive from Kenosha to Breck?"
    The most direct route looks like 285 to Fairplay and then 9 north to Breck, about 42 miles. Not sure if Boreas pass would cut any time as it is a dirt road, don't know when it closes for the winter either.

    Here is a good write up on the entire route.
    http://www.singletracks.com/php/trail.php?id=965

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moustache rider
    Not sure if Boreas pass would cut any time as it is a dirt road, don't know when it closes for the winter either.[/url]
    6 of one 1/2 dozen of another. It was open two weekends ago.

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    It seems to me that a shuttle would involve spending at least an hour extra on each end of the trip. Is it really worth it? I've done the Kenosha - Georgia out and back a few times and I was thinking of doing the Breck - Georgia pass out and back this time. Thoughts on which is better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbklutz
    It seems to me that a shuttle would involve spending at least an hour extra on each end of the trip. Is it really worth it? I've done the Kenosha - Georgia out and back a few times and I was thinking of doing the Breck - Georgia pass out and back this time. Thoughts on which is better?
    That's a tough call, but I think Breck -> GA wins out simply due to the two kicka$$ downhills on that route.

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    Question about CT off Tiger road in Breck

    Any one you know that trailhead off Tiger road (way up when it gets pretty rough). The trailhead going left is obviouls but theother side isn't as obvious. Where does each side go? If you take the left, you go past some sled-dog kennel and a camping area but I have no idea where it ends up. Same thing with the other side- where does that go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer
    Any one you know that trailhead off Tiger road (way up when it gets pretty rough). The trailhead going left is obviouls but theother side isn't as obvious. Where does each side go? If you take the left, you go past some sled-dog kennel and a camping area but I have no idea where it ends up. Same thing with the other side- where does that go?
    Not sure about this....but I have done it as a loop; ride up forest service road to Georgia Pass and then CT back down. The road spin is pretty fast until the end and then gets really steep....push a bike for the last half mile, unless you are an animal, I know someone who has cleaned it, but I can't wrap my head around that.

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    Weather forecast

    Well, for those who are going this Saturday, expect temps in the mid 50's, 15-20mph wind and mostly sunny with a chance of thunderstorms...in other words, be ready for anything.

    The wind's the worst IMO, but we'll be in the trees most of the time.

    Just a reminder, we'll be carpooling from the dirt lot across from the Morrison Conoco, leaving at 8am and hopefully be on the trail at 9am.

    Later--Dan

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    Flyer,

    if you go left and ride past the dogs and the paintball area you're going back down to route 9. awesome section of the ct. i have not done the section going right but it's the one going up to georgia pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfroggy
    Flyer,

    if you go left and ride past the dogs and the paintball area you're going back down to route 9. awesome section of the ct. i have not done the section going right but it's the one going up to georgia pass.
    That section to the right is *fantastic* coming down from GA Pass.

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    Guys,
    I'm considering this ride. However, I would like to be on the trail and pedaling by 7am. That said, if you get up there at 9am and get a group to depart by 9:30.... That is an unhappy space for me (mass people, etc.).

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    we rode jefferson to georgia and the "left section" both ways but never the georgia down to tiger section...i just need to figure out how to get a car to the other side to shuttle it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbfool
    6 of one 1/2 dozen of another. It was open two weekends ago.
    Using Boreas pass as a short cut to Kenosha will probably cut off 10-15 min of the drive depending on traffic. It's usually not to bad early in the morning but there is a lot of traffic on the road during "leaf peeping" season (which is past its prime BTW). Most people who are driving slow will let you by when you come up behind them though.

    As far as when is closes, the county closes it the first Monday in November.

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    Thought you guys should know there will probably be major traffic problems on 285 that morning. Other than the construction, there is a running event in memory of Emily Keyes that travels along 285 from 470 to Bailey.

    http://www.iloveyouguys.org/emilys_run.html

    C-DOT signs are already posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverstreak
    Thought you guys should know there will probably be major traffic problems on 285 that morning. Other than the construction, there is a running event in memory of Emily Keyes that travels along 285 from 470 to Bailey.

    http://www.iloveyouguys.org/emilys_run.html

    C-DOT signs are already posted.
    Absolutely one of the most useful posts on this thread. Thanks for the heads up.

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    Not only is there a run, but a parade, which means that Bailey will be totally shut down. And there's no mention of when this is all going on, so I don't know when we could get around it. Maybe leaving Denver very early is the way to go.

    Any suggestions??

    Thanks for posting this Mike, gives us a chance to figure out what to do: tough it out, cancel the ride, or change the time.


    Quote Originally Posted by silverstreak
    Thought you guys should know there will probably be major traffic problems on 285 that morning. Other than the construction, there is a running event in memory of Emily Keyes that travels along 285 from 470 to Bailey.

    http://www.iloveyouguys.org/emilys_run.html

    C-DOT signs are already posted.

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    This on top of what the news is calling peak weekend for the Aspens.....no way it will be crowded whatsoever.

    Why not just all come to Steamboat instead--not the crowds like everywhere else!

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    Just trying to gauge on what time the festivities....

    are rolling along for Saturday AM. i have family commitments and sounds like at least there might be huge traffic issues... dose Sunday sound like a possibility? not trying to be a wet blanket on the Saturday pick. just trying to be realistic for people that are coming out of Denver. just some thoughts
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    If there is construction and 285 is closed, we could do:

    Winter Park (Start at Tipperary)
    Breck to Georgia and back
    Keystone Gulch (Not sure how to get there though)
    Anything else

    I'm open to leaving earlier but since this is an annual thing only, I'd like to start with the group and hang as long as I can.

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    Kenosha?

    Are you starting your ride from the top of Kenosha Pass? If so, what time will you start riding on Sat? Thanks for any info.-Kip

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    Options

    OK, here's an idea:

    1) Ride this Sunday
    2) Ride next Sunday

    I'm guessing that we'll have to get up there hella early to beat traffic this Saturday, and we'll still have to go through it on the way back, so let's switch the days. I can't ride next Saturday, and since I started this mess, I'd like to finish it. If people are still set on this Saturday, so be it. I'm still trying to accomodate as many people as possible, but a decision needs to be made by, say, lunch tomorrow, so speak up.

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    i am thinking

    that either Sunday would work for me ... just like to avoid the big traffic and whatever else there is for me scheduling wise on Saturday. but i think i am game regardless of day just Sundays are better for me now
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    This Sunday

    I'm hoping to tag along on this ride and my input would be this Sunday. Looking at all the weather guesses for the weekend; Sunday looks a little cooler but much less chance of rain. Poor me; next Sunday I'll be riding in Whistler. Just checking again; do you start your ride from the top of Kenosha Pass. Thanks.-kip

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    the ride

    starts at hwy 285 and kp.......

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    Any word on the ride?

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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! Change of Date

    We're going to change the ride to this Sunday, Sept. 30th. The good news is, the weather should be a little warmer/sunnier/drier than Saturday, but not by much.

    If you need/want to carpool, meet at the dirt lot across from the Morrison Conoco. We'll be leaving at 8am, so get there no later than 7:45. Otherwise, just meet us at the Kenosha pass trailhead before 9am.

    Hopefully we'll miss most of the traffic.

    See ya there--Dan

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    Yeah

    ill be there .... finally

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    did i miss the boat

    is the ride happening right now.. and ill be the only one there tomorrow?
    is anyone else down for the KP to GA ride?
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    Just look two posts above. Earth to Scott

    Couldn't resist! It is happening tomorrow, buddy. You're good. Just show up at that Morrison lot at 7:35-7:45 or the Kenosha parking lot by 8:45.

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    right o

    just couldn't believe that there was nothing afta the reschedule ....thats all .. will be there @ 0745

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    Tomorrow, tomorrow, we'll see ya, tomorrow

    Yes, we're meeting and riding Sunday morning (9/30/07).
    Sorry about the confusion, and we'll see y'all tomorrow morning.

    Kinda glad the date was switched. I don't know what it's like up high, but here in the DTC, the wind's howling right now. It should be calmer tomorrow.

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    is anyone else down for the KP to GA ride?
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    this is the NOAA weather report for tomorrow on KP!

    Sunday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 55. Breezy, with a west northwest wind between 13 and 20 mph, with gusts as high as 24 mph. i am still down
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    little bit of snow up there?

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    A little bit

    Yeah, parts were a bit muddy and I got to inspect the ground pretty closely as well. What a fantastic ride!

    Dan, thanks for setting this up. You rock! Your buddy with the sparkly wheels was a great help with my brakes and hub.

    Scott, thanks for the help with my buddy's tire.
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    not a problem neil i have nothing but time ..

    and i suck wind too out there too ! was awesome will do again and will be more around for future rides. keep me in the loop.. night
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    Definately echo Flyer's comments. Thanks for setting up the ride Dan. I will post some pictures when I get them uploaded.

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    ... and if we just ... Great ride

    I'm finally posting from work. I. Am. Beat. Up. The snow-covered roots really sucked the life outta me. It was wet and snowy and slick and fun.

    Great meeting everybody and glad everyone had a good time. Was too tired last night to do anything but eat, shower and sleep. I'll try and post some of my pix tonite, after I get home, but I don't know if I have any pix better than Flyer's.

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    That picture of the glistening, muddy trail freaks me out.

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    I figured it would scare you $hitless but it wasn't too bad. It was only that one section up high that was middy but it didn't pack the tires up and the flowing water kept it from being too thick. All in all, the adverse conditions made the ride tougher and better

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    good ride, need to do those kind of rides more often. nextime shuttle from Breck!

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    I think I have it figured out. I extended the piston that was sticking, hit it all around with compressed air, and then cleaned it with a Q-Tip dipped in Isopropyl alcohol. It works perfectly now though I have not ridden it but around the driveway. It did look gunked up so I think the Shimano brakes may be a bit sensitive to wet conditions.

    I may pro-actively do this before a major ride. That sticky brake issue was adding more uphill pain than I needed. Now I just need to get some I9s and enjoy those climbs a bit more.

    Let's hope for not too much snow in October. I'd hate to get snow tires- I already have too many tires but I'm riding as far into the winter as I can, snow tires or not.

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